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MARGO ON THE MOVE

Click here to behold the password-protected, Typepad-based, SMH-free future of Webdiary! No mention of this puzzling development over at Margo’s present lair.

UPDATE. It’s alive! Margo’s new site is finally launched, free of any SMH entanglements:

Recently, my understanding of the nature of Webdiary and that of Fairfax suddenly and dramatically diverged, and as a result I ended my relationship with smh.com.au.

Your loss, SMH! The new Kingston zone has it all, including a puzzling slogan (“Patron Power”), fashionable T-shirts, a revised charter, inexplicable photoshoppery, and a 20-member management team. Hooray for, er, Patron Power!

UPDATE II. Sadly, despite all those managers, MargoWorld struck problems in only the eighth comment posted, from fan Robert Lawton, which included this:

Not for publication postcript: I’ll be in Sydney in two months’ time for a few days (October 26 & 27), and will have some time up my sleeve for a change; it would be interesting to meet and perhaps find out what you may not wish to say publicly

Priceless! And Webdiarist Harry Heidelberg agrees:

Quite simply, we are priceless and what we believe in is priceless.

UPDATE III. Duelling Margos!

UPDATE IV. At last, something we can ALL agree with! Former SMH inmate Antony Loewenstein on Margo’s abandonment of his ex-employer:

Her and I have different views of the world BUT we agree on the inherent nightmare that is Fairfax.

Except we might not agree with the use here of “her” and “inherent”.

UPDATE V. Margonaut John Augustus asks:

What does Howard like? Cricket - a competition, a team game of fitness, talent, planning, tactics, surprise and perserverance with the aim of winning. (Oh it’s all about the game? Sure, ask the loser or someone who comes fourth.)

That’s kinda rare in a two-team contest.

UPDATE VI. Margo Kingston:

I didn’t know patron was a male word.

UPDATE VII. Webdiary reader Nathan Hale warned in May:

I fear Tim Blair and his neo-con lackeys will infiltrate our community and manipulate us into factional fighting over petty issues. This fate appears to haunt all great revolutionary movements.

Margo’s reply:

That’s an issue I am well aware of. Jack is responsible for dealing with it re comments editing. Our management group will manage the issue overall.

Curses! Foiled again by the mercurial management group!

UPDATE VIII. Chris Shiel misses the moment:

Even The Sydney Morning Herald’s Margo Kingston, a bete noir of many right-wingers, could never be read as a Labor apologist. On the contrary, Kingston’s support is ever conditional, with a sharp turn against Labor only a betrayed principle away.

Posted by Tim B. on 08/21/2005 at 06:47 PM
  1. These people are fragile blossoms, aren’t they?

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 08 21 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  2. After years of sneering at people in gated communities, the lefties have finally produced the gated blog.

    Posted by Amos on 2005 08 21 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  3. Is Margo’s new blog instead of webdiary or as well as webdiary?

    Posted by gubba on 2005 08 21 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  4. And if you cancel without registering, it says you have no authorization to access, and won’t let you back out.  How typical.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 08 21 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  5. Any of you more savvy folk know if it would log any user/password combos we make up and try to put in?  Because there’s room for merry making there.

    user: letmein
    password: youfacsists

    Maybe writing the crap they’d spout at others easily will shock them a bit.

    Posted by Sortelli on 2005 08 21 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  6. Someone should definitely register and then post the id & password at bugmenot.com

    I wonder if the SMH knows about this?  Isn’t WebDiary their intellectual property?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 21 at 08:27 PM • permalink

  7. These fruitcups make the North Koreans appear rational.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 21 at 08:33 PM • permalink

  8. Margo’s explanation of Webdiary:

    The idea of this space is to write something each day and for you to give me your feedback.

    Um, not exactly inspiring, is it.  That’s like your boss asking you to write your job description and you offer “the idea of this job is to show up every day and for you to pay me”.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 08 21 at 09:49 PM • permalink

  9. Hey wronwright - I’d love a job like that…

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 08 21 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  10. O/T Michael “Loony” Leunig is writing opinions for The Age (P 13, 22/8/05). He writes as well as he cartoons (and no Michael that is not a compliment).

