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Apologies for so few posts; it’s a little difficult to maintain internet access when driving a cube-shaped baby Pontiac (I think the model type is Zion—a Pontiac Zion) through interstate snow drifts. Especially when the car involved offers no evidence of an engine, apart from requiring fuel.

Classic rock FM radio fact: Gimme Three Steps was played four times today, narrowly defeating Sweet Home Alabama (3 repetitions) as the Lynyrd Skynard classic rock selection of the day. It even beat out Piano Man, the opening notes of which were detected just twice. Once, in fact, as three youngsters driving in front of me were nearly pitched into a snowbank in response to a trucker’s impatient honking. Snow driving is fun; make any incorrect move and you’re all ditch-dwelling or tree-thumping. Thing is, almost any move is wrong. Driving on impacted snow is like performing heart surgery on a hummingbird.

Through sheer driving genius (and the lack of snow post-Chicago) I’m now at the Minnesota compound of James Lileks, who tomorrow will try to establish a local tradition of turkey consumption. It could catch on; he’s very influential.

More soon. Must add wine to that turkey idea.

And Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. We all of us have a whole bunch to be thankful for.

 

Posted by Tim B. on 11/24/2005 at 12:50 AM
  1. Here’s some more heartwarming Christmas goodwill from our American allies at Voice of America.
    Nice to know they’re thinking of us at this cheery time.

    US to Resume Sales of Lethal Weapons to Indonesia
    The United States has decided to resume the sale of lethal military hardware to Indonesia. The State Department announced Tuesday that in the interest of U.S. national security it has exercised its authority under a law passed earlier this month to waive conditions on U.S. military relations with Indonesia

    voanews.com/english/2005-11-23-voa1.cfm

    The State Department statement says “Indonesia has made significant progress in advancing its democratic institutions and practices in a relatively short time.”
    Someone sould tell Johnny ?

    Posted by davo on 2005 11 24 at 02:20 AM • permalink

  2. I have it on good authority that James Lileks is quite partial to Oz wine. Hope you brought some, Tim. Please send him my regards.

    Also, if you get the chance, please say “Hi” to Mrs G (Gnat’s Nana), and if you can, ask to sample some of her insanely yummy caramels.

    Glad you got there safely.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 11 24 at 02:21 AM • permalink

  3. I hope it won’t be plastic turkey!

    Posted by pog-ma-thon on 2005 11 24 at 02:27 AM • permalink

  4. Tim! You’re still with us! Much relieved.
    Leaping in early on this thread to go completely off topic, I’d just like to ask: Has anyone else had an email from Bob Geldof recently? Yes, that Bob Geldof. I haven’t opened it yet but I know it’s him because the subject line is: THIS IS CRITICAL. Critical, eh? First the bastard invades my privacy and then he comes on like I’m International Rescue. I could open the damned thing I suppose, but not on the work computer. Just in case it’s carrying something.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2005 11 24 at 02:31 AM • permalink

  5. What, no Freebird?

    Posted by OMGWTFBBQ on 2005 11 24 at 03:19 AM • permalink

  6. There’s no such thing as a Pontiac Zion, Tim, which is a shame; I was going to suggest everyone clubbing together and buying one for Margo.

    Posted by blandwagon on 2005 11 24 at 03:23 AM • permalink

  7. HAH!  Turkeyday with the Lileks!  Watch out for Jasper; I recall that he is considered The Most Evil Dog In The World™.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 11 24 at 03:30 AM • permalink

  8. Journalism must pay rather well, Tim seems to spend lots of time overseas in USA.  *envy* :-)

    Posted by Steve at the pub on 2005 11 24 at 03:31 AM • permalink

  9. O/t On Hateline Singaporean opposition member Chee Soon Juan announced that “you’ve got to understand that UNLIKE IN AUSTRALIA,Singapore’s not a democratic society.Every t.v. station,every radio station,,every newspaper is under the control of the Government and the Government has thus far let very little of this information(about the death penalty)go out to the public”.
    HELLO ARE YOU RECEIVING ABC,SBS,TONY JONES,RED KEZZA,PHAT ADAMS,MOTHER DOOGUE,FAIRFAX,BOB BROWNY,THE “DEMOCRATS"etc,

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 03:31 AM • permalink

  10. ABC continues to try and force private companies and/or the Feds to cancel commercial contracts and dealings with Singapore.
    Having screeched ad nauseum about Howard not being “in touch” with Asia the Paragon that we must all try to be touchy feely with and never ever insult or cause to lose “face”——-What do they imagine Asia to be-no country is without drawbacks,even our friend the U.S. -even (amazingly) Australia.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 03:36 AM • permalink

  11. o/t Boss of ABC talk networks,Mark Collier has resigned after five years,to spend time in CANADA with his partner.Collier was responsible for Radio National,rural and news radio.The ABC has decided not to replace him.source OZ today.also DAD Julie McCrossin’s attempts to get a job back at radio national have failed.Life Matters will be hosted by Richard Aedy.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 03:42 AM • permalink

  12. I brought the Oz wine. And it’s ALL GONE.

    Posted by Tim B. on 2005 11 24 at 03:52 AM • permalink

  13. Expect very little bleatage tomorrow, because I am having a house guest; if experience is any judge, I will need 46 aspirin and a fresh liver Wednesday morning.

    Heh.

    BTW You might update James on my little, er, melodrama of this year, not sure he’s heard.

    Hope he got the Women’s Weekly Cookbook I sent him some time ago, too, I forgot to follow up on that.

    Hope you guys have a good time.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 11 24 at 03:56 AM • permalink

  14. Help! I’m logged in as Tim Blair! He used my laptop at the kitchen table and now he has absorbed my identity!

    Crikey!

    Lileks

    Posted by Tim B. on 2005 11 24 at 03:56 AM • permalink

  15. Oh, you definitely have been at the plonk… Happy Thanksgiving! May your Turkeys never be Plastic!

    Not that I think you’d notice, in your current state.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 11 24 at 03:58 AM • permalink

  16. Stop using the internet and party down you goddamn nerds

    Posted by OMGWTFBBQ on 2005 11 24 at 03:58 AM • permalink

  17. OMGWTFBBQ… I think they’re both incorrigible, so no need to incorrige them.

    It’s 1900 local time, so it must be about, what, 1am there.

    I’m wondering - will 46 aspirin be enough?

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 11 24 at 04:03 AM • permalink

  18. O/T Also in OZ today-Errol Simper cries over the pitiful situation of retrenched cronies.If their output is as blatantly left skewed as his,their sackings are not surprising when loss of circulation figures are taken into account.
    At the A.G.M. of Fairfax (or rather outside)are 100 scribes in white t shirts with the recycled anti apartheid( South African black miners’) slogan attached.
    “Fred got the gold mine,we got the shaft.”
    Among the “demonstrateurs” Tim Vaughan,Joyce Morgan,David Marr,Doug Anderson,Gerard Noonan,Conrad Walters,Jenny Cooke,Kate McClymont,Garrett Jones,Michael Visontay and Bruce Wolpe.
    Simper states that smh journo Darren Goodsir “points to a GLARING INCONSISTENCY”
    -that “Fairfax is shedding skills and expertise,yet pledging improvement.”.“It DOESN’T MAKE SENSE”.“Steven Mayne founder of Crikey is critical.So are others.The core question,the one about glaring inconsistency doesn’t get answered.”
    They just don’t get it do they.
    One answer can be found further down in the article where Simper says"another old friend Chris Schatch,once Fed ALP’s commumications spokesman and a former senator of uncommon good sense says"FAIRFAX IN COMMON WITH THE ABC,MUST BRAVE HOSTILITY IN MAINTAINING A PROPORTION OF LEFT OF CENTRE OPINIONS IN ITS TITLES.”
    They just don’t get it do they?(Yes twice.)

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 04:06 AM • permalink

  19. So it’s ok for travelling Aussies to crash at Lilek’s joint? I know he doesnt know me from a bar of soap but I feel like I’ve known him for years - I’m sure we’ll hit it off!
    P.S. I hope he doesnt have kids - I hate ‘em.

    Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 11 24 at 04:15 AM • permalink

  20. Simper’s page mate Mark Day writes a long piece about “pretty white girl”(X2), released ecstasy user and ex prisoner in Bali gaol,Michelle Leslie.
    I thought it had previously been stated that she had Asian family connections,could be wrong.Also that she was released for other reasons than being pretty and white.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  21. You sherman tanks look after our Tim- we expect him back in mint condition…

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 04:20 AM • permalink

  22. Welcome to Minnesota Tim!

    It’s an honor to have you in my home-town and in this country on the occasion of this wonderful holiday.

    Enjoy your time in Tangle-Town.

    James; Mom loved your latest book. She also loved the previous one.

    Please coordinate more fall book-releases for the next thirty or so years, as your books have (happily) replaced scented candles as the expected birthday gift from her second son.

    Enjoy the bird all!

    Oh yeah and the lutefisk.

    /bad memories of force-feeding of that slippery wretchedness from my Swede Dad.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 11 24 at 04:20 AM • permalink

  23. Vindice: P.S. I hope he doesnt have kids - I hate ‘em.

    Ah, that is my favorite “Lileks on Hewitt” live radio moment of all time:

    Not now, honey—Daddy is doing punditry....
    —J.L.  (She wanted to finish “Uno”)

    Posted by zeppenwolf on 2005 11 24 at 04:31 AM • permalink

  24. while tim’s away, there is something infantile & oafish to do by way of fucking with the ACTU - go to http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/campaigns/takeastand

    it was kinda fun signing as Rightwing Deathbeast & sending the message “tosser”

    Posted by KK on 2005 11 24 at 04:57 AM • permalink

  25. Put Vegemite on the Turkey skin when you roast it!

    Posted by Razor on 2005 11 24 at 04:57 AM • permalink

  26. oh & enjoy the trip timbo

    Posted by KK on 2005 11 24 at 04:58 AM • permalink

  27. Classic rock Tim? After your column in the Bulletin I would have though Country Music would have been your forte.

    Posted by cjblair on 2005 11 24 at 05:45 AM • permalink

  28. There’s no such thing as a Pontiac Zion

    Must be a Zionist plot! (hurgh hurgh hurgh)...

    This is an Aussie blog no? What’s all this Thanksgiving business anyway then? The Pilgrims landed at Botany?

    Bah Humbug I say! Whilst cute little 6 year olds dress up and go door to door in America trick-or-treating, I have obnoxious 17 year old kids turning up on my Sydney doorstep each Halloween demanding food or they’ll chuck eggs at my house and car.

    I can’t wait to see how the genuinely nice American holiday gets completely bastardised down under.

