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Beset by unexpected summer rain, George Monbiot questions the science:
It wasn’t meant to happen like this. The climate scientists told us that our winters would become wetter and our summers drier. So I can’t claim that these floods were caused by climate change, or are even consistent with the models. But, like the ghost of Christmas yet to come, they offer us a glimpse of the possible winter world that we will inhabit if we don’t sort ourselves out.
So, although Britain’s present weather seems to have nothing to do with climate change, it still indicates a future climate change deathscape - that won’t be warmer, but colder. Robert Fisk, who misses his snow, will be delighted.
(Via Jay Santos)
These people are just makng shit up as they go.
Posted by WingDynasty on 2007 07 24 at 12:34 PM • permalink“Winter World”? Is that a new Kevin Costner
stinkermovie?No, wait, that’s the envirotards and lefties beginning their gradual shift away from their “We’re gonna burn!” hysteria to the new “We’re gonna freeze!” hysteria.
Only the hysteria is consistent.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 24 at 12:38 PM • permalinkWhat I really fear is the possibility of global temperateness, or the “Goldilocks Model”: not too hot, not too cold, but just right. If that happens, the congenitally alarmist fleas of the Left will jump on some new dog. You know the drill: “In ten years time, we’re going to be out of oil/food/affordable housing/health care/Democrats!!!!” Pick your shortage.
MODELS INCONSISTENT
I dunno; they all seem to use a lot of cocaine and date scumbags.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 07 24 at 01:24 PM • permalink“In ten years time, we’re going to be out of oil/food/affordable housing/health care/Democrats!!!!”
What’s wrong with having a shortage of Democrats?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 24 at 01:37 PM • permalink#10. Heh.
#9 - you have just illustrated the move from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change”. Well done!
Posted by Major John on 2007 07 24 at 01:52 PM • permalinkAny so-called causative agent that has such a panoply of supposed effects is virtually guaranteed to be a load of bollocks (q.v. Syndrome, Gulf War).
Posted by David Gillies on 2007 07 24 at 04:24 PM • permalinkWhat’s wrong with having a shortage of Democrats?
It will disturb the natural balance, democrats eat newborn greenies, therefore a reduction in democrats could lead to an increase in the number of greenies.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 07 24 at 04:27 PM • permalinkIs Moonbiot still in England? If so, let him know that a single swallow (of floodwater) does not a summer make.
Posted by Son of a Pig and a Monkey on 2007 07 24 at 04:38 PM • permalinkWhen you run a scam, on the scale of this one, where big money and egos are involved. Where failed politicians and ideologues all crave to be in the media spotlight, and have the associated power, in the case of some, since the fall of certain ideologies, well, one must expect the occasional hiccup. Rather a pity, that some of these ‘geniuses’ did not let Gaia in on the scheme and a cut of the profits.
The models have worked so well in the past. Remember all the hurricanes predicted to hit the US last year—the Gulf cost is still recovering from them. What do you mean, there weren’t any?? Oh yeah, that pesky El Niño did some stuff we didn’t expect and made a hash out of the forecast.
Well, no worries, surely we’ll make up for it this year ‘cause that’s what the models say.
Or not.
You guys are simpletons. According to Greenpeace, and now verified by Moonbat, Global Warming can mean cooling. Don’t you guys recognise a consensus when you see one. This is just another example of the possible duality of the climate models. On the one hand they can can behave as expected and give you the expected results (with lots of tweaking), on the other hand, they are utter tosh. Want another example, the words used in the above sentence all individually and when take in groups of 2 or 3 make complete sense, put them together into an apparently coherent sentence and they don’t make sense.
Just goes to prove that coherence can be non-sensical.Posted by aguycalledbrad on 2007 07 24 at 05:25 PM • permalink#3 WingDynasty
These people are just makng shit up as they go.
That’s why the Gorebal Warmeningists have been quietly replacing “man-made global warming” with “man-made climate change”. That way, any and all unusual weather events can be blamed on human activity, with no need to prove it.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 07 24 at 05:40 PM • permalinkSo when the weather contradicts the models, it’s a sign of the crisis to come. And when the weather approximates the models, it’s a sign of the crisis to come. How conveeeeenient.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 24 at 06:08 PM • permalink#29 El Cid
Power Outages Darken Portion of Downtown San Francisco
Great! Look at the wonderful opportunity everybody has to reduce their carbon footprints! Perhaps it will become permanent.Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 24 at 06:38 PM • permalinkDamn you, Al Gore! Damn you and your carbon credits creating global cooling! Damn you!
