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“LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE”
Rod Liddle notes progress in the UK:
This is how far we have come in the past year or so. When an ICM poll of Britain’s Muslims in February this year revealed that some 40% (that is, about 800,000 people) wished to see Islamic law introduced in parts of Britain, the chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality responded by saying that they should therefore pack their bags and clear off. Sir Trevor Phillips’s exact words were these: “If you want to have laws decided in another way, you have to live somewhere else.”
My guess is this: if such a statement had been made by a member of the Tory party’s Monday Club in 1984 — or, for that matter, 1994 — he would have been excoriated and quite probably would have been kicked out of the party. “If you don’t like it here then go somewhere else” was once considered the apogee of “racism”.
Not any more. Nor should it be. Australia has also come to terms with the pack-your-bags argument, alarmed media types notwithstanding.
Plenty of talk, complete absence of action however. I’ll believe these peanuts are doing anything more than grandstanding when the first deportation occurs- this wookie would be a bloody good start.
assimilate or migrate.
And damn the multiculti crap.Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 08 28 at 12:24 AM • permalinkGood lord, telling people who have just moved someplace that they can’t change the laws of their new country to suit them isn’t racism, it’s common sense. Tell you what. Is it okay if I move to Saudi Arabia and started telling the people there to change their laws to allow me to run about the streets in a bikini and drive cars? Didn’t think so. What a fucking idiot. He deserves to live under sharia.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 28 at 12:40 AM • permalinkI decided to send in a comment:
So I guess you’ve cast off the remorse about the way the British moved in on countries like India and imposed British laws and customs? Because that’s basically what the Muslims in favor of imposing sharia are wanting to do to you.
Comments, of course, are “moderated,” so we’ll see if it actually shows up. You can say that people like this, who want to impose their cultural masochism on those not inclined to such perversions, are starting to make me a tad angry.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 28 at 12:46 AM • permalinkTo my eyes the war on terror is being fought on two levels. On one level, as almost everyone knows, violent Islamists are trying to destroy our societies by bombing our planes, trains, or anything else they can. This is what is most easily explained through the media especially TV. Everyone — except the far Left — is acutely aware of this. On the second level, Muslims everywhere — Britain, America, Australia, everywhere — are involving themselves in politics much more than they were before 9/11. What is happening here is not hard to see: political (i.e. non-violent) Islamists are striving to get more power. They are patient and disciplined operators slowly chipping away at Western freedoms. That so many Muslims want Sharia law in Britain warrants further (critical) discussion. Far from being afraid to criticise Muslims who seek to impose Sharia law upon us, we ought to resist their agenda with every ounce of intellectual energy we can muster. And if that means I risk being branded a “racist” (even though Islam is a religion not a race — so the “racist” tag is technically wrong anyway) then that is just the way it must be.
Millions of Muslims didn’t just waltz into Britain or Australia - they’re here because our ‘elites’ rewrote our immigration laws to let them in.
I’m amazed at people who have such severe cognitive dissonance that they think the very ‘elites’ who have sicced the Muslims onto us by allowing them into our countries are going to ‘protect’ us via a ‘war on terror’.
If our ‘elites’ had our best interests at heart there would be no Muslims in our countries to commit terrorism in the first place.
We must never forget WHO let them in and set them loose to prey upon us. If someone siccs a Doberman onto you do you blame the animal, or the man who sicced the animal onto you in the first place?
Our media will continue to be part of the problem.
Case in point from yesterday: Mark Steyn discusses these issues frankly.
ABC Interviewers stare at each other with incredulity and write him off as “so much hype, so little substance.” Perhaps they got him confused with Loewenstein…
#8 Is this the very Troy Cox who held so long and lonely a vigil at The Age’s “Your Say”, fending off delusional lunar moths armed only with the Lamp of Diogenes and a badminton racket?
The Troy Cox whose often published Letters to the Editor were often published?
I say, old stick, welcome!
(stopped looking at the Age, oh, about the time I found Blair, but remember you as a near daily contributor)
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 28 at 02:10 AM • permalink#11 Slammer,
I agree. Any ladies out there want to carry the seed of Daniel San?.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 08 28 at 03:07 AM • permalinkIt’s actually success of the frank attitude of the pack-your-bags statements espoused by Howard, Costello and Downer that has given courage to overseas politicians to start taking a similar line.
