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Time magazine’s Steve Waterson smacks Germaine Greer upside the head over her Steve Irwin outburst:
Greer is disgusted by a vulgar fellow like Irwin, just as she has previously been disgusted by Australia’s vulgar choice of prime minister, its lack of culture, its shameful history and so much else Australian that doesn’t meet the standards of her refined intellect (how she must have agonized before accepting the invitation to appear on Celebrity Big Brother). Let’s pay tribute to that intellect by employing her rhetorical device of invented quote and response. I imagine her yelling: “I am a loathsome creature who lacks human feeling and has so completely lost touch with Australia that I vow to be silent on its affairs.” Yes Germaine, that’s a great idea. And start today, will you, for God’s sake.
Greer left Australia for England; Waterson left England for Australia. Waterson wins. Read the whole thing.
“Cow”, Rebecca? You are being far, far, far too kind to that ancient [bleep].
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 10 at 12:13 PM • permalinkso much else Australian that doesn’t meet the standards of her refined intellect (how she must have agonized before accepting the invitation to appear on Celebrity Big Brother).
DAMN that hits the spot!
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 09 10 at 12:55 PM • permalinkOff topic but thank you RebeccaH and I think one or two others who showed up here and left remarks:
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2006/09/fisking-we-go-hi-ho-dairy-oh-fisking.html
The disparaging lurker who claims to know me in fact does, revealed himself and backed off. But I’m afraid I was a little mean-spirited in my reply.
OK, as you were. Greer away!
Posted by crittenden on 2006 09 10 at 01:08 PM • permalinkBelieve it, or not, I have no idea who this person is, so I Googled her name. The first thing I see is “feminist academic Germaine Greer”. ‘nuff said!
Then, a little farther on was this:
In 2003 she criticized J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy for attracting “spaced-out hippies, environmentalists, free-market libertarians, social conservatives, pacifists, new-age theosophists, sexists and racists the world over.”OK, I’m a huge LotR fan, and I can see myself in more than one category…and almost everyone else but Greer in the one of the others.
She must be so lonely.
A match made in Heaven.
Once she (Greer) gave a lecture at Oxford, arguing that the female orgasm was not only a facet of gender tyranny but was also vastly overrated. A male student raised his hand. “About that overrated orgasm,” he drawled. “Won’t you give a Southern boy another chance?” The speaker was a young Rhodes scholar called Bill Clinton.
I still think the best commentary made about Greer was the Aussie gentlemans’ quip “she should stick to women’s issues.”
All that needed was a soft-spoken “bless her heart” to make that the perfect slap upside the head.
Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 09 10 at 02:01 PM • permalinkSuggestion for Germaine Greer’s epitaph:
When one is a stupid, ugly, classless, commie loon one pretty much has to opt for a career as a feminist “academic”.
There aren’t too many other options.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 09 10 at 02:14 PM • permalinkwhat a well judged article by Waterson.
Now for my lack of any balance: I hope the old harpie Greer rots in hell soon.
Posted by procrustes on 2006 09 10 at 02:42 PM • permalinkI actually picked up an issue of the US Time the other day. Good lord, I’ve owned thicker comic books… with less advertising. That’s a major national publication?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 09 10 at 04:08 PM • permalinkI actually picked up an issue of the US Time ... I’ve owned thicker comic books… with less advertising.
Time was quite influential in its day, but then so was the New York Herald Tribune. Really old people tend to buy Buicks and read Time—I think it’s a law, or something.
Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2006 09 10 at 04:31 PM • permalinkTime is what you read when you go to the dentist. I bet waiting rooms make up at least 75% of their subscriber base.
Posted by Sarah Brabazon-Biggar on 2006 09 10 at 05:35 PM • permalinkThat’s a major national publication?
It is now…..having gone downhill in a bad way.
Time is what you read when you go to the dentist.
And the men’s room in our office. I think someone put it there as reading material, as the paper Time is printed on would make a lousy emergency toilet paper. But if I ever start reading Time, I always put it down in favor of Field & Stream or Popular Mechanics.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 10 at 05:48 PM • permalinkAnother fine Greer moment was her comment after Cherie Blair (as in Tony Blair, not our host!) fell pregnant.
This appalled the old hag Greer who told Tony ‘to get off her’. Thus reducing the very independent Cherie Blair to a mere passive sex object. So much for respect for women!
