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MISSILE STORY IV
A righteous tip o’ the hat to Bonjour Triteness, who suggests a complete picture of the Red Cross ambulance attack may only be achieved by combining Martin Chulov’s two reports:
* The “first ambulance”, no. 782, was speeding in a convoy AND stationary;
* The six people on board the convoy were all severely injured except Shalin the driver AND only two were severely injured;
* Shalin was protected by the driver’s canopy AND by the vehicle’s rear ramp;
* The ambulance/convoy was struck by a rocket/s AND missile/s fired by an Apache helicopter that was also a drone;
* The missile pierced the centre of the red cross on ambulance 782 AND “an explosion thundered” into the ambulance;
* Shalin “remembers nothing” after the flash-bang-crunch of the crash AND he remembers that “then there was a battle for the next hour” and “we hid in a building convinced we were going to die”.
The Australian’s readers aren’t impressed:
Chulov stands by his original story? Then why did he change all of his original details?
And from Tony Parkinson, now media advisor to Alexander Downer:
I’m sure I’m not the only reader of The Australian to have been mystified once confronted by the photographic evidence of these attacks: a single hole in a roof; the vehicle otherwise intact, and little sign in the vehicle’s interior of explosion or fire. As a former war correspondent with The Australian, I witnessed the scenes of devastation on the so-called Highway to Hell outside Kuwait City during Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Hundreds of molten wreckages littering that battlefield had been struck by missiles fired by US Apache helicopters. If, indeed, this ambulance in Lebanon had taken a direct hit from an Apache assault helicopter, the outcome was like no other I had seen ...
I have no quarrel with Chulov wishing to stand by his story. I simply make the point that it has become a different story to that he reported on July 26.
Readers of this site are also sceptical. Dan Lewis:
It’s funny. I would have thought the lefties could use this as a rare chance to really lay the boot into Murdoch and News Ltd (owners of The Australian).
It seems, however, they may be too distracted laying the boot into Jews.
If you look at the hole in the roof of that ambulance it is quite obvious that those evil Zionists have developed the ultimate WMD - air to surface angle grinders. No muslim emergency services vehicle will be safe! Not even SPECTRE could come up with something so diabolical. God help us all.
Could Chulov be so clueless not to notice that the story had changed so completely, and precisely in a way to explain the doubts raised by the blogs?
And Currency Lad:
The wider context for today’s embarrassing leader is the newspaper’s campaign to discredit Alexander Downer - whose resignation an unnamed editorialist for The Australian has called for over the AWB affair ... Their resentment boiled over today with this hilarious attempt to argue that the people who told Chulov a pack of lies must now be believed because he checked with the liars a second time.
Previous posts on this matter here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.
The only people defending Chulov are the pomos and other retards who want to pretend that this will all go away (usually using the “waaaah, it’s only the internet” defence) despite it being overwhelmingly obvious to anyone with functioning optic nerves that Chulov’s stories (note the plural) are all utter bollocks.
Coming on the heels of the Adnan Hajj controversy, this is a twofer!
Posted by benson swears a lot on 2006 08 31 at 02:29 PM • permalinkIt is bad enough that Chulov insults his readers with a blatantly different second story that purports to back up his first story, but where the hell are his editors? They seem to be stuck on the fact that a WEBSITE is questioning them, but they haven’t bothered to make sure that his second story matched his first. Do they expect a sneer at Zombietime to act as a rebuttal?
I’ve about decided that these people really aren’t being disrespectful of our intelligence. They just think we’re all as stupid as they are.
Or one using some of the weirder abilities attributed to nanotechnology. No, I’m not talking about the stain-resistant shirts.
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2006 08 31 at 02:42 PM • permalinkThey are learning the hard way that their dismissal of blogs is ill-founded and unwise. Sure, anyone can start a blog. Anyone can start a newspaper too. It’s about as easy to start a high readership blog as it is to start a high readership newspaper. The SMH is learning that getting good blogs off the ground takes work, even when you start with an advantage. The medium is not the message. It just makes the message travel a hell of a lot faster.
Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 31 at 02:47 PM • permalinkDo they expect a sneer at Zombietime to act as a rebuttal?
Why not? All their friends and co-workers believe it’s quite effective.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 08 31 at 03:15 PM • permalinkIt was a plastic missile.
Fortunately for you, PW, I had just swallowed when I read this. I won’t be sending you a cleaning bill after all.
:-D
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 08 31 at 03:20 PM • permalinkIs the australian going to fold on this?
