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MOORE QUESTIONS

It took a while for leftist Canadian doco makers Debbie Melnyk and Rick Caine to wise up:

After four months of unsuccessfully trying to sit down with [Michael] Moore for an on-camera interview, they realised they needed to approach the subject from a different angle.

They began looking at the process Moore employs in his films, and the deeper they dug, the more they began to question him.

Moore proved more elusive than former GM chairman Roger Smith, famously pursued by the Michigan Meatscoop in Roger & Me - described at Moore’s site as a film in which Moore “attempts to meet” Smith. Turns out he actually did:

The fact that Moore spoke with Smith, including a lengthy question-and-answer exchange during a May 1987 GM shareholders meeting, first was reported in a Premiere magazine article three years later ...

Moore also reportedly interviewed Smith on camera in January 1988 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York.

Since then, in the years since Roger & Me put Moore on the map, those details seem to have been suppressed and forgotten.

"It was shocking, because to me that was the whole premise of Roger & Me,” Melnyk said.

Moore often forgets things himself; for example, in November he forgot that he campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000.

Posted by Tim B. on 03/16/2007 at 10:25 AM
  1. He’s just a big fat lying assh*le f*cker, and I’m deeply sorry that it’s taken so many people so long to realize that.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2007 03 16 at 10:42 AM • permalink

  2. Michael Moore is a lying sensationalist...I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you. 

    This oxygen thief lives in my state, (part time thank God) you ought to see the multimillion dollar place he has up on Torch Lake!!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 03 16 at 10:43 AM • permalink

  3. The truth hurts

    But the Fat One is now mega rich and even if he never does another “documentary” he’ll be rolling in money until he fall off the perch

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 03 16 at 10:49 AM • permalink

  4. Maybe you could sneak into his appartment disguised as a sandwich

    Posted by Room 237 on 2007 03 16 at 10:50 AM • permalink

  5. #4. Nah, far too dangerous.  Better to go in disguised as a cushion.  Or an ottoman.  Or a pouffe.  Be it on your own head.

    Posted by Olrence on 2007 03 16 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  6. If someone wants to sneak into Moore’s place they’d better go as something he would neither eat nor sit on nor get close to. I would suggest either a rice cake, an exercise bicycle, or an unvarnished fact.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2007 03 16 at 11:04 AM • permalink

  7. But...but… KSM endorsed his Minuteman meme...!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 03 16 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  8. #6."or an unvarnished fact”. Heh.
    Or maybe an ungarnished fact, or is that approaching the food theme again?

    Posted by Olrence on 2007 03 16 at 11:12 AM • permalink

  9. "It was shocking, because to me that was the whole premise of Roger & Me,..”

    We have our first entry in the 2007 Walking Zombie Militia contest.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 03 16 at 11:26 AM • permalink

  10. It’s obviously all part of a nefarious plot by Karl Rove.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2007 03 16 at 11:44 AM • permalink

  11. In 10 years there’ll be another lefty proclaiming how shocked! shocked! she was to learn that AGW was largely a hoax driven by greed.

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 03 16 at 12:02 PM • permalink

  12. Moore proved more elusive than former GM chairman Roger Smith, famously pursued by the Michigan Meatscoop in Roger & Me - described at Moore’s site as a film in which Moore “attempts to meet” Smith. Turns out he actually did

    Isn’t this basically what Cindy Sheehan claimed about President Bush?  That she demanded a meeting with Bush but he refused.  It turns out they had met.

    She later explained that, well, yes, they had met.  But she wants a second meeting and he refuses to meet.  A second meeting?  With the President of the United States?  How many people gets to shake his hand, like alone meet with him?  And she used that to imply some cowardice on the part of George Bush.

    Lying idiots.  All of them.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 03 16 at 12:12 PM • permalink

  13. Moore often forgets things himself; for example, in November he forgot that he campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000.

    The only man to have run for President three times...wearing the same suit.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2007 03 16 at 12:20 PM • permalink

  14. but,but,but-her moral authority.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 03 16 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  15. New Yorker film critic Pauline Kael had Moore’s number from the get-go. Do a search at the Wayback Machine using http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://backwithinterest.blogspot.com/2004/06/movie-love-apropos-of-friday-opening.html to read Kael’s original review of Roger & Me (Aug. 6, 2004 post--if there’s a way to link directly, I haven’t figured it out--sorry) in which she illustrates Moore’s casual relationship with the truth. (And here is Big Mike’s response to Pauline.)

