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A possible legal case against climate alarmism:

Central Florida’s most famous hotel owner, Harris Rosen, lashed out at hurricane expert Dr. William Gray for his gloomy storm predictions saying they have damaged state tourism.

Rosen said he believes Florida lost billions of dollars in business because of Gray’s outlook and even threatened a lawsuit.

“Look, doctor, you’ve made these forecasts and you were wrong once,” Rosen said. “You made the forecast and you were wrong twice. Are you going to continue to make these forecasts?”

Interestingly, Dr Gray is a Gore sceptic. Nevertheless, writes Dan Moffett - with stats to suppport his claim - “it’s time to officially depose William Gray as the nation’s foremost tropical storm forecaster.” Back to Rosen:

The hotel mogul said surveys show 70 percent of guests not returning to his hotels cited hurricane fears as the reason why.

Perhaps Rosen will also challenge hurricane-booster Tim Flannery. It does seem a little unfair that hotel owners lose all that business while warmenists are cashing in:

“So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

Posted by Tim B. on 12/02/2007 at 10:58 AM
  1. When it comes down to lying and scaremongering, Mr. Flannery, the answer is no.  You’re not supposed to make a living that way.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 12 02 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  2. In the old days, hurricane forecasters packed heat so nobody argued with them.

    That was back when hurricanes were properly named after women, owing to the resemblance.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 12 02 at 11:15 AM • permalink

  3. “So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

    To paraphrase Rebecca, try earning an honest living, Flim Flam Man.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 12 02 at 11:39 AM • permalink

  4. Our Company is Born…

    “Understand that back then [1974] the Middle East had essentially shut off the United States in terms of oil supply. The vast majority of hotels in Orlando were bankrupt or closed, and here I was buying a hotel in the midst of this chaos, and getting guests to stay at the hotel was very difficult. I remember I used to stand right at the entrance ramp to the hotel and literally pray that somebody would turn in and come on to our property. Just try to draw them in with my mental powers that I might have possessed. It was very difficult to do that, and so very early on after I had acquired the property for a week, I knew that standing there begging for business was not the appropriate thing to do. So I packed a little bag, got out on I-4 and said that I was going to hitch hike to New England where I knew there were dozens and dozens of motor coach operators who came to Orlando. And so we got a ride almost all the way up to New England, kept hitch-hiking until finally we got to meet with motor coach companies. I would strike a deal with the president or the chief operating officer of the company. I had my little business cards, I would ask what rate do they want to stay with us. They would say $8 or $9 or $7; I would write the rate down, the name of the company on the business card, sign my name and that was the contract. And I probably signed 11 or 12 contracts that way. Some of these guys were so kind—they felt so sorry for me—that they would actually drive me to my next appointment in their buses. So I didn’t hitch-hike much around New England because I had all of these wonderful Motor Coach guys who were getting these terrific rates at my hotel, and they were really very generous and gracious in showing me around New England in these Motor Coaches. When I finished, what was probably around 5 days, I literally had enough business to sustain us for that first year. I did not hitchhike back—I flew back—so excited and thrilled that I had accomplished my mission. And the truth is that many of those New England Motor Coach operators remain today as our clients. And of course they have expanded tremendously, from 1 or 2 buses to Orlando—some are now up to 20 or 30 buses to Orlando. It was one of those quirks of faith that led me to do what I did. Clearly a ridiculous attempt to market the hotel, but at that moment the only opportunity I thought that presented itself for me to get off my chair, go to where the business was, and try to convince people to use our hotel. And it worked very well.

    Harris always seems to be bitching about something.

    Harris Rosen

    Harris, hitchhike to Wyoming. Better yet, move your damn rental establishments there.

    Then you can piss and moan about, snow and missed prognostications about it, road closures, rock slides, the gray wolves, bear, people asking “where is Wyoming” and a whole host of other things.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 12 02 at 11:49 AM • permalink

  5. Tourists are afraid to visit Florida for a few days because their vacation just might coincide with a hurricane. I, on the other hand, have lived here all my life. Verdict: Floridians rule. Fear us, weather wimps!