It would be a first; I haven’t seen any sins in other papers.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 08 31 at 03:25 PM • permalinkBased on the limited damage to the vehicles that I’ve seen, I think they may well have been attacked by Apaches .
It’s time someone asks the question. How many innocent journalistic memes must you destroy with your sadistic quoting and Googling?
Just how many, Tim?
Ten? Twenty? A hundred?
How many innocent newborn media narratives must die, before Inspector Timbo Javert finally satisfies his insane lust for “accuracy” and “evidence” and “corroboration”?
At long last, can’t you just leave your fellow journalists to follow their own bliss toward the higher truth?
I will now leave you to introspect in shame. I have a PhotoShop class to attend.
paco, mayhaps this was present as well during the attack.......but was filled with this instead of this.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 08 31 at 03:58 PM • permalink#10 The SMH are laying low until they see which way the wind is blowing. Smart move.
As for the Australian, I can’t see an easy way out of this for them. Their best bet is probably to throw Chulov to the wolves and run like hell.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 31 at 04:01 PM • permalink#16: The Pint-size Airborne Cruise Ordnance, manufactured by Paco Defense Industries, could have caused this damage, but I’m not at liberty to say any more about international sales of this product.
Personally, I believe the ordnance used has been accurately identified by 91B30 and the Real Jeff, above.
Not only was the evil Zionist missile a new type that explodes without harming the interior of target vehicle, it carefully undoes the bolts holding the top light on before it penetrated the roof. Bastards!
Posted by brian_smaller on 2006 08 31 at 06:04 PM • permalinkI believe SPECTRE changed their name back in the 80’s. They’re now called Hizballah.
Posted by Spectre765 on 2006 08 31 at 06:49 PM • permalinkA recurring problem for reporters in the middle east is not only that most of them don’t speak Arabic but that in Arabic culture it is perfectly acceptable and often seen as a duty to lie.
“Jordan entered the Arab coalition against Israel in the humiliating and devastating 1967 war, because the commander of Egypt’s forces sent a coded communique to King Hussein claiming that Egypt had destroyed 75 percent of Israel’s attacking warplanes, destroyed Israel’s bases in a counterattack, and that its ground forces had penetrated Israel itself (Patai, The Arab Mind, p. 102). The world now knows that Israel almost entirely destroyed Egypt’s air force along with those of three other nations in less than three hours from the commencement of hostilities.
“King Hussein of Jordan said: ‘These [Egyptian] reports—fantastic to say the least—had much to do with our confusion and false interpretation of the situation’ (ibid., p. 103).
John Laffin comments: ‘To claim to have inflicted heavy military losses on an enemy makes this a fact, even if no military action whatever took place’ (Laffin, The Arab Mind, p.50).
[and in the current anti-Israel climate, to claim that Israel has committed war crimes achieves a similar objective to inflicting military loss...]
And an Egyptian Arab says, ‘When we Arabs praise some imaginary deed, we are carried away by the same feeling of satisfaction that we would feel if we had really carried it out’ (the editor of Al-Ahram. Quoted in John Laffin, Fedayeen: The Arab-Israeli Dilemma, p. 105).
“ ‘This is a difficult concept for a Westerner to grasp, but until he does so, many Arab actions and statements make little sense’ (Laffin, The Arab Mind, p. 50). The Arab mind struggles with reality and, therefore, usually operates more in the realm of fantasy. It lives in the glories of its people’s past and not in actualities—it fabricates events to explain current or past failures.”
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 08 31 at 07:19 PM • permalinkbonjour triteness:
“ ‘This is a difficult concept for a Westerner to grasp, but until he does so, many Arab actions and statements make little sense’ (Laffin, The Arab Mind, p. 50). The Arab mind struggles with reality and, therefore, usually operates more in the realm of fantasy. It lives in the glories of its people’s past and not in actualities—it fabricates events to explain current or past failures.”
I hope you didn’t utter this in Victoria.
As a regular reader of The Australian I am very disappointed with this stupid attempt at covering up incorrect story. I would have accepted an apology and a statement that they would be a lot more careful from now on but their efforts since have destroyed their creditability.
By the way if your going to try and do a cover up at least stick to the original story. Or has The Australian gone all post-modernist with two different stories both being the truth?