/Taylor on the beachPosted by andycanuck on 2007 07 24 at 06:42 PM • permalink*sigh* Most of the PETA/animal rights activist people I have had the misfortune to meet don’t know a damn thing about animals. Therefore it does not surprise me that most environmental activitists don’t know a damn thing about the environment outside of an apartment building or a university.
Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 24 at 06:52 PM • permalinkWhy is it that whenever those numbies start talking about “models”, and the fact they don’t seem to be working, I always think of this guy?
Posted by David Crawford on 2007 07 24 at 07:20 PM • permalinkHere’s my response to Moonbat, copied here in case of climate catastrophe:
Alas poor Monbiot, cast hopelessly adrift on a sea of reality, desperately clutching to passing straws of comfort from those vaunted climate models when those Met Office forecasts were wrong wrong wrong.
So this summer’s floods point to our future winters? How exactly? George is reaching for the strong stuff when he tells us that despite the oracles being no better than tossing a coin even predicting climate 3 months ahead, he still assures us of the catastrophe yet to come. This is like a compulsive gambler whose beginner’s luck has evaporated along with his winnings telling everyone that his luck is bound to change.
By some miracle, climate models that are no better than 50% accurate 3 months ahead, become progressively more accurate as the time horizon recedes. Yeah right. Dream on.
For the rest of us, we wonder what became of the millions upon millions spent by the UK Government on indulgences, sorry, carbon offsets rather than on flood defences and decent disaster management. But then, when we are told of the virtues of energy poverty by multimillionaire playboys and girls of Live Earth, we know that sacrifices now pay back later after we die early from preventable disease in George’s glorious green vision of the future.
But what of this sacrifice to help Gaia maintain her ideal climate (whatever that is)? When is George going to practice the low-carbon lifestyle he preaches to the rest of us? How about it George? All you have to do is give up the gas guzzler that takes you to the supermarket where you can buy the “essentials” like tea and coffee which are shipped over to you courtesy of fossil fuels from all parts of the globe?
When are you going to give up your nasty carbon habit, switch off the mains electricity (oops there goes the lifesaving fridge/freezer), rationing your power down to the level where wind power kicks in (choosing between power for cooking and power for heating is a fascinating dilemma when your childrens’ health is on the line, isn’t it?). What about the fossil fuels used to purify and deliver clean fresh water? There’s got to be sacrifices, George, because time is running out. Catastrophe looms.
Only when George truly practices a low carbon lifestyle worthy of the name that puts himself and his family on the line, will we truly know that George is being serious. Why ever not George? Plenty of African families would give their eyeteeth to live in the “carbon neutral” lifestyle that you enjoy in mid-Wales. Now if only George would let them develop using the nasty fossil fuels that George isn’t supposed to be consuming…otherwise it looks like another middle-class whinger who thinks that being green entails just a modicum of discomfort in recycling household waste and walking rather than driving to the bank to deposit yet another fat cheque from the Guardian.
Hey, 1.618 gets a guernsey at Man of lettuce.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 24 at 08:19 PM • permalinkPower Outages Darken Portion of Downtown San Francisco
That sucks.
Like they need blackouts for that in San Francisco.
Oh, look, you were all thinking it, I just got it over with…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 24 at 08:22 PM • permalinkWhat Monbiot is saying is that whether the future is to be searing hot or freezing cold or even just like it has been the past 10,000 years, something drastic has to be done and that is the destruction of capitalism.
The void should be filled by benign and gentle dictators tending to the everyday needs of the ordinary folk - and executing and torturing those think otherwise.
1.6 - you’re famous.
Nevertheless, I shall join you in solidarity, by never discussing Tim Blair’s good looks while in taxis.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 24 at 08:37 PM • permalink“What’s wrong with having a shortage of Democrats?”
