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Kevin Rudd, previously “happy to debate Mr Howard whenever he wants to debate me”, is still to confirm he’ll attend Sunday’s scheduled debate in Canberra – prompting this response from the Prime Minister:
“I will be at the Great Hall of Parliament House at 7.30 on Sunday night,” Mr Howard said today.
“That’s our offer, I’ll be there and I’ll be ready to debate …
“If he doesn’t turn up, I’ll still talk for an hour and a half.”
Castro!
Mr Howard has also insisted that the “worm” - a graph that tracks the audience’s reaction as the debate progresses - would not be used.
“And why punish the worm?” Mr Rudd said.
“Everyone in Australia likes the worm. Let’s be friends of the worm.”
Look Rudd, stop insulting our intelligence. The worm is the worst invention in judging debates. But I guess it perfectly fits your “keyword” approach to politics:
new leadership (since keating isn’t around, I guess that’s a given huh?)
fresh ideas (ripped off more like it)
out of touch (please don’t touch us)
working families (what about the retired folks? or single people? - talk about limiting your catch!)
x revolution (another ripped idea)the man will “rule” by committee.
His recent announcement has a new office of housing, with a committee talking to departments about land needs, then selling off $6 billion of land that has greenies fuming.
How is this man credible with his party?
Fightin’ words from JoHo - exactly what he needs.
BTW “Let’s be friends of the worm” - a brilliant summation of the ALP campaign.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 16 at 02:32 AM • permalinkI wish the compere threw in some topics which the two spin doctors are not well rehearsed for, eg. what’s their take on law and order?
Or is L&O up to the States&Territorries;, therefore a lost cause?
Are the leaders happy with police corruption, ice epidemic, gangs, lenient sentences, etc.?Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 10 16 at 02:37 AM • permalink“Let’s be friends of the worm”
Still searching for a friend Kev? Never mind, according to the polls The Worm will be our next PM.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 16 at 02:40 AM • permalink#5 Peter M - Now’s the time to start planning the election drinking game. Your keywords are off to a good start.
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 10 16 at 02:43 AM • permalinkWith Rudd’s ennoying habit of prefacing an answer with the previous question, I could easily see him debating himself.
“Am I a fuctard? Well as I travel around Australia I’m hearing more and more that I’m a fucktard.”(Pauses. Licks lips like a gecko on meth. Uses puny arms to make lamest ever karate chop movement. Grins like his anus is been tickled.)
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 16 at 02:51 AM • permalinkIf Kevin won’t debate JoHo, they could always bring in someone like him.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 16 at 02:51 AM • permalinkI really really REALLY want Peter Costello to debate Wayne Swan.
Can you imagine it? Peter cracking jokes at Swan’s expense. Swan running off crying at the end.
It would be a thing of beauty.
Posted by llllloooooo on 2007 10 16 at 02:59 AM • permalink#15 Brilliant llllloooooo!
I’d even sign up to Austar to watch that.
It would be worth a year’s subscription to watch the debates under JWH’s rules.
Austar Satellite is the only pay-TV available in my area. I used to watch it many years ago but it fell over if it rained between us and the satellite, or a duck farted within 100k. Can anyone recommend the reception quality these days?15. I think we could change the “Castro!” on the end of Tims post to castrati as a more effective description of such a debate.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 16 at 03:18 AM • permalinkFinally, the Old Master getting on the front foot with this little twerp.
Twice in two days is a great start. I’m half expecting another sizeable announcement by the Libs on Friday or Saturday as a lead-in to the debate. While Dudd and Swan are still flapping about trying to come up with a tax policy or at least a cogent response as to why they haven’t got one of their own, Howard’s the man of action with real policies that don’t require formulation by some vaguely constituted committee in 2012.
Is it to too early to wonder whether the worm could be turning?
arbee,
Quadrant had a good article last month that had words to this effect.Isnt 10 years of being out of government long enough for the ALP to come up with an election platform?
Why the “rabbit in your headlights” impression this time around?
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 16 at 03:57 AM • permalinkwell so far the Coalition are handling this election like the seasoned pros that they are. Rudd and his Laborites are running around like Idol wannabes with stagefright.
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 10 16 at 03:58 AM • permalinkAn hour and a half!
That’s an awfully long time… much longer than, say, a doorstop sound grab.
Sure, Kevni is poised to save the nation from impending climate catastrophe, not to mention the endless ho-um of solid economic management. But let’s be fair. When it comes to debating the issues, baby steps first!
Now, I don’t know how it is in your local Surf Live Saving Club for example, but the younger nippers usually aren’t expected to join straight into the Iron Man divisions. They just have to wade in waist deep across the sand bar, scramble around two of the dads and then race back up the beach to their towels.
Those big yellow buoys for the big-chested boys are set way out beyond the breakers for goodness sakes!
one thing that surprises me.
Ruud and his team were supposedly ambushed by Howard’s 30 billion tax cut promise. They never expected tax cuts in the election campaign? From Howard?
