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KNOCK AWAITED

Terrified of global warming, a coast dweller warns us to quit all the denialism:

So Tim and Andrew - put a sock in it or I will be knocking on your doors when increasingly severe storms, flooding and saltwater inundation make it imperative that I have help in stacking sandbags around my house.

You’ll note that this believer hasn’t already moved to higher ground. Let ‘em drown, I say.

Posted by Tim B. on 03/08/2008 at 09:33 PM
  1. As usual Tim and Andrew have not allowed facts to get in the way of a sensationalised blog, showing a propensity to confuse relatively short-term observable weather patterns with real evidence against global warming.

    Exactly so, “waterdragon”.  So may I call upon your global-warming-believing self to come shovel the two-foot snowdrifts out of my driveway?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 03 08 at 10:00 PM • permalink

  2. Count me in. “When” the armageddon of global climate catastrophe is upon us, I’ll be there piling up sandbags, apologising for thinking it would never happen.
    Until then, though, piss off. It’s never going to happen, you idiot.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 08 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  3. Oh and “WaterDragon,” if you stumble upon this thread, let’s talk about your tired old graph showing temperature going up. here are some talking points.
    a) what’s the evidence that carbon dioxide is doing that? (hint: there isn’t any)
    b) what’s the evidence that the slight increase in temperature, less than a degree, is even a bad thing?
    c) look closely at your graph. why did temperature drop during the post-war economic boom, despite massive increases in carbon dioxide output?
    d) if you really believe all this disaster scenario b.s., why are you using electricity and living near the coast?

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 08 at 10:13 PM • permalink

  4. Such a pessimist ,When the next ice age hits hes going to have a lot of land between his house and the ocean.

    Posted by raider580 on 2008 03 08 at 10:18 PM • permalink

  5. Oooh. Pretty graph. Explains it all really. Stop denialising, or he’ll come over to your place in his rowboat and, and, and… howl at the moon.

    Sure. Whatever.

    #3 (d) where were these temperatures taken, how was this “average” extrapolated?

    Temperatures rise (and fall) during the year, due to seasonal effects, between minus 3 Degrees Celsius to plus 44 degrees Celsius.
    Nothing’s gone extinct from that here yet.
    I will believe global warming when we have to sandbag the beaches… and you know something? If you look at the facts on the ocean rising it hasn’t for hundreds of years, I think this waterdragon watch that doco that the televised the other night, what was it called? Oh yes, The Day After Tomorrow.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 08 at 10:24 PM • permalink

  6. As I write this there have been six comments on this topic. That is six comments more than waterdragon has received to any of his topics at his blog.

    Success at last.

    Posted by Contrail on 2008 03 08 at 10:29 PM • permalink

  7. It seems that northcoastvoices has just happened to discover that recently wind and rain cause erosion, and heavy rain cause floods in low-lying areas.

    I believe history is not taught nowadays, which may explain the ignorance of northcoastvoices.

    At bom.gov.au flood, we can read:

    Few parts of the country are immune from flooding

    and at: bom.gov.au drought

    Drought is also part and parcel of life in Australia

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 08 at 10:31 PM • permalink

  8. So Tim and Andrew - put a sock in it or I will be knocking on your doors when increasingly severe storms, flooding and saltwater inundation make it imperative that I have help in stacking sandbags around my house.

    You know what I’d do, Tim and Andrew? I’d leave his sorry ass out there in the rain, pressin’ his soggy face against your window like the little match girl. Haw! ‘Course, ya’ll might wanna sic the the dogs on ‘im if ya git tarred ‘a all that knockin’, or maybe even git down the double-bar’l and give ‘im a’ load a’ rock salt in the behind. Thass the gret thang ‘bout livin’ in a free country like the USA or Australia - ya got options!

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 08 at 10:40 PM • permalink

  9. Hmmm. That’s weird. I coulda sworn Dave’s comment was already there before I posted mine.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 08 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  10. See? Dave’s comment is getting pushed down to most recent! Oh no! Global warming’s true! The equilibrium of the comment section has been knocked outta whack!

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 08 at 10:47 PM • permalink

  11. Ask not what you can do for your country.  Ask what Tim and Andrew can do for you.

    Posted by Carl H on 2008 03 08 at 10:48 PM • permalink

  12. Something has messed up the logical Algorerithm!  Aiiieee!  Revenge of the drowning polar bears!

    Posted by Carl H on 2008 03 08 at 10:51 PM • permalink

  13. In other words - “I’m powerless to move to another location, so I’ll demand that hardworking, manly conservatives work to save me, for free.”

    Pretty much sums up leftist philosophy.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 03 08 at 10:51 PM • permalink

  14. I dunno, Dave S, it appears you can move thru time and space at Tim’s blog….

    Did you give the keys to the tardis back? Spill it, man.

    Spooky possums!