    Kirstie Alley was on Aussie TV ads yesterday flogging Jenny Craig low-fat turkeys so you “don’t miss out this Thanksgiving”... Apparently I never got the memo.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2005 11 24 at 05:53 AM • permalink

  29. Hi to Tim and James - best wishes to all on Thanksgiving, and safe trip back in due course.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 24 at 06:09 AM • permalink

  30. Back here is Oz the MSM continue to vet the stories and only talk about those they want to spin against the government.
    Suddenly, megaphone diplomacy is being advocated against those formerly nice Asians we should emulate.
    Trade should be used as a weapon when it suits us.
    They should be forced to the International Court, according to Fran this morning on Radio National. Sorry Fran, but that has to be by mutual agreement.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 24 at 06:17 AM • permalink

  31. ABC’s AM also ran with an item about Justice Kirby exhorting new Law graduates to be idealistic upholders of a proud legal tradition of support for civil liberties and all that is good and honourable and, well, not anti-left.
    Where would we be without those nice lawyers?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 24 at 06:59 AM • permalink

  32. IR Legislation is also looming large as a promotional opportunity for those lawyers and unionists who have not yet found a safe seat in the Federal Trough  Vaudeville Parliament.
    Looking back at the great dispute over the waterfront is instructive. Unions denied that their rate of work was in fact slow. Greg Combet lusted after the cameras. It was mooted that the tactics being used to break the strike were fascist and destructive. Street theatre was everywhere. What did we get? A new way of operating and greatly improved (impossible!) crane rates.
    Fast forward to the current imbroglio. Again Unions are concerned about the end of civilisation as they know it. Greg Combet is sincerely, seriously, sermonising before the cameras. Concerned (useful) churchmen are being mobilised. Workers have gathered in surprisingly varied numbers (state by state) at street theatre meetings to “be informed”.
    Nobody is being told by the unions, the ALP, the greens or the democrats, much less the MSM enclaves, that the work we do must be profitable first and comfortable second. That is the way of the world and we are not immune to it, or excused from the forces that govern business. We cannot be isolationist in the mainstream of our economy. If you do not like it, go and live in a rural commune and become self sufficient in lentils, while eschewing the frivolities of modernity and consumerism.
    Or vote accordingly at the next election. Just three years apart, not long.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 24 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  33. Pontiac Zion?  There is no - oh, I see where you must have gotten confused - you must be driving one of the new Pontiac Neocons.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2005 11 24 at 07:58 AM • permalink

  34. Happy Thanksgiving to all you wonderful RWDB americans.
    When you are gobbling down that delicious turkey think of all the nutjobs at PETA that will be chowing down on their Tofurkey Loaf. I’d rather eat a plastic turkey.

    Posted by Hank Reardon on 2005 11 24 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  35. Tim what i bemoan is you are missing some classic ABC green propaganda material. Tonight i kid you not they told us oil was going to effectively run out in 3-5 years!!! holy smoke thats got to be the best kept secret hence biggest conspiracy theory in history and all brought to you by a 20 something blonde model look alike paid big bucks by the long suffering tax payer. Catalyst another ptogramme debased by ABCSPEAK

    Posted by Astonished on 2005 11 24 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  36. Thanks for the tip about the online poll KK (#24).
    Suitable RWDB oafish and infantile response posted.

    And to all our seppo mates, have fun scoffing down your turkeys and fixin’s.

    I’m having a Chiko roll and a VB in solidarity.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2005 11 24 at 08:31 AM • permalink

  37. Astonished, my brother rung me all concered about that catalyst story.  I asked him if the chap doing the scaremongering was a geologist or an economist.  Apparently he was a rock bandit.  Clever chaps, but do not know beans about the laws of demand and supply. 

    I say bring it on! We are due for another round of creative destruction.  That’s how new markets, new opportunities are made (in the case of oil, that includes alternatives as well as potential new sources of oil, including those currently uneconomic at current prices). 

    What’s ABC’s problem, I thought oil was bad?

    Posted by entropy on 2005 11 24 at 08:32 AM • permalink

  38. #31 Another lawyer…
    Catalyst -last week bagged as a pop,pseudo science,dumbed down programme,seizing every opportunity for an angle,a tilt etc.(by the Australian.)
    SBS news tonight with the black widow,trails a spectrum of misery as usual.“PRO WESTERN Georgia(ex USSR)has been criticized for Torture Tactics not being completely stopped after Scheverdnaze’s Russian Communist regime.
    The Catholic Church has been criticized by the Gay Lobby for being unchristian and
    banning Gay Priests.”
    Treasurer Costello gets a stern reprimand,being denounced for “a RECORD BUDGET SURPLUS.”
    Then for a change of tactics we get positive discrimination from the BBC.
    “TURKEY is hosting Pablo Picasso (an exhibition).Is it possible for culture to build BRIDGES” gushes the presenter,“this is a small but important demonstration of the EURO CONNECTION.It’s a COUP that TURKEY has pulled it off.
    Picasso’s grandson is less enthusiastic “the POLITICAL aspect is secondary..“i but on rushes our presenter ” it sends messages that CULTURALLY Turkey is AT EASE with EUROPE-it’s a MILESTONE,MODERNISM BESIDE THE MINARETS…”

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 09:03 AM • permalink

  39. I don’t blame Tim for driving from NYC to Minnesota.  I like driving, through small towns and villages.  If you notice carefully, you will note that the architecture of houses change as you go west.  Even within the same state, houses can be more or less ornate, more or less functional, etc. 

    If Tim drove through Ohio, he would see many beautiful houses that were built in the latter part of the 19th century and the early part of the 20th.  The homes, with latticework, curves, and towers are callled Victorian, most likely after that great state in Australia.  Possibly, the bitter. 

    It’s unfortunate that Tim missed the turning of the leaves.  They were absolutely gorgeous this year.  Yellows, oranges, reds, nature donning its finest apparel.

    Minneapolis is a very nice city.  Clean, functional, it has a very dynamic downtown area.  I used to visit the city when I dated a very nice gal there in the 1970’s.  She was an assistant producer of a 6 o’clock news show and she had a one room apartment.  It didn’t work out unfortunately.  She moved from a small town and I told her to give it up and become my full time cook and bed partner.  She wanted to give it a try on a career, thinking she might just make it after all.  Idealistic fool.  So I dropped her and starting banging the blonde landlady instead.  That didn’t last long though.  She talked too much.

    I do wonder whatever happened to Mary?  I miss those great gams.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 24 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  40. meamwhile back at Red Kezza’s7.30, Clark and Doyle resorting to slapstick to try and save a limp little skit about Bomber.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 09:08 AM • permalink

  41. Wistful Wronwright?

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 09:11 AM • permalink

  42. Blair knows Lileks?

    This is like Petticoat Junction-Green Acres-Andy Griffith, where everybody knew everybody else on prime-time TV.

    Posted by Rittenhouse on 2005 11 24 at 09:12 AM • permalink

  43. ... or, more sinister, like when you find out how interwoven MSM and the federal bureaucracy are, what with Alan Greenspan married to Maureen Dowd, and Lynne Cheney duck-hunting with William Rehnquist’s ghost.

    Posted by Rittenhouse on 2005 11 24 at 09:15 AM • permalink

  44. Words or expressions wronwright does not know the meaning of or didn’t but does now:

    (#1 thru #10,260 omitted for space)

    #10,261 = ute = a pick up truck that can be very tasty when roasted on a barbie

    #10,262 = esky = a cooooooooooooler

    #10,263 = jeraboam

    #10,264 = seppo mates

    #10,265 = Chiko roll

    #10,266 = compassionate conservative

    #10,267 = Stoop Davy Dave in a sober state

    #10,268 = Richard McEnroe being nice and helpful

    #10,269 = Michael Lonie respecting other people’s possessions and leaving them alone

    #10,270 = Hamish Alcorn having the good sense of not delivering a pizza to Tim Blair’s house


    I suspect most of you Aussies are making up words to confuse the Americans that come here.  I think that’s a very mean XXXX induced thing to do.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 24 at 09:28 AM • permalink

  45. Tim and James,

    Mister Duhbya McChimpy Torture Pants* dropped something by the house for y’all.


    *Sortelli’s entry wins, in my book.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 11 24 at 09:45 AM • permalink

  46. Re: the radio
    Ronnie was trying to tell you to head for Florida, like he would have done.

    Posted by Donnah on 2005 11 24 at 09:54 AM • permalink

  47. O/T Angelina Jolie,representing the U.N. has arrived in Pakistan trailing Brad Pitt after her.
    A relative by marriage of Princess Mary-Brendan Johncock has pleaded not guilty to the rape of a 16 year old in Tasmania.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  48. Hey astonished,did ya notice how many kilometres the Catapult film crew accompanied by blonde bimbo -travelled.Presumably by aircraft to the remote location and then there was the chopper….Wron how much moolah did they slip you for the whirlybird huh?
    Lord Rove TRUSTED you with them choppers.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 24 at 11:09 AM • permalink

  49. It’s probably the Pontiac Vibe, all 126hp and five-doors.  The rental agency was being nice and providing extra room for the sheep.

    Posted by Pat Patterson on 2005 11 24 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  50. Judging by Tim’s mood, he hasn’t opened any of those JPEG’s somebody sent him of wronwright trashing his house.


    Photoshop is your friend…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 11:41 AM • permalink

  51. Cube-shaped? Zion? Less power than a Democratic floor vote?

    I know Tim thinks he’s in a Pontiac, but could he be driving a Scion?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 11:45 AM • permalink

  52. The Pontiacs of the Elders of Scion?

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 11 24 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  53. Zion? Scion? One of these things? They look like the dorky taxicabs from Total Recall.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 11 24 at 01:07 PM • permalink

  54. Tim, you want to take care around them jeroboams.  Think of all the trouble Richard Gere got in…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 01:08 PM • permalink

  55. Must add wine to that turkey idea. - Posted by Tim B. on 11/24/2005 at 04:50 PM

    I brought the Oz wine. And it’s ALL GONE. - Posted by Tim B. on 11/24 at 06:52 PM

    Gone in two hours flat. Damn those thirsty turkeys.

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 11 24 at 03:12 PM • permalink

  56. #25

    use vegemite as turkey stuffing…...mmmmm

    Posted by vinny on 2005 11 24 at 03:43 PM • permalink

  57. True Thanksgiving story:

    I was in London in 1984 for Turkey Day and went to a restaurant with other Yanks for a promised “traditional” meal. It sucked but down the pub afterwards, we saw Angus Young of AC/DC. We raised our pints in salute and he toasted us back.

    It made our holiday.

    I’m thankful for Tim, James, and our Armed Forces. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

    Posted by JDB on 2005 11 24 at 04:02 PM • permalink

  58. I brought the Oz wine. And it’s ALL GONE. - Posted by Tim B. on 11/24 at 06:52 PM

    I always figgered Gnat could hold her grape.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 04:25 PM • permalink

  59. Happy Thanksgiving Tim and James! Hope you don’t hit any more snow driving out of Minnesota.

    Posted by Dr Alice on 2005 11 24 at 04:59 PM • permalink

  60. Turkey?  piffle.  It’s a sunny 75 here.  This is barbecue weather.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 11 24 at 05:14 PM • permalink

  61. And Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. We all of us have a whole bunch to be thankful for.
    Amen.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 11 24 at 06:31 PM • permalink

  62. There is a Pontiac Sien.

    Posted by Melanie on 2005 11 24 at 06:41 PM • permalink

  63. I think four mentions of a plastic turkey on this thread will quite suffice.

    A plastered turkey, however, is whole other barbie of shrimp, a ‘roo in a different cozzie. (Does that sound Ozzy enough?)