“Know your enemy,” dude.Posted by daddy dave on 2007 10 16 at 04:01 AM • permalinkFrom today’s Fin Review:
Mr Rudd also said yesterday that, if elected, he would establish a Prime Ministerial Debates Commission, to be run by the parliamentary press gallery, which would set the rules for future debates rather than leaving it to the incumbent government.
Can’t he do anything without a committee?
Can’t he do anything without a committee?
Let’s hope for his wife’s sake that sex is one thing.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 16 at 04:11 AM • permalinkOn other election matters, The Democrats are urging people to vote by gender:
Women voting for women’’ will be the rallying cry for the Australian Democrats at the federal election.
Party leader Senator Lyn Allison said “a male-dominated Parliament cannot be trusted to fight for women’s issues the way women do’‘.
Pure desperation from a spent party.
Can anyone imagine if the leader of the ALP or the Libs came out with a “men voting for men” battle cry?
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 10 16 at 04:11 AM • permalinkO/T but a lot of moonbats use the increasing production of opium poppies in Afghanistan as a mesuring stick for success and a demo of how little the Afghani government wants to tackle it.
I pinched this link from LGF but it mainly deals with the hostages and ransoms being paid. Link here.
But part the way through it there is this quote from one of the taliban commanders.
“He added that another main source of income was opium produced by poppy farmers in Helmand, thanks to a Taliban fatwa, or holy order. “Our scholars have given a religious decree saying that things which are usually abominable in Islam are permitted to wage jihad against the enemies of Islam,” he said…”Remarkably flexible those unchanging words of god,when you want them to be.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 16 at 04:19 AM • permalink#15
I’m pretty sure Peter Costello would rather be in the debate than watching it. As I recall, when asked his opinion about the Howard v Latham clash in 2004, he said he’d been watching Australian Idol with his kids instead.
In the immortal words of Kevin Keegan, “I’d loove it” if Cossie squared off against Swan.
I’m looking forward to this debate. David Spears from Sky News (the moderator) is a very under-rated political journalist, but runs rings around blowhards like Laurie Oakes, Michelle Grattan and anybody from the ABC. Expect him to turn up the heat - fairly- on both candidates.
This does not bode well for Kevni.
Posted by Young and Free on 2007 10 16 at 05:02 AM • permalinkOT - From The Age a strange claim:
Youth Affairs Council of Victoria CEO Georgie Ferrari said there was a feeling among young people — who have only known life under Howard — that it was time for “a refreshing change”.
How many 11 year olds are on the electoral roll?
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 10 16 at 05:46 AM • permalinkDecision-making by committee (with the exception of ‘going native’ with local minors) is the default position at DFAT, and Kevni looks like he’s learned his lesson well. Unfortunately, the method is flawed, as everyone knows who’s ever had anything to do with the dickheads who seem to be in a significant majority at Australian embassies and consulates general. The Ruddmeister would do well to remember that the Australian electorate, unlike expats in places like Hong Kong and China, will expect him to perform and also have a say in whether he’ll get another contract. If Howard wins, then he should offer Rudd an ambassadorship to Rottnest.
[quote=CB]Is it going to be televised on free-to-air or just pay-per-view?
Probably just the latter.
I mean, it’s in the interest of democratic participation in Australia that it be completely marketised.
I heard the Young Libs are still enthusiastic about privatising the ABC, by the way. Oh, the lols.
Posted by Hideandreason on 2007 10 16 at 06:50 AM • permalink#52 Hanyu. Don’t catch anything I wouldn’t.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 10 16 at 06:56 AM • permalink#58 kae. I’m sure if we caught something nasty, we’d use protection.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 10 16 at 07:17 AM • permalink#60 - From the article you linked to:
At Brassall Shopping Centre, 21-year-old Jean Goodwin, from Pine Mountain, said climate change was the most important issue for her at this election, after travelling to Alaska and New York.
I wonder if her trip across the globe was carbon neutral?
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 10 16 at 07:18 AM • permalink#63
These people are almost locals for me.
I live in Blair.
They’ve changed the electoral boundaries - not sure if it’s Gerry, but I’ve heard that it’ll be a close one.Oh, and the electorate seem to be pretty thick in my neck of the woods. We had a great One Nation bloke when One Nation started who went independent, he did so much for the electorate. Next election they went for the National bloke. Untried. Just because he was National.
The PM actually seems to be enjoying himself at this stage of the campaign. He certainly looks upbeat and his manner appears a bit lighter - less stilted and cautious than his normal demeanour. He’s well behind in the polls and has been written off but he’s got in a couple of good punches already and maybe he senses that it’s not quite over yet.
I am just imagining the Greens right now, regarding KRudd’s firesale of Commonwealth land.
I guess it may slowly be dawning on them that the only thing they really have obtained from their passionate wild gay monkey sex with Krudd and the Neocommies are stained sheets, a hatful of used condoms and a seriously sore sphincter.