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 12 02 at 01:39 PM • permalink

  6. Oh, right, Andrea.  I live in Washington State, where everybody not native to Alaska or the Dakotas fears to tread.

    “Aaaaagh!  What’s this water falling from the sky?” shriek the Californians.

    “Holy jeez, it must be - what? Fifty degrees or something!  We’re all gonna die!” shriek the Californians and Floridoons.

    Incidentally, that’s fifty actual degrees for you metric guys.  I mean Foreign Hat, not Centipede.  In the latter, fifty is something like, uh, 12 Kelvin.  Or something.

    And “Mohammed H. Prophet, do you have any apostates I may behead or Joooos I may explode?” ask the Moose Limbs.  But they ask that everywhere so I guess it really doesn’t count.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 12 02 at 01:54 PM • permalink

  7. Top Ten reasons not to visit Florida:

    10.Hurricanes
    9.Humidity
    8. Goofy drivers
    7. Mosquitoes
    6. Snakes
    5. Palmetto bugs (You don’t want to know.)
    4. Roads constantly under construction
    3. Thunderstorms
    2. Radar speed traps

    And… The Number One…

    1. A*****e hotel Operators

    Posted by ErnieG on 2007 12 02 at 02:02 PM • permalink

  8. Well I sympathize with the guy. He’s got a point.

    But he should be a bit more entrepreneurial (difficult to spell) and sell eco-adventure tours to Florida in September, height of hurricane season, to enviro-mentalists.

    “Experience the raw power of nature unleashed by global warming. Fly through the air with no carbon-guilt”

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 12 02 at 04:39 PM • permalink

  9. “So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

    Fortune telling by cards, tea leaves and crystal ball gazing was de-criminalised decades ago here, so Flim Flam Tim is quite legal.

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 12 02 at 04:45 PM • permalink

  10. PS Andrea, I still don’t understabnd why at the foot of each comment page, there is an advert for an Ode to the BBC on Wikipedia.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 12 02 at 04:46 PM • permalink

  11. There’s a bunch of people that like to spend their vacation chasing tornadoes around Tornado Alley.

    Rosen needs to pitch the thrill of “hurricane chasing”, to attract the thrill seekers to his hotels in Florida.

    Be Blown Away During Your Stay!”

    Posted by rinardman on 2007 12 02 at 05:15 PM • permalink

  12. “So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’

    If he had said, “So I’m not supposed to make a killing?” I’d respect him a lot more…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 12 02 at 06:00 PM • permalink

  13. #12 Exactly. Flannery finally reveals he’s in it for the money.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 12 02 at 06:25 PM • permalink

  14. earn a living

    That would depend on your definition of “earn”, which appears to be grossly different to mine, Mr Flim-Flam.

    Posted by kae on 2007 12 02 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  15. Steve
    283K; or 10C.
    And the sun shines by appointment only.

    Cheers

    Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 12 02 at 08:28 PM • permalink

  16. Wimpy Canadian: it’s the code used to format text in the comment box: “BBCode” aka “Bulletin Board Code.” Click and see!

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 12 02 at 09:10 PM • permalink

  17. Well, I disagree with Dan Moffett about Dr gray.  He may have been out in his forecasts a bit recently, but how does he perform compared with every other forecaster?  As for the argument about being better off picking averages, in the long run he is correct (because they are averages!), but what about the coming season?

    Posted by entropy on 2007 12 02 at 10:36 PM • permalink

  18. #7 Top Ten reasons not to visit Florida

    Exactly!  DO NOT VISIT FLORIDA.  IT IS A HORRIBLE PLACE TO VISIT.  YOU WILL BE MISERABLE!

    How did I do Andrea?  Think that will keep them off I-4?

    Posted by ruskinrip on 2007 12 03 at 08:09 AM • permalink

  19. Suing the weatherman for an incorrect forecast—good luck with that.

    Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2007 12 03 at 09:14 AM • permalink

  20. The hotel mogul said surveys show 70 percent of guests not returning to his hotels cited hurricane fears as the reason why.

    Mmm, sorry to contradict, but when prices rise as they have over the past 5-10 years of economic prosperity, customers will usually cite some reason other than cost so as not to look cheap before their questioners.

    Posted by Rittenhouse on 2007 12 03 at 11:22 AM • permalink

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