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NEW DEPUTY ASSISTANT BOLDERER REQUIRED
Oh no! Somebody forgot to close the bold tags!
This’ll cost a fortune.
UPDATE. Team Epsilon’s elite de-bolding strike force (Division 14B) have repaired the damage.
Maybe an Editor-at-Large can ask the General Manager to get the Deputy Editor in Charge of the Temporary Site to ask the Formatting Committee to process a Zoning Amendment Request for a Chief Designer to spec out a Work Order for a Font Engineer to get a Style Technician to make the change.
But I may be missing a necessary step or two.
Posted by Crispytoast on 2005 09 07 at 09:19 PM • permalinkAnd ed Kerri forgot to use spellchecker. In its entiritity.
Posted by Happy John on 2005 09 07 at 09:43 PM • permalinkMaybe they should farm out their formatting to India…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 09 07 at 10:17 PM • permalinkIn A.D. 2005
Webdiary was beginning.
Margo: What happen ?
Team Delta: Somebody set up us the bold.
Team Epsilon: We get link.
Margo: What !
Team Epsilon: Main screen turn on.
Margo: It’s You !!
Blair: How are you moonbats !!
Blair: All your typeface are belong to us.
Blair: You are on the way to humiliation.
Margo: What you say !!
Blair: You have no money to edit use the brains.
Blair: HA HA HA HA ....
Margo: Take off every ‘comment’ !!
Margo: You know what you doing.
Margo: Move ‘comment’.
Margo: For great silence.Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 09 07 at 10:54 PM • permalinkVan Jones thinks the left is never bold enough…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 09 08 at 12:36 AM • permalinkNow, I’ve no training or professional experience in html markup or CSS, but I’ve viewed Webdiary’s source code and it is not using bold tags “<b>” but strong tags “<strong>”. Bold tags are deprecated by the html poobahs, but those bold tags use fewer bytes. Margo lets bytes slip like water through her fingers. Indeed, I saw some curious mark-up:
<style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><style="font-family: Arial;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>Paragraph after paragraph was formatted that way. You don’t have to remind the browser about the font face in every paragraph. And those o:p’s—well, it looks as though it were typed in MS Word and pasted in. I don’t know what sort of trick that microfractional point is supposed to accomplish.
#2 Maybe an Editor-at-Large can ask the General Manager to get the Deputy Editor in Charge of the Temporary Site to ask the Formatting Committee to process a Zoning Amendment Request for a Chief Designer to spec out a Work Order for a Font Engineer to get a Style Technician to make the change.
Of course the result will be text which is in Italics which is OK, because then they can blame George W Bush for not providing them with enough funding.
Note: I think the code said
rather than<span style...<style...when I pasted in, but it was only after a first preview that I added the preformat tags around the markup fragments to prevent any possible markup-generated changes or operations—too late, & I didn’t notice the change. Tricky environment for an amateur here at Tim’s & Andrea’s with the Pmcode. But the mark-up here looks clean, at least to my untrained eye (I checked before making fun of Margoland’s markup).
Microsoft Office applications are horrible when it comes to the web. Word - blech, PowerPoint - blech, FrontPage - blech.
The junk code it leaves is horrible and as For Now points out unnecessarily increases page file sizes.
The Best Party of Allah in Australia site for instance, is a web-published Word doc and it looks it.
How much talent does it take to learn basic HTML formatting? At the very least use notepad to ‘clean’ the text before uploading.
Hmmm, Tim should we close this thread? It sounds like too many people who know what they’re talking about here might give the Margolians too many hints for free
I think we deserve a commission for every good formatting idea we give them.
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 09 08 at 02:32 AM • permalinkDidn’t it take them a year(!) to get a Drupal installation running at yourdamncrazy.net?
You’re right about the bold tag being replaced by the strong tag, by the way. But if they’re worried about bandwidth, they’d be better off dropping the harry_version_2 off of every page. (Oh, wait, they can’t do that…)
You don’t have to remind the browser about the font face in every paragraph.
Only if you know how to use stylesheets properly.
