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The New Black Panther Party protests against racism in America’s first English settlement:
Members of the Panthers pumped their fist to shouts of “Black power!” and “Death to white supremacy!” ...
Grant Jenkins, who watched the entire protest, said he had mixed feelings about it. Some of their concerns were legitimate, he said, such as their protest of violence in the colony. But he found it disturbing when one speaker called King James I a derisive term for a homosexual.
Oh, at first I read it wrong; I thought the speaker was saying that “King James I” was a derisive term for a homosexual. As in: “Nice pink loafers, King James I”. Being a King James I myself, I was surprised that I had never heard that one before. Of course, there are rumors about James and George Villiers, but I’d be surprised if a militant “Black Panther” knew history well enough to be aware of that.
I just find it comical that they are “protesting” violence in the colony. There is no colony. It’s gone, history, finished.
There’s nothing left to protest and no one alive who was/is responsible who can change anything. It would be like getting a bunch of people together to protest the vicious Roman conquest of Carthage. “We demand satisfaction!” From who? How?
Lord, yet more posturing for slavery reparations. If those silly reparations are ever paid, maybe in a couple of centuries, the world will have gained some balance, and people can petition the Congress of that time for a refund.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 05 13 at 10:49 AM • permalink#6 Goldsmith: That’s what I thought the fellow meant, too, at first, then saw that the reporter had simply glossed over the actual word. Why, I wonder? In the interest of fair reporting, shouldn’t we be introduced to the full range of New Black Panther beliefs, in all their raw detail? And why is their organization now called the “New” Black Panthers? My guess would be because most of the “Old” Black Panthers are dead or in jail. By the way, Tom Wolfe had the last word on the Black Panthers and their outreach to white liberals.
And, ny the way, it appears to me that the “New Black Panther Party” is conflating history all around. If you look at the photograph in the article, you’ll see that they are using photographs, not drawings, of slaves. I recognize a couple of them.
That means the images are of American slaves, taken after the invention of photography in the early 19th century.
So, clearly, anything pre-1960 (maybe earlier, who knows? I’m guessing Martin Luther King as their reference) is pretty much one big blob of white oppression around the world. Talk about your rose colored glasses! Or history revisionism.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 05 13 at 11:00 AM • permalink#11 TRJS
So, clearly, anything pre-1960 (maybe earlier, who knows? I’m guessing Martin Luther King as their reference) is pretty much one big blob of white oppression around the world. Talk about your rose colored glasses! Or history revisionism.
Ironically enough, the first “slaves” in Jamestown Colony were, in fact, white: indentured servants and laborers. One of my ancestors was transported to Jamestown in 1629, and not of his own free will. Apparently 7 years indenture in the new (and still somewhat dangerous) colony was preferable to prison.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 13 at 12:39 PM • permalink...in 1717 Parliament enacted a statute formalizing the transportation of convict servants to America. Sporadic in the seventeenth century, the convict servant trade became a regular feature following 1717. The Act fixed a seven-year term for a range of felony offenses and specified fourteen years of service as a commutation of the death penalty. Estimates of the total number of convicts transported during the years from 1718 to 1772 vary, but one source lists upwards of 30,000 from all regions in England.
...By 1615, with the colony on the verge of extinction, the Privy Council decided to authorise the transport of convicts (presented as an act of Royal mercy: rather than being executed, King James was offering criminals the option of being transported instead). As it turned out, some of the criminals preferred to be executed. But most agreed to go, and Jordan and Walsh estimate that by 1776 more than 50,000 had been shipped to the American colonies.
The majority of those transported in the 17th century died pretty quickly, victims of disease, overwork and Indian attacks. But convicts were not the only people who found servitude and an early death in Virginia. There was a small industry devoted to kidnapping children off the streets of London.
The practice was presented as a humane and compassionate measure, a solution to the problem of criminal, feral children roaming the London streets (the problem, if not the solution, has an oddly familiar ring). Many of King James’s contemporaries were convinced that shipping “boys and girls that had been starving on the streets” to Virginia was “one of the best deeds that could be done…”
RE #15, Spiny, are you saying that the New Black Panthers have declared you their brother?
If so, what’s your cut of the
reparation checkgovernment government funded summer learning program?Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 05 13 at 01:47 PM • permalinkNot to be picky or anything, but there were no slaves at Jamestown. Not that I’d expect these people to know anything about American history.
Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 05 13 at 02:48 PM • permalink#22 rightwingprof
Maybe they were reading Howard Zinn…
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 13 at 03:20 PM • permalink#20 paco,
All expenses paid. Yep.
My grandmother began researching family history about 30 years ago (in order to join the Daughters of the American Revolution, which has a bit of a checkered history regarding race relations). The earliest documents she found were of “the convict George (her maiden name)” being released from indenture in 1636 and a marriage notice from the same year. The man died only 9 years later, but his decendents went on to help settle Kentucky and Ohio, where a great many of her relatives still reside.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 13 at 03:48 PM • permalinkMaybe they were reading Howard Zinn…
Mostly likely, if they were reading anything at all.
Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 05 13 at 03:58 PM • permalinkWeeeel, they could ask Steenie about James’ preferences. From what I’ve read old James I and VI would have had cause to worry about AIDS.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 05 13 at 08:33 PM • permalinkone speaker called King James I a derisive term for a homosexual.
They called King James I a queen?
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 05 13 at 09:50 PM • permalinkI’m fully prepared to pay reparations for every African slave ever imported to County Cavan, Ireland…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 05 14 at 12:20 AM • permalink#20 Paco, same with my family. My ancestors came to Virginia as indentured servants and some eventually began trickling down into North Carolina. On a side note, we drove up to Jamestown this weekend for the big celebration but didn’t get in, so we went to nearby Williamsburg instead. Perhaps if we had dressed up in all-black “New” Panther party gear we could have gotten in.
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Hey! I’m a Anglo American. If it wasn’t for the fact that James I was a Stewart and not a Tudor, I’d really get angry.