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Now we have a local angle:
An eighth suspect connected to a plot to blow up car bombs in London and Scotland has been arrested in Brisbane, police have confirmed.
Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has confirmed a man has been arrested at Brisbane airport in relation to the UK bomb plots.
The 27-year-old Brisbane man was arrested at the airport at 11pm yesterday.
A search warrant has been issued for further investigation in Brisbane.
UPDATE II. It’s apparently another disenfranchised doctor:
A 27-year-old Queensland doctor was arrested at Brisbane Airport last night in connection with Britain’s foiled car bomb terror plot, authorities have confirmed.
UPDATE III. Medico mania:
An Iraqi physician and a Palestinian doctor working at British hospitals were identified Monday among those held in the failed car bomb attacks on London and Glasgow ...
British media reported at least five of the eight people now in custody were doctors, but police would confirm only the two physicians whose names were released.
UPDATE IV. The guy is a Gold Coast hospital registrar:
Attorney-General Philip Ruddock confirmed his employment at the Gold Coast Hospital at Southport and said a search warrant had been executed at the premises ...
The Brisbane resident - who is not an Australian citizen - was arrested at the airport at 11pm last night. He had been attempting to leave the country on a one-way ticket. He has not been charged.
UPDATE V. The Independent reports:
A suspected secret cell of foreign militants, believed to be linked to al-Qa’ida and using British hospitals as cover, are being questioned over the terrorist attacks in London and Glasgow …
Until now, cases of Islamist terrorism have involved mainly Muslims who were born and brought up in Britain. The alleged arrival of teams from abroad to carry out attacks, their identities unknown to the domestic law agencies, adds another dimension to the terrorist threat being faced in the United Kingdom.
UPDATE VI. What’s with all these doctors?
A second doctor is being questioned after the arrest overnight at Brisbane’s international airport of a registrar at the Gold Coast Hospital in Southport over suspected links to the bomb plots in London and Scotland.
UPDATE VII. Emails seized:
Search warrants were executed across southeast Queensland today, including at the hospital, but no charges have been laid.
Queensland Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said no explosive material had been found.
But it is understood emails have been seized.
and the named suspect is a surgeon called Mohammed - unusual name for a presby.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 02 at 07:38 PM • permalinkFrom the Age:
Asha’s father Jameel said his son was a good Muslim who had never shown any interest in political Islam.
“He prayed like any Muslim but was not a fanatic,” he said in Jordan, where Mohammed was raised, having been born in Saudi Arabia.
Here’s the sickness that lies within Islam that needs to be confronted, a doctor, an otherwise non-fanatical adherent to the faith packs a car with explosives to kill infidels. There is something seriously, seriously wrong with these people.
#1 Yeah Paco. It failed so we say “amateurs” but it was pretty close. Had that drunk at the club not fallen over and hit his head, calling the ambulance, who spotted the smoke who called the fire brigade who called the police....
One thing that Britain has going for it though is years of experience of IRA bombs and everyone automatically spots suspicious packages.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 02 at 07:51 PM • permalinkA “No-Fly” list has recently been introduced in Canada and the usual cohorts of bien-pensants demand its withdrawal as it would discrimate against innocent people.
I suspect the no-fly list will have a very small list of names.
Mohammad
Achmed
FaroukPosted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 02 at 07:53 PM • permalinkThere was a time when the five doctors was just the name of a deluxe episode of Doctor Who.
#6
For a while I was on a no fly list. I suspect it was one of two reason:
1. I have a very common name (at least if you are an Italian or of the Italian diaspora). So there might have been someone with a similar name who was on a watch list.
2. When my parents were ill I bought a lot of last minute one way airline tickets. I have a feeling that set something off.
So what did I do? I got to the airport 20 minutes earlier each time and checked most of my stuff. In fact, at times the extra concern got me through security faster, as I was able to bypass the general line and go to the “special” line.
#5 That is a good point, WC. Down here the left gob on that it is all a load of annoying stuff dreamed up by hoWARd. The nearest was Bali, but the punters are well on the way to forgetting that. I suspect much the same applies in the Peaceable Kingdom of the North, now ruled by the unspeakably vile westy Harper.
Cheers
RodCI know some of the successful applicants for refugee status while I was at the detention centre based their claims on being members of the Muslim brotherhood organisation.
They were “fleeing” because they had stirred too much shit in their own countries. Nice to think they were allowed to stay BECAUSE they were members of a terrorist organisation???Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 02 at 08:05 PM • permalinkIf they keep digging, they’ll find links to the Ft. Dix Six, and the idiot fuel jet firebug wannabes, and all the other so-called “amateurs” that have been caught in the last few years. And once they link all of them, they can start digging for the masterminds. Maybe then the left will shut up about “unrelated incidents” and “disaffected loners” and all that other crap they use like binkeys to reassure themselves nothing’s wrong.
‘The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we’re not actually fighting it properly. We’re not actually standing up to these people and saying, “It’s not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn’t justified."’
Tony Blair
Oh dear, it seems this doctor worked at the Gold Coast Hospital.
The Gold Coast Hospital is our city’s largest. In fact Nicky and I can see it from our office.
My question is, since it would seem the doctor is a potential jihadi, has he doing his bit of infidel slaying on his patients?
-- Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 02 at 08:19 PM • permalink#15 Then there are those huge queues at the Queensland theme parks...Have you seen the cost of hamburgers at Sea World?