    Posted by lingus4 on 2005 08 21 at 10:43 PM • permalink

  11. But how can we register if you can’t get to a registration page?

    Posted by Leigh on 2005 08 21 at 10:54 PM • permalink

  12. I wonder why she did this on Typepad, rather than, say, Blogger?

    It’s not like margokingston.blogspot.com was taken…

    (“Was” being the operative word in that sentence. Hehehehe…)

    Posted by david on 2005 08 21 at 11:25 PM • permalink

  13. And I wonder why the webdiary.com.au domain simply points to a blog on Typepad’s server, rather than hosting a Typepad installation itself. Whatever happened to that vaunted Tech task force group (was that Team B or Team C)? I mean, maybe creating a database-driven People’s Inquiry website was a bit of a lofty goal, but setting up a blog surely is but a day’s work for the crack Webdiary technistas?

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 21 at 11:33 PM • permalink

  14. Amos — No, it’s “after years of living in gated communities…” There’s nothing more truly frightened of nonwhites than a white lefty.  You should have seen Bel Air and Beverly Hills during the LA riots.  These people genuinely believed the Brown Masses were going to bypass the appliance outlets and liquor stores and storm straight up Stone Canyon Road…there was a solid line of Mercedes and Caddies, roofs jammed with luggage, heading for the airport.  It was like a Kuwaiti refugee column.  The ones that stayed spent the night shooting into the bushes and asking us why we didn’t have shotguns.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 21 at 11:39 PM • permalink

  15. The new Webdiary link works for me.

    Posted by Briker on 2005 08 21 at 11:47 PM • permalink

  16. They just fixed it, then.

    Posted by david on 2005 08 21 at 11:50 PM • permalink

  17. ‘“This is my Thelma and Louise moment,” Margo Kingston says and bursts into laughter.’  May she crash & burn like T&L. 

    That new site is a grabber - once you get to the home page you can’t get out again.  That’s in keeping with the general crappiness of Margo.

    Posted by KK on 2005 08 22 at 12:16 AM • permalink

  18. Of course, you know, the Ozzie press brought it on themselves.  What with Labor having to cancel functions because the press wasn’t going to show up, the Zionist-dominated media have obviously slid completely into the Nazi camp and Margo had to act decisively to safeguard the voice of the people.

    Okay, the oppressed 45% practically-a-majority of the people.

    Okay, whatever percentage of that 45% would knowingly be seen in public with someone who visits WebDiary…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 12:17 AM • permalink

  19. And once you go to the new blog you can’t go back…

    Posted by kae on 2005 08 22 at 12:19 AM • permalink

  20. er, snap KK

    wonder what the difference of opinion was and who sacked who?

    Posted by kae on 2005 08 22 at 12:19 AM • permalink

  21. Recently, my understanding of the nature of Webdiary and that of Fairfax suddenly and dramatically diverged, and as a result I ended my relationship with smh.com.au.

    Damn.  I thought I was kidding.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 12:21 AM • permalink

  22. She bin sacked!

    Posted by rog2 on 2005 08 22 at 12:32 AM • permalink

  23. I am surprised that neither Tim nor anyone else has commented on the somewhat unsettling “I have I never worked harder than in those five years . . .” statement in the linked annoucement, referring to Margo’s years at Webdiary. 

    Too much of a gimme?

    Posted by Catt on 2005 08 22 at 12:44 AM • permalink

  24. Bad luck for Margo - although she’s been freed from the shackles of Fairfax, her ideal new domain is already taken.

    Posted by Mr Hackenbacker on 2005 08 22 at 12:54 AM • permalink

  25. I’ve got to say that I support Margo on this one:

    Fairfax are cutting down on journalists at the same time as they are buying a dating agency…

    Good on her. She’s as mad as a meat axe, wouldn’t know hard work if it slapped her in the face, and has lost the plot on just about every issue she’s ever written on, but she’s about as dangerous as Phat Phil after the 8th helping of Tirimasu and ten times more interesting. Then again, she is asking for ‘heavy hitters’ to join her and there’s none heavier than Phil (hit link above and scroll down).

    Bring on the new Margo. Without the SMH editors, we should be in for a real treat…

    Posted by Hanyu on 2005 08 22 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  26. ...ten times more interesting.

    Hanyu, 10 * 0 = 0.  Always.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 22 at 01:22 AM • permalink

  27. Antony Lowenstein or however his name is spelled is angling for a job…

    BTW who is paying Margo her at least $1000 per week minimum wage if not the SMH.

    Are donations to whatever crackpot scheme she’s into this week really going that well?