MarkL
CanberraIt’s Rudd’s to lose. He may very well do just that - he’s gutless enough.
But Howard’s big problem lies not in making policy pronouncements - but whether anyone listens or cares about what he says. By anyone I mean voters, not the commentariats.
I would encourage you all to spend ALL your energies supporting JoHo in the trenches. get out there among the people and tell them why it’s so vital that this particular politician be given a gold Koala stamp and free set of colouring pencils.
Don’t hesitate. Don’t think. Don’t stint. November 24 will be a night to remember.
The big hall Sunday night? It’s (almost) enough to make me wish I lived near Canberra. (Lying)
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 16 at 07:54 AM • permalinkDid I offer to debate the Prime Minister wherever and whenever he wants? Yes.
Will I debate the Prime Minister this weekend? I won’t say.
Will I use the debate argument to suggest creating yet another independent committee? Of course.
Will I keep answering my own questions, debate or no debate? Absolutely!Posted by petedenham on 2007 10 16 at 08:05 AM • permalinkGuys, I have an *inspired* idea.
If Rudd doesn’t show up on Saturday night, then John Howard should debate Bob Brown from the Greens instead.
It will serve two purposes.
1) “Moonbats ahoy” : The “green” supporters in the audience won’t be able to resist screaming down the prime minister and making complete idiots of themselves, hence making people sympathise with our brave PM standing up to werido crazies.
2) “The enemy of my enemy” : Both of them will take pot shots at Labor. The greens are savvy enough to know they aren’t competing with the Liberals for votes. They can attack Rudd from both sides.
What do you think? Am I a genius or a moron…or perhaps both???
Posted by llllloooooo on 2007 10 16 at 08:12 AM • permalinkJeebus, Margo’s on air live with Phatty on Late Night Pravda after ‘5 years absence’ (due to the ‘nigger in the woodpile’ comment).
Listen live if you dare.
78.
Dear Mr egg_, received your kind invitation to listen to the radiophone.
However Iam overjoyedregret to say I have a pressing engagement stuffing live, rabid, bird flu infected weasels down my pantaloons and will be unable to attend.Yours cordially thefrollickingmole Esq.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 16 at 08:44 AM • permalink#80: I’m listening now and Phil is talking about erotic poetry. Perhaps Margo will be a relief.
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 10 16 at 08:51 AM • permalinkAsh_
Please don’t mention Margoks or phills black hole around here, its just to distressing.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 16 at 08:54 AM • permalinkIf Howard gets re-elected, do we get to have a Weasel Stomping Day to celebrate, since we’ve gone to all the trouble of collecting the weasels?
#85: Phil is talking about erotic poetry
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Kama sutra or bondage,
It’s up to you.Somehow the idea of Phil discussing erotic poetry strikes me as incongruous, not only with logic but with good taste. Rather as if Bozo the Clown were to sit around, in full circus regalia, discoursing on the finer points of formal dresswear in the Royal Enclosure at Ascot.
Fuck. A. Duck! Who saw that longhaired old bodgie from ANU on Lateline tonight sharing his wet dream about how the Liberal Party is about to break up into separate ‘conservative’ and ‘moderate’ parties. And Howard’s dipstick biographer telling us there’s room for a new middle party.
These are grownups!
Given that the ‘conservative’ controlled federal party has won four consecutive elections, have these overpaid pointy-heads ever considered the possibility that the reason the party hasn’t won an election in New South Wales for 16 years might have more to do with the airy fairy wing that controls the state party rather than the right wing they chose to exclude?
Can’t he do anything without a committee?
I was going to suggest we ask his missus.
“You should put more men on the job!”—B. Hill
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 16 at 10:15 AM • permalinkOT: Drudge has a pic of Putin shaking hands with Ahmadingleberry, and under it in the left colum, “Bush Meets With Dali Lama.” Bush frustrates me… OK, a lot, but I know which of those two I’d rather have leading my country.
I had hopes for Putin, but he’s turning out to be a good, old fashioned Russian thugocrat in the Soviet mold.
Does God hate Russia for some reason I’m not aware of?
#107—Hey, looks like even the Limeys are puzzled…
Commenter Nick G at your link has the answer:
And we don’t have an Iraq factor, but we do have a Bushman factor. Being a friend of Bush has become embarrassing for all concerned. If Blair was Bush’s poodle, that makes Howard the pet hamster. Not a good look at all.
See, it’s all Bush’s fault. If Kev doesn’t show for the debate, that will be Bush’s fault, too.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 16 at 01:08 PM • permalinkI see that, from the photo in this article in The Australian, Wayne Swan is learning from his leader - check out the lip licking!
60. Rudd repeatedly entering the seat of Blair?
Tim, run for your life!Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 10 17 at 06:07 AM • permalink
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bark bigger than his bite, or praps the cat has got his tongue. I reckon $34 Billion dollars in tax cuts is starting to really make this election look losable for Big Kev07.
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