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MULTICULTURAL TOLERANCE AND SENSITIVITY
A day has been selected on which we may consider the prejudice and bias suffered by Islamic Australians:
Islamic youth organisations that were not part of Prime Minister John Howard’s summit yesterday say they have been working against extremism behind the scenes.
They have chosen a date for a planned day of action - September 11.
The group says it wants to try to change the date’s association with extreme Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.
(Via Florida Cracker)
These people keep banging on about “bias and prejudice” against them, instead of dealing with the real issues: why do so many of them hate Australia and its way of life; why isn’t democracy a good thing for Iraq and Afghanistan; how do we encourage them to become Australian instead of transplanted middle eastern rabble. Choosing 11/9 is just typically insensitive and provocative.
Well at least they admit 9/11 had something to do with Muslims (or do they?)
I am frustrated by the “Backlash against Muslims” movement which seems to swing into action after every Islamic terrorist attack.
Essentially, we are made to feel guilty for trivial grafitti or abuse attacks on Muslims which may not even happen, however would have only been as a reaction to a beheading, bombing or shooting attacks which certainly did happen on innocent westerners and for which Muslims seem to blame everyone else.
I for one feel I have nothing to feel guilty about. Then again, the whole thing will fail. Mainstream Muslims have not been known for their strong anti-terror protests and marches in the past.
So they’ll have what, twelve marchers?
I just hope WebDiary doesn’t hurt their feelings when they call them neocons…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 23 at 11:32 PM • permalinkHoly. Fucking. Shite.
On a related note, check out this response to the Howard summit.
Allowing themselves to forget that Allah (S.W.T.) is the BEST of
planners, Australian extremists who want to change our deen of Islam
and enforce their weird deviant views against the Muslim population
further discredited themselves today by meeting with crusader war
criminal and self-appointed “regional sheriff” John Howard to
formulate their plots and their plans. In order to guarantee that the
meeting would be an Islam-bashing festival, only 13 “groups” whom
Howard himself believed to be apostates were invited to attend his
conference on establishing the methodology of suppressing Islam and
the Muslims in Australia. 51 Muslim organizations jointly wrote Howard
to protest their exclusion from the so-called “summit”.Some nobody named “Ameer Ali” is exploiting the summit to claim that
well-known mujahid hero Usama bin Laden is not an accepted Muslim leader!Here is a challenge to that “Ameer Ali” and his “AFIC”:
Let’s have a free, unfettered democratic vote of Muslims throughout
the world for the choice of Islamic leadership. Let’s put forward YOUR
name in direct contention with that of Usama bin Laden for that
leadership. And let’s abide by the outcome, whatever that may be.
Moreover, let the loser lick the bottom of the sandals of the winner.
Agreed?Any Muslim ACTUALLY in attendance at the “summit” would have told
Howard: “We’re not in the business of renegotiating the values of this
deen to accommodate anyone, be it Howard or otherwise.” But those who
are participating with Howard are precisely those who want to suppress
Muslim education and replace responsible religious leaders with their
own jahil elements and submissive quasi-qadiani political ideology.Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 08 23 at 11:36 PM • permalinkAre “tolerance” and “sensitivities” new concepts for Islam?
I wonder how they would react to the story about the
FIRST HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
You would think this is a hoax, but it was reported by an Arabic satellite TV and has 100s of comments (some are in English, most are in Arabic)
I am not joking.
dtlc — A male camel? That’s just sick.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 23 at 11:48 PM • permalinkDan Lewis - I agree.
Muslims are all victims of September 11. Poor dears.
How about we change the following commemorative days too?
August 15 -
VP DayPity day for Japanese (and their allies) who died in the Pacific.November 11, at 11am -
Armistice DayGermany Really Won DayJanuary 26 -
Australia DayInvasion Day (or Sorry Day)Oh, never mind.
It’s a start, noir. It would have been better if the Islamic Commission’s secretary general Mansur Escudero had not refused to say that Muslims ought to help the authorities capture bin Laden.
“Asked if the edict meant Muslims had to help police try to arrest the world’s most wanted man — who is believed to be hiding along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan — Escudero said: “We don’t get involved in police affairs but we do feel that all Muslims are obliged to ... keep anyone from doing unjustified damage to other people.”