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 08 22 at 01:34 AM • permalink

  28. re #10
    Leunig, who gets space daily to froth in cartoons about his hatred for Howard, now also gets a feature spraying wall to wall irrationalities (while he endorses descriptions of Howard as ‘suckhole’ and ‘war criminal’) . And Martin Flanagan gets a slab to blather pompously about how he also hates Howard for winning the election.  ( “farcical victory in the last election”—Labor would love to suffer such a ‘farce’). Gawenda rabbits on pretending to be judicious about Iraq and the only relief is Peter Costello reminding Age readers that the US is a democracy.

    Posted by percypup on 2005 08 22 at 01:55 AM • permalink

  29. to link thinking Australians whoever they are and wherever they live.

    Hey Tim where’s you link? Come to think of it, if Margo just poached all of Tim’s blog roll she’d be off to a great start.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 08 22 at 02:02 AM • permalink

  30. Poor old Loonig, desperately peddling the meme that Howard - or anyone else he doesn’t like - is a ‘silvertail’: for pete’s sake, Howard’s dad ran a petrol station.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2005 08 22 at 02:02 AM • permalink

  31. Someone tell me this is a parody.

    Holding my pen, though the ink has run dried,
    But I know these walls will speak,
    To tell to the world, all the things they try to hide,
    The words and views that should be heard.

    What have they done to my lovely country,
    Why all the trees are so still?
    The only birds that fly are those made of steel,
    They flatten my mountains and my hills.

    What have they done to all the poor children,
    Why are they all alone?
    The hunger remains and they will never learn,
    Of loving and laughter in a home.

    What have they done to my brothers and sisters,
    Why they are so tongue-tied?
    The last time I heard from them was years ago,
    Before they took away their pride.

    PLEASE tell me this is a parody ...

    Posted by TimT on 2005 08 22 at 02:16 AM • permalink

  32. Nope, that’s your basic Risperdal™ Rhyme…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 02:22 AM • permalink

  33. Fairfax’s new online dating agency sounds much more fun. Where can I join?

    Posted by mr magoo on 2005 08 22 at 02:33 AM • permalink

  34. You know, I thought that the 20-member management team line above was exaggeration.

    No, it wasn’t, there really are 20 members on the team.

    PF Journey has taken charge of the challenging task of working out how to make Webdiary financially sustainable

    I don’t think “challenging” quite covers it. Too bad insanity isn’t in high demand at the moment; Webdreary seems to have a bumper crop this season…

    Posted by david on 2005 08 22 at 02:33 AM • permalink

  35. They should have a popup warning on that site for offensive and challenging content- have a gander at the masthead photo.
    Bloody hell- just as well I was wearing welding goggles, and had a bin handy.
    They owe me a fiver for my lost kebab.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 22 at 02:54 AM • permalink

  36. OMFG!  This is a set up right?  It’s a virtual menagerie of retarded, mutated and lame creatures. 

    They’re all there - “Mad Munter” Marilyn Shepherd, Bryan “Cabron” Law, Jack “Balmain” Robertson, Robert “Energiser Bunny” Bosler, “Tinfoil” Tony Kevin…

    Posted by murph on 2005 08 22 at 03:14 AM • permalink

  37. She says she’ll be happy if she retains 25 per cent of her readers. Any bets on whether that will be achieved?

    I like Loewenstein’s comment about Fairfax’s “real agenda” making interesting reading. Did I miss something? Margo had just posted her termination of contract notice. It was supposedly her choice to break links (boom tish).

    If he means Fairfax’s wider agenda then I suppose we can wait for wonderful dissertation’s on how Fairfax is in control of the freemasons who run the world financial markets. The Synarchy Rules!

    Posted by Francis H on 2005 08 22 at 04:22 AM • permalink

  38. ” ...and yet there are some others who flourish by repeatedly publishing what proves to be wrong and never apologising.”

    Posted by: Marilyn Shepherd | Monday, August 22, 2005

    Seriously, does Marilyn understand the concept of irony?

    Posted by CB on 2005 08 22 at 04:31 AM • permalink

  39. ‘for years I (margo) took no interest in political affairs or debate..”.That must have been when she was leader of the Canbra press gallery.

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 22 at 04:52 AM • permalink

  40. Its like a little kid packing a schoolcase with playlunch and teddy and saying “I’m running away,don’t ask me to come back,you’ll miss me, you’ll be sorry.”
    Almost sad,but not.