It will disturb the natural balance, democrats eat newborn greenies, therefore a reduction in democrats could lead to an increase in the number of greenies.
That’s not what the models says. The models says there’ll be a shortage of democrats because there won’t be any greenies to feed on!
#39 Grimmy,
The models are not accurate, this was not predicted by the models, but we are still heading for a catastrophy because the models say so.
When I didn’t understand a marxist when I was a kid, I was always told I had to understand the dialectic.
Well, the dialectic re. global worming is this:
The models, all 15 of them, are wildly innacurate and heading off in different directions. But, if you take an average of all the models’ predictions, you get what we have.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 08:50 PM • permalinkIf the data do not support your conclusions, you scrap the data and generate more. Although it works best if you simply work backwards from the conclusions.
Reminds me of the economist who said of a program “Well, it works in practice, but will it work in theory?”
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 07 24 at 08:51 PM • permalink#10 I ran into Cindy Crawfiord - no, really :^) and she sai “In your dreams”. Well, where is she?
Talk about inconsistent.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 08:55 PM • permalinkRain!
In England!!
Whoodathunkit???
It surely signifies the end of the world.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 08:57 PM • permalinkSome global warming models won’t get out of bed for less than $10,000 a speech.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 24 at 09:03 PM • permalink#25 Brad, you remind me, again for this thread, of the Marxist dialectict. Under the banner of power to the people, the people are made powerless.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 09:04 PM • permalinkI did spot a bit of dodging from Mr Brown on the SBS news last night. Apparently the flooding is due to “The old 19th century technology” of the levees and embankments.
Riiiight…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 24 at 09:14 PM • permalinkIn Australia the climate alarmists should be called Hanrahans. It has all been said before:
Said Hanrahan
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
One frosty Sunday morn.The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
As it had done for years.“It’s looking crook,” said Daniel Croke;
“Bedad, it’s cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad.”“It’s dry, all right,” said young O’Neil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.And so around the chorus ran
“It’s keepin’ dry, no doubt.”
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”“The crops are done; ye’ll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o’-Bourke
They’re singin’ out for rain.“They’re singin’ out for rain,” he said,
“And all the tanks are dry.”
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.“There won’t be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an ass;
There’s not a blade on Casey’s place
As I came down to Mass.”“If rain don’t come this month,” said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak—
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If rain don’t come this week.”A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.“We want an inch of rain, we do,”
O’Neil observed at last;
But Croke “maintained” we wanted two
To put the danger past.“If we don’t get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”In God’s good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-o’-Bourke.And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If this rain doesn’t stop.”And stop it did, in God’s good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o’er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding o’er the fence.And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey’s place
Went riding down to Mass.While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.“There’ll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”—John O’Brien
What could be better than sitting here with the lovely Mrs. Paco, listening to Hootie Boogie (Jay McShann, 1945), and checking out Tim Blair’s web site? Why, finding this item over at Hot Air and sharing it with my friends. Yes, that’s right; Ward churchill is now officially looking for work. So, far all you solid hep cats out there, this good news is for you.
#38 Do you mind if I call you SIR John A. (MacdDonald) for that excellent post .. a key figure in Canadian history?
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 09:20 PM • permalinkTalk about having a bob each way Ole Georgie boy.
I’ll ask the question myself, if the rain isn’t caused by AGW / CC, how exactly are we supposed to sort ourselves out?
Or is this step 2 of the great AGW swindle, we aren’t sure whats causing the changes to the climate but lets just apply draconian measures anyway.
Surely even George “he of the car faith” Moonbat can see the AGW myth is fraying at the edges.
#43
Keen to bring their emissions down by 50 per cent,
One parent and one child killed the other parent and child ... quickly, before the drawing of straws and anyone suspected.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 09:27 PM • permalink#57 And some, Infidel, will only get into bed for $10k!
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 09:33 PM • permalinkOT
The rapture is upon us. Sheedy’s been sacked.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 24 at 09:36 PM • permalinkA good article by M. Phillips on GW. 2nd article down.
My favourite bit.