I don’t trust the Islamic Commission of Spain, for now.
noir—thanks for the link, but we’ll see. You’ll have to understand our lack of enthusiasm, since one hallmark of conservatives is that results are what counts. If a bunch of Muslims turn Osama (or another major terrorist) in for the reward, and no fatwa is issued against them in retaliation…...
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 24 at 01:06 AM • permalinkIn unrelated news, I will be holding a month-long celebration of Israeli military success. The date?
October 26th, the beginning of Ramadan. I want to change the meaning.
Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2005 08 24 at 01:09 AM • permalink9/11 should be designated Deportation Day; a good date to have various extremists shipped back to their shitholes.
Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2005 08 24 at 01:18 AM • permalinkSpeaking of victims…Mamdouh (Mr City to Surf but I’m on a disability pension)Habib claims to have been “stabbed” on Sun night by a group of men. Judging by the stab wound ie scratch, those men are piss weak or Mamdouh learnt how to defend himself over at the training camps. This piece of filth & his scum bag family should be one of the first to be exported.
Guess ASIO aren’t watching him 24/7 as he claims!
Posted by ozconservative on 2005 08 24 at 02:20 AM • permalinkThe group says it wants to try to change the date’s association with extreme Islamic violence
Yeah, well good luck with all that.
and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.
As if they deserved it. Huurumph!
Never fear though, 80 year-old Swedish Grandmas are getting the “deep-treatment” in order to defend your rightous sensabilitys.
Thanks Grandma Olson, for taking one for the team.
OzCon - Habib is claiming that ASIO agents orchestrated the attack.
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering why he and his wife were wandering around a dangerous local park at midnight - thats ASIOs fault too. Apparently they have the house bugged, so he has to take his wife out side in order to have a private conversation.
Well it could be worse they could be showing Farenheit 9/11.
Wonder if the Islamists in this country are going to publically advertise their celebration of 9/11 as they have in the past?
Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2005 08 24 at 05:59 AM • permalinkThat there was something distinctly weird about the Muslim reaction to 9/11 turned up for me on 9/26/2001 when James Zogby came on Imus to say that many Muslims were having their feelings hurt. There’s some unbelievable misreading of the situation going on. The general mood then was concentrated on digging around in ground zero looking for survivors and nobody was even thinking about Muslims. People sort of expected Zogby to share the same concerns. Nope, he’s worried about how hard things will be for Muslims now.
I can’t even guess what the misunderstanding is. It appears to be long lasting.
http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.zogby.ram (several clips)
They may as well use 9/11. They used the night of the attack to celebrate at the port Hedland detention centre. (not the Afghanis though)
At least theyd be consistant. Would rather have a flat out ban on accepting people from the middle east until they get used to the idea of rule of law.
The whole guilt industry needs shafting. A few straight out “I dont give a flying fcuk what happened, I wasnt there, its not my problem.” would be my foreign policy approach.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 08 24 at 06:12 AM • permalinkRob Read
What? A sort of stupid tax you have to apply for? I like that idea.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 08 24 at 06:24 AM • permalinkThanks for that link, EP. I watched The 7.30 Reportlast night with Iktimal Hage-Ali (I love that name - no sarcasm intended. It really is lovely)
Along with a bit of whining about how we should do more for the poor young muslim dears who feel so alienated, she also mentioned the terrible hate crimes being perpetrated against said muslims. You know, name calling, insults, that sort of thing.
You will also notice that Kerry didn’t compare our vicious crimes to those being carried out against infidels and apostates around the world. Including children, women, babies. Of any religion including Islam.
Going by the Islamic community network, I think Iktimal might be pushing shit uphill to convince us all that the “radicals” really are on the fringe.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 08 24 at 06:41 AM • permalinkMaybe it’s time to read Robert Spencer’s new book: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.
http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4746Speaking of tolerance and sensitivity, I don’t know how far off topic the following quote is, but I just thought I might throw it out into the ether.
From selling waves:
I was saying to my brother just the other day that it is possible to have a successful multiethnic and even multicultural society, but what cannot work is a multi-ethical society. Clearly everyone is not going to agree on all moral values, but there has to be one basic ethical standard in society. Without that the conflicts will be interminable and insuperable, and perhaps worse than that the tacit sanctioning of moral wrongs.