Fixing people/killing ‘em - it’s one of those fine distinctions.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 02 at 08:22 PM • permalinkSigh. This is harshing my mellow, man. Not the bombing, but the kid-gloved-lets-dick-around-til-someone-actually-gets-hurt. Cuts right through the goddam happy pills. I feel like taking my baby seal club, doing a thorough search of the local town, and practicing my form on the owners of each car that has one of those disgusting little “Coexist” bumper stickers with the different religious symbols.
Ok, taking more pills. But Jeebus, it makes me mad enough to punch a baby.
My take with so many of those arrested being Doctors is this:
What is one of the most annoying sub groups of people who piss the rest of us off ?
(In Sydney they are clustered around the leafier hourbourside and North Shore Suburbs)Thats right. Doctors wives!!
They annoy the rest of us but fancy being married to one and having to listen to their drivel after you’ve got home from a tough 36 holes of golf ?
It might just about enough to drive you to opt for the 72 (presumably silent) virgins or blow someone up ...Fair point, Wacko. If this is explained to the judge, they should get their sentences commuted significantly.
I must say, the Gold Coast is an excellent place to live for those who are disgusted by western decadence and want to check it out for themself. An added bonus is that some of the theme parks have muslim prayer rooms and halal dolphin burgers.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 02 at 08:37 PM • permalinkBlabbermouths on Perth radio are “shocked”, “stunned” or “amazed” that doctors are involved. One actually said “...it’s no longer just the disenfranchised and disaffected...”.
If they practised some real journalism, even occasionally, instead of mindlessly parroting what comes out of the BBC and CNN, they’d know that it never was. Fools!
#33 And yahoo - the Gold Coast City Council has just established a visitor’s centre in Surfers Paradise for UAE tourists.
I do have to say it’s mighty strange to see in the shopping centres, the blokes in normal western gear and their wives in black niqabs.
It’s like a convention of grim reapers.
-- Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 02 at 08:45 PM • permalinkThis certainly isn’t the most efficient use of resources- foreign trained doctors can usually bump off shitloads of infidels through incompetence and poor skills while on the job, why waste their talents on a one-off action, where their incendiary abilities are even more shithouse than their diagnostic endevours and innapropriate treatments?
mmm I’m in Nora’s boat and can see the Gold Coast Hospital from my office. I wonder if Nora works in my office? lol.
We have booked a holiday to New Zealand - we figure it is so accomodating that no-one would want to knock it off. then again, I do hear the kiwi route is used to get to Australia by a lot of middle east people, so you never know.
Yes, private health insurance is all paid up and if ever the ambos need to take us anywhere, we know where NOT to go.
Doctors huh? Seems pretty clueless the way this was put together - figures!
#35,
When I was last at the GC over a year ago it looked like the Emirates. I’d say that every second tourist was from the Gulf States, with many burqha clad ladies amongst them. Apart from an obvious love of sand, WTF are all these travellers doing in the GC of all places en masse?
Can’t wait to see the new ‘improved’ meter maids to entice our desert brothers/ sarcasm.
I can understand the use of doctors by the terrorists. They would go to the front of the queue to become “legal” immigrants or get visas using their professional credentials.
(P.S. Congratulations to aussie magpie for her hat-tip at LGF.)
Posted by andycanuck on 2007 07 02 at 08:57 PM • permalink#35 Nora: Yeah. Why is that? Here (Perth) you see increasingly larger numbers of fully garbed women, but rarely are the men in any other than western clothes. And they don’t ensure that their pants length stops above the ankle either, as required by mo, either. Too bloody vain to observe that particular edict. Nice that the men can pick and choose, isn’t it.
Attorney-General Philip Ruddock confirmed his employment at the Gold Coast Hospital at Southport and said a search warrant had been executed at the premises ...
This is so wrong. It should have read thusly…
Attorney-General Philip Ruddock confirmed his employment at the Gold Coast hospital as registrar at Southport
and said a search warrantand had been executed at the premises ...#42
yeah funny that too SandiM.
I was saying to Nick the other day we occasionally see older Indian women wearing more traditional gear - the trousers, smock and head scarf - in town.
And yet, it’s different to the women who wear a hijab or niqab.
The Indian outfits are usually beautifully coloured and decorated and, obviously the Islamic gear is dour.
Does it make sense to any one else that I find the traditional Indian costume more ‘inclusive’ than traditional Islamic dress even though they’re covering just about the same amount of skin?
-- Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 02 at 09:16 PM • permalinkLet’s not forget about the root causes- poverty, hopelessness, discrimination, racism, islamophobia, and probably not get laid much either.
Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 07 02 at 09:22 PM • permalinkTerroristes Sans Frontieres do such amazing work. And they are the last of the medicos to believe in bulk
billingkilling.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 09:27 PM • permalinkUpdate:
Doctors at Gold Coast Hospital, confirmed the unidentified man, as DOA after the 10 second gurney ride from the former registrar’s office to the ER.
DecapitationAn Autopsy, will be performed tomorrow to determine, cause of death, Sources within the hospital did indicate that 14 head wounds from a S&W .40 cal, COULD be the likely cause.The body and head will be airlifted to home of origin, encased in glass and formaldehyde and parachuted from 36,000 feet, for burial.
That is if the drop doesn’t accomplish said burial task.