Nora: FrontPage isn’t too bad, as long as you do as much as you can by hand. But you’re right about the rest, and if you want nightmares about HTML coding, try using Publisher sometime. *shudders*
What they should have done is
a) registered the domain name
b) found a cheap local web host
c) paid some college student a couple hundred bucks to install Mambo, configure it, and show them how to use itInstead, they’ve got this bastardization of a website that fears dissent so much that comments must be edited and approved before posting. Margo may be one of the first journalists to have a blog, but she’s trying her best to make sure it’s run just like a newspaper.
#15 Der FRED
Whilst on the subject of those moonbats, I noticed a whole page in italics the other day… but of course restrained myself from peeking under the hood.
Fred, that happens there all the time. ;-)
The other day I posted there and described myself as “a RWDB with a fully paid-up subscription to ‘Evil Neocon Monthly’ “.
Now one of their ‘stylistic’ features is that they like to italicize titles (like my fake magazine “Evil Neocon Monthly”). Needless to say, they messed it up and italicized the next 100 posts… (and they didn’t even notice for 2 days or so.)
It’s like watching a a train crash sometimes. ;-)
Probably somebody pasted a single MS Word paragraph in and then, every time somebody hit ENTER, all the tags were replicated for the next paragraph.
I was pretty much teasing about the use of strong tags instead of bold tags for the bold effect. Usually it makes little difference to filesize, though if it’s used a lot, the bold tags certainly leave the source code easier to read. But junkcode pasted wholesale out of MS Word and replicating itself like rabbits can become Thidwick’s burden.
Actually, and I’m likely not alone in this, I’ve been kind of hoping, that Margoland would think that there’s something wrong with viewing their source code and would try to raise a ruckus about it.
The aim of minimization of junk code is the is why many Websites (ones set up in a professional manner like Tim’s) are set up to favor or require plaintext inputting.
We can get an inaccurate estimate of site visitors by looking at the log of where page requests came from, and ignoring those that are from people clicking on links within the site. This shows that the average visitor looked at 3-4 pages, giving us a daily visit count of around 1700 - 2200 - some of those of course are repeated visits by the same visitor, so getting to a proper readership count will have to wait for the permanent site and better statistical tools.
Am I the only one who is confused by this paragraph?
Why does she have a blog if she’s not there or she delegates it all out? I was once told the mark of a good manager is the ability to delegate, but this is a blog for goodness’ sake!
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 09 08 at 06:00 PM • permalinkDelegating a blog is like delegating brushing one’s teeth.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 09 08 at 07:55 PM • permalinkTim I’m sooo Sorrrry!
I know I rilly dropped the ball on this 1 but it was all on a count of my fighting off hordes of foamy mouthed NEO-CON death beasts over at teh Daily Koz.
...Needless to say, I kicked all their fashist a$$es with a deft flurry of left hooks - even whilst puffing on my trusty hookah of reality-based truth.
Once again sorry…Won’t happen agane.
- Mbongo
Assitent Titular Intern Coordinater
Team Zeta
Section 9
133t Empfathis CorpsReading the above exchanges about computer code reminds me of listening to Star Trek aficionados discuss obscure details of the original series.
I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. But I convinced you know what you’re talking about.
Posted by wronwright on 2005 09 08 at 08:06 PM • permalinkFollowing Nilknarf’s link, I see that Marg0 has deluded herself into thinking that only 1.1% of all comments are not published.
The problem with her reasoning is that so many of us, I suspect, see her views as beyond hope—debating a subject with Margo would be like arguing with the crazy guy that stands on the street corner shouting at people. The normal response for a large percentage of the population is to simply ignore him, simply because the traditional rules of debate no longer apply.
The same goes for Margo—if more people truly said what was on their minds about her and/or her site, you would see comment publication percentages plummet. (I know my thoughts about her site would never make it, so why bother putting them to words?)
Good to see you concerned citizens wasting your time over Margo’s source code. The vast right wing conspiracy has to keep busy somehow.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2005 09 08 at 08:35 PM • permalinkWell Miranda,
Since we conquered the world, paid homage to Halliburton etc, we’ve had to have something to entertain us and you have to admit Margo and Margoyles are very amusing…—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 09 08 at 09:16 PM • permalinkOh Miranda Divide - I geddit. it’s a psuedonym. Very clever dearie.
Why aren’t you abiding by Magrok’s code of ethics. Real names please!
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 09 08 at 09:45 PM • permalink
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