    Posted by ForNow on 2005 11 24 at 06:53 PM • permalink

  64. #35, 37 - obviously the hippies at Catalyst haven’t read Bjorn Lomborg’s the sceptical environmentalist. Page 124 has some lovely stats and graphs but quasi-religious types have never taken much heed of facts.

    I’m thinking of offering them a $10,000 bet that oil doesn’t run out within 5 years. Do you reckon any of them would be stupid enough to take it?

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 11 24 at 08:03 PM • permalink

  65. Not being an American, I’m not entirely clear on the history behind this festival, but any excuse to drink and eat sounds good to me.

    Thanky Happsgiving to y’all.

    Posted by TimT on 2005 11 24 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  66. #44 Wronwright
    How was I to know that barrel belonged to you?  I figured it was Tim’s and we were at his place to party, weren’t we?  There wasn’t any label on it giving a name.  There were some funny-looking wedge shaped marks but I figured they were just the advertizing logo or something.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 24 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  67. Hey Tim,
    Be really thankful - Liz Jackson is leaving Media Blotch
    The Age - Liz Leaves
    But who goes in next, that is the question.

    Posted by SezaGeoff on 2005 11 24 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  68. This has been a Scionist plot from the very start hasn’t it?

    First they took the XXXX. And then they barbequed A Ute. And now it’s the turn of the Pontiacs!

    We’re on to you.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 24 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  69. Pontiac Zion?  Heck, You really are asking for it to be car-b-qued…

    Posted by Barrie on 2005 11 24 at 08:25 PM • permalink

  70. Well what other model of car would a member of the great International Neocon Conspiracy drive?

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 24 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  71. “It has been really good to do a job where the bus driver or the service station attendant says thanks for what you do. It’s about the public desire to have a program that holds the media to account.”
    Bus drivers and service station attendants are paying close attention to Media Watch?
    We thought the audience must be mainly the communards and fellow travellers, but this is a very literal turn up for the books. Your diary entries please, Liz. This assertion needs to be held to account.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 24 at 08:34 PM • permalink

  72. #24- I’ve added my contribution to badgering Barnacle:-
    Take a stand, you luddite fuckstick, and resign from the conservatives and join the greens- they’re more in tune with your infantile and idiotic beliefs. You’re an embarrassment to all Queenslanders- Pat Field did more good in the senate than you’re ever likely to.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 11 24 at 08:42 PM • permalink

  73. Given La Jackson’s obscene salary (courtesy of taxpayers), I would very much doubt that she is on chatting terms with bus drivers

    Bring on the next object of derision.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2005 11 24 at 08:48 PM • permalink

  74. #72 onya habib

    Posted by KK on 2005 11 24 at 09:42 PM • permalink

  75. Happy American Holiday Thanksgiving, all!  I’ve just spent the day with my mother in law, and the less said about that the better.

    Tsk, Tim.  Can’t drive in a little snow?  Better fly the rest of the way, then, or else head south.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 24 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  76. Update: Tim B. has left Minneapolis, well fed and full of pie. (That sounds derogatory - crikey, that idiot’s full of pie -  but is not intended as such.) Our brief and mostly fictional account will be posted in podcast form at my site on Friday.

    The previous evening was spent staying up talking until 2 Liter O’Clock; a grand time. Now it’s LA’s turn.

    Posted by Lileks on 2005 11 24 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  77. #65 TimT
    A short history of Thanksgiving, for your enlightenment.

    When our forefathers first arrived in the New World, they soon realized that in a few hundred years their descendents would need a holiday about six weeks before Christmas. The purpose of this holiday was to signal the beginning of an insane, weeks long buying spree by the commoners, that would culminate at Christmas. You see, up here December is the middle of winter, and the economy would stagnate during this time if it didn’t receive a good boost, in the form of wild consumerism.

    So, Thanksgiving is a day set aside to pig out, then rest up for the next day (also a holiday, called Black Friday) when American capitalism gets it’s annual booster shot.

    Eat & buy…it’s what we do best!!

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 24 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  78. TimT — Cuz we scammed the Injuns and now we feast!  Certainly, nothing else has ever happed in the subsequent 400 odd years in our country or our own lives that we have any business feeling thankful for.

    Because we’re eeeeeevil Americans!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  79. Rinardman —— close your italics tag!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 10:53 PM • permalink

  80. Didja?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 10:59 PM • permalink

  81. COOL!  Looks like we can </i>really<i> waste the format tags!!!!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 11 24 at 11:00 PM • permalink

  82. Sorry again. Durn internet thingy.

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 24 at 11:15 PM • permalink

  83. Formatting glitch fixed. Preview is your friend!

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 24 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  84. Rinardman: I took away your previous two comments that were your fix attempts.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 24 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  85. PS: it wasn’t rinardman who screwed up the formatting but someone else from the Great White North who had tried to outdrink an Australian visitor. Fortunately I got home in time, and due to a sinus headache and the subsequent large amounts of Tylenol I’ve been taking I have had no wine!

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 24 at 11:18 PM • permalink

  86. Mr. Lileks — But why did you point him north?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  87. Oh, thanks Andrea.

    richard had me contemplating suicide for my supposed transgression.

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 24 at 11:26 PM • permalink

  88. Andrea — Didn’t you explain the “pin it on wronwright” option to Lileks?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 24 at 11:28 PM • permalink

  89. Yon Thanksgiving adventure reminds me of that grand tale of stalwart Yankee settlers of yore, Drums Along The Mo’ Plonk

    Drive safely Tim, stay on the proper side of the road.  To offset the Gimme Three Steps
    repeats here’s a little traveling music from Tom Waits:

    jack was sittin poker faced with bullets backed with bitches
    neal hunched at the wheel puttin everyone in stitches
    braggin bout this nurse he screwed while drivin through nebraska
    and when she came she honked the horn and neal just barely missed a
    truck and then he asked her if she’d like to come like that to californy
    see a red head in a uniform will always get you horny
    with her hairnet and those white shoes and a name tag and a hat
    she drove like andy granatelli and knew how to fix a flat
    and jack was almost at the bottom of his md 2020 neal was yellin
    out the window tryin to buy some bennies from a lincoln
    full of mexicans whose left rear tire blowed and the sonsobitches
    prit near almost ran us off the road

    well the nurse had spilled the manoshevitz all up and down her dress
    then she lit the map on fire neal just had to guess
    should we try and find a bootleg route or a fillin station open
    the nurse was dumpin out her purse lookin for an envelope and
    jack was out of cigarettes we crossed the yellow line
    the gas pumps looked like tombstones from here
    felt lonelier than a parking lot when the last car pulls away
    and the moonlight dressed the double breasted foothills
    in the mirror weaving outa negligee and a black brassiere
    the mercury was runnin hot and almost out of gas
    just then florence nightingale dropped her drawers and
    stuck her fat ass half way out of the window with a
    wilson pickett tune
    and shouted get a load of this and gave the finger to the moon

    countin one eyed jacks and whistling dixie in the car
    neal was doin least a hundred when we saw a fallin star
    florence wished that neal would hold her stead of chewin
    his cigar jack was noddin out and dreamin he was in a bar
    with charlie parker on the bandstand not a worry in the world
    and a glass of beer in one hand and his arm around a girl
    and neal was singin to the nurse
    underneath a harlem moon
    and somehow you could just tell we’d be in california soon

    Open up that golden gate, California here I come!

    Posted by Carl H on 2005 11 24 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  90. Fortunately I got home in time, and due to a sinus headache and the subsequent large amounts of Tylenol I’ve been taking I have had no wine!

    No Wine?  Fortunately?  Does not compute!

    Posted by Old Grouch on 2005 11 24 at 11:43 PM • permalink

  91. I was under the impression I had closed my italics tag. Preview did not reveal my transgression. Apologies.

    Posted by Lileks on 2005 11 25 at 12:03 AM • permalink

  92. rinardman — You need never consider suicide when Rove’s minions are at hand…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 25 at 12:40 AM • permalink

  93. Thanks, Richard and Rinardman. Edumacation is good for mah brain’s!

    Posted by TimT on 2005 11 25 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  94. So now we’re into wishing each other a “happy thanksgiving’, whatever the fuck that is!  And just a while ago I had little pests at the door saying “trick or treat” or some such.. Apparently it has to with something called “Halloween”.  Does the fact that we are loyal allies etc etc really mean that we have to adopt all their silly bloody festivals?

    Posted by ozpat on 2005 11 25 at 01:25 AM • permalink

  95. I appreciate the concept of Thanksgiving but leave me out of the Halloween visits - kids have more than enough sweets these days, and it has gone a bit far. Let ‘em have a party if they want to dress up.
    The puzzling bit about Halloween is how it developed into such a spookfest in a nominally christian country - dabbling in the occult is a no-no.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 25 at 01:45 AM • permalink

  96. jackson may be gone from media watch but it wont improve until that cretin mcevoy leaves as well

    Posted by Astonished on 2005 11 25 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  97. Carl H

    well the nurse had spilled the manoshevitz all up and down her dress

    Love the Tom Wait piece but just have to know….what the hell is manoshevitz…a drink?

    Posted by KevGillett on 2005 11 25 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  98. Lighten up, ozpat, you gave us Paul Hogan, we gave you Halloween.  Thanksgiving’s just a bonus.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2005 11 25 at 01:55 AM • permalink

  99. Whoda thunkit?  For the first time in my life I have given thanks tonight to my friends from OZ (Tim, Andrea, and regular posters).  We have the turkey, the dressing, the mashed potatoes, the green beans, the corn, the rolls, the giblet gravy, the great Aussie wine.  I want to thank you all for making my world more interesting than it would be otherwise.  I am grateful for listening in on you all and laughing when wronwright or john mcenroe, or nora gives a quip.  I am leaving too many out and have had too much Shiraz, but know that you are appreciated, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING to one and all.  I am grateful for you companionshiop.

    Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2005 11 25 at 01:56 AM • permalink

  100. KevG, Manoshevitz is a Kosher wine.  It’s also very inexpensive so is popular among the, er… fiscally challenged connoiseurs.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2005 11 25 at 01:57 AM • permalink

  101. Steve — Well, it’s no Yago…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 25 at 01:58 AM • permalink

  102. Kathy, Andrea’s not from Oz, but Florida, which is even more bizarre and inexplicable.  I’ve been Down Under, and it’s okay so long as you do not attempt to engage the locals in conversation.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2005 11 25 at 02:00 AM • permalink

  103. Does the fact that we are loyal allies etc etc really mean that we have to adopt all their silly bloody festivals?

    Why yes…yes it does.

    You will soon be one of us.

    Resistance, is indeed futile.

    The puzzling bit about Halloween is how it developed into such a spookfest in a nominally christian country - dabbling in the occult is a no-no.