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 22 at 05:05 AM • permalink

  41. Shiva on a pogo stick, that is a ... disturbed site. Lord, don’t they take themselves seriously?

    Says a lot when the spoof site makes more sense, is better designed, and has a clarity of purpose Margots Majestic Mess totally lacks.

    Has she been given the bullet from the SMH, or is this just the latest Kingstonian brainfart?

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2005 08 22 at 05:10 AM • permalink

  42. From what I can establish, the Margoyle determined that Fairfax had failed to live up to the terms of a mutual contract. It then initiated a breach of obligation and skedaddled with the archives.

    I wonder if Fairfax could make a case that the archives belong to them as intellectual property?

    Posted by CB on 2005 08 22 at 05:27 AM • permalink

  43. Thanks, CB. Your horde of loyal Margoyle-tracking minions looks to be on the ball.

    I just had a read through ‘Look at me I am Gorgeous’ Dave Heidelberg’s post. It was like swimming in a sea of camel sputum: unpleasant, distressingly odiferous, and an experience from which nothing of value is obtainable.

    I advise against it, on reflection.

    Where do they find these self-important dingbats, why are they so darkly turgid, and can they be sent back whence they came? Is it a demented ‘I must copy Chomsky’s prose’ meme, or what?

    I also love their policy of proactive censorship. Only sycophants and yes-men need apply in the leftist verion of free speech.

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2005 08 22 at 06:37 AM • permalink

  44. That site is pure gold, Shes sillier than she looks which is quite an achievement.

    Methinks she was getting the punt from the SMH, why would she derail the gravy train otherwise?

    Its the internets version of Jonestown over there, just waiting for the Koolaid to be delivered.

    They have also cornered the market for fuckwits, Marilyn, Bryla, Tony “countering the spin” L and the band of merry muppets all paying homage to the big Kahuna….....Margit.

    I wonder whether the Margit is going on the rock and roll to finance this habit?

    Posted by Nuffy on 2005 08 22 at 06:57 AM • permalink

  45. I wonder what psychological condition prompted them to name their blog directory “harry_version_2”, of all things.

    Recently, my understanding of the nature of Webdiary and that of Fairfax suddenly and dramatically diverged

    In other words, somebody finally told her that 50 vacation days per year and miniscule (not to mention poorly written) output the rest of the time wasn’t quite up to Fairfax’s already low standards?

    it would be interesting to meet and perhaps find out what you may not wish to say publicly

    Does it have anything to do with Zionist entities?

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 22 at 07:49 AM • permalink

  46. Slowly, the flushed detrius that is webdiary and its correspondants float off the Ben Buckler of the blogging sphere.

    I agree with Hanyu, imagine the fun and games now that she’s off the Fairfax leash. The problem is her leaving Fairfax only fuels the foolishness that there is some ‘conspiracy’. Good to see however how their ‘people’s movement’ has been so successful, snicker. Come and see the violence inherent in the system, I’m being oppressed…........

    Posted by Nic on 2005 08 22 at 08:57 AM • permalink

  47. UPDATE III: Dueling Margos!

    Why does this make me think of the theme from Deliverance?

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 22 at 09:01 AM • permalink

  48. Hey Tim, how come you didn’t rattle Looneytunes’ cage after the manure he smeared over the Fairfax pages today?  It smelt even worse than the regular Hundehaufen.
    And, he even managed to squeeze in a Howard the dreaded “control freak”!

    Posted by pick-your-pun on 2005 08 22 at 09:02 AM • permalink

  49. Margo is relying on her income as a supermodel to keep things afloat.
    She’s currently under contract from Roger Corman, who’s hoping to make some bucks on a zombie comeback.
    She personifies the Australian Left- a creature who refuses to realise it’s time is up, and is determined to take as many young, fresh brains with her.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 22 at 09:26 AM • permalink

  50. Brains that actually fall victim to the Margoyle cult probably weren’t that fresh to begin with.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 22 at 09:29 AM • permalink

  51. re: update V…Actually, lots of the Webdiary folks do sound like they manage to come in fourth in two-person contests fairly regularly.

    Question: Can you fit 20 people on a short bus?

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 22 at 10:00 AM • permalink

  52. Choice excerpts I’ve come across:

    Harry Heidelberg: Last month we celebrated our 5th Anniversary, and this month, the most signficant milestone in our history, the move to Futureworld.  Futurewold is just a generic term I use for the move to independence.