Yet the left in Australia still adore her and hang off every word.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 09 10 at 06:02 PM • permalinkAt least Greer has Little Lefty the Brave who has gone into bat for someone with bigger balls than him.
Germaine Greer is getting exactly the reaction from everyone around that world that she was looking for. Her name hasnt been tossed around this much in years. You all say that she wont be remember or she will be remembered as something nasty but the fact of the matter is the more we all talk about how awful she is (and she really is a facist, unhappy old b**ch) the more exposure she gets. As they say no publicity is bad publicity and now there are at least 7 people in my office who know who she is now who didnt know 10 days ago.
My mother used to say if you ignore someone they will go away and I cant think of any better treatment of the old b**ch
Fave quote so far:
And i wonder, did you do any research whatsoever on Greer? Obviously it wouldnt have fit the nastiness of your peice to include that she too is a conservationist and animal lover. Greer is the president of Buglife - the invertebrate conservation trust in the UK. She also bought up and manages a 50 hectare plot of rainforest which is is trying to restore to its virgin state.
50 hectares of rainforest in Qld compared with the millions of dollars and hectares around the world for Steve Irwin’s contribution to conservation.
Oh, and pres of Buglife. Yeah, that’ll get you a pass from Al Gore every time.
Idiot.
Greer makes a token gesture and everyone knows about it. Steve just got down and did the job without making a fuss.
I’ll say it again. Idiot.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 10 at 06:40 PM • permalinkGreer really does know how to push buttons, which I guess is part of her job.
SCD makes an interesting point about Greer’s interjection into the marriage of Cherie and Tony.
Greer apparently used to be about female sexual [removed]I’ve never read her book so I wouldn’t know), but her comment about Mrs Blair indicated that she thought Cherie should find sex with Tony loathsome and a chore.
Well, perhaps Cherie loves getting some action with her old man. Good on them for still doing the deed after so many years of marriage. Anyway, it’s none of Greer’s business.
Alas, expats like Greer, Humphreys etc etc still seem to think Australia is a colonial outpost. It’s their insecurity and lack of knowledge that’s the problem, not ours.
Slightly O/T, but why haven’t state and or the federal govts sponsored a visit by the internet inventor before now?
We’ve been in grip of drought, with level 4 water restrictions coming in, requiring residents to wring the sweat out of their undies for drinking water- as soon as Warmy Boy lobs, it drops ten degrees and rains like a thousand bastards..
He must excrete silver nitrate, or something similar- we’d better make sure he heads home before we wind up like New Orleans though.
#22 Killaette
I couldn’t agree more. Nothing would make her happier than upsetting people who read Tim Blair.
Tim - why persist in discussing her?
btw - the same goes for that pompous prick Loewenstein (who, before moving here i had thankfully never heard of)
Posted by pommygranate on 2006 09 10 at 07:40 PM • permalinkRinardman (#6):
In 2003 she criticized J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy for attracting “spaced-out hippies, environmentalists, free-market libertarians, social conservatives, pacifists, new-age theosophists, sexists and racists the world over.”
She is basically criticising the book for appealing to just about everyone, no matter their background or beliefs. Well, I can see how that would piss her off.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 09 10 at 07:44 PM • permalinkI think Germaine needs some sex. Then she might just shut the fuck up and stop complaining.
Posted by The Best Infidel on 2006 09 10 at 07:47 PM • permalinkKillaette - yes, what is it with the rain in this country? They didnt tell me it rained in Sydney when we moved here (vain attempt to keep new conversation about the weather going - very British thing to do).
Posted by pommygranate on 2006 09 10 at 08:09 PM • permalinkI agree with much of what has been said about Greer - the mean-spirited things she said about Irwin are seriously incredible. So is The Age reprinting that article straight from The Guardian -couldn’t find any anti-Israel commentators that day perhaps.
I have an issue with one thing on this forum - there are enough legitimate, creative criticisms to make of her comments without resorting to the “old hag” type of insult.# 34, about Greer needing some “good sex” - who doesn’t?