I was fairly sure that the Glasgow Fiasco was a bagpipe related grievance. This latest Brisbane misunderstanding makes me think that it could possibly have its root cause in a flight path issue. Think about it - Doctors work long hours and need their sleep.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 09:37 PM • permalink#40
New improved meter maids? Check this fucktard out.You mean y’all don’t have attorneys for the deceased family members looking over the medical records with a microscope looking for a reason to file a lawsuit against the doc?
Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 02 at 09:39 PM • permalink#59 awww, leave poor Capper alone Kae, I feel rather sorry for him.
By all accounts he’s a nice guy - just not that bright.
-- Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 02 at 09:39 PM • permalink#52 Which was just code for Tom Baker being to drunk to act in that episode.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 02 at 09:41 PM • permalinkBroadbeach is full of Gulf Arabs, has been for yonks; ironically it is also home to a casino the size of half the Vegas strip.
Southport Base Hospital would be the ideal camoflage for a homicidal MD- they’ve freed up more beds there over the years than Jayant Patel with a chainsaw and a flask of ebola virus.
I’d need to be really fucked up before I’d let an ambo drop me off there, Allamanda and Pindara are bad enough but they have less drunks, pillheads, newly qualified dropkicks and bleached idiots daydreaming about how it’s pumping at Duranabah while they’re carrying out some vital procedure.
Still, plotting to blow bimbos to bits makes a change from going the fiddle.
BTW- surely an attempt to pepper alocohically enhanced loose women with shrapnel is the clearest assault on our way of life thus far? If the bastards attack a footy match, a V8 Supercar round or a Group A race then there’s going to be no holding back.
Maybe then the left will shut up about “unrelated incidents” and “disaffected loners” and all that other crap they use like binkeys to reassure themselves nothing’s wrong.
Sorry, Rebecca, but most of the leftards will continue to chant their multicultural mantra right until their throats are slit. They’re that far gone.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 02 at 09:45 PM • permalinkWatch for the calls of “racist Australians”, “Islam haters”, “religious bigots”, “HoWARd paranoia”, “Ruddock vilifies innocents” etc. from the usual suspects.
People in the West have a right to be concerned. As #50, kae, points out, there are vipers in our midst. Who would suspect a doctor, for example?
Don’t know much about Indian names but it would seem that Bundaberg’s Dr Death is not a Presbyterian.
Then there is that famous Queenslander, KRudd. [url=http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=273964]
According to Tom Burns[/url], Kruddy’s first polictical nic was Dr Death. Kevni claims he is not a Presbyterian, but you really can’t be sure of anything in Queensland these days.A few months back, I was arriving at Perth Airport and as I lined up for immigration, I noticed a large presumably woman in a full black hijab sitting sprawled on the ground surrounded by 4 federal cops (probably the full airport complement for that time of night).
She wasn’t on our flight and had presumably been there for some time. Probably waiting for an interpreter or some such PC nonsense.
My next door neighbour was a federal cop who worked the airport, so I know something about how they operate. I was struck by the fact the 2 cops standing directly over the woman, both had their hands on their pistols.
I’m often the first to piss and moan about Australia’s strict immigration, but it doubtless makes UK style attacks less likely - too risky getting operatives in and out.
There are quite a few things I would like to say, just need to decide if we want this blog on Media Watch again. I am really jihading with myself and it is taking all the jihad I can jihad up, not to go all jihadi. Such is jihad.
Cattle ships, one-way tickets…
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 09:54 PM • permalinkOops, sorry Andrea. I was sure I formatted that URL. Hope it didn’t break anything. Here it is again formatted linky
The article’s title has changed for at least the second time (now it’s “Doctors caught in UK terror plot net"), and no longer mentions the Brisbane arrest of the eighth suspect. I can’t find mention of the Brisbane arrest elsewhere in the Herald breaking news section. Wazzup?
An earlier version of the article had stated that the man arrested in Brisbane was “assisting” authorities with their inquiries.
#80 - Like an angry letter, It may be best to sit on my thoughts overnight. No freaking hippy better accost me about climate change today. Although now that I think about it, that is a far more serious issue.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 10:02 PM • permalinkI couldn’t find mention of the Brisbane arrest of the eighth suspect elsewhere at the Herald’s breaking news section.
Meanwhile the Sydney Morning Herald has this: “Blast rips through southern NSW school”—no injuries were reported. It destroyed three class rooms and a library in the high school, and police have established a crime scene.
#70 ann j
Who would suspect a doctor, for example?
Someone with a lobotomy, perhaps?
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 02 at 10:14 PM • permalink#74, 67 and 51--
I took my daughter to her Indian friend’s party and the women were so beautiful. They were all dressed in traditional saris with delicious embroidery and elegant ornaments in their long hair.
Let me tell you I felt like an under-dressed, unfeminine frump.
Posted by tabitharuth on 2007 07 02 at 10:15 PM • permalinkHmmm, I was thinking, lots of Middle Eastern visitors, lots of existing theme parks, maybe its time for a disney themed park to meet the cultural needs of our sandy guests?
Planning it would seem has
already started it would seem.The Hippojihadic oath: First, do maximum harm. Then wail that you’re disenfranchised.
There’s a tradition in Islam of mass-killer docs.
Ayman al-Zawahiri, AQ no. 2:
Zawahiri was severely disenfranchised, “born into well-connected, establishment family, part of his country’s elite. Al-Zawahiri studied medicine at Cairo’s al-Azhar University, graduating as a paediatrician.”Abdel Aziz Rantisi, Hamas’ (late) “pediatrician of death”:
“By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine.”Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 07 02 at 10:17 PM • permalinkThere are a lot of doctors involved in this plot, and they seem to be from all over the world. I accuse them of rootless cosmopolitanism! It’s not like that sort haven’t been involved in Doctors Plots before.