    Err, no, Harry. “Independence” is a generic term. “Futureworld” is something you made up especially for the occasion, and thus as far from a generic term as one can get. But then, confused language usage is probably what I should’ve come to expect from Webdiary by now.

    On the same note…

    Commenter Richard Jones: Hi Margo. This is an exciting new time. Why Patron Power (pater = father in Latin)? Does Matron Power seem too matronly? Or is that too patronising? Maybe Puella Power. Or Patrina Power even better.

    Margo: I didn’t know patron was a male word? Can we metamorphose it to mean all of us who visist here?

    Words fail.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 22 at 10:26 AM • permalink

  53. Habib—Not Corman.  Troma.

    But don’t laugh, folks.  Once Chrenkoff stops posting (Dammit) a bunch of his proto-WebDiarists are likely to find their way over here by osmosis.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  54. Although I must give Margo full marks… at 20 managers and no visible workers, she is approaching the management saturation point deemed optimal by the Los Angeles Unified School District.  Hell, she’s practically invented her own government agency.  She just doesn’t get taxpayer money for it yet —

    — Oh, hell.  Warn the grants people!  Warn the grants people! She’ll be headed their way!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 10:37 AM • permalink

  55. Too bad; it appears when Margo or one of her friends actually achieves something like linear thought, they still won’t have the ability to coherently express it. But, I’m sure that, like one of Jane Austen’s characters, their profound insights flow so terribly rapidly that the actual expressions of them unfortunately convey no ideas at all.

    Posted by Levans on 2005 08 22 at 10:49 AM • permalink

  56. Memo to Margo.  A recent people movement, called a federal election, put Howard into office. Again.  Why does the left continue to kid itself that there is some great groundswell of anti Howard sentiment.  Maybe they need to travel left of the Leichardt Line and join the rest of us who don’t live in Balmain.

    Posted by platey mates on 2005 08 22 at 11:00 AM • permalink

  57. Re: Patron Power

    Margo: I didn’t know patron was a male word? Can we metamorphose it to mean all of us who visist here?

    Hmmm…Metamorphosed Matron Mower, maybe?

    Posted by bovious on 2005 08 22 at 11:35 AM • permalink

  58. WebDiary, what’s that? I’ve got a toothache and was looking for WebDentist.

    Posted by Abu Qa'Qa on 2005 08 22 at 11:54 AM • permalink

  59. So at what point do these guys get over themselves and actually start posting something worthwhile to read?

    And what happened to youredemocrazy.net.au?

    Posted by david on 2005 08 22 at 11:59 AM • permalink

  60. Look closely at those who patronise you. Half are unfeeling, half untaught.

    One must ask children and birds how cherries and strawberries taste.


    Wha…..??

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 08 22 at 12:03 PM • permalink

  61. Thanks, RebeccaH, I got stupider just reading that.

    Posted by david on 2005 08 22 at 12:08 PM • permalink

  62. I am a Tim Blair Neo-Con Lackey and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.  Except, no t-shirt.

    Posted by Andrew on 2005 08 22 at 12:08 PM • permalink

  63. I fear Tim Blair and his neo-con lackeys will infiltrate our community and manipulate us into factional fighting over petty issues.

    Sounds like troll behavior.  Nathan Hale (is that is his real name?) seems to be projecting.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 22 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  64. intellectual property

    *snicker*

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 08 22 at 01:26 PM • permalink

  65. How about the t-shirt pic with that model who looks like WA Attorney General and health minister Jim McGinty? For starters, the t-shirt design would have to be the most amateurish effort going around. And the headline “Coming Soon, John” - I’m sure JH is in the Lodge right now with two heavily armed guards posted at his bedroom door. Johnny’s cowering in bed with his knees knocking at the thought that he might clap eyes on some ne’er-do-well Webdiary reader wearing an indecipherable t-shirt…or not. Honestly. Margo is a classic narcissist. She truly thinks important people actually take her silly site seriously.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2005 08 22 at 02:11 PM • permalink

  66. Margo Kingston, a bete noir? Is that french for “laughing-stock?”

    Posted by bovious on 2005 08 22 at 03:52 PM • permalink

  67. Who has to infiltrate… they’ll be all over each other like leninites and trotskyites at the drop of a tie-dyed bandana: “No! You’re not progressive enough! Class traitor!”

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  68. From Marc MacDonald’s entry...