    I thought this particular spookfest, was a fairly Euro one, brought to the states from there.

    Oz is as much a product of Europe as the U.S. is.

    Is it true that Aussie kids dont trick or treat?

    Just wondering.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 11 25 at 02:01 AM • permalink

  104. Andrea — Didn’t you explain the “pin it on wronwright” option to Lileks?

    What?  I happen to know that Lileks is a most trustworthy person, or, at least as trustworthy as a Dakotan transplanted to Minnesota can be.  (Admittedly not much).

    I don’t trust that jasper though.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 25 at 02:06 AM • permalink

  105. ozpat — I blow shit up on Guy Fawkes’ ... does that help?

    And hey, I mentioned the Lady Juliana and the Hoors Who Saved Australia last night…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 25 at 02:09 AM • permalink

  106. #103 yes it’s true - any of the little bastards come round here, i’ll set the dog on them

    Posted by KK on 2005 11 25 at 02:09 AM • permalink

  107. #105 lucky lucky lucky - the nanny state has banned the citizens of victoria from blowing up stuff & having bonfires - you have to smuggle in fireworks & let em off far away from the coppers, or let em quickly & run away fast

    Posted by KK on 2005 11 25 at 02:12 AM • permalink

  108. # 106

    Thank you for clearing that up for me.

    Run away little ones!!!

    It just aint worth it.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 11 25 at 02:15 AM • permalink

  109. Steve, # 102.  Why not engage these scary, intelligent, whatchyamacallits in conversation?  I can see, after reading their postings, that they are snarky and interesting.  Andrea is from FLORIDA?  Damn.  Regardless, I do know how to spell “companionship” and am grateful for YOUR friendship.  :)

    Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2005 11 25 at 02:23 AM • permalink

  110. 228, Dan

    Actually, in my “youth,” we chucked eggs and otherwise played the “tricks” part on people who failed to answer their doors on Halloween. That is why it’s tricks or treats. Or trickertreat. It’s only in the past 20 years or so that kids stopped doing that. Now they just hack into your computer and destroy your life’s work or take pictures of you in flagrante with a hooker and show them to your wife.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 02:27 AM • permalink

  111. I think Thomas is right.  Most of the American holiday’s are transplanted from or have connections to Europe.

    New Years Eve & New Years Day = well, that’s the same among all nations that use the Jan thru Dec calendar.

    Valentine’s Day = named after St. Valentine, possibly a Pom starter of Hallmark greeting card company

    St. Patricks Day = that has to come from Ireland; I like this holiday, I only need to do one thing, wear green; unfortunately I usually forget

    Easter = universal among Christians

    Memorial Day = I think most European countries have a holiday to pay homage to our fallen soldiers, we picked the last Monday in May because it’s nice weather for a barbie

    July 4th =  that’s entirely American, unless the British celebrate it too?

    Labor Day = I’d bet every European country has one of those, to keep the Union members happy

    Columbus Day = that’s probably celebrated just by the Americans, maybe other Western Hemisphere nations, possibly by the Italians too

    Halloween = I believe that came from England

    Thanksgiving = I know Canada has one, but on a different day (they always have to do it a bit different than the nation down south)

    Christmas = that’s a universal holiday by most Christians; interestingly, I saw a blurp in the National Geographic that said it’s also becoming popular with the Japanese, who would have thought?

    There’s also Martin Luther King Day, Flag Day, Armistice Day, Veterans Day, but I’m too lazy to type those.  Actually, that’s a lot of work for me on Thanksgiving night.  But Karl Rove called and told me to do it.  So that’s that.

    I think that’s a bit insensitive.  But he did have a nice holiday conversation with the Mrs. and even my mother-in-law.  Since the latter is rather evil, they seem to hit off well.  They’re also ragging on me about why didn’t I invite Karl for Thanksgiving Dinner.  I think Karl was expecting an invite too.  Well too bad.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 25 at 02:30 AM • permalink

  112. I think the car Tim is thinking of is the Zoin. The Pontiac Zoin. It’s not selling well, for some reason. No one can put their finger on it.

    They were also going to go with a revamp of the Firebird. They were going to call it the Firebrid. They cancelled before any orders were sent out. Someone said there was something wrong with that one as well, but no one could figure what it was.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 02:35 AM • permalink

  113. #94 Ozpat:  Hell no, you don’t need to adopt our party excuses! Yes, we are the “bestest” allies, but shit, that doesn’t mean you have to put on your witch costume on October 31st.  We respect you more than that, friend. 

    I would point out, however, the positives of our Thanksgiving:
    1. No cards
    2. No presents, only presence.
    3. Eat as much as is humanly possible.
    4. Be nice to each other.
    5. Be polite to otherwise nutty reltives.
    6. And again, eat.

    It doesn’t suck!

    Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2005 11 25 at 02:42 AM • permalink

  114. Columbus Day = that’s probably celebrated just by the Americans, maybe other Western Hemisphere nations, possibly by the Italians too

    I think Columbus Day has been officialy banned in the U.S.

    Something about one power over-taking another and how that just isnt right and all.

    We really shouldnt be discussing this though.

    People may be monitoring our exchange.

    eh hemm…Columbus was a prick!

    Oh yeah, you heard me right…one bad man that Christopher guy.

    Yep.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 11 25 at 02:47 AM • permalink

  115. You forgot that you are expected to watch sports on TV, Kathy.

    Posted by MikeTheLibrarian on 2005 11 25 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  116. Mike #115,

    I cook (except the dressing—that is HIS), the hubbie whatches sports and gives me the quarterly updates.  It works.

    Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2005 11 25 at 02:50 AM • permalink

  117. wronwright

    I think Columbus Day is celebrated most religiously by the American Indian tribes. They are very excited about Columbus Day which they mark by burning huge effigies of the loveable Genoan while simultaneously sacrificing an Italian, usually one who has been trapped, legally, in New York, Utah, or Southeast Arizona. If they cannot actually trap one themselves, they can be purchased frozen from various Internet sources. They are flash frozen and shipped via Federal Express in time for the “Big Day.” Each family is give a small piece of the Italian which they put on their barbecues next to the bubbling jackrabbit livers and smoked mule testicles.

    I imagine the custom could be imported into Australia where the aborigines could chase down a Pom and eat him. If a Pom isn’t available, a Dutchman will do.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 02:54 AM • permalink

  118. The last time some kids knocked on my door dressed as witches and asking for treats I gave them all a piece of fruit each. Here’s an apple for you and a banana for you and would you like the orange or the pear?

    That was 1997. The little bludgers have never been back.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 25 at 03:03 AM • permalink

  119. It’s no wonder muslims hate you Americanos!
    You’ve got this thanksgiving thingy with the eating and drinking with your family and being happy, and they’ve got ramadan.

    Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 11 25 at 04:04 AM • permalink

  120. Looks like I missed the boot on this one, so Happy Post-Thanksgiving for our septic pals.
    :)

    I raise my vidka in salute.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 11 25 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  121. Kathy, the problem with engaging Aussies in conversation is, the more information they try to impart, the less you will receive.  Do not be fooled by their typing - as Twain remarked about foreigners, they spell better than they pronounce.

    I once thought I had a good handle on cricket, having spent an afternoon in Singapore watching a game - er, match.  A while later, I made the mistake of asking an Aussie to explain the game.  When he was finished, so was I.  I knew less than when we started, not only about cricket, but about everything.

    You’d be better off asking a Floridan about cricket.  Care to give it a try, Andrea?

    Incidentally, by cricket I mean the game, not the insect.  Insect type crickets in Oz are probably toxic.  Hell, I think sheep in Oz are poisonous.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2005 11 25 at 05:26 AM • permalink

  122. The crickets are safe. And most of the sheep are fine. Unless of course you accidentally get between a mother sheep and her lamb.

    Then she will tear your throat out eat your tongue and lips and ask questions later.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 25 at 06:47 AM • permalink

  123. Then there’s New Zealand, where, they say, men are men and sheep are nervous.
    (sorry, old joke about NZ cheps.)

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 25 at 07:05 AM • permalink

  124. Kathy it’s nice to know you and thanks for your salutations…

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 25 at 07:34 AM • permalink

  125. o/t ABC at noon radio Prof James Viscatori?,an expert on terrorism at Oxford Uni was interviewed.
    He said that Australian Terror Laws may NOT be STRONG enough,especially against “home grown terrorists.”

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 25 at 07:39 AM • permalink

  126. O.t sbs discovers the clitoral orgasm via mechanical means and the g spot…Bingo -almost as guaranteed an audience as the soccer…

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 25 at 10:25 AM • permalink

  127. As noted, Manishewitz is a ‘poplarly priced’ and potent kosher wine.  During the ‘50s, retail wine selection over here was pretty limited (Thanks again for all the plonk, OZ!  Shiraz nice of yez.)  Of course, Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassidy weren’t too picky about their drink of choice while On The Road

    http://www.manischewitzwine.com/

    Posted by Carl H on 2005 11 25 at 10:59 AM • permalink

  128. Another interesting wine site

    http://www.bumwine.com/

    Not that I’d know anything about it, of course.  I seldom have EXPENSIVE WINE with lunch.

    Posted by Carl H on 2005 11 25 at 11:12 AM • permalink

  129. Oh no!

    Open tag noted

    Posted by Carl H on 2005 11 25 at 11:16 AM • permalink

  130. Fixed. Guys, watch the tags. Whatever the Expression Engine people did to the software, this upgrade no longer seems to guard against broken tags on comments.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 25 at 11:28 AM • permalink

  131. The funniest foreign response to a Halloween request, ever.

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 11 25 at 12:35 PM • permalink

  132. Labor Day came about, I think, because we Americans wanted to celebrate work by taking a day off, and celebrating May Day would have made the Communists happy too.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 11 25 at 01:31 PM • permalink

  133. Bah!  Labor Day was an expression of contempt by the Robber Barons of the Military-Industrial Complex, who showed their scorn for the workers by getting them drunk and killing them in large numbers on the highways!

    OK, that’s that last time I fall asleep reading A People’s History of the United States...

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 25 at 01:35 PM • permalink

  134. I’m disappointed that no one mentioned December 19, National Flashlight Day.  Oh sure, all the elite holidays get food and drink, but do the red-headed stepchildren of holidays get a mention?  Nooooo.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 25 at 02:34 PM • permalink

  135. Oops, my bad.  National Flashlight Day is December 21.  The Flashlight Fairy won’t leave any batteries in my stocking this year!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 25 at 02:36 PM • permalink

  136. That would be, um, Torch Day for you Aussies and Brits.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 25 at 02:37 PM • permalink

  137. So now we’re into wishing each other a “happy thanksgiving’, whatever the fuck that is! ... Does the fact that we are loyal allies etc etc really mean that we have to adopt all their silly bloody festivals?

    Dude - you eat shitloads of turkey, mashed potatoes, corn, cranberry sauce, pork pie, stuffing, etc etc, followed by pie, pie, and some pie with pie on top. Then you unbutton your pants, stretch out on a recliner, and fall asleep to a football game.