#84 Hay is 400kms from the middle of nowhere - now that is a place where you might have an excuse for feeling disenfranchised. But kae at #91 is probably right - as usual.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 02 at 10:27 PM • permalinkEl Cid:
Yeah, well watch out for those boys named Sue. Me, I’ve been reluctant to give my prints to the Sheriff to get my concealed carry. I s’pose my paranoia of going about armed only w/ a clasp knife will outweigh my paranoia of giving the cops my fingerprints. Ooh, but I just bought me one of them Marlin 1894 lever guns in .357 (another caliber I own in). What better way to celebrate Independence Day?
Hippocratic Oath
I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:...
...Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves. (Nothing about goats! Hooray!!)...
...If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.
Enjoy your lot.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 10:35 PM • permalinkNews announcer on 10, Qld, just said that, with the arrest of a Queensland doctor at Brisbane Airport, trying to flee the country, the Premier, Powerpoint Pete, has called for calm. He said (paraphrased) “there is no threat in Queensland”.
Um, calling for calm?
Well, I don’t see any car-be-ques or riots in the street against foreign doctors; or any other un-calm reactions to the London/Glasgow/Brisbane outrages.OK, well, maybe no outrage happened in Brisbane, but you kow what I mean.
Oooh, look. Wiki about Hay. I’d call it south-west.
Probably failed his Australian furriners’ medical exam for the third time*, so of course he is involved in a plot to blow up a London night club. You know it just makes sense!
*the protectionist strategies of the local medical fraternity are no doubt closely linked to the tremendous expenses caused by Doctor’s Wives.
Why don’t we change the name of Australia to Context and take all the muslims out of it.
See you next Monday Mz. Attard.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 10:48 PM • permalink96 So you got the Marlin. Congrats and happy Shootin’ July 4.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 07 02 at 10:52 PM • permalinkMind you, Hay is a place of strategic importance for anyone travelling by car from Sydney to Adelaide, as there is little choice but to stop there for a slash.
Thankfully, the reasons for travelling to Adelaide from Sydney are few and far between.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 02 at 11:11 PM • permalinkAppeal for cool heads from the usual suspects. The article includes this whoopie-cushion of a quote: “Let’s not create a hypothetical problem…it can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.”
Sure, Abdullah, sure. In fact, it could be druids, pixies or the Knights of Columbus. We won’t start drawing conclusions until we get a nice, big stack of bodies.
Article courtesy of the very interesting Counterterrorism Blog.
#116 - I only travel to Adelaide when I have a body to dispose of.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 11:14 PM • permalink"Doc! Doc! It hurts when I do this!”
“Die, unbeliever!!!” [douses them both with kerosene and lights match]Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 07 02 at 11:23 PM • permalinkMr Beattie said the doctor was regarded by the hospital as a “model citizen’’.
I’d like a second opinion or a product recall please.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 02 at 11:34 PM • permalinkWell at least we Americans don’t have to worry about these terrorist doctors—I mean think of the MALPRACTICE suits that would result from a car bomb. They wouldn’t dare, we’d sue the muzzie docs back to the
stoneice age.Posted by Shaky Barnes on 2007 07 02 at 11:43 PM • permalink#45 Dan Lewis, and there are some predictable ones in the SMH:
Why are the attempted bombings in Britain “terrorism”, but the killing of 665,000 people, overwhelmingly civilians, in Iraq is something else?
We never hear the “T” word when we kill the innocent, however many are slaughtered in our name. We are not living under the threat of terrorism, we are drowning in humbug.
Stephen Langford Paddington
Stretching for o/t-ness, since Alan Johnston is a Brit: Dagmush-Hamas Tensions Rising
It’s only a matter of time before we hear that this is further evidence of rampant islamophobia and western imperialism in the middle east. It has gotten so bad that even doctors are forced to take drastic action to call attention to the plight of their muslim brothers.
Personally I blame unmoderated blog posts.Posted by alien kiwi on 2007 07 03 at 12:32 AM • permalinkThat 665,000 number is about ten times too high, and involves blaming the Coalition for ALL media-reported war-related killings of civilians in Iraq since the invasion. In other words, killings by Al Qaeda, Ba’athists, etc., as reported by Iraqi media (which tend to exaggerate), are blamed on the Coalition. That’s Turnspeak
I wrote that the wrong way—the 665,000 number is not the result of Iraqi media exaggeration but of some propagandistic “researchers.” The number 66,807 to 73,120, supplied by IraqBodyCount.org, is the number which blames all Iraq war-related killings of civilians on the Coalition and probably involves some media exaggeration.
#131:
and what level of factoring of the number of deaths has been done if no intervention over the period had occurred ?
Surely it would be fair to subtract the number of people being murdered under Saddam’s regime over that period of time anyway..
Figures designed to accentuate how many people have died due to intervention (surprisingly) forget about those that were in the zone of “standard rates” .
A couple or maybe more years back our ABC ran a programme about boat people and in particular a group of ‘charming’ young men 16-18 whos parents had ‘sold everything so that their dear sons could buy a passage to Australia and a better life????????? It was a group that had been ‘adopted’ & taken under the wings of some ‘motherly souls’ from a Roman Catholic womans group in Queensland. They undertook to find them accomodation and ensure that they were able to get into schools and universities to complete their studies at taxpayers expense.