    Anyway, Dave S, with this new-found talent you should easily avoid the rising waters of Global Warmening.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 08 at 10:58 PM • permalink

  15. Totally OT, but did anyone pull a Zombietime.com and photo the nekked bike riders?

    Posted by rabidfox on 2008 03 08 at 10:58 PM • permalink

  16. Hmm, wonder if he would agree to swapping houses.  And pay a premium for ‘not at risk from sea level rises” housing?

    Posted by entropy on 2008 03 08 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  17. I’ve been shovelling global warming all day, and evening, long.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2008 03 08 at 11:18 PM • permalink

  18. I live at the 500 foot line.  And being a Republican, and living in rural America, I believe that the Second Amendment means exactly what it says.

    So waterdragon and his pals better be packing some serious heat if they think to muscle in on my mountain fastness.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2008 03 08 at 11:26 PM • permalink

  19. Where is King Canute when you need him.

    Posted by Howzat on 2008 03 08 at 11:35 PM • permalink

  20. When you can buy absolute water frontage on Port Phillip Bay for under $3,000,000 then I’ll believe GW is nigh.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2008 03 09 at 12:06 AM • permalink

  21. I notice that the only provision this Einstein is making for the coming Days of Doom is to try to get some of his own back from those who have pissed him off by not readily agreeing with his obvious brilliance.  Or something.  If I really believed this stuff, I’d be packing my stuff and moving inland, instead of wasting my time making things worse by using a computer just so I could parrot the trite bloviations of my betters.  I’m just sayin’.

    Posted by saltydog on 2008 03 09 at 12:18 AM • permalink

  22. #13 Like most of his kind, he’s still got plenty of time to do something about his living position, but not enough sense
    Far better to feel the anticipatory itch of becoming a victim and wanting someone else to literally bail him out.

    Such people are pathetic whingers, and there are bucketloads of them [to coin a phrase].

    Posted by Barrie on 2008 03 09 at 12:21 AM • permalink

  23. I’m a great believer in global warming. The nearest bit of open sea is 5 hours away by car. It would good if it was closer.

    Posted by Contrail on 2008 03 09 at 12:27 AM • permalink

  24. #6 contrail; he’s got a few now; they all think he is a turd. God I’m sick of all these warmists; don’t they realise if the water does rise we’ll all look like kevin costner does in ‘Waterworld’?

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 09 at 12:51 AM • permalink

  25. #24 I don’t think he’s a turd, I just think he’s wrong.
    If I thought Tim Blair was destroying my house, I’d be pretty angry about it too.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 09 at 01:05 AM • permalink

  26. The Bell Rock Lighthouse was built around 1810 on the highest available land point for miles around. Well, just take a look at it now, denialists!

    Posted by splice on 2008 03 09 at 01:22 AM • permalink

  27. I can smell the mungbeans and tofu from here.
    Sod off, swampy.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2008 03 09 at 01:22 AM • permalink

  28. Waterdragon? Waterworld? You’d think that someone who lives near the beach and names themself after a creature that lives it’s entire existence around the stuff wouldn’t be so shit-scared by it. Still, as kae stated above, apparently a +/- 50C temperature range across a 12 month period is an easy thing to master. It’s the long-term variant of 0.6C per century that’s going to do mankind in.

    You’d swear this dipshit has thought the argument through with unparalled logic like that. What a maroon ...

    Posted by CB on 2008 03 09 at 01:25 AM • permalink

  29. #26 How did I guess that was you?

    That’s an amazing piece of engineering… Did you see the series on the ABC? The BBC series is available on DVD.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 09 at 01:30 AM • permalink

  30. The Bell Rock? Now we know why it’s damned impervious to the weather. It’s modelled on another designed by The Smeaton!

    “The lighthouse was built by Stevenson between 1807 and 1810. The lamp was first lit on 1 February 1811. The design has some similarities to the earlier Eddystone Lighthouse designed by John Smeaton which was also built on an offshore reef using interlocking stones, but also contained newer features, such as rotating lights alternating between red and white.”

    Get orf ma rock, or I’ll set about ye!

    Posted by CB on 2008 03 09 at 01:31 AM • permalink

  31. More about The Bell Rock Lighthouse.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 09 at 01:33 AM • permalink

  32. I think waterdragon should stay out of the water.

    He’s already much too wet.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 09 at 01:34 AM • permalink

  33. #31 & #32 Maybe The Bell Rock could be copied and flown to help our poor northcoastvoices when the waters rise up.

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 09 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  34. #33 They’ll need something to cling to up that way stakka, goodness knows it won’t be clear-headed logic.

    Posted by splice on 2008 03 09 at 03:06 AM • permalink

  35. Look people, I know ya’ll don’t believe what can happen when the water rises.  I live on a boat and can tell you that I can see the water rise, and then fall, and then rise again by several feet twice a day!!!!!!  It’s scary, I tells ya.  That’s why I live on a boat.  I don’t have to worry about the water messing with my head. 

    If you really want the adrenaline to flow, you ought to be around the there’s a full moon, especially a couple of times a year when it really affects the water pouring into (and out of, and then into again) the basin where I live.  Even though I’ve experienced this phenomenon for most of my life, I still worry that NEXT time, I’ll drown.  There’s Hume to consider, you know.

    P.S.  Unfortunately sandbags don’t do me much good.

    Posted by saltydog on 2008 03 09 at 03:14 AM • permalink

  36. #30 CB

    The Bell Rock? Now we know why it’s damned impervious to the weather. It’s modelled on another designed by The Smeaton!