Bonjour tritenesse (I have long wanted to congratulate you on your cool nom de comment, by the way), if you do get bothered by the Multiculti Nannies over there, I suggest you tell them that what you have recounted is not considered shameful by Arabs, and therefore it is the Nannies, who, by applying standard Western cultural disgust towards the act of lying and making up shit to look big to a non-Western culture, are the ones engaging in borderline “hate-crime” activity.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 31 at 07:58 PM • permalinkIt has come to my attention that a number of infidel dog swine readers of this blog have questioned my impartial reports which clearly demonstrate that the Israelis have fired a missile through the dome of the Pantheon in Rome killing unknown numbers of small children.
I have checked this story with an eyewitness of these postcards and therefore stand by it in every detail. I can further confirm it may not have involved a missile or the pantheon so much as it involved me leaving my hut at the dead of night to attend to my ablutions only to innocently bump repeatedly into a goat.
I therefore urge Alexander Downer to resign.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 08 31 at 08:07 PM • permalinkI’d like you all to consider the possibility that the original hoax ambulance photo might have been a deliberate creation to discredit pro-Hezbollah propaganda. In a war being fought partially through the media lens, such an act would be a clever way of discrediting an argument. I’m not saying that this is what happened- just that is a possibility. These days nothing would surprise me.
Richard Tonkin at Webdiary. yesterday.
What I said three days ago:
“How long before we see the first published theory that this was a hoax planned by the Israelis (or perhaps the Americans) to make Hezbollah and/or Red Cross and/or MSM look bad? So as to discredit them?
“I am not joking here. This thing is way beyond comedy. I am asking a serious question. I’ll give it ten days at most before someone like Fisk will be saying something like “Well who knows who was behind the ambulance missile hoax? Who stands to benefit from it? This is a murky world and there are sources telling me that it was Mossad who ...” “
I have to come clean and reveal the truth to the world public.
The truth is, the neocon Zionists have been so exhausted by their agressions against the peace-loving Muslims of Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine that we are reduced to using the old black-powder Apache helicopters firing roundshot…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 08 31 at 08:15 PM • permalink"Bye Bob
“I’m not CP and neither am I interested in defending him or entering into any other aspect of your discussion with him. I was backing him in a particular matter which I’ve made personal protestations to you about. Like last time, you answer real concerns with silly debating tricks. I give up on yet another propagandist. Haven’t got time mate.”
Hamish Alcorn to Bob Wall at Webdiary twenty minutes ago.
Sorry. Should have said that was off-topic.
"When we talk about war we normally think about armies crossing borders or planes, sadly, raining bombs on people.
“This is a different, more elusive, menacing threat, and therefore we need new contemporary, effective, relevant responses, and that’s why things like control orders are necessary,”. Mr H talking about the new form of Islamic terrorism here in Australia.
In order to win the war, we must promote more bikinnis, Bert Newtown shows, more Australian Infiedel Idol programs, let them blow up Australia so we can really truly ruly dispise them here in Australia, and then we can understand the true EVIL Islam.
Kysa Tred-on’s response was pathetic, Mr H, good onya for highlighting it’s our way not the Islamite way of life in Australia. Don’t you realise that’s why they have so many wars? Don’t piss in our country and take handouts or we should VITO funding for this Commun-ity of (in-toll-errrrr-ance).
Solution stop migration or tell the Islamics we had to INVENT jobs for them because they are a useless race to us here.
Serious question here folks and a chance to demonstrate prescience:
Assuming that Media Watch will run something on this subject,
a) What should they do?
b) What will they do?
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 08 31 at 09:18 PM • permalinkI would think a guy with a name like “Chulov” would be more sensitive to and introspective of these sort Pravda-esque lies and fabrications in defense of a false world-view. Given that the same sort of lockstep slavishness by people with Russian surnames resulted in the murder of tens of millions in the last century by the perpetrators of said lies.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 08 31 at 09:29 PM • permalinkThe Israelis launched a missile/drone/whatever at my house today. I have photographic evidence of the attack, and several readers are reporting Israeli attacks on their own domiciles and/or prostates.
I congratulate Mr. Chulov for standing and bearing second-hand witness to what he heard someone else say he saw with his own eyes.While Chulov is the topic of conversation does anyone remember this article of his and whether there was any follow up.
Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies July 1st 2006
Generated lively discussion both in left and right blogs. However the following comment
“Scoose me, couldn’t see any direct link to an Israeli letter of any kind. Only an Australian paper saying that the Palestinians say there was one. Couldn’t find any reference to such letter on any Israeli paper online. Before discussing the implications, could you be certain this is a real item?”