    As a male entering his Official Middle-Aged Crabby Bastard stage of life, I can honestly say that it’s the only holiday that isn’t a goddamn pain in the ass. In fact, it’s glorious. You MUST adopt it.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 25 at 02:50 PM • permalink

  138. Pontiac “Zion”?  Do you need any more proof that the Jews are running everything??

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2005 11 25 at 03:05 PM • permalink

  139. Must back Dave S up on this. Thanksgiving is really a cool holiday. Yesterday I ate some of the best turkey and trimmings ever. And I got to watch Denver beat Dallas in overtime. Food and football? What could possibly go wrong with that?

    Well, this: the table was loaded with liberals who get all their info from NPR and The Daily Show. They think Jon Stewart is God. Stayed on the low-low during Bush-bashing time and then bashed “Deadwood.” That was fun ‘cause they all love it.

    Aussies may find aspects of the above paragraph impenetrable. Didn’t mean to do that.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 03:10 PM • permalink

  140. ekw, as a Broncos fan I have to agree with your assessment of the outcome of the game.

    For our Aussie friends: Thanksgiving is a Harvest Celebration Feast. I know what you’re thinking “What the hell? It’s a month before summer even starts.” Strange as it may seem the tilt of the Earth creates the seasons, and when the northern hemisphere is in Fall, the southern is in Spring. So our harvest rituals occur during your naked first day of warm weather rituals.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2005 11 25 at 04:16 PM • permalink

  141. Happy Thanksgiving Spleensvillians.

    ...Gotta love a holiday that expands the sheer mass of happy Americans on the planet by at least 10%.

    America pied, Birds died…Vegans cried.

    Uuurp!

    Posted by monkeyfan on 2005 11 25 at 04:33 PM • permalink

  142. Well, this: the table was loaded with liberals who get all their info from NPR and The Daily Show. They think Jon Stewart is God. Stayed on the low-low during Bush-bashing time ...

    They talked politics at the Thanksgiving table? Ye gods. I’m hardly a master of etiquette, but I know better than that.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 25 at 04:44 PM • permalink

  143. How’s the smartarse & hooker situation out west?

    Posted by Tony.T.Teacher on 2005 11 25 at 05:00 PM • permalink

  144. #123 Blogstrop;
    That’s curious, here in the US we have the same joke about Montana.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 25 at 05:28 PM • permalink

  145. OK, that’s that last time I fall asleep reading A People’s History of the United States…

    While I haven’t read the book, falling asleep might be safer than remaining awake and reading more of it.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 11 25 at 07:43 PM • permalink

  146. Could it have been a yellow Scion , the ones shaped like a toaster , except a toaster is more aerodynamic.

    I only asked because I seen one zip past me on I94 in Wisconsin. If I would have known, I would have given you a blast of the horn on my Peterbilt.

    Careful for all those nutcases in their 4 wheelers on Sunday mate. They know not what they do.

    Posted by Quidnunc Savant on 2005 11 25 at 08:44 PM • permalink

  147. It’s probably the Pontiac Vibe, all 126hp and five-doors.  The rental agency was being nice and providing extra room for the sheep.

    As soon as you mentioned all-wheel-drive on the Lileks podcast, I knew that’s what it had to be.  You can get a 180hp engine, but not with AWD, for some reason.  (I’d say it’s another unfathomable GM thing, except that the same applies to the Vibe’s Toyota cousin, the Matrix.)

    Now, when are you coming to Newfoundland, dagnabbit?

    Posted by Damian P. on 2005 11 25 at 08:48 PM • permalink

  148. Football!!  You mean that very strange ritual in which blokes in medieval armour and motor bike helmets bump into one another for a few seconds in between hours of ads (ie commercials, for you septics). 
    If you want the world’s GREATEST game, watch Aussie Rules - now THAT is fuckin’ FOOTBALL!!  And guess what - no impenetrable armour is worn.
    By the way, what the hell is a “dude”?  You blokes seem to call everyone that.

    Posted by ozpat on 2005 11 25 at 09:10 PM • permalink

  149. Ozpat

    I agree that the footy is one of the greatest games on earth. As a lover of American football, however, I do have to say that both these games can be enjoyed by the true football lover. When I visit my mate in Brisbane I try to do so during the AFL season so we can watch Australian Rules. Then, once a week there is a showing of an American football game. My mate loves the NFL and the AFL (not to mention League and Union). Why limit your enjoyment?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 09:15 PM • permalink

  150. Hmmm, Minnesota.  Well, fiddley-dee-dee, y’all haven’t had Thanksgiving dinner ‘til you come down South.

    Shrimp or Crawfish stuffed turkey or chickens, Turkey, Honey Ham, Oyster dressing,oysters bienville, sweet potatoes(fixed several ways),green bean casserole, cornbread dressing, pecan pie, pumpkin pie, sweet potato pie, a la mode if you so desire, divinity, etc…  Throw in a chocolate decadence or death by chocolate cake.
    I have left too much out and am famished from the endeavor…must have left-overs….

    Next trip….perhaps N.O. will have collected herself by then….

    Hope all had enough, and plenty to share…Thanks for the yuks!

    Posted by duh on 2005 11 25 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  151. I’ve heard of a potato cake, (Victoria is full of them), but I have never heard of a potato PIE!

    Sounds revolting.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2005 11 25 at 10:01 PM • permalink

  152. ekw, I have watched and tried to get into it but, quite apart from its general wierdness as a game, the fact that they seem to play only for a few furious seconds before the next round of ads comes on drives me berko.  And how many bloody players are there? - there seem to be thousands, and they are constantly running on and off after a few seconds play.
    And that crazy armour plating they wear makes them all look like aliens.
    Sorry - I’ve tried, but I just don’t get it.
    The only thing I’d say is that it is slightly more interesting than soccer (zzzzz), where they score once a year, and roll around in agony when their nail polish is smudged.

    Posted by ozpat on 2005 11 25 at 10:06 PM • permalink

  153. Sweet potato pie?! Oh, man—those are great. It’s a lot like pumpkin pie, and access to pumpkin pie is considered a valid motive for homicide in at least eight states.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 11 25 at 10:07 PM • permalink

  154. duh, we had many of the delicacies that you mentioned.  My favorite is oyster dressing and something you did not mention, scalloped oysters.  It’s made with copious amounts of cream and two half pints of oysters at $9 a crack.  It’s damn expensive but it’s damn good.

    The green bean casserole with fried onion rings topping was scrumptuous.  The sour cream and potatoes casserole was my second favorite.  (We call it Jills Potatoes because my mother-in-law’s friend, Jill, invented the recipe).  The turkey sucked but my wife blamed the oven.  Since I had scalloped oysters, I didn’t care.

    The Broncos Cowboys game was great.  The only downsides were my family’s insistence I play Trivial Pursuit (I despise the game) and my wife having bought Coors Light beer in plastic bottles.  Yech.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 25 at 10:33 PM • permalink

  155. #151

    It’s delicious, I promise you. As they say out there in God’s Country, it’s scrumptious.

    Ozpat

    I know how you feel. And you’re right, there are far too many adverts during football games. It does disturb the ‘jerky’ momentum the game possesses. I know a lot of people not raised with the game don’t like the stop and go nature of the playmaking. I guess it takes a lot of familiarity with what’s going on. There are so many things happening, even during those few seconds that the play takes. Most of the Aussies I know who watch usually have either seen some games in America, or they know some Americans and watch with them, that way they get filled in on a lot of intricacies, the strategies, the level of skill at each position, each player’s responsibility on both offense and defense, etc., which add to the pleasure of taking in a game.

    Now, add to that the slamming back of hundreds of beers and the murdering of thousands of bags of jalapeno chips while making damn sure the women keep the food and brew coming continuously. Of course it goes without saying that the females will also be cleaning up thoroughly - and unobtrusively - after us. Yes siree bob, it is on those hallowed Sunday afternoons in fall and winter that the American male comes into his true, natural, God-given power and dominance over the weaker sex!

    Um…not that I’m worried at all because I’m not, but…could someone just tiptoe over and shut the door? Shhhhhhhh shhhh…keep it down, willya? Don’t want to wake the wi, erm, the baby.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 11:05 PM • permalink

  156. Sweet potato pie with chopped pecan topping.  Or walnuts, if you’re not a purist.
    And a dab of whipped cream.

    Yumyum

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 25 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  157. RebeccaH

    We had green beans with sweetened pecans, basically pecans sugared and lightly roasted. They were fantastic. I’m gonna make some fresh cranberry sauce tomorrow and I’m putting a bit of fresh tangerine in. Oh, and before I forget, Rebecca, on Sunday I’m having some mates in so I’d appreciated it if you’d just keep the beer and chips coming and not try and start up any conversations or communications of any kind except with me. The halter top, short shorts, and heels are fine, just no yapping. You may watch the small black and white set in the bedroom whenever we don’t need you to fetch something for us. We’re not completely ungenerous: You may call Ck if you need any help. But no long chats, OK? You might not hear me yell for more beer. Thanks, The M’ngm’nt.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 25 at 11:58 PM • permalink

  158. #151 - They’re not real potatoes, Pedro, they’re yams—which are sickeningly sweet mushy orange abominations that are frequently mashed up and concealed under a layer of half-melted marshmallows to lure in the unwary.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 11 26 at 12:41 AM • permalink

  159. Ozpat — You could try Arena Football.  Much faster paced.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  160. Tim, you still in MPLS? I’m back from vacation, call me on my cell # if you’re headed back toward Chicago and have time for a garage tour.

    Posted by iowahawk on 2005 11 26 at 01:52 AM • permalink

  161. mmmmmmm duh STOP.It ain’t fair,it ain’t reasonable to tempt us rednecks with all them fancy fixins…WHY a body who lives on vegemite sandwiches could allow as how the South is almost as salubrious as a land DOWN UNDER. Well -the South IS down under.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 03:47 AM • permalink

  162. Does photographer Jim look a touch like a refugee from the cast of “The Shining” or have I been on the sauce for too long again?

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 03:49 AM • permalink

  163. Wron, Jills Potatoes sound great. Can I please have the recipe? I promise I won’t share it with anyone other than my 4000 closest friends on this blog.

    (I’m always on the lookout for good new recipes. I’ve got about 30 cookbooks at the moment and need people to cook for. 1 and a half just aren’t enough. Especially when one is under 5 and typically fussy. I think I need to buy more friends.)

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 11 26 at 05:54 AM • permalink

  164. George Will had one of the best criticisms of American football that I’ve ever seen:

    “It combines the two worst features of modern American life - violence, and committee meetings.”