I said at the time to the’lofty disdain’ of some of my caring colleagues that they could very well be the vanguard of sleeper cells for AQ. No families and I suspected products of Madrassas- they seemed very unperturbed at leaving their ‘loving families’!
Now I wonder what all these young men did since arrival ,and what are they doing now?
I do hope someone is checking.John Howard was completely correct to stop the boats coming in- a pity some Vietnamese were allowed in as I suspect too, that among the good ones were many criminals who set up their triads here.
How many hard working Aussies ever make so much money in such a short time and get to own so much land.
Call me a sceptic- too right.The same with that group og Iraqis- professionals and Drs who were only able to pick fruit at Shepperton & whom the local community went out on a limb to keep in their district and tried to get them into the jobs they were supposedly trained for. Where are they now
The only educated in Iraq I suspect, were members of the ‘elite’ and members or families of members of the Ba’athist party and who were probably encouraged to get out and set up ‘court’ elsewhere and to tranfer funds if Iraq fell.
We already know one of Saddams henchmen married an Australian woman In Adelaide.
Its sad that genuine refugees could suffer but better a few of them than thousands of us- tough times tough love. Charity begins at home in my book now.
I used to give several hundreds of dollars each year, to the MSF- Drs without borders and Red Cross- not any more since learming of their involvement with terroists in Gaza and the Red Cross for refusal to aid Israelis.
No I am not a Jew nor have any connections- just read all that I can.
We can no longer ever really enjoy a trip to any large city and wonder if we will get home thanks to the ROP.
I do not fret about it and they will not stop me living life to the full- but always like a shadow the thoughts are ever there.This is only wiki but it seems to be a fairly sober assessment of Iraq during the happy years.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 03 at 01:09 AM • permalinkI just enjoyed a nice lunch with the Easter Bunny, a sober Irishman and a moderate muslim. Admittedly, by the end of lunch the Irishman was none too sober.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 03 at 01:20 AM • permalinkA HOSPITAL registrar being questioned by police in Brisbane in connection with the attempted UK terror bombings in London and Glasgow was an Indian national working at the Gold Coast Hospital on a 457 visa, Prime Minister John Howard said.
Prediction: watch the same moonbats who protest detention centres and off-shore processing slam Howard for allowing this threat to security come in on a 457 work visa.
-27-year-old Queensland doctor
-An Iraqi physician and a Palestinian doctorFrom the Hippocratic Oath:
“In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing ...”Argument with a left wing friend:
Friend: The War on Terror is against fanatics. Madmen bent on evil; the kind of people who exist in all ethnicities and societies.
Me: What’s interesting about the ‘madmen’ is that they are entirely lucid. Their ideology is pure and their intentions plain. Doesn’t it strike you as ironic that these fanatics are often more highly educated than the ‘ignorant’ people you fear guys like Mark Steyn will inflame?
So now we know for sure terrorists aren’t disaffected, disenfranchised, poverty stricken victims of western oppression.
They are animals, brainwashed into murder, they are nothing more than Islamic psychopaths.
Pure and simple.
The 7.30 Report and The Age must be having apoplexy trying to find ways to hose these bastards down.
#148 I see El Cid’s compost and raise soap.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 02:58 AM • permalinkSEVERAL people arrested in connection with the terror attacks were traced after mobile telephones found intact in the failed London car bombs yielded crucial information.
It is thought that the terrorists, believing that the phones would be destroyed, were lazy and left several crucial numbers in their telephones’ memories.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 03:23 AM • permalinkFrom the Hippocratic Oath:
“In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing ...”Allah has already ordained for you, the dissolution of your oaths … Surah 66:2
Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for theintention in your hearts Surah 2:225
Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward thoseof the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty. Surah 9:1
Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the infidels Surah 9:3
The ABC is trumpeting to anyone who will listen that the Gold Coast doctor is Indian; while not mentioning that his first name is Mahommed. Gerard Whately breathlessly interviewd some academic who trotted out the Left’s favourite terrorism ‘O’ word - ‘overreaction’, as in any West response might be.
"An Iraqi physician and a Palestinian doctor working at British hospitals were identified Monday among those held in the failed car bomb attacks on London and Glasgow ...”
And, on the American front, the United States government is about to admit hordes of Iraqi refugees…
“Washington – The United States is prepared to increase significantly the number of Iraqi refugees it admits as the civil unrest in Iraq drives a greater number of people from their homes...”
“...Sauerbrey emphasized that there is no cap on the number of Iraqi refugees the United States is willing to resettle.”
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 03 at 03:51 AM • permalink”...the 665,000 number is not the result of Iraqi media exaggeration but of some propagandistic “researchers.”’
The number comes from Les Roberts, a self-admitted traitor and collaborator with the Baathist military, in collusion with “researchers” recruited straight out of the Sunni triangle...and the number is total hogwash.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 03 at 04:12 AM • permalink"The PM has called for calm."