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2006 08 28 at 03:10 AM • permalinkAndrea, I am sure I speak for all antipodean manhood when I say that you can run around our streets in a bikini any time you want.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 08 28 at 03:47 AM • permalink#4 Tell you what. Is it okay if I move to Saudi Arabia and started telling the people there to change their laws to allow me to run about the streets in a bikini and drive cars?—Posted by Andrea Harris
#5 You can say that people like this, who want to impose their cultural masochism on those not inclined to such perversions, are starting to make me a tad angry.—Posted by Andrea Harris
Why do I find this strangely titillating? (begin day dream about an angry woman in a bikini)
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 28 at 04:54 AM • permalink(stop day dream about Angry Andrea in her polka dotted bikini )
As far as I’m concerned, all citizens of any country should have to follow a fundamental rule. You can change the system but you can only do it in a democratic fashion. That means get a majority of your fellow citizens to agree with the changes.
Certain changes, of a far reaching maner and degree, cannot be made at the local level (such as adopting Sharia in small Muslim enclaves). They can only be done if an enabling law is passed at the national level. Changes of an especially fundamental nature must require a constitutional amendment. (Or whatever Great Britain has; Magna Carta?)
Anyone who objects to that and tries to change it by exhorting violent and oppressive actions should be deposited on the next banana boat to their homeland. And if they were born in their new country, they can still be boated back to the land of their father or grandfather.
One last recommendation. No more immigration from any countries experiencing terrorist problems with very limited exceptions. Such as persons who are successful hard-working people who will enthusiasticly embrace a just and democratic form of government and living.
This is good advice. I should be paid millions of dollars in oil vouchers for it.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 28 at 05:11 AM • permalinkYikes! The Italics are out! Please, someone help me scoop them back up before paco steals them, packages them, and markets it on late night TV!
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 28 at 05:14 AM • permalink“NEED”?? what the hell does need have to do with it Howzat?
Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 08 28 at 05:14 AM • permalinkIt’s not suspenders Howzat. It’s a garter belt, of a lacy fashion. Worn with stiletto high heels. And yet, I fear that we just broke five laws of Sharia by so much as thinking of this stuff. Unless the intimate apparel was worn by goats perhaps. I imagine that would be OK.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 28 at 05:21 AM • permalinkYAY! I did it! I locked up the italics!
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 08 28 at 06:37 AM • permalinkPerhaps Britain’s political leaders should make a collective apology to Enoch Powell.
Posted by Susan Norton on 2006 08 28 at 06:42 AM • permalinkItalics fixed. Sigh.
For revenge, I really should run about in a bikini, and then post the pictures. You may soon be having dreams of a different sort.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 28 at 06:59 AM • permalinkThe US has always made room (although sometimes reluctantly) for those who wanted to live apart and unassimilated, according to their own ethics and customs, as witness the Amish, American Indian tribes, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, and the like. But those groups still have to obey the civil laws of the larger society. It’s only one certain group of people (pigs be upon them) who want to impose their special ethics and customs on everyone else, by force if necessary. That’s unacceptable and it’s time we said so. Loudly and often.
#30 For revenge, I really should run about in a bikini, and then post the pictures.
Actually, it was all my fault Andrea. So if you feel a need to take revenge, I don’t think we need to involve anyone else here. Feel free to email me as many bikini photos has your anger deems necessary. If you’re not sure how many that would be, maybe you should estimate high.
I should also mention that photos of an angry woman wearing sexy black lingerie are also terribly vengeful.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 28 at 01:03 PM • permalinkRefreshing comment from Adele Horin on (last) Sunday Nights with John Cleary, local ABC radio,
I don’t know why we aren’t taking Islamists at their word that they want to establish the Caliphate.
Transcript or audio hopefully posted today…
http://www.abc.net.au/sundaynights/I can’t believe it! You treacherous hounds, wronwright and paco - I let the italics out! ME! Andrea! It’s all my fault! Commence punishment transmission, PLEASE!
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 08 28 at 06:12 PM • permalinkGee, I didn’t realize that cellulite and rolls of belly fat were such turn-ons for guys. I might even shave my legs! (Goes to check bandsaw for rust.)
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 28 at 08:54 PM • permalinkBut it’s not just anybody’s cellulite and belly fat, now, is it? No sirree, it’s the most merciless take-no-prisoners cellulite and belly fat on the planet. Okay, maybe there’s a little competition there from Amanda Vanstone…
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 08 28 at 09:18 PM • permalinkOkay. Leaving the Pimply Lovestruck Adolescent Zone…
now.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 08 28 at 09:32 PM • permalink
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