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 26 at 10:02 AM • permalink

  165. Goerge Will is a seamhead. Which means he thinks there’s something poetic to baseball instead of just hits, pitches, and runs. And he’s jealous that football is now “America’s pasttime”.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2005 11 26 at 11:37 AM • permalink

  166. Achillea,

    You refer to yam casserole, an entirely different animal.  The other description more accurately depict that culinary delight…especially the caramelized pecan topping, mmmmmmm.  Yam casserole is, well, like institutional food, the Thanksgiving version of the fruitcake….like that unwanted gift you get and attempt to foist on other unwary holiday visitors…

    Scalloped oysters??? Sounds yummy.  Scalloped potatoes is a favorite of mine, w/o sweet potatoes of course.

    I omitted the cranberry sauce because the canned variety is like the yam casserole.  Anybody have any great cranberry relish/sauce recipes? 

    During the last upheaval, one of the many things that I lost was my library, including my 20 or so cook books along w/ handwritten, clipped, etc.. recipes…Unfortunately didn’t commit them to memory, not that I’d be able to retrieve them know anyway, but I might have some starting point to improvise something tasty.

    crash, you give yourself away, no self-respecting redneck would use the word salubrious, much less know what it meant…

    Still, there is always the banquet at Holiday Inn, Picadilly, or the Golden Corral for those culinarily-impaired souls who want a satisfying Thanksgiving repast.

    Eat ‘til you drop.  I actually ventured out to shop on Black Friday, for the first time in over a decade(maybe two)...made it to Harbor Freight!  Got their early!  It is like the Wal-mart of tools.

    Posted by duh on 2005 11 26 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  167. Sorry for my lack of editing….pardon me.

    Posted by duh on 2005 11 26 at 11:58 AM • permalink

  168. arbed,

    I’ll try to pry it from my mother-in-law.  If she refuses, I might need to go to Jill for it.  Of course, that might mean me calling every freaking Jill in the telephone book unless I can trick my mother-in-law in divulging her name.  But tricking mother-in-laws is not exactly an easy thing around here.  They’re evil and cunning beyond belief.  (Did I mention that mine absolutely loves Karl Rove?  They talk on the phone when Karl calls here and he regales her with his latest Machiavellian plans.  And she giggles like she’s back in high school.  Yech.  Oh God, please don’t let those two hook up.  They could combine their evil powers in a synergistic manner to make my life unbearable.  More than McEnroe has even.  Which is saying a lot).

    Does anyone else besides Tim have Iowahawk’s cell phone #?  I don’t.  Not that I would want to call Iowahawk (curls fingers) for any reason.  It just makes me wonder whether there is another list of telephone numbers that Karl didn’t give to me. 

    On the other hand, that would be just hunky dory with me.  I hate having to call neocons for emergencies and waking them to explain the reason.  I don’t need any more abuse. I have my mother-in-law for that.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 26 at 12:04 PM • permalink

  169. My mother-in-law helped my wife with the Thanksgiving Dinner.  Which is a very good thing indeed since my wife can’t even make garlic bread without burning it.  (It comes frozen in a wrapper, how can anyone screw that up?).  My MIL lives with me (~sigh~) since Karl recently opined that it would be nice (the words were “wronwright, I would consider it a very nice gesture on your part to invite your dear and lovely wife’s mother to reside in your rather smallish abode”—oooo, they still bring chills to my spine) for him when he comes visiting me.

    Anyway, my most evil MIL has an extensive collection of cookbooks, some with Amish recipes.  This year she made my third favorite dish, cranberry jello relish, that includes diced pecans.  It’s great.

    Karl loved it.  Yes, Karl came.  Dang if I know why.  I didn’t invite him.  I don’t even live in Minneapolis. 

    I bet MIL did.  Oh please God, don’t let Lord Rove invite the evil Battle Ax into the Neocon Cabal.  I mean there is a point in which someone is TOO evil.  That would certainly be Mrs. MIL from Hell.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 26 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  170. #157.  Hon, the image of me in a halter top, short shorts, and heels is too scary for color TV. 

    Also, were you to be sitting there expecting service of drinks and chips… well, that’s also an ugly scenario.  One you don’t want to think about.  Trust me.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 26 at 12:34 PM • permalink

  171. Can we keep Tim on the road?  This site is so much fun without the constant interruption of all those posts…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 12:46 PM • permalink

  172. But just to keep his hand in for him, here’s a little something from the Sydney Morning Herald… Australian Leaves Country, Insults Neighbors From Safe Distance

    “Having resigned as co-artistic director of the Vienna Schauspielhaus, he will move to Berlin next year and spend four months of the year in Sydney directing an eight-hour opus, based on Ovid’s poems, for the Sydney Theatre Company…
    ...”[There is a] terrible arts funding dilemma in Australia but that’s just the skin. Look at the muscle and the bone and the blood system, see what it’s actually about. It’s about fear.

    “There has to be something inherently distrustful of art in the Australian psyche for there to be such problems…”

    Like a neurotic fear of being strapped in a chair and lashed with PG-13 Roman porn for eight hours…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 01:01 PM • permalink

  173. Can we keep Tim on the road?  This site is so much fun without the constant interruption of all those posts…

    (Folds arms. Glares.)

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 26 at 01:08 PM • permalink

  174. Kosky’s home for five years was Vienna, but he yearns to escape the weight of Austria’s past as “the country that invented Hitler … the laboratory of Nazism, the laboratory of Freud and pyschoanalysis, and the laboratory of Zionism”.

    Next year he will work in six cities, but is drawn most to Berlin, “one of those cities like Tel Aviv or Sao Paulo where you feel you’re living in today, the present, like Sydney”.

    Fleeing Nazism and Zionism by traveling to… Berlin and Tel Aviv.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 02:42 PM • permalink

  175. I thought Amerikkka invented Hitler, Nazism, and Zionism.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 26 at 04:15 PM • permalink

  176. Dang.  I can’t write Amerikkka without feeling like I’m stuttering.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 26 at 04:16 PM • permalink

  177.   A Liberal Supports the Troops

    RebeccahH — It’s the M-M-M-M-Max Headroom school of political sophistication…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 04:22 PM • permalink

  178. 175. Rebecca, George Bush invented those. How could you have forgotten?

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 11 26 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  179. If you want to count the number of deaths based on political systems, you can begin with the more than a million children who have died in Iraq from U.S.-imposed sanctions and war. Or the million African American people who died from lack of access to healthcare in the US over the last 10 years.

    What I don’t understand is why the leftie liberals cannot contribute a mere 25% of their salary and wages to those people who lack access to healthcare.  Would that not take care of at least much of the problem?  Or is it that they don’t want to help brown children?

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 26 at 05:12 PM • permalink

  180. Since Professor John Daly has created a hostile learning environment for Rebecca, she is demanding that Warren Community College President William Austin institute seminars on free speech and sensitivity to teach intolerant leftists, such as Daly, to be respectful of differing opinions.

    Petard.  Hoisting.  Glorious.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 11 26 at 05:40 PM • permalink

  181. 168. How about a trade-off, wron? I’ve got a killer recipe for chocolate mud cakes - brown choc or white choc. They come with a ganache icing (chocolate and cream) which is to die for.

    I can relate to the evil MIL. I almost had one who would have given the devil a run for his money. It’s not something I’m proud of, but she is so horrible, that when I found out she had cancer, my first response was “how long has she got”, and when she recovered, my next response was “bummer about that.”

    She’s a real nasty piece of work. No wonder so many people joke about mothers-in-law.

    If Karl is good mates with your MIL then she can’t be toooooo bad.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 11 26 at 05:55 PM • permalink

  182. 177. Now that’s a piece of work.

    And this is what’s teaching the yoof of today.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 11 26 at 06:01 PM • permalink

  183. “John Daly was hired to teach English”

    Well then, judged by this sentence from his email to Rebecca, he should start with himself.

    Thanks to the students of WCCC and other poor and working class people who are recruited to fight and die for EXXON and other corporations who earning megaprofits from their imperialist plunders.

    I can’t even say he should stick to what he does best…because I don’t know what that is! :)

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 26 at 06:02 PM • permalink

  184. Rebecca

    Scratch the whole halter thing. And I really don’t don’t to have you running around like that. I have no idea who wrote that entry. Must have been Ljuba, my cat. Heh heh.

    Why don’t you just sit here, feet up, relax…would you like some nice leftovers? I have a good cranberry relish recipe which comes to me from my mother…

    And please…just ask any one of the lads to get you anything you want. He’ll be glad to run to the market or restaurant or wherever he needs to go to satisfy your wishes. ‘Kay?

    Would you rather watch ice skating?

    Oops. I guess the lads do have their limit.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 26 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  185. #172
    There is something inherently distrustful in the Australian public when it sees artists producing weird crap and then complaining about not being appreciated, or not being paid to produce more weird crap - and some might put the Kosky/Sitsky opera The Golem in that category.
    There has been another chorus of rent-seeking recently by the Australian film brigade.
    Australian films usually have good production but lousy scripts. The much-lauded film Lantana was just another let down. There have been exceptions, but then again, Proof* was quite a while ago - 1991 - before Hugo Weaving and Russell Crowe became mega famous.
    (*written and directed by Jocelyn Moorhouse)

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 26 at 07:34 PM • permalink

  186. One of my favorite Australian movies is really a rather “small” film called, The Castle. Absolutely wonderful, hilarious and tender at once. The humor is devoid of cheap-shot irony, this allows us to love the characters without judging them, and it gives the film its not inconsiderable charm. I recommend this to anyone who wants a larf and a rooting interest in the hero.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 26 at 07:43 PM • permalink

  187. McEnroe, Wronwright, Rebecca, all other Neocons, EMERGENCY!

    The moonbats are on to us.  Some blabbermouths have revealed the real role of the tinfoil helmets.  Emergency recovery plan 1309-B is indicated.  Inform Lord Rove immediately.

    On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets:

    From the Abstract:
    “Among a fringe community of paranoids, aluminum helmets serve as the protective measure of choice against invasive radio signals. We investigate the efficacy of three aluminum helmet designs on a sample group of four individuals. Using a $250,000 network analyser, we find that although on average all helmets attenuate invasive radio frequencies in either directions (either emanating from an outside source, or emanating from the cranium of the subject), certain frequencies are in fact greatly amplified. These amplified frequencies coincide with radio bands reserved for government use according to the Federal Communication Commission (FCC). Statistical evidence suggests the use of helmets may in fact enhance the government’s invasive abilities. We speculate that the government may in fact have started the helmet craze for this reason.”

    This is a matter of the utmost seriousness.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 26 at 07:44 PM • permalink

  188. ekw — It’s not the danger of the lads having their limits, it’s the danger of coming home and watching them admire Rudy Gallindo doing a triple lutz…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 07:48 PM • permalink

  189. Oh yes, via Instapundit; who else?

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 26 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  190. I liked “Gettin’ Square” (2003). David Wenham was brilliant. Also brilliant script written by criminal lawyer Chris Nyst. Not exactly highbrow but perhaps that’s the point.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 26 at 07:52 PM • permalink

  191. Achillea — Petard Go Boom.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 07:58 PM • permalink

  192. Michael Lonie — It’s time to start the meme about fiberglass (GRP to you Commonwealth types) epoxied directly to the head…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  193. #184.  That’s more like it. 