Commenter on Outside the beltway
And then the Partisan times
The Unlikely Threat: Israel Will Assassinate PM Haniyeh
The Australian makes no reference to the source of this new information. Did the reporter speak with an Israeli or Palestinian official? or did he receive an anonymous tip? Either way, he needs to inform his readers….
The Australian reports that the threat was delivered through a letter to Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas. Did The Australian receive a copy of this letter? Why aren’t there any direct quotes from the letter itself? Why would Israel be sending Abbas a letter in the first place?…
Who wrote the letter? The Australian makes no reference to the source of the letter. Instead, it just reports that a letter was delivered. Was there no return address? or a “Yours truly” followed by a signature?….
Why is The Australian the only paper reporting on this story? Surely a threat on Haniyeh’s life is newsworthy, unless, of course, it’s not news, but rather complete, unverifiable bulls**t….
And Captain’s Quarters at the time.
“Not much in the way of confirmation has come through since this initial report. The Jerusalem Post does not have a story on its site this morning confirming this threat, nor does the BBC or other wire services have any other independent reporting on this.”Only found it at UPI, word for word so assume his article.
Any memories. Or is Mr Chulov a practised liar?
Chulov proved his usefulness. I have long noticed his “reports” are crap. They picked their man carefully.
The only issue here is whether the man is an incompetent, incredibly stupid, worthless buffoon or a sniggering, slimy liar of the worst kind.
Frankly I don’t care. I’ll leave that one for his mother.
I’ve posted this before and after this I’m going to leave it at that. Chulov explains the rusting in part by "where (Lebanon’s)humidity on the coast does not drop below 70per cent.” If you ever want a fine example of a non-sequitur this is it.
Humidity in Lebanon is currently at 75%. Over next 5 days projections are around 50%.
Humidity at the Australian Antartic Division Weather station at Casey (66 Degrees South - perched on the edge of the Antartic Ice cap) is currently 82%. Phew, must be pretty tropical and humid down there eh? Far worse than the paltry 70% Chulov quotes. Here’s an image of it. Note all the beach umbrellas and palm trees. I think I can even see a bloke in budgie smugglers sucking on a stubby under one of them.
I’ll say it again and it may sound strange, but a high relative humidity does not imply what people refer to as “high humidity” atmospheric conditions. And vice versa. But then again, not much in his story is correct, so I shouldn’t expect him to bother too much about the atmospherics.
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 08 31 at 10:42 PM • permalinkNote, Israelis, here’s how to really destroy an ambulance:
The Age’s Jordan Chong reported today that an ambulance was destroyed when it was engulfed in flames while travelling south on the Hume Freeway, just north of Melbourne.
A Metropolitan Ambulance spokesman told him that the driver pulled over as the fire rapidly took hold.
Firefighters arrived quickly, but the ambulance was “was essentially gone by the time they got there”.
Imagine what damage a missile would have done.
Posted by Geoffrey MG on 2006 08 31 at 11:17 PM • permalinkO/T
Students take oath on the Koran. Excuse me for cussing, but Jesus.H.Christ on a pony. I wonder if we will end up with Muslim only police squads, like they have in Austria, whom refused to salute the national flag until the local cleric issued a fatwa saying it was ok?
#34
Excellent question MM, thank you for your perspicacity.
Media Watch should
a) show the photos from zombietime and summarise the arguments as to why some people think it is a hoax;
b) utilise a middle east correspondent if that person is available to verify the fact that these claims have been made, seek out victims to speak to, or others to verify or unverify the story;
c) seek brief comment from the Red Cross and Israel;
d) ask Marty about criticisms of the story including why the story changed;
e) ask an expert in ballistics about the case
However, I predict that Media Watch will:
a) not show the photos or explain the arguments very carefully except to say it comes from a right wing website
b) quote Marty and take it as gospel without asking any difficult questions;
c) question the anonymity of the story and the value of Alexander Downer’s sources;
d) claim that in war there are all kinds of different perspectives and who knows what to believe except perhaps that Israel are lying murderers;
e) move on quickly to discuss AWB or some such;
f) continue to be outraged that the Launceston Examiner does not agree with Greenpeace and that breakfast show weather presenters are not good journalists.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 09 01 at 12:33 AM • permalinkI can’t believe The Australian lately. Have they gone stark raving mad? Where is it written that to be a broadsheet you also have to be barking mad lunatic left?
The Oz was always a broadsheet breath of fresh air but after yesterday’s effort to defend the ambulance hoax photos and now today getting stuck into Howard for stating the bleedin’ obvious (some Muslims don’t integrate into society).