“Amazingly, the hypothetical results from climate models have trumped the real world measurements of carbon dioxide’s longevity in the atmosphere. Those who claim that CO2 lasts decades or centuries have no such measurements or other physical evidence to support their claims. Neither can they demonstrate that the various forms of measurement are erroneous. ‘They don’t even try,’ says Prof. Segalstad. ‘They simply dismiss evidence that is, for all intents and purposes, irrefutable. Instead, they substitute their faith, constructing a kind of science fiction or fantasy world in the process.’”Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 24 at 09:46 PM • permalinkThe next phase, eco-terrorism.
However, more info on Prius vs Hummer here
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 24 at 10:46 PM • permalinkBy my reading, Monbiot is saying that even though the models that predict wetter winters didn’t predict the wet summer, the wetness of the summer, even though the models didn’t foresee it, foreshadows the (possible) wetness of winters to come as predicted by the models that failed to predict the wetness of the summer.
ie he still believes in the Models, even though they don’t work.
Touching.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 07 24 at 11:15 PM • permalinkThe models are rock solid. It’s the weather that’s failed.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 24 at 11:17 PM • permalinkThe weather didn’t turn out as predicted? I’m still shaking my head.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 24 at 11:29 PM • permalinkI kinda liked the comment from the green crusader who lamented that he had trudged through snow to knock on doors, but when he did, people were unreceptive to giving him money to make the globe cooler.
Posted by Harry Eagar on 2007 07 24 at 11:30 PM • permalinkRe #70, sorry, MM, but eco-terrorism has been in vogue for quite a while. It’s just starting to get personal.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 25 at 12:08 AM • permalinkFrom the book of Gaia:
“If there be wetness in summer,
Go bash a hummer
And if models do fail,
Change the tune of your wail”As to Sheedy, not being from Melbourne, I never understood how he kept his job or why his views were treated like the word from on high, given the Bombers performance over the last 5 years.
A bit like Hird or Giteau in that “everyone says he’s good, but I’ve never seen him actually do anything” vein.
Posted by anonymous guest on 2007 07 25 at 12:09 AM • permalinkThefrollickingmole—as a science fiction writer, I resent the comparison. We at least have to stay consistent from chapter to chapter, something that big Al and his acolytes don’t feel obliged to…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 25 at 12:10 AM • permalinkaguycalledbrad
I like reading your comments, they are sharp and witty. Must you link to your site at the bottom of each comment? I click and find it’s got nothing to do with your comment.
Desist.
If I want to visit your site I’ll click on your name and go via your bio.
If you want me to go there to see something tell me what it is, otherwise I will stop clicking on your name at the end of your comments to see what you are guiding me to.
Got it?Earth HOUR is back for next year!
Pictures of a darkened harbour were shown on television channels including BBC, CNN, CBS, Al Jazeera and Sky News, and in newspapers from Bolivia to Bucharest, as Sydney flicked the switch one Saturday, last March.
Yes, and images were alittle cloudy and overexposed as well and this did not convince me at all.
Monbiot (or at least the way normal people in Australia would pronounce it), goes something like this, song-wise….
RaindropsMonboits keep fallin’ on my head
But that doesn’t mean my eyes will soon be turnin’ red
Cryin’s not for me
‘Cause I’m never gonna stop the rain by complainin’
Because I’m free
Nothin’s worryin’ meNow this is nice poetry.
Keats must be resting happily now his heir apparent has taken over with lines like thesePosted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 25 at 03:22 AM • permalinkThe stages of most (if not all) enviro-frauds seem to run out something like this:
1) Those seeking political power/influence come across scary scientific hypothesis (note, not theory).
2) Scary story taken up by media. Media Circus ensues at which media savy scientists (sometimes the same people in stage 1) convince public of scary story’s truth.
3) Politicians react by (of course) imposing laws and restrictions.
4) Further scientific study disproves, or severely weakens, hypothesis.
5) Media ignores the further scientific results. Leaves public assuming scary hypothesis still valid.
6) Although all reason for the laws and restrictions have passed, they stay in place and cause real harm and loss of well-being.
I think that about sums it up. We seem to be in stage 5 with AGW.
River Thames broke its banks and Britain grappled with its worst floods in 60 years, and hundreds of homes evacuated in the university city of Oxford today.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 07 25 at 04:46 AM • permalink#90 - Worst floods in 60 years.