    Margo has ... constructed, maybe without conscious thought, a new form of democratic class-less communication and a new forum for education…

    without conscious thought... yep, that pretty much describes it.. :)

    Posted by pyreal on 2005 08 22 at 08:47 PM • permalink

  69. #63- they’re not as efficient as the Stassi at rounding up infiltrators- I whooped it up at Webdiary for about three weeks before one of her minions bothered to run me through Google, and discover that I was merely there to mock (and hopefully provoke Marilyn Shepherd into a seizure- I went very close, but it’s no real effort. All you have to do is question whether anyone claiming to be a refugee actually IS a refuge).

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 22 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  70. #68 Oh great, next they’ll say Margo invented the Internet - Oh wait, that was Al Gore’s delusion.

    What is in the water at leftyville?

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 08 22 at 09:26 PM • permalink

  71. pyreal — She did a pretty good job on the lack of class, too…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 22 at 10:40 PM • permalink

  72. Crikey needs to study the Tim Blair style harder - note this today (tues)
    ————————————————————————————————————————

    14. SMH editor stakes: a new candidate emerges


    Hugo Kelly reports:

    Now that Margo Kingston has left the Herald to build her Web Diary as an independent media voice, we can safely rule her out of the running for the vacant SMH editor’s post. OK, that was always a long shot, despite the wacky conspiracy theorists on Tim Blair’s blog throwing her up as a contender.

    As Fairfax continues its “international search” for an editor to replace Robert Whitehead, news reaches us that Sunday Age editor Alan Oakley has emerged as a contender.

    The former Sunday Telegraph and Herald Sun editor has a fan in Fairfax editor-in-chief of metropolitan newspapers Mark Scott. This is what Scott said of Oakley when he appointed him Sunday Age editor two years ago: “Alan Oakley is an outstanding editor who brings with him significant experience in a number of important editorial roles both in Melbourne and Sydney. Alan will be responsible for overseeing the future development and growth of The Sunday Age as Victoria’s quality Sunday newspaper.”

    Sure, it’s the usual PR pap, but with Scott as acting Herald editor taking a key role in the selection process, word is that Oakley is a live contender, sitting on the front row of the grid with The Australian’s European correspondent, Peter Wilson, Lis Sterel, the current managing editor of news at the SMH, and Herald executive editor Tom Burton.

    Then there’s Scott himself, who has not been ruled out of the running and has the inside advantage of warming the seat while the search continues.

    Posted by percypup on 2005 08 22 at 11:38 PM • permalink

  73. Thrilled was I to see that independence has been achieved, that true believers now have a true spiritual home to be, to feel, to gibber.
    But disturbed was I to note that in a management team of thousands Maniacal Marilyn appears to have been left outside the tent and hence distinctly capable of pissing in.
    My bet is the first scuffle comes from that quarter.

    Posted by Harold on 2005 08 23 at 12:15 AM • permalink

  74. Holy crap… it didn’t take them long to screw that up.

    I made the mistake of posting an email address to the smh site once or twice.. now I’m getting idiots bouncing messages to each other   about problems with the new site. Seems the Margoyle took her mailing list with her (that doesn’t sound very legal to me.. should be property of Fairfax).

      duncan

    Posted by duncanm on 2005 08 23 at 01:32 AM • permalink

  75. update.. to above.

    I’ve just sent a complaint to both the new Margarataville and her previous employer.. I await with baited breath.

    Posted by duncanm on 2005 08 23 at 01:40 AM • permalink

  76. Duncanm—better yet, the new WebDiary is apparently spreading a virus to its subscribers…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 23 at 01:54 AM • permalink

  77. How on earth did she get a job as a writer when she is so hopelessly unable to command the english language?

    I, too, am ‘underwelmed’.

    Every time I see that creeping apostrophe of possession when a plural is used I wonder..

    Welcome mate’s! welcome mate’s what?

    debate with her reader’s in Webdiary her reader’s what?

    Should be called Webdiarrhoea. Yeah, Margo’s and her Managers’ crap.

    Posted by kae on 2005 08 23 at 02:01 AM • permalink

  78. Over the last few hours I’ve received a bunch of spam e-mails from the new Webdiary - their server has gone nuts. Hilarious! Margok should take this as an omen and give up now.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2005 08 23 at 02:03 AM • permalink

  79. um, kae - that’s the spoof site you’re quoting from.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2005 08 23 at 02:08 AM • permalink

  80. #70. What is in the water at leftyville?