Just once I would love a poli to call for riots and gay abandon.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 03 at 04:43 AM • permalinkSeriously, is any of this a surprise? We are at war, on all fronts and the enemy has long ago proven that nothing is sacred. (Mejia Watch will love what I am about to say) It is not paranoia, but good defensive measures to suspect any and all muslims living and working within our midst of (in descending order of precedence) active terrorism, collusion with terrorists, or tacit approval of terror activities. I am not advocating the concentration camp mindset of the Japanese during WWII, or the blacklisting mentality of the McCarthy Era, but I am recommending a very wary stance and prudent observation of all muslim gathering places and mosques (especially in the funding arena). If we are going to allow the proven enemy to live and work amongst us, the least we should do is keep our eyes open. I’ve personally witnessed doctors in Iraq blatantly lie about casualty figures, patient mistreatment and patient identities. The fact that these most recent terrorists are doctors is par for the course. You will also find teachers, grocery store clerks, taxi cab drivers, software developers, postal workers and members of any and all trade communities in their midst. The enemy is here, semi-protected by his leftist tools and operating quite efficiently. Expect much more.
Doctors, Mercedes Benz’ - can we at last put to the sword the notion that terrorists are poor, pitiable, uneducated Muslims?
Knowing the media won’t tell it straight I call for a better lie to explain attempts to murder the innocent.
First attempt- Life as we know really is a pain in the arse therefore any attempt to hasten our departure should be viewed favourably. Muslims really are spiritual liberators.
You know it makes sense - give me a lamb chop.
#161 I think the cat got his
chintongue.Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 05:00 AM • permalinkThe thoughts that come when ironing!
It is easy to believe the worst of thes men, and with good reason but the appparent sheer amateurishness and stupidy of this act of terrorism makes one wonder if these Drs had perchance been targeted by Al Quaeda with their families threatened if they did not comply? Highly unlikely I know but it would account for this poor work. They may have wanted to satisfy the demands of those who could threaten them and at the same time ensure that the act failed and the phones disclose who the real terror masters are and pulling the strings.
Just a thought- but perhaps I’ve been too many Paco thrillers??#163 - I think you will enjoy it here. Stick around.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 07 03 at 05:08 AM • permalink#163 Yup. You are correct in asserting that the islamists will stop at nothing, and no one is safe when they are near.
From your link: This confirms for us again that militants are willing to fire from among civilians,
Good catch, and welcome to the RWDB society. Contact Paco or MarkL at your earliest convenience about your membership dues (which unfortunately are now in arrears)
With the Islamist problem in the UK what kind of idiot hires Muslim doctors from abroad? I mean is the NHS completely stupid?
Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2007 07 03 at 05:37 AM • permalinkI really dont give a damn anymore, when I see an Islamic woman in the full head to toe black gear, with only eye slits walking with her western dressed owner, sorry husband I just see them now as my enemy plain and simple.
Her garb is pure hate politics made mobile for all to see. It screams out that they loathe what we are here in Oz. It has nothing to do with spirituality or faith but is rubbing our faces in it saying “look at our plans for you, infidel dog”.
Also they look like shit and scare the children. What on earth is wrong with these utter, utter dickheads ??154 Dave Surls. The 655,000 number is total hogwash, you say?
But… my heart tells me it totally adds up.
Halliburton + Bush + oil = 655,000.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 07 03 at 06:33 AM • permalink#156 - sorry but you are clearly somewhat ignorant regarding this field…
“There’s the problem. Someone with a dodgy degree from some third-world shithole luniversity gets a senior position in a first-world hospital.”
As a locally trained (non-presby, non-terrorist) doctor with 10+ years experience working in Australia and several other countries I can assure you that there are plenty of “third world” universities and trainees which are perfectly fine. And given the conditions under which many of these guys work, they are often pretty resourceful. The fact that, unlike India or Bangladesh we are too stupid and disorganised to produce enough medical graduates reflects poorly on our society - not theirs.
#178 Well said. I attempted a post with a similar tone to yours, but with no medical experience I had to focus on the specific, instead of the general. The tsunami of google results washed away my resolve.
There lately seems to be an increase in xenophobia on TB. I’m not advocating multi-culti hugs and kisses, and I’m all for wacking islam (or any other cult, religion, culture or country) with just reason, but I don’t understand why someone would refer to India as a “third-world shithole” or say that the Germans and Japanese are “still turds. And if they get a chance, they’ll do it again.”
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 07:25 AM • permalink#181
Thomas said U.S. ground forces helping to carry out a NATO mission had come under fire by Taliban insurgents using small arms, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars. Thomas said the troops responded by firing on insurgents who were shooting from a compound and a network of trenches.
Blending? Villages?
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 07:36 AM • permalink#180. Why the surprise, this site is only slightly to the ‘Left’ of Stormfront.
#176. Ah yes, the ‘discredited’ Lancet Survey...whoops, someone forgot to tell the Brits...
“The British government was advised against publicly criticising a report estimating that 655,000 Iraqis had died due to the war, the BBC has learnt.
Iraqi Health Ministry figures put the toll at less than 10% of the total in the survey, published in the Lancet.
But the Ministry of Defence’s chief scientific adviser said the survey’s methods were “close to best practice” and the study design was “robust”.
Another expert agreed the method was “tried and tested"."
#182. The strategy when bombs incinerated civilian areas was outlined by Chief Warrant Officer Dave Diaz, who told his Special Forces A-Team: “Yes, it is a civilian village, mud hut, like everything else in this country. But don’t say that. Say it’s a military compound. It’s a built-up area, barracks, command and control. Just like with the convoys: If it really was a convoy with civilian vehicles they were using for transport, we would just say hey, military convoy, troop transport.”