“We are looking at 21st century extreme weather conditions,” Mr Brown told BBC television
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 25 at 04:50 AM • permalink21st century extreme weather conditions. I’ve just spent 30 precious seconds of life wondering what the hell that means.
Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 25 at 05:46 AM • permalink#87 Pickles
What are you trying to say? I have a vegie garden, with carrots, pumpkin, sweetcorn, broccoli and tomatoes (when in season.)
I am saving the world, aren’t I?
Tries very hard to do his impression of Oliver saying “please Sir, may I have some more”
Those noble staples are using up all of that nasty carbon that my V8 ute puts out, after all. :)#94, 185600,
I have been instructed that by growing my own veggies I’m guilty of solar greed. Truly. This is from my ex-oldest friend who is now a global anti-everything campaigner. Apparently if I grow my own stuff I am using solar rays that could be used for the world’s poor. She also tells me that’s why biodeisel is evil. We should buy this stuff from poor black africans. Oh, and if you have solar heating panels you’re also guilty, because you’re stealing the sun’s rays from people who deserve them more.
That’s how loopy the left has become.
Mary the ex-schoolfriend holds office in the Socialist Workers Party and has never held a real job for more than three months since she graduated from university with a sociology degree at the age of 42. I have no excuse for maintaining the friendship as long as I did, except we used to be teenagers together.
#95 mareeS
That is just sad. She must make some shrink very, very wealthy (although he must want to take a shower after her sessions, in case it’s catching.) :)
But then again, the Socialist Workers Party?
Is that an open bar at all?I know what you mean, I used to have a cousin until last Christmas, now he has a couple of new scars, but at least my Auntie has forgiven me (she always liked me better anyway.)
mareeS: that’s nothing, you should tell her about the cans of “sunshine” that we sell as a gag gift in souvenir shops here in Florida. Precious sunshine imprisoned in cans and sold to tourists for jokes!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 07 25 at 06:29 AM • permalink185600,
Shrink? What shrink? You have to be a veteran, privately insured or independently wealthy to have one of those, and Mary is none of the above. Besides, she thinks she’s sane and I’m the crazy one because I am of the conservative dark side.
Her family, all co-nutter fabians in the ALP, encourage the lunacy.
The spouse and I have contingency plans for our superannuation if the comrades seize power.
Re the socialist workers party, they don’t work, they don’t party other than at protest rallies while wearing black face masks, and they’re not at all social except when they’re handing out newspapers and hitting on little old ladies at the supermarket for donations.
#95 In 10 years, solar greed will be the next big thing, after cc fades to it’s inevitable place in the (dustbin? ash heap?) of history. You heard it hear first. Make your investments now.
Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 25 at 06:30 AM • permalink#98 Andrea
That’s gold!
My mother’s nickname for me as a child (and occasionally these days, to my shame), was ‘Our Sunshine’
Since she always complains that I never see them (they do live at the other end of the continent, in my defence), perhaps I can get a can of ‘Florida Sunshine’ for her. :)Prolly won’t stop her asking ‘You were planning on having kids before I died, son, weren’t you?’ though.
Why is that middle class leftists hate the middle class so much? Monbiot talks about them as though he was a down-and-out tinker.
In fact he’s a graduate of Oxford, and has held academic posts at half a dozen universities and jobs at the BBC. He has written best selling books and produced documentaries. His mum and dad are in the senior ranks of the Conservative Party. On top of all that, he’s left the rat race and settled in rural Wales.
If that isn’t middle class, then I don’t know what is. Seems to me to be a clear case of teenage angst and parental hatred lasting about two decades too long. If anyone believes this aging adolescent wouldn’t be a “Green Guard” (or “Greenshirt”) if given half the opportunity, then they are seriously deluded. This guy in power would be mightely anti-democratic. For our good, of course…
#100 mareeS
Wow, I may have dated her daughter in a former life. :)
Re the Socialist Workers Party, you’re prolly right, no open bar. It’s just that when I see the word ‘Party’, I’m picturing underpants on head drunken antics, not tinfoil hats and oh so serious expressions.
At least until they all sit down to watch a recorded speech from Fidel or Hugo, when all is well, and Socialist Utopia has returned.