Sheeesh. I think they’ve contracted broadsheet infection. If the paper keeps on this course I’ll be changing my paper buying habits. What’s worse, lunatic lefties will have to stop calling it a Murdoch rag.
Let’s just say that the amulance WAS hit by the Israeli army. The truth that is left is thi; the Hezbollah and other terrorist organisations purposefully seek to kill and maim as many innocents as possible, while the Israeli army, collatoral damagae aside, goes out of its way to avoid death of non combatants. This is something that seems to go over the tops of the heads of most people.
Taqqiya is a Koran teaching that knows no bounds as long as it is roughly in the realm of “war” - and ‘war’ is not always the same word as it is in the west. Hezbollah WERE using not only ambulances to get around, but people’s apartments and streets in populated areas.
The Australian might be trying to pick up some of The Age‘s six readers, of which three read the same copy in a cafe in Fitzroy; two are public servants who buy it so the TV guide can tell them what to watch next week on the ABC and one is a restaurant critic who buys it for Epicure.
The other few hundred copies printed go to public libraries where they are ripped up, scrawled on and used as personal discharge blotter by intellectually disabled or criminally insane adults who think they are in a hospital, imbecilic school-avoiding youths and demented elderly citizens who have forgotten to go home.
used as personal discharge blotter
??? Blurrrrggghhhh!=^0
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 09 01 at 01:21 AM • permalinkWhat a strange world we live in.
Isalmofascism, an ideology dedicated to the destruction of all that is liberal and secular, has declared war on the West. Yet western leftists and progressives, whose very existence is dependant upon the survival of the West, and who claim to be the champions of liberalism and the secularism, rush to advance the cause of the islamofascists, waiving their flags and banners in the streets.
The msm, the supposed champion of that great western tradition of a free press, a press dedicated to the reporting of the truth, becomes a willing propaganda arm of the west’s enemies.
The courts and the criminal justice system are seemingly intent on trashing the rules of war and thwarting our security measures at every opportunity, even releasing self-proclaimed enemies among us, in the public interest - for our own good.
People watch with amazement as leaders, politicians, institutions, governments, even nations, buckle under the strain of having to defend their own values and traditions.
But we live and adapt. As one instrument fails another emerges in its place. The msm falls and the blogosphere rises. Our courts fail, so we outsource the job. Domestic prisons can’t cope – Guantanamo Bay. Geneva conventions apply to terrorists – fine, tell that to the private security forces we now use – they don’t have uniforms or play by the rules, either. Going to tie the police’s hands? no worries, stand by for organised covert vigilantism, with deep public support.
I see Dan Reihl who first raised doubts about the photos is urging caution about pursuing the “hoax” claims.
Correct me if I am wrong but his main doubts centre on the aspects of rust and the positioning of the stretcher which makes it possible that the patient’s leg may have been severed by a missile coming through the vent - sorry roof.
These doubts may be relevant if they were consistent with the rest of the story. The witnesses, in particular Qassem Shaalan, were adamant that a missile went through the roof and exploded. The explosion was so intense that in some reports he said he was blown 15-25 feet away from the back door which he was closing at the time.
This is damning. The platform for the missile strike - in one report he said that 2 missiles hit each ambulance - was 2 Israeli jets (Associated Press, Helicopter gunship (Time) and Apache helicopter (The Australian).
These weapon platforms were nominated because they reinforce the impression of evil intent on behalf of the Israelis. What must not be forgotten here is the purpose of this story - to show that the Israelis perpetrate war crimes and deliberately target not only civilians but workers dedicated to saving those injured in the conflict.
This motive fits in perfectly with the ITV video where the presenter practically hyperventilates as he exoriates the Israelis for this heineous attack. So the exploding missile directly targeted at the centre of the Red Cross is central to the story they want to convey.
When the details come under scrutiny, we find the witnesses and those conveying the story (Chulov) drastically altering the details of what they so breathlessly put forward earlier.
Instead of missiles delivered by Apaches or jets that leave targets as twisted metal we now have a new weapon delivered by a drone that is so localised that it doesn’t leave any collateral damage.
So originally we had Israeli jets or gunships firing missiles deliberately at ambulances now morphed into drones that deliver weapons so surgical that they sever limbs, and produce just enough fire to seal the resulting wound but leave little or no other damage in the vehicle.
In their attempt to make their story fit the photographic evidence, they are actually running away from the purpose of the story which was to brand the Israelis as war criminals who indiscriminately target civilians and caring organisations. Using such weapons as Chulov would now have is believe, completely contradicts that idea.