    Pity about the Tinfoil Hat Report.  I was getting ready to add a new design to the line, too.  A stylish, Stetsonesque number, with broiled meat juices sealed between the layers, to appeal to recyclers.  Ah well.  Fiberglass and epoxy have their charms too.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 26 at 08:19 PM • permalink

  194. I like The Dish (2000). Highly fictionalized and lighthearted, it’s probably the only film in history where a plot point is resolved by Wapakoneta, Ohio.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 11 26 at 08:44 PM • permalink

  195. Yeah, I saw The Dish. Good movie.

    I hear they are about to release the sequel…The Plate.

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 26 at 09:36 PM • permalink

  196. While you were gone, Tim, Brian Lara broke Alan Border’s record of 11, 714 runs.

    Posted by bongani on 2005 11 26 at 09:50 PM • permalink

  197. 194

    Same director as The Castle (Rob Sitch) which is, I think, funnier than The Dish while maintaining the same dry humor.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 26 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  198. #188

    McEnroe

    That the poof which had the implants put in his arse?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 26 at 10:07 PM • permalink

  199. ekw — Hey, I was taking a chance admitting I knew who Rudy Gallindo was.  Like hell am I answering that question.  Besides, I gave up on ragging on ice dancers when I realized I was taking the piss with people who could jump higher than my head with steel blades strapped to their feet.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 26 at 10:41 PM • permalink

  200. #172 “as Nick Cave once told him,in Australia it is a crime to be sad..”
    OH YEAH—well Bazza Kosky how come the publically funded media doesn’t get lined up against a wall and shot then-they think it is a crime to be HAPPY. They screech passionately of Doom,the sky is falling,Climate Warming,Land degraded,Western Civilization is coming to an end and a good thing too serve you (us ) right you happy go lucky hedonistic greedy pigs.And if a meteorite doesn’t finish you off then pesticide residue will or was it nucular power. Evil capitalist domestic power stations of course not crazed third world countries or anarchy stricken African hell holes or fundamental religious or marxist ideological countries—the EVIL Anglicans will take over the world don’t you worry about that.
    (inhales) and if Bazza Kosky wants to see John Howard in shackles I say keep your sick sexual fantasies to yourself hon.
    I feel soooo much happier now Bazza’s left us….

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 10:42 PM • permalink

  201. Crash

    As a hapless, dull Yank, I don’t know who Bazza is. Will I enjoy life more if I were to find out?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 26 at 10:51 PM • permalink

  202. o/t Insiders abc today was Pudding faced franny (radio nat),Mistress Sherbet AND the Bolta.
    Starred Bomber for regular 15 min slot,unmolested by criticism.
    Barrie Cassidy wistfully lusting after an election now—so that Alp could get in.Even silly Franny didn’t believe that one.The loony cartoonies designated Pauline Hanson as a cane toad (history dreaming) amd Bolta warned that we have several nasty legal penalties in Indo to ponder over as well as (sadly for me) Van in Singapore.
    Silly Fran leapt in without considering the implications “yes,that’s why we have to change penalties in other asian nations on the death penalty,” -completely missing Bolt’s message..
    Simple AUNTY Franny——-“If she ruled the world every day would be the first day of Spring”......
    The media can’t make up their minds whether we are engaging with asia, should be attacking asia, demanding that they be exactly like us(us being the Abc),ex colonially patronising asia,kow towing to asia,causing asia to lose face,losing face ourselves or what?

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 11:07 PM • permalink

  203. #201 ekw Sadly no.. an arty non event parasite with #!$# for brains who has nothing better to think about than chardonnay catastrophizing and spitting chips that most Strayans are unaware of his existence or his non talent productions.
    Hey speaking of Non Event -I was hitherto unaware of her father’s persecution by a communist regime.What an about face for her to be a star of ABC and SBS who ARE communist sympathisers if not communists outright.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 11:18 PM • permalink

  204. Dumb Kerry Nettle makes some rash statements on abc site.“Greens say renegotiate Defence deal with Singapore over death penalty.”
    Is that in their capacity as reps of an infinitesmal number of Strayan voters or as Communards who wish to isolate us from anyone or any treaty which could assist us to remain a sovereign nation,run by the popularly elected Howard Liberal Government and not Bob BOTTOM?

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 26 at 11:29 PM • permalink

  205. ekw : re #186

    I recommend this to anyone who wants a larf and a rooting interest in the hero.

    *Blush*
    Um… That probably has a different meaning to those in Oz from the one you intended. I hope. See Strine Definition of “root”.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2005 11 27 at 12:47 AM • permalink

  206. ekw — bazza is piled three deep in Manhattan…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 27 at 12:48 AM • permalink

  207. OT, the BBC was finally found to be biased after a reporter shed tears at the death of one of the world’s most notorious modern-day terrorist (I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Bu$h):

    Reporter’s tears for Arafat were ‘biased’

    I can’t believe they had to go to an appeal to determine this…

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 11 27 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  208. #205 Zoe

    Boy, is my face red!

    I forgot my strine there, didn’t I. No. The hero is not someone you’d want to root. Erm, let’s see, you would cheer him on. You want him to win. He’s a good person, though not particularly attractive?

    I do encourage people to rent The Castle. It’s really a wonderful, low-key Aussie comedy. Never ever see anything like this coming from the U.S.

    P.S. “Low-key” doesn’t have any rootish meanings, does it?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 01:35 AM • permalink

  209. Zoe, so we shouldn’t “root, root, root, for the home team” unless we follow ice dancers…?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 27 at 01:40 AM • permalink

  210. #207 Art

    After reading that I have to confess, I…hold on, damn…just a sec…I’m fine, I just…he was, he was so… fickin’ oogly..(weeps uncontrollably, has to be helped to a couch where he collapses in a paroxysm of grief, or something)

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 01:49 AM • permalink

  211. mcenroe has a point there, Zoe (I’m sure “having a point” is very iffy in Oz - oh, shite, is an “iffy” what I think it is?). How can we Americans ever again root for our home team unless the cheerleaders are willing to join us?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 01:53 AM • permalink

  212. o/t Kevan Rudd of alp in July Investigate magazine.“To be effective in the war against terrorism you need a comprehenseve,regional counterterrorism strategy…this means for example effective co ordination across all south east asian states,police co operation across all south east asian states…”
    and “against a suitcase nuclear weapon?”.
    Rudd “Look the only way Australia,a country with 20 million people and limited national security resources of our own,both military and non military,could do so is COLLABORATIVELY with the states of the region.  I mean John Howard by talking about unilateral action is ALIENATING regional states and the DIPLOMATIC SUPPORT NECESSARY TO ACTUALLY ENGENDER THE COOPERATIVE relationships which are necessary to stop terrorists on the ground.THAT’S A MINDLESS PIECE OF POLITICS AND HAIRY CHESTEDNESS.”
    Well,what does that say then of Labor and the Greens insisting on Howard FORCING SINGAPORE to back down commercially or in other unspecified ways?
    Or Indonesia over the Bali 9.!!
    Sigh and the media want to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t beat moderate firmness a la Howard in my view.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 27 at 02:07 AM • permalink

  213. Ah geez, Zoe. Now you’ve done it!

    You’ve gone and deprived future generations of Ozzies the joy of laughing like loons when they hear the US President or Hollywood stars etc describe how they are “rooting” for someone.

    Specially funny is some bimbo starlet describing how she “roots for the Dallas Cowboys” (or other beefy looking mob)

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2005 11 27 at 02:32 AM • permalink

  214. Sooooo, you’ve been laughing at us, sniggering (that word is illegal in America) at our lack of Ozoid sophistication. I’m shocked and saddened. Here I was, dumb, innocent, vulnerable American, full of admiration for Oz, love the country and the peeps, and now this: you’re laughing at me, at all of us.

    The shame of it. I’ll never live it down. NEVER! (I suppose “living it down” means taking a sh*t in the swimming pool or something equally embarrassing) Oh, well, go ahead. Laugh. And if they find my lifeless body in a dumpster in Atherton one day, you’ll know why.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 02:53 AM • permalink

  215. Another recent Australian movie I have yet to see is The Oyster Farmer, which, apparently, has at least one sex scene. I just can’t get past the idea of the plot being “oyster farmer meets bearded clam”.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 27 at 02:59 AM • permalink

  216. Speaking of bearded clams the GREENS HAVE ASKED THE U.N. TO ASSESS AUSTRALIA’S ANTI TERROR LAWS.
    THE GREENS THINK THAT OUR ANTI TERRORISM LAWS COULD BREACH THE U.N. TREATY ON HUMAN RIGHTS.
    I ask you what would the PARASITES know about humans?
    We are getting the strong impression that the GREENS care more about ANY OTHER HUMANS than Australians,wish to destroy any PROTECTION Australia may possess (and Kevan Rudd their coalition partner has already stated that we don’t have much) and it’s beginning to sink in that they mean to DESTROY Australia. Ironic when you consider that they wouldn’t get even their tiny influence anywhere else in the world.The ALP should consider their position as coalition -PARTNERS with these fifth columners (traitors) -very carefully and maybe rein them in…..hard.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 27 at 03:17 AM • permalink

  217. crash

    What I get from greens everywhere is that they value animals and trees more than humans. It’s not just Oz they hate, it’s us. They’re like the terrorists, they hate civilisation. There must be a profound psychological defect in the character of people who hate their own species.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 03:33 AM • permalink

  218. O/T Police in Birmingham U.K. have arrested 19 year old Yusuf Jama in connection with the murder of a young policewoman and the attempted murder of her colleague(both of whom were unarmed) at the scene of a robbery.Police are still searching for Mustafa Jama (brother of Yusuf) and Muzzaker Shah also thought to be involved in the crimes.source The Australian.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 27 at 03:40 AM • permalink

  219. ekw - yes, The Castle is a delightful film, and one can never tire of hearing the lines when the dad asks, at every meal, “what do ya call this, love”, not to mention the unadulterated pride he has in his proginy.  A gem of a film, and Australian to its boot-straps - unlike most of the total drivel that we are told is ‘sooo Australian’.

    As they insist in listing in film reviews these days (why, I have no idea) - “if you liked” The Castle, you really will like Gettin’ Square, as recommended by someone further up the thread.  It’s the only Aussie film I can recommend from at least the last five years. 

    (Contrary to the usual over-blown “PR”, I would not especially recommend any of the lastest - indeed, I will actively avoid some of them, for the rest of my life.)

    Posted by Ck on 2005 11 27 at 03:49 AM • permalink

  220. Ck

    Hey, where have you been?

    Anyway, yes, I gave The Castle to a woman I know down in Dallas and she loved it so much. She cried at how sweet the family was then laughed till she cried at how funny they were, too. And the way the husband just went nuts over every little thing his wife did, telling her it was bloody marvelous, maybe some frozen peas or whatever, proclaiming to the skies what a marvelous wife he had. Same with his kids. Yet none of it was that sickening treacly crap you get with so many other films. Now you got me started. I have it here, I think I’ll watch it again.