Stumbled across at Ray’s blog. (Although, Ray being an anarchist libertarian, I don’t think we’ll see him over here. He’s good value, though.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 08 24 at 08:50 AM • permalinkTypical of the US to claim a date in the calendar that all humans own equally and to then claim it as their own.
Thankfully, this day is being reclaimed back for all equality seekers who acknowledge that dates belong to EVERYONE. By doing this, we can celebrate the sorry state of Muslims today who are scapegoated by those that seek to vilify others.
I hope that this date will continue to serve as a rememberence for this vilification.Melanie (41), the US is not “claiming” the date, it is what the date universally signifies in the common consciousness because of the events that took place in 2001. You are not really Iowahawk incognito, are you? Because your comment is so lame it’s funny (he does that intentionally, I am sure you are an earnest, clueless leftist. Probably need to shave those armpits too, but I am speculating).
#45: Probably one of the reasons the VRWC is so immensely powerful, too. I mean, have you ever seen a lefty do a convincing impression of a right-winger?
Normally they just can’t help drifting into “I like to eat Muslim babies for breakfast, raawwwwwrrrr!!!” territory inside of two seconds. They just don’t understand us as well as we understand them. Or maybe it’s just that they’re much more predictable, I dunno.
Why not put dates up for bid on eBay?
You could buy Christmas, with enough money, and start your own religion.
Move Earth Day to Holloween and make a statement.
The problem would be date inflation. Governments would want new days to sell, like September 31.
Some central date bank would have to figure out how many dates the economy needs, and buy and sell government date debt to keep the value of a day constant.
rhhardin: .
Some central date bank would have to figure out how many dates the economy needs, and buy and sell government date debt to keep the value of a day constant.
You could have an international Date Users protocol that all countries could be signatories too. Those that used to many dates could pay others that hardly use dates, compensation. For example, NZ that uses everyday as an excuse to get pissed, would pay Russia 14 billion dollars because they only have 3 dates of celebration
jic - I will remember that..
Melanie - you did a pitch perfect impression of the virulent strain of moonbat infecting the states. No way I would ever have guessed. We have been inundated with Mother Sheehan mania this week - even Joan Baez was there, to pile on the cliches - how was I supposed to detect such sophisticated and well done sarcasm? I am a victim, I tell you!If Muslims want to change September 11’s association with Islamic violence, I say let them try. Putting back two giant buildings in Manhattan, restoring several thousand original square feet of the Pentagon, bringing back four airliners, and resurrecting roughly 3,000 people is a start.
Otherwise… fv<k off.
And as an extra bit of “up yours” by these fine people, September 11, 2005 is a Sunday… the Christian Sabbath. But that doesn’t matter, right?
Posted by Major John on 2005 08 24 at 01:05 PM • permalinkIt would be nice to think that while we in the west are meant to be considering the feelings of the Muslims who live amongst us and are allowed to openly practice their religion, wear the clothes they want, eat and drink what they want etc, that said muslims would be considering the feelings of non-Muslims in Muslims countries who have to put up with such minor matters as slavery, torture, rape, floggings, forced conversions and of course death.
Can’t see that happening though - apparantly minorities only get rights in the West.
#33,
“Wathc for the weasel words”.
You are quite right in observing weasel words or “get out of responsibility” clauses in Muslim statements against terrorism. The other ones are frequently in reference to “Attacks on innocent civilians”.
For example, non-Muslims, apostate Muslims etc. are routinely regarded as not-innocent. Similarly, every single Jew, being eligble to serve in the Israeli military, has been described as a ‘legitimate military target’ (even the pregnant ones and their babies) thus not “civilians” either.
Try googling for “bogus fatwa” to see how transparent these edicts really are. Despite this, our leaders insist we are making progress.
Dan,
Good point. About the Palis treating all Jews in Israel as target because the children grow up to be conscripted and the adults are reservists, they really don’t want to go there, for what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Since the Palis have used women and children as terrorists and suicide bombers, according to the Palis’ own moral reasoning, the Israelis would be justified in treating every Pali as a potential terrorist, and kill them all, men, women, and children, if that was the only way they found to stop the terrorism.Presumably the Palis’ reasoning in this matter is based on Muslim moral beliefs and moral reasoning. What a good thing the Israelis use Jewish moral beliefs and moral reasoning to govern their behavior, and not that of the Palestinian Arabs.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 08 25 at 05:33 PM • permalink
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