The rust evidence is not conclusive to whether the story is a hoax or not. What damns the story is the claims of an exploding missile inside the vehicle. They cannot run away from that. There is no evidence of a blast inside that ambulance which is central to the direct targeting charge.
This is only slightly O/T - the dabate is whether The Australian has caved in to broadsheet shitheadedness as practiced over at the Fairfax Evil Empire.
It seems the Fairfax “rivers of gold” are beginning to dry up due to global warming. They’ve been saying it long enough and now, sure enough it happened.
I guess the downturn in profit and circulation (announced today), will be spin-doctored into temporary market trends etc. but it’s obvious to me.
Readership (demographic) - essentially inner urban, public servant or member of the ‘arts’, academe, teachers etc. Labor or Greens voters one and all. A lot of cardigan wearing, bearded, latte lovin’ basket weavers. Fits ABC staff profile perfectly.
Advertisers: the ‘rivers of gold’ brigade. Check demographics and purchase their media according to accepted spending patterns. Thus the Fairfax demographic does not fit well with advertisers who wish to flog their gear to the mortgage belt, outer suburban commuters, stay at home mums, pensioners, trades people aspiring to live in or actually live in one of those dreaded McMansion ‘monstrosities’. A shrinking demographic due to editorial policies that actually exclude about seven-eighths of the workforce.
In a nutshell whowants to advertise in a rag that has such a narrow appeal?
Can anyone explain how a missle that allegedly went through this amulance-cross so perfectly, didn’t blow up either the amulance or the people in it?? I know very little about weapons etc, but I thought that the purpose of a missle was to explode. So if a missle did go thru this ambulance, then why is the ambulance still in one piece? And if it didn’t explode, then do they have the missle as evidence?
Hi Tim,
I sent a letter to The Australian (I know, stupid, nobody reads them anyway) pointing not at the story itself, but at the overall poor quality of writing.
Mr Chulov claims that “The Israeli-made drones have many types of missiles” while there is no information on to any type of UAV-mounted missiles at all, except for American-made AGM-114 Hellfire.
He recommends Mr Downer to study “Buyer’s guide” to the UAV purchased by Austrlia. If he cared to study anything at all, he would find that the Skylark mini-UAVs that were purchased by Australia could not carry missiles of any type, or even a hand-grenade.
Overall, the quality of Mr Chulov’s reporting si bellow the one of some amature bloggers. Why do they publish him in The Australian?
Posted by Terry Crane on 2006 09 01 at 02:47 AM • permalink#19 - Now, that’s what I call a smart bomb. Apparently the same evil Zionist weapon also immobilises the vehicle first, advises the occupants to get out at their leisure, gives them a cup of tea and scones for their trouble, sends them on their way, before penetrating the roof in the neatest and most symmetrical way possible, and then does not explode, so as not to inconveniently incinerate anyone or cause undue property damage. How good is this bomb? Not only is it smart, it’s polite and non-destructive. It’s a sensative, new-age, polite, smart bomb. I only wish I invented the fucking useless thing - I’d sell it like hot-cakes to the UN and make a mint.
larrikin says : “waiving their flags and banners in the streets”. I wish they did ‘waive’ their banners as they are either traitorous or nonsense.
Good post though, larri.Correct me if I’m wrong, but in all the ambulance pix I have yet to see the battered, rusted top AND the sides clearly in the one shot. Why not, and why did no-one suspect they were being set up by not having full access?
The sides are in almost pristine condition compared with ‘the top’. With all that fragmentary damage on top, shouldn’t some of it have spilled onto the sides, given the claims [some, anyway] of ‘an explosion in the vicinity’.
The numbers of severe contradictions cannot be explained as ‘interviewee memory’ or even occasional exaggeration. These guys are just bad, inconsistent liars.#28 geoff:
"I’d like you all to consider the possibility that the original hoax ambulance photo might have been a deliberate creation to discredit pro-Hezbollah propaganda."
It’s funny, sane people would probably consider “pro-Hezbollah propaganda” to be self-discrediting, but evidently Tonkin and the muppets at Webdiary are a bit more open-minded when it comes to propaganda they agree with.
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That muffled sound you hear is the collective efforts of Chulov and the Australian editorial staff attempting to speak clearly and coherently in spite having their feet firmly inserted into their mouths.
Good work, people. Too bad the MSM can’t or won’t drop their arrogant “We tell you what the news means” schtick.