    Mate, it’s not the water they’re on, it’s the hydro’.

    Plus can confirm Webdiary has graduated to spam production, sending out random emails…

    Posted by JAFA on 2005 08 23 at 02:28 AM • permalink

  81. There’s always been something about Tim, but I never quite could put my finger on it. Now, thanks to Ms. Kingston, I know what it is: he’s a zionist neo-con shrimpy duck supporting bandwidth user.

    I do believe that’s the first picture I’ve seen of Dame Margo (whom I know only by reputation). May I say, bow wow. (meow)

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2005 08 23 at 02:39 AM • permalink

  82. I thought I was getting moonbat fanmail; they’re all a little confused by the whole idea of a mailing list, aren’t they? No wonder they hate technology- if they were chiselling out messages on stone tablets, they’d either swallow them believing the message to be an econo-E, or drop them on each other’s pointy heads.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 23 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  83. I fear Tim Blair and his neo-con lackeys will infiltrate our community and manipulate us into factional fighting over petty issues. This fate appears to haunt all great revolutionary movements.

    I’m speechless, I am without speech.

    THAT IS THE MOST HILARIOUS THING I’VE EVER READ!

    Posted by murph on 2005 08 23 at 02:57 AM • permalink

  84. I think they are BOTH spoof websites! What do you call self-parody when the self-parody-er is blissfully unaware that they are, in fact, performing a self parody?

    This is like using a flipping nuke against fish in a barrel…

    (cracks open a beer, pulls the chips closer, settle in to chair to watch the fun and fireworks)

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2005 08 23 at 03:52 AM • permalink

  85. MarkL - you have a point. I am agog at the ridiculousness of the new Webdiary, and how seriously these peabrains take themselves. Case in point, check out PF Journey’s “opening statement” in the form of an utterly hideous poem.

    This *has* to be a pisstake, surely.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2005 08 23 at 03:57 AM • permalink

  86. Essentially if the pharmaceutical manufacturers got hold of their mailing list, that’s pretty powerful targeted marketing for psychotropics.

    Posted by captain on 2005 08 23 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  87. Whyn’t the Sheila mention his pig?

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 23 at 09:13 AM • permalink

  88. ‘At least you’ll now formally replace Tim Blair as Australia’s leading independent blogger, now that he’s well and truly on the Packer teat.

    Go well, Stephen Mayne

    Thanks Stephen. All the downsides of leaving FF - loss of income, press gallery pass, smh readership pulling power, prominence on google, blah, blah .... were tangible. The upsides were all intangibles, including freedom, of course, and the ability to be fully accountable to readers.

    Lucky Tim. Stephen Mayne has you picked as a ‘sell-out’. Speaking of sell-outs Mayne, when do you eventually get that million dollar check?
    In refernce to Magro’s comment,does this mean by inference that Magro wasn’t beholden to readers previously? No wonder Fairfax fucked her off. You know the drill.Free the minds, eat the brains.

    Posted by CB on 2005 08 23 at 10:22 AM • permalink

  89. Things evidently aren’t all sweetness and light in the former soviet republic of Margostan…  A reply to a fawning piece about her over on Indymedia, presumably the same crikey piece referred to above..:


    Yeah, ‘public *market*’ is right
    by michael 11:53pm Tue Aug 23 ‘05comment#57877

    Kingston and her ‘brother’, Hamish Alcorn, didn’t depart Fairfax empty handed. First they helped themselves to the database of email addresses that were used to confirm the identities of those who posted to Webdiary and abused it to make up a mailing list.

    As a result of that data theft, Alcorn’s cocking up of the mailing list and the stupidity of many Webdiary contributors in using ‘Reply All’ to respond to emails from the list, everyone who has ever contributed to the SMH Webdiary site have received upwards of sixty spam emails in the past 24 hours - many with attached viruses, courtesy of the sort of computer illiterates who don’t know how to use a mailing list or how to keep their hard disks clean.

    Margo may have ditched the corporate media, but she is apparently not averse to using the unethical tactics of the corporate PR industry in nicking data from her former employer and harvesting it for her own promotional purposes - regardless of the fact that those who revealed their email addresses thought they were doing so purely to verify their identities.

    The incompetence of her assistants has now ensured that the theft will not go unnoticed and I wouldn’t be too surprised if she ends up on the rough end of a legal action from Fairfax over it. At the very least, she has kicked off her new site by generating a fair amount of bad feeling among former contributors who don’t enjoy cleaning stacks of virus infected emails from their inbox.