    Right after I finish watching Dead Sexy starring Shannon Tweed.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 04:15 AM • permalink

  221. ekw. I should be very careful how I used the word “rent” if I was you. As in “rent” the Castle.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 27 at 05:02 AM • permalink

  222. geoff

    Oh, Gawwwwd. I give up. (OK, what does that mean in Strine?)

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 06:18 AM • permalink

  223. ekw - wad do ya mean where have I been?  I been out the back field clearin’ away all the roughage & scubbin’ out the stewin’ pots.  What – ya thought that stuff just takes ker of itself?

    Posted by Ck on 2005 11 27 at 06:23 AM • permalink

  224. On my way home from Sea World this afternoon (great day than you!), I turned on an am radio station to find out what was happening with the severe thunderstorms SEQld was receiving.

    Low and behold, but the talkback chap happened to conduct a phone interview with none other than ‘The Editor of The Bulletin, Tim Blair live in LA!!’

    He lives!

    Did not get the whole interview, as we got home and I had to get the sleeping kids out of the car. 

    The classic was when the interviewer asked Mr Blair what he thought of his understanding that if the yanks didn’t have the 2 term rule, Clinton rather than Bush would have still been President and 9/11 would thus not have happened.  I thought Tim very politely pointing out that the plan for 9/11 was devised, and put into operation during the Clinton administration was a classic. 

    The problem with radio is that you can’t see egg on face.  But then, what do you expect of someone working on talkback radio on a Sunday afternoon?

    Posted by entropy on 2005 11 27 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  225. entropy,

    Did the interviewer mentioned the current state of Tim’s house?  I just know that Hugh Hewitt would (what a snitch!).

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 27 at 09:30 AM • permalink

  226. I thought Tim very politely pointing out that the plan for 9/11 was devised, and put into operation during the Clinton administration was a classic.

    Not to mention the comically-overlooked fact that Al Qaeda set off a bomb in the WTC basement in 1993 - during the Clinton administration - that was intended to bring the building down. In other words, 2001 was really scheduled for 1993, but failed.

    So, for those two reasons - the 1993 attempt and the pre-Bush-election planning for the 9/11 attempt - anyone who blames 9/11 on the election of Bush is either pig-ignorant or utterly mendacious.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 27 at 11:03 AM • permalink

  227. Thanks for the suggestions—I’ve put The Castle in my Netflix queue.

    I’ll probably see it some time in 2007.

    Posted by John Nowak on 2005 11 27 at 11:04 AM • permalink

  228. Actually Dave S. I prefer the word “fuckwit”.

    entropy “On my way home from Seaworld this afternoon ...”

    I’ve got a preeeety good idea I know who you are, Mr entropy me old mate.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 27 at 11:33 AM • permalink

  229. ekw — We could “pull” for the home team, but I’m pretty sure that’s even worse in the Commonwealth, so it’s a toss-up… oh, bloody hell, “toss…”

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 27 at 11:51 AM • permalink

  230. Thanks for the suggestions—I’ve put The Castle in my Netflix queue.

    I did too. The Netflix blurb essentially says “If you liked the Full Monty…”.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2005 11 27 at 11:54 AM • permalink

  231. Could somebody introduce me to Hugh Hewitt?

    I would like to know this guy, ‘specially if he’d inform me about someone trashing my place…..

    Having the misfortune, lately, of seeing what crack heads w/ grown children and grandbaby could do to a place, would kind of like someone I could count on to help me keep my investment in good repair. 

    Don’t care much anymore for gettin’ along w/ everybody, ‘specially not when they are stepping on my toes…..which is why I went and purchased steel toed boots today!  Pretty good for puttin’ one up someone’s arse, I hear.

    Posted by duh on 2005 11 27 at 02:00 PM • permalink

  232. I don’t know why Netflix insists on mismatching people’s preferences. The Full Monte, which I didn’t like near as much as others seem to have, isn’t in the same league as The Castle, nor is it in the same category. The Full Monte is full of “Hey, look at us being funny and be aware we’re not the characters, we’re way too clever for that” humor and The Castle is just organically humorous. No irony or condescension towards the characters. We don’t get the feeling the actors are kidding the camera like we do in The Full
    Monty. Much smarter film all around.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 02:56 PM • permalink

  233. “I thought Tim very politely pointing out that the plan for 9/11 was devised, and put into operation during the Clinton administration was a classic”.

    Not to mention the comically-overlooked fact that Al Qaeda set off a bomb in the WTC basement in 1993…

    Not to mention also that the Clinton administration refused to racially profile foreign applicants wishing to learn how to fly commercial airliners in a straight line. Doh !

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 11 27 at 03:23 PM • permalink

  234. Totally off topic (er… was there a topic?), but check out the computer-generated rock concert.  It’s only a matter of time until all rock concerts are computer-generated “live” so to speak.  Although, I’ve had my suspicions about the Rolling Stones for some time now.  I’m convinced Keith Richards is really dead.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 27 at 03:34 PM • permalink

  235. Some More Tim-Subbing:*

    Andrew Bolt: Australia Ruled Under Godwin’s Law


    *I don’t want to know what that means in Strine, thankee…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 27 at 03:55 PM • permalink

  236. Just listened to Lilek’s podcast featuring our Tim where he refers to James’ father being a little sheepish regarding his time spent in Australia, around the infamous Battle of Brisbane, 1942.

    For US readers this was a massive protracted brawl at Brisbane railway station between a train full of US servicemen and another full of Aussie serviceman.

    Apparently the US troops was heading north back to the Pacific theatre, after spending some R n R time in Sydney. The Aussie troops was heading south to Sydney for the very same pleasure.

    Unfortunately, a US fella yelled out to the Aussie train, ‘No point in going to down Sydney boys - we’ve just done all your women’. Red rag, bull. Many injured and some dead.

    This after US troops had already earned the disdain of Aussie troops for being cashed up and able to spoil the abundant number of Aussie girls left alone during the War. Leading the famous put-down of American troops - ‘over paid, over sexed and over here’.

    Hence the lingering hostility many Aussies had of Americans despite begruding acknowledgement the US saved our arse in WW11. That’s life.

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 11 27 at 03:58 PM • permalink

  237. However it is also true that generally the US soldiers were impressed by the welcome and the black servicemen found a different and much more accepting attitude to them here than they had at home in the USA.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 27 at 04:10 PM • permalink

  238. Barbara Plett Award ....
    Today goes to Jane Hutcheon for her interview with John Howard in Malta.
    She of the puppet-on-a-string spasmodic TV presentation had an agendum to put to Howard. In quick succession she put it to him that (1)He had not done enough about the impending hanging of the drug trafficker, (2)that he had only made additional representations to Singaporean PM due to the pressure exterted on him, (3) that he was insensitive to be attending a cricket match on Friday, and (4)he should initiate or at least participate in a minute’s silence diring that cricket match.
    This is a reporter with an axe to grind. I wonder, did she cry when Arafat died.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 27 at 04:17 PM • permalink

  239. I’m convinced Keith Richards is really dead.

    Rebecca,
    A friend of mine says Richards has been dead for years…it’s just that his body is so full of drugs that it goes on alone!

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 11 27 at 04:19 PM • permalink

  240. Undoubtably Blogstrop, with the general consensus being the US presence was positive and worthwhile.

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 11 27 at 04:23 PM • permalink

  241. #187 Michael… For more helpful data refer to ex-Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer’s statement.  It is more serious than we knew!
    http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2005/11/26/1324951-sun.html

    Posted by Franklin on 2005 11 27 at 05:05 PM • permalink

  242. “The three organizations backing Hellyer’s request for hearings are the Institute for Co-operation in Space (ICIS), the Toronto Exopolitics Symposium and the Disclosure Project, a U.S.-based organization that has assembled high-level military-intelligence witnesses of a possible ET presence.”

    I wonder, is there something about the long winters in the Great White North that drives so many Canadians mad?  Or is it something in the water?

    Well, all I can say is that I’m glad somebody is finally facing up to the real major threat to our security, namely invasion by Aliens from outer space.  No doubt this is another threat identified by the dreaded Neocons.  As usual the heavy lifting is left to the US.  Also as usual, the Canadians (and, I don’t doubt, the French too) want to preemptively surrender.

    The Neocon orbital lasers should be useful if the Aliens atack us.  No doubt Mister Karl planned it that way.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 11 27 at 05:49 PM • permalink

  243. #237.
    Yeah and we still extend a warm welcome to all you yanks. Y’all come down and visit us y’hear.
    My grandma was from Maine in the US. Jeebus she could cook.

    One of your Marines recently became a police colleague of mine downunder. He has already saved the life of one of my mates, and at the same time proved what a very excellent shot he is.

    Posted by Skip on 2005 11 27 at 06:24 PM • permalink

  244. I’m very glad to have heard about the battle of Brisbane. Sounds like a real dust-up. Now I have mates in Brisbane, and they never told me about it. When I come back down there next fall (yours), I will press them on the issue. Anyway, alls I knows is that when I am in Oz I feel good, I feel welcomed, I feel safe and secure, I feel like that is where I would go should I ever decide to leave the US (I can’t see any reason to do that, but if I ever should…). I love the pies, love the lingo, love the footy, love the wildlife and the birds especially, love the women, love the men, love the whole damn island. Alls I can say is, you blokes and sheilas are (OK, here comes an expression that almost certainly will raise some Cain down there) lucky stiffs. (ducks and runs)

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 06:49 PM • permalink

  245. ekw. We don’t mind being called lucky stiffs at all. Much rather be a lucky stiff than an unlucky one. But when the bloody hell is our fall? Ohhh you mean late summer. Autuuurm.

    Posted by geoff on 2005 11 27 at 07:10 PM • permalink

  246. Getting back On Topic:

    Classic rock FM radio fact: Gimme Three Steps was played four times today, narrowly defeating Sweet Home Alabama (3 repetitions) as the Lynyrd Skynard classic rock selection of the day.

    Ugh, Classic Rock. How many Zep Sets did you endure? How much Mandatory Metallica?

    Too bad you missed Rock-tober, huh?

    Do Classic Rock station managers do anything besides copy each other’s profoundly lame ideas, and coke?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 27 at 07:13 PM • permalink

  247. I like to play a version of “Name That Tune” with Bob Seger songs - especially “Turn the Page” and the supremely-awful-in-so-many-dimensions “Old Time Rock and Roll”. I try to see how fast I can hit the button for another station. It’s called “Kill That Shit.”

    “I can kill that shit in four notes.”

    JUST TAKE THOSE OLD…

    POW!

    “Hah! Killed that shit!”

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 27 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  248. Michael Lonie — You mean, turn the lasers around?

    You couldn’t bring that up during the design phase?

    Besides, I’m pretty sure that would violate our treaty with the reptoids…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 27 at 07:25 PM • permalink

  249. Yes. Autumn. April, May. Then…hopefully, me, Oz, we meet.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 27 at 07:51 PM • permalink

  250. Huzzah!!  Heh.

    Posted by Olrence on 2005 11 27 at 08:44 PM • permalink

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