#181/3 Ah yes Freshman DoubleD, how quickly you are to embrace unsubstantiated claims over those of US officials. More or less screams to which side you are on. You are either a sympathizer, a terrorist or an ignorant agitator (or perhaps a mixture of all 3). Either way it works out, you’re with the opposing side and I’ve nothing more to say to you or hear from you. Good day and best of luck to you. You’ll need it.
Andrea, please initiate the penalty for habitual OT discussion and trolling.
#186 I’d be interested in seeing evidence of DoubleD’s claims, Texas Bob. Actual, real, evidence, not the crap that lefties usually choose to present as evidence.
What the military does in Iraq is incredible, and I have no interest in hearing that the military is intentionally killing civilians. It’s pretty clear that the military is going out of it’s way not to kill people.
#185 Not sure what your point is, but nice lack of context. Diaz was outlining how, during the invasion of Afghanistan, he maintained morale of pilots directed to attack civilian property that had been identified by Special Forces as being used the taliban. He was not saying how such attacks should be presented to the media.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 08:02 AM • permalink#192 mehaul? Tarzan’s removalist company? :p
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 08:26 AM • permalinkWhat’s with all these Doctors?
“...if you are a surgeon, you must find some enjoyment ... slicing people open or debriding wounds and mucking around in them.” Dr. Sanity.
Found at the end of #194’s link, how’s this for mujahedeen “blending into their own villages”.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 08:50 AM • permalinkDoubleD, I really like your style. I am interested in your thoughts and would like to subscribe to your newsletter!
Tell me more about how:
“But they weren’t Taliban. The Taliban were far away from there,” said Wali Khan”
While also
“Very few Taliban were killed,”
Pretty nice to get even a very few when they’re all so far away!
“Slightly more have been killed by NATO and U.S.-led forces than by the Taliban, according to several independent assessments.”
Unnamed, unlinked, and unattributed “independent assessments” numbering in the “several” have come to the shattering consensus that NATO forces (including Canadians presumably?) have killed “slightly” more civilians than the Taliban. Deeply troubling.
#182, Dude, you can put as many quotation marks around “discredited” as you like, the problems with the Lancet study are clearly revealed by even a casual look at their applied method:
“study design was “robust”.
Another expert agreed the method was “tried and tested"." “ Yes! I agree! However they did not even begin to apply the method. The design was good, the method was tried and true, but they didn’t use either.
#196 wreckage
#182, Dude, you can put as many quotation marks around “discredited” as you like
#183, not me.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 03 at 09:42 AM • permalinkDouble Doof obviously just dropped in long enough to spit in the punch bowl. Positing moral equivalence between the Taliban, for whom terror and murder are considered standard operating procedure and pillars of good governance, and the allies, who have tried to drive out these savages while simultaneously attempting to reduce the likelihood of civilian casualties, is just the same old leftwing hypocrisy dressed up as “concern” for the local populace.
I meant to post this earlier. When this story first broke and we first heard they were doctors (in Glasgow), I heard in the 7pm ABC news report a reference to terrorists coming from areas (in the uk or scotland) that have high unemployment. It was the old “poverty is the root cause” line. Can anyone confirm I heard this correctly?
Gee, here in America, the doctors just kill you with the billing…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 03 at 10:45 AM • permalinkIt looks like I was right in #41.
Al-Muhajir was told to recruit young men who could easily move into Western countries, assimilate and lay low until the time came to attack. Britain has a fast-track visa program for medical students which makes it easier for them to enter the country.
(From a report featured at Hot Air.)
Posted by andycanuck on 2007 07 03 at 11:22 AM • permalinkJust as a practical matter, I don’t think these doctor/murderers would bother killing patients one at a time (unless they were just indulging in a pastime). In order to make jihad meaningful, acts of murder must be spectacular, attractive to the news outlets, and produce lots of bodies, maimed and mangled if at all possible. It’s an act aimed at the cameras, after all. One-on-one stealthy death of sick people wouldn’t do, as there’s no chance to scream “Allahu akhbar!” after every one.
But the Ministry of Defence’s chief scientific adviser said the survey’s methods were “close to best practice” and the study design was “robust”.
Close to best practice for the purpose of epidemiological studies. Much like trying to use a toaster to make an omelette, applying those “robust” methods to something like terrorist attacks (or to humour your worldview of Iraq, let’s call it “civil-war-like events") that exhibit completely different characteristics is at best silly, and at worst irresponsible.
Please flitter off now, you’re already trite and boring.
Found some links re the 655,000 number.
• “Democrat Trashes Republicans” - Tim Blair, Oct 20, 2006. Lead researcher Les Roberts ran for Dem nomination to U.S. Congress in early 2006.
• “The Lancet: Medical Journal Or Activist Rag?” - J.F. Beck, RWDB, Oct 13, 2006. A series of mendacious Lancet thrusts—bad form! Ever since Richard Horton became its editor.• “655,000 War Dead?: A bogus study on Iraq casualties.” - Steven E. Moore, Opinion Journal (WSJ), Oct 18, 2006
• “Exaggeration won’t save Iraqis: The new claims about the civilian death toll in Iraq are vastly overstated” - David Burchell, The Australian, Oct 19, 2006
The same Johns Hopkins team under the same Les Roberts had submitted another bogus report to the same Brit medical journal (the Lancet) just before the US Presidential election in 2004.• “100,000 Civilian Deaths Estimated in Iraq” - Rob Stein, Washington Post Staff Writer, Friday, Oct 29, 2004; Page A16. Even the WaPo casts doubt on the study and quotes Human Rights Watch senior military analyst Marc E. Garlasco saying the “numbers seem to be inflated” and calling their methods “certainly prone to inflation....”