    Nice one, Margo.

    Posted by ausdiplomad on 2005 08 23 at 10:37 AM • permalink

  90. At the very least, she has kicked off her new site by generating a fair amount of bad feeling among former contributors who don’t enjoy cleaning stacks of virus infected emails from their inbox.

    Well, the true Webdiary folks will enjoy it. For one, because Margo can do no wrong in their eyes. And for another, hey, they’re lefties - they’ll probably think they deserved it.

    I do hope that lawsuit from Fairfax materializes…Margo the common thief, tsk tsk.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 23 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  91. ausdiplomad & PW - if Margok was sued, it would be, in the words of the Webdiarists’ great hero Paul Keationg - the sweetest victory of all.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2005 08 23 at 01:01 PM • permalink

  92. Or consider the spamming (intentional or not) coming out of Margoland.  Plus the computer illiteracy apparently rampant within her ranks of loyal followers.  There’s nothing like unwanted, virus infected e-mail filling someone’s in box to turn affection and generosity into hostility and withdrawal.

    Of course, Margo does have that management team of, what?, 20 people?  I’m sure that they will solve this problem lickety split.  <supresses snicker, rolls eyes>

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 23 at 02:21 PM • permalink

  93. Oh, come on. Don’t let your ignorance show so much in public, guys. The definition of patron is as follows:

    pa·tron   Audio pronunciation of “patron” ( P )  Pronunciation Key (ptrn)
    n.
      1. One that supports, protects, or champions someone or something, such as an institution, event, or cause; a sponsor or benefactor: a patron of the arts.
      2. A customer, especially a regular customer.
      3. (also pä-trn) The owner or manager of an establishment, especially a restaurant or an inn of France or Spain.
      4.
          1. A noble or wealthy person in ancient Rome who granted favor and protection to someone in exchange for certain services.
          2. A slave owner in ancient Rome who freed a slave without relinquishing all legal claim to him.
      5. One who possesses the right to grant an ecclesiastical benefice to a member of the clergy.
      6. A patron saint.

    Posted by Briker on 2005 08 23 at 04:13 PM • permalink

  94. We were talking about etymology (as was the guy Margo was responding to), not modern meaning. Not that it matters, since even in modern times, any meaning except #2 is generally limited to male people.

    And what’s with the odd numbering? You didn’t by chance edit out any meanings that contradicted your silly nitpicking?

    Stunning debut there, Briker. Hope your input on this blog improves, because this was nuthin’.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 23 at 06:05 PM • permalink

  95. Briker?

    Posted by Harold on 2005 08 23 at 06:08 PM • permalink

  96. My sincnere apologies for the cut n’paste confusion, PW, the 1 & 2 following 4 are meant to be a) & b).

    Yes, Harold?

    Posted by Briker on 2005 08 23 at 06:13 PM • permalink

  97. Sadly I missed out on those spam emails as I had about 20 false addresses when I ‘contributed’ to Margostan. However if any of those here were affected and feel suitably inclined, she has definitely breached the Privacy Act as has Fairfax for collecting personal information for one purpose and using it for another. The Privacy Commissioner would be bound to investigate.

    It would be nice to see a strategic wedge between those two and see the vitriol emerge with accusation and counter-accusation. Could be great sport for years to come.

    Posted by captain on 2005 08 23 at 06:20 PM • permalink

  98. #79

    Thanks James - you confirmed what I already thought of yesterday: I WAS having a baaaaaad day!

    Posted by kae on 2005 08 23 at 06:31 PM • permalink

  99. Briker,

    And your point is?

    Posted by murph on 2005 08 23 at 06:33 PM • permalink

  100. How about this you ignorant lefty fuckwit?

    patron
    “a lord-master, a protector,” c.1300, from O.Fr. patrun (12c.), from M.L. patronus “patron saint, bestower of a benefice, lord, master, model, pattern,” from L. patronus “defender, protector, advocate,” from pater (gen. patris) “father.” Meaning “one who advances the cause” (of an artist, institution, etc.), usually by the person’s wealth and power, is attested from 1377; “commonly a wretch who supports with insolence, and is paid with flattery” [Johnson]. Commercial sense of “regular customer” first recorded 1605.

    Posted by murph on 2005 08 23 at 06:44 PM • permalink

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