    Moore, IMO, is past his “use-by” date. I pinpoint the moment he jumped to John McCain’s speech at the ‘04 GOP convention. The sustained booing ultimately drove Moore from the convention hall where he was covering the event for USA Today (he explained later that he didn’t want to “spoil” the convention for the Reps and would continue his reporting from afar--okay, Mike, whatever you say). His influence waned after that and the Dem loss further undermined his Leni Riefenstahl role in the party. And having his cameras in Florida on election day ready to record Republicans engaged in voter fraud and intimidation and Democrats being disenfranchised while the big story was taking place in Ohio didn’t help.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 03 16 at 01:23 PM • permalink

  16. "Isn’t this basically what Cindy Sheehan claimed about President Bush?

    That’s exactly what I was thinking and would have posted it if you hadn’t already.  She wants to meet with the president (by implication, for the first time) while conveniently ignoring the fact that she already has.

    Posted by kcom on 2007 03 16 at 01:29 PM • permalink

  17. Kyda

    Sour cream doesn’t have an expiration date.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 03 16 at 03:17 PM • permalink

  18. Should have said THIS sour cream doesn’t have an expiration date.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 03 16 at 03:27 PM • permalink

  19. He is a dirtbag. The time he had throat cancer sufferers singing in a tobacco company foyer was exploitation at its worst. And his fucking disingenuous - what’s the matter - attitude made me want to vomit.

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 03 16 at 04:34 PM • permalink

  20. After four months of unsuccessfully trying to sit down with [Michael] Moore for an on-camera interview,

    Kind of hard to sit down with a man who takes up every chair in the room.

    they realised they needed to approach the subject from a different angle.

    Yea, like Steve McQueen in “The Blob”.

    Maybe Michael Moore is susceptible to the “Gore Effect” or similar coldenings, as in the final scene in “The Blob” :

    [On the radio to Washington]
    Lieutenant Dave: I think you should send us the biggest transport plane you have, and take this thing to the Arctic or somewhere and drop it where it will never thaw.

    [last lines]
    Lieutenant Dave: At least we’ve got it stopped.
    Steve Andrews: Yeah, as long as the Arctic stays cold.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 03 16 at 05:39 PM • permalink

  21. "We’re a bit disappointed and disillusioned with Michael,” Melnyk said, “but we are still very grateful to him for putting documentaries out there in a major way that people can go to a DVD store and they’re right up there alongside dramatic features."

    Yes they are definitely lefties… it doesn’t matter if he lies to everyone, what matters is that documentaries are now mainstream because Mikey boy made them fun and popular… Sheesh!

    Posted by Teresa on 2007 03 16 at 05:57 PM • permalink

  22. #21 Quite, and Melnyk’s leftie detachment from reality is further evidenced by her constant reference to Moore’s work as documentaries. They are not. The reason why they’re in the DVD stores alongside dramatic features is because they are equally fictional.

    -- Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 03 16 at 06:06 PM • permalink

  23. "In 10 years there’ll be another lefty proclaiming how shocked! shocked! she was to learn that AGW was largely a hoax driven by greed."

    I’m also pretty much going on the assumption that that’s true.  It’s just a matter of time until that day comes.  However, I’m not going to place a very big bet on them actually admitting it out loud, even when it will be fully warranted by the circumstances.  You can barely get them to acknowledge they were unabashed suck-ups for the Soviet Union for a few too many decades.  And for Cuba even now.

    Posted by kcom on 2007 03 16 at 06:36 PM • permalink

  24. I believe Michael Moore has become so unpopular with the public (largely because his lies have caught up with him, but also, who says looks don’t matter?) that he’s radioactive to the Democrats now.  He might as well hide out.  Nobody wants to know him.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 03 16 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  25. #22--Quite, and Melnyk’s leftie detachment from reality is further evidenced by her constant reference to Moore’s work as documentaries. They are not. The reason why they’re in the DVD stores alongside dramatic features is because they are equally fictional.

    Even Moore stopped calling Fahrenheit 9/11 a “documentary” after a while and didn’t submit it for Oscar consideration in that category. Of course, that was only because his many factual errors were pointed out and denounced loudly and often and he had no defence against them.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 03 16 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  26. The first question Moore asks is “where’s the buffet”. After that all is a blank so he probably forgot about the meeting.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 03 16 at 07:49 PM • permalink

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