• “100,000 Dead—or 8,000: How many Iraqi civilians _have_ died as a result of the war?” - Fred Kaplan, Slate, Oct 29,2004
• “Bogus Lancet Study” - Shannon Love, Chicago Boyz, Oct 29 2004
• Comment on “Bogus Lancet Study" - AMMackay, Chicago Boyz, Oct 29 2004—Not only did the study’s lead author submit it to the Lancet on condition that it be published before the 2004 US election, but also, as MacKay points out, the peer review process was extraordinarily compressed.
• “Lancet Civilian Death Report Kills the Truth” - Michael Fumento, Tech Central Station, Nov 1 2004Gwynne Dyer says we Americans need to suck it up and stop obsessing about terrorism ‘cause the “occasional terrorist attack is one of the costs of doing business in the modern world” and Gordon Brown says none dare call them Muslims.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 03 at 02:44 PM • permalink#211 From the article linked by Kyda: “The Prime Minister has also instructed his team –including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase ‘war on terror’ is to be dropped. The shake-up is part of a fresh attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims, adopting a more ‘consensual’ tone than existed under Tony Blair.”
I look forward to some of the interesting political and social developments under the Brown government. Can a queen be a caliph? Can a caliph be the head of the Church of England? Will the changing of the camels at Buckingham Mosque be as big a tourist draw as the changing of the guard? Will spotted dick be declared haram? What vegetables do you serve with goat wellington? No doubt, we will be able to find the answers to these and other questions on the “Ask Ye Olde Imam” web site.
SteveH
It doesn’t matter. Basically, if you triger a bomb with anything more sophisticated than a homemade slow match, the investigators can find something with which to begin tracing the culprits. Wiping a cell phone really won’t delay the investigation more than a short period of time.Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 07 03 at 06:09 PM • permalink#211 - Perhaps the ultra-relaxed Gwynne Dyer should offer up himself and that ancient moldy leather jacket which his body has assimilated to his favourite local jihadis to let them get their ya-yas out on a compliant Westerner without disturbing the rest of us.
Posted by Crispytoast on 2007 07 03 at 08:13 PM • permalinkCourtesy of Jackson Browne:
Doctor, my eyes have seen the years
Through the slow parade of tears without crying,
Now I want to understand.
I have done all that I could
To see the evil and the good, without hiding,
You must help me if you can.Doctor my eyes,
Tell me what is wrong.
Was I unwise to leave them open for so long?I have wandered through this world
As each moment has unfurled,
I’ve been waiting to awaken from this dream.
People go just where they will,
I never notice them until I’ve got this feeling
That it’s later than it seems.Doctor my eyes,
Tell me what is real.
I hear their cries,
Just say if it’s too late for me.Doctor my eyes,
Cannot be disguised.
Is this the prize for having learned how not to cry?Posted by charles austin on 2007 07 03 at 10:14 PM • permalink#188.
What the military does in Iraq is incredible, and I have no interest in hearing that the military is intentionally killing civilians.
Translation: I have no interest in hearing the truth, I only want to hear what my fellow wingnuts tell me
Interesting...given that most conservatives are suspicious of ‘Big Government’ and often discount what they say…
As for evidence, well, here you go!
Gordon Brown takes steps towards a more consensual approach to terrorism, beginning with the national anthem:
¡Dios excepto la reina su régimen fascista
le hizo un moron una bomba del potencial h!
Dios excepto la reina ella aint ningún est del ser humano
allí no es ningún futuro en englands que el soñar
no se dice lo que usted desea no se diga lo que usted necesita
Es ningún futuro ningún futuro ningún futuro para usted
dios excepto la reina significamos que hombre (el dios ahorra la ventana leen)
nosotros ama a nuestra reina el dios ahorra (dios excepto… los humanos!)
El dios excepto los turistas de la reina lechuga romana es dinero
y nuestro figurehead no es lo que ella se parece
dios del Oh excepto dios de la historia excepto su señor enojado
del Oh del desfile que el dios tiene misericordia todos los crímenes son pagados
cuando los theres no hay futuro cómo puede haber pecado
las flores en el cubo de basura
eran el veneno en su máquina humana
eran el futuro su dios
futuro excepto la reina significamos que hombre
allí no es ningún futuro en los england!Additional material by Ken Livingstone, George Galloway and Sid Vicious.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 04 at 10:15 AM • permalinkRe #223, heh!, you dug up an article from April 2002 discussing collateral damage (you do know what “inadvertant” means, right?). Said article does a poor job of use Timothy McVeigh as some sort of moral equivilence. But, hey, the article discusses Americans killing civilians, so damn the context, it’s evidence that Americans deliberately kill civilians at every opprotunity, just like terrorists!!
Cretin.
Oh, and, DD, you are clearly suffering from conflation, obfuscation, and a lack of moral standards, commonly known as “idiocy” or “leftardia”. Left untreated, this condition can be fatal, but fortunately, treatment is simple and effective: pull your head out of your ass.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 04 at 11:31 AM • permalink
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Emperor Hirihito is a Muslim? Who woulda figured?
Seriously, whether these guys are competent or not, they’re sure trying awful hard, and if we don’t maintain vigilance, one of them’s bound to get lucky someday.