Posted by carpefraise on 2006 09 10 at 08:22 PM • permalinkoops, just “sex”. i need a typing nurse…
sorry #34.(ruined a good punchline…)
Posted by carpefraise on 2006 09 10 at 08:23 PM • permalinkCarpefraise,
I might normally agree with you about the hag insults but not in this case. I think what people are getting at is that the ugliness outside is matched by ugliness inside. That is what habitual sour expressions will do to your face.Posted by Lloyd Flack on 2006 09 10 at 08:34 PM • permalinkDe nada, Jules. That idiot cried out for a rational response…..not that he will listen. It’s like throwing pebbles against a brick wall.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 10 at 09:09 PM • permalinkOh boy! A Greer stoning (shoulders his way to the front).
Not only does Ms Greer have a cat on her Queensland patch of rainforest but she had the terrain remodelled with earth-moving machinery.
My 90 year-old mother adored Irwin and says her greatest joy now would be to find herself within slapping-reach of “that Greer creature”.I knew Greer when she was doing her MA at Sydney University, many years ago. My then girlfriend was a friend. We used to go out drinking with her and her mates at pubs in The Rocks, where Germaine indulged her passion for picking up builders’ labourers. She enjoyed the thrill of being fucked ny the working class (the closest she probably ever got to it,) while maintaining an air of intellectual superiority over her partners, which appealed to lot of the guys. It was not often they got to fuck an academic. She was apparently quite a screamer in bed (I never had any personal experience).
In those conformist days, she was quite a breath of fresh air. Sad to see what became of her.
The saddest thing I think is that someone who people use to suspect was intelligent (Greer) has lost track of what is important. An attack on Steve for not doing things I the “civilised” way. This from a feminist and the best she can do is attack somebody who is more famous than she is who did it his way and there are millions of woman oppressed in some countries because of the ROP. Where are her priorities? But I suppose she basically is jealous of people have become more relevant than she is.
To show some real balls (sic) maybe she could become vocal about these woman and damn the death threats.
Sad really.
Posted by The Big Fish on 2006 09 10 at 10:54 PM • permalink#48 She’s a metaphor for the feminist movement. Intriguing and relevant in the 70’s; hijacked by the far left; became a breeding ground for man-hatred; took on “post-modernism,” thus starting a self-imposed ban on exporting feminism to the third world; became a neutered (or eunuched?) voice due to an inability to adapt and change to a rapidly changing society; sliding into irrelevance in the 21st century.
Posted by daddy dave on 2006 09 10 at 10:59 PM • permalinkIn 2003 she criticized J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy for attracting “spaced-out hippies, environmentalists, free-market libertarians, social conservatives, pacifists, new-age theosophists, sexists and racists the world over.”
How on earth does “Lord of the Rings” appeal to pacifists? It’s three books’ worth of liberals being mugged by reality, while the heroes all have swords and the will to use them. It’s wall-to-wall warfare.
On the plus side, that did inspire a most enjoyable image involving Sauron and Kofi Annan ...
I picture Kofi Annan and Grimer Wormtongue together, myself…...
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 11 at 12:14 AM • permalinkIf for nothing else, Steve Irwin will be remembered fondly as a cheery, likeable guy who loved nature and animals and shared that love with anyone who would listen. Germaine Greer will be remembered as a nasty old cow.
I prefer to think of her as a nasty old c***.
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 09 11 at 05:41 AM • permalink#44 bloody nice work, JeffS. And Mr Crittenden is too polite to his detractors. One interesting but disturbing development is that leftist commentators are adopting the “Fifth crusade” label.
Drawing parallels to the crusades makes absolutely no sense unless you are an Arab muslim with no understanding of the West, or even international politics, at all. To see the left blindly adopting this propaganda phrase is barely comprehensible to me.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 09 11 at 10:28 AM • permalinkSomebody claiming to be Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger apparently tried to defend Greer in a comment to a post at Sydney Indymedia.
#62 somebody claiming to Greer herself also posted there, but it is almost certainly a forgery.
But for petes sake you are you all overreacting??
Using question marks in this way, after a tentative declaration, is a very recent language phenomenon. Greer would consider this to be low-brow and showing lack of education. She would never do it. She would also never begin a sentence with a conjunction.
Conclusion: not Greer.
As for the Alan Rusbridger post, the writer incorrectly refers to Greer as “staff.”
Conclusion: Not Rusbridger.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 09 11 at 12:44 PM • permalink#25,26 Err, Shtum. (Andrea owns a cat, too.)
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If for nothing else, Steve Irwin will be remembered fondly as a cheery, likeable guy who loved nature and animals and shared that love with anyone who would listen. Germaine Greer will be remembered as a nasty old cow.