Sad f*cks the lot of them, and with no open bar, not even the excuse of drunkeness.I love it when people hit me up for donations for those sort of organisations, I like to try to hit them up for a no interest loan when they do.
The look of confusion is priceless. :)Business Plan: Solar Credits
The rapidly expanding market in carbon credits has demonstrated the capacity of concerned citizens to pay for entitlements to allow Solar Greed. Good grief…
112 You make me happy when skies are grey.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 25 at 07:28 AM • permalink#115 Oh yes. Hitler wanted us on his side.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 25 at 08:01 AM • permalink#121 Thin and Totalitarian
Thank God that didn’t happen, I am crap at Ze German, and I grew up on ‘Carry On’ movies and ‘Frank Spencer.’
I don’t think they would have been the same, somehow, if Ze Germans (no offence PW) won.I just couldn’t see Michael Crawford (in that incarnation at least) as a Nazi. :)
#122 Ash_
Please don’t make me swoon! :)Well, I do all of that (legacy of living with people who have no idea), and I actually don’t mind doing so.
But I have never yet been with someone who is fast enough to refill my beer.
Anyhows, I must get to bed, I have a slightly early start in the morning, and some work to do tonight on the laptop before I get to sleep. ;)
Sleep well folks, and God Bless.
My favourite, from the Moonbits’ commenters…
In the early seventies when I, along with many others, ‘dropped out’ to form the alternative society, we claimed social security, didn’t go to work, yet worked very hard. We rented cottages in the country with large gardens, tilled the soil by hand, grew organic vegetables (I had to import a book from California to explain how), kept goats and chickens and strove to live in harmony with the natural world.
And there you have it in a nutshell.
A totally unsustainable way of life, except for a self-indulgent few.
Oh, by the way, I thought “sunshine in a can” came from these fine folks.I’m so waiting for climate change to get here. Today we had sun, We had blue sky. We had 18C temperature in the middle of winter. It’s all so detestably normal.
Where’s the snow?
The only excitement we’ve had lately was the storm and the flood and the shipwreck, but that’s all so boringly usual here. And earthquakes. They only happen every 60 years and they don’t stay around, but they give my ex-friend Mary something to bang on about, to do with planet damage (the new climate change). And bushfires, but they only happen after it rains and trees grow and then dry out during a drought, and somebody chucks a lit cigarette out of the car.
Basically, shit happens and someone tries to make science out of it.
#63 Wimpy Canadian: Alas hell hath no fury like a classical liberal telling a neo-Marxist like Moonbat where to get off…
We here in Blighty have endured several years of dry summers and mild winters, and equally endured several years of sermonizing from middle class Stalinists like Moonbat telling us that the end is nigh unless we adapt massive and permanent energy rationing through the creation of global carbon cartels that make OPEC look like libertarians.
But the world has stopped warming, and if the solar climate hypothesis is correct and predicted future solar cycles will be very weak, it looks like we’re going to get at least 25-30 years of cooling - which is no-one’s idea of fun.
#130, John A,
The earth does what it does, regardless of humans. Here in Oz there are 30 million sheep, 70 million cattle, nobody knows how many camels, goats, dogs, cats, dingoes, quolls, kangaroos, wallabies, emus, tasmanian devils, rats, mice, platypus, ducks, geese, brolgas…well, I could go on for another 20,000 species who live here in our particularly lovely corner of the planet.
But the beasts far outnumber the humans, and for the life of me I can’t get into the mind of people who’d ditch humans in favour of animals.
That’s probably just me, though. I’d rather be catching fish or reading a book than analysing thir minds.
I was going to go and liquidate my retirement and buy solar panels.
Then I was going to go and shoot all the cows, because their methane causes global warming.
Now it’s raining too much in Britain - must be global cooling has caused the atmosphere to release too much water.
Good I didn’t actually do anything or I’d have made it worse.
“It wasn’t meant to happen like this.”—Moonbat
Of course, it was meant to happen like this.
Do you think the weather gods are going to listen to your predictions of gloom and doom and then react accordingly to fulfill your wishes?
Ass.
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A new manmade Ice Age. Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah. Here.