    Get orf ma rock, or I’ll set about ye!

    LMAO! That’s damned funny. Bravo, CB!

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 09 at 03:31 AM • permalink

  37. Oh, another leftie envirotard outraged by denialism?  Zzzzzzzzz…........

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 09 at 03:35 AM • permalink

  38. #25; that would be Kanute the Blair, I suppose?

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 09 at 03:48 AM • permalink

  39. #38
    As opposed to Knut, the Poley Bleair?

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 09 at 04:04 AM • permalink

  40. #38 legendary because in wikipedia Popular culture

    In modern days, he is perhaps most famous as the subject of a legend concerning an attempt either to turn the tide, or demonstrate the impossibility of doing so, for the benefit of fawning courtiers.

    We fawning courtiers blairites?

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 09 at 04:48 AM • permalink

  41. #40 the Canute legend has been distorted. He did stand and command the tide to turn back, but it was a joke at the expense of his fawning courtiers.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 09 at 05:31 AM • permalink

  42. I agree Kae. It seems Waterdragon understands one dimension of one source of information. He trumpets this so it makes him sound up to speed and then sits back incapable of adding to his thin argument.

    He’s a bit like Bryla. But to give Bryla credit, he bounces back with a point of view. Even though it’s no less flaky.

    Now that the fearful Waterdragon is blaming everyone else before the supposed final damnation happens, it indicates he lost control of his own life some time ago.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 03 09 at 05:46 AM • permalink

  43. #39, 40, 41; I’m confused; is waterdragon a fawning courtier, are Blair boggers distorted, is Blair all wet and what the hell does this nut knut have to do with the whole furglingshur mess?

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 09 at 06:33 AM • permalink

  44. Knut? Uh-oh, waterdragon’s going to be attacked by polar bears, too? Some lefties just can’t catch a break…

    Posted by PW on 2008 03 09 at 07:09 AM • permalink

  45. #43
    No-ah Ar-k
    two by two

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 09 at 07:17 AM • permalink

  46. Paco 9:

    Hmmm. That’s weird. I coulda sworn Dave’s comment was already there before I posted mine.

    Stay calm, citizen.  That happens around here twice a year, at DST changeover times.  It is not, repeat NOT a side-effect of any Tardis-related Wronwrightian malfeasanse.  So far as I can prove, anyway.

    Posted by formerly Huck Foley on 2008 03 09 at 11:54 AM • permalink

  47. He wants to be sandbagged, Tim. I say go ahead.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 03 09 at 12:09 PM • permalink

  48. And take his house when the waters recede.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2008 03 09 at 12:15 PM • permalink

  49. #46: Well, ok, then. I thought maybe it was sunspots or something.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 09 at 12:52 PM • permalink

  50. Waterdragon, translated

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2008 03 09 at 02:22 PM • permalink

  51. Behold my temporal superpowers and despair!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 03 09 at 02:38 PM • permalink

  52. #46

    Tardis-related Wronwrightian malfeasanse

    That’s still a convenient answer to the unexplained, regardless.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 09 at 03:32 PM • permalink

  53. Don’t tell me that former ACTU comissar Combet is worried about his recent $1 million purchase of beachside property.

    Kyoto Kev not having much luck converting the Comrades.

    Posted by watty on 2008 03 09 at 07:00 PM • permalink

  54. #53
    New natural disaster plans to be put in place

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 09 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  55. Its probably safe to say that the global warmening scare will start to wear out its welcome over the next 2 years or so.

    The great question that faces us is, of course, what will be the next ‘impending apocalypse’ and how do we get in on it at the ground level?

    Ideas please people, there is a LOT of money to be made here.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2008 03 09 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  56. #55 -

    Well, nuclear winter, overpopulation, acid rain, hole in the ozone, Y2K, SARS, and global warming have all been done. 

    Alien invasion?

    Frankenfood-created zombies?

    Nanobot replicators replacing people?

    Or maybe a misogynistic, neo-Molochian death cult butchering people in a mad quest for world domination?  Nah ... nobody would ever believe that.

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 03 10 at 01:38 AM • permalink

  57. #56 I pick Frankenfood Zombies. It’s the best one to attack capitalism, which is the point after all.

    Posted by dean martin on 2008 03 10 at 02:40 AM • permalink

  58. Hmmm I think we are onto something, the GE crops were a bit of a scare for a while, but it could really be pushed as the left runs out of steam on warmening.

    So far I like Frankenfood Zombies, but we’ll have to ‘science the name up’ for the kick off (later the popular name can come in), I think some sort of pseudo GE foods - uber BSE linkage might be a really viable next apocalypse.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2008 03 10 at 06:36 AM • permalink

  59. BSE?

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 03 10 at 05:46 PM • permalink

  60. How about “The Transgenic Threat?”

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 03 10 at 05:48 PM • permalink

  61. #59 BSE
    Mad Cow Disease (Basal Spongiform Encephalopathy - can’t be bothered checking the spelling, I’m sick!) CJD is the human form.

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 10 at 06:48 PM • permalink

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