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Red state/blue state differences noted:

Children exposed to intense urban air pollution while in the womb are 2.9 times more likely to be developmentally disabled at age 3, a New York study says.

The Columbia University research found 42 of 183 children exposed to the highest level of exhaust fumes from vehicles and power plants scored an average 5.7 points lower on cognitive tests administered at age 3.

Hmm. It’s possible inner-city types may be inclined towards idiotic environmentalism due to their brains being polluted.

Posted by Tim B. on 05/31/2006 at 12:18 PM
  1. So that‘s what’s wrong with the inner-city “education system”: They’re stupefied before they even start….

    (I don’t know what excuse that gives the teachers, tho….)

    Posted by Challeron on 2006 05 31 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  2. My Brooklyn born and raised, Long Island dwelling mom was in the hospital on election day.  She called me because she was “afraid that Kerry might win and it was too late to get an abentee ballot.”  She wanted me to speak to the nurse to have a taxi or an ambulette take her to her polling place.

    I told her know, Kerry was going to easily win New York, her Congressman was going to not quite as easily get re-elected, and that she should rest.

    She is also a woman who when Hillary Clinton was announced the winner in the Senate race, she went into the den, closed the shudders and lights and sat there quietly in the dark for 15 minutes (my Dad called—he was afraid she was not going to come out).

    Posted by Room 237 on 2006 05 31 at 12:38 PM • permalink

  3. #2: I like your mom, Room 237. Still fighting the good fight!

    Posted by paco on 2006 05 31 at 12:54 PM • permalink

  4. Children exposed to intense urban air pollution while in the womb are 2.9 times more likely to be developmentally disabled at age 3, a New York study says.

    Let’s see now….What does this tell us about the parents? Unless of course, one posits that all this urban air pollution started with George Bush 41….skipped Billy and Al and commenced again when George Bush 43, was as Al (as he snickers and sneers the words I own a bunch of friggin’ stock in Occidential Petroleum) would say “selected”.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 05 31 at 12:57 PM • permalink

  5. #4: Ah, pollution-damaged minds unto the tenth generation. Very sad. So, why should a liberal and, therefore, presumably “green” state have such bad, capitalist, Republican air?

    Posted by paco on 2006 05 31 at 01:01 PM • permalink

  6. Which Australian states are red/blue? (Green/yellow?)

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 05 31 at 01:05 PM • permalink

  7. Whuuuuuuuuuuuuh? I don geddit.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 05 31 at 01:57 PM • permalink

  8. #3—

    Unfortunately, she passed away soon after.  There was nothing really that wrong with her, she just missed my Dad.  After 45 years of marriage, she still deeply loved him.  After he died, she could no longer live without him.  She died one year to the day after my Dad.

    Posted by Room 237 on 2006 05 31 at 01:57 PM • permalink

  9. Until I know the protocols of this study, I’ll take it with a grain of salt.  Also, it could apply to any large city in any state, not just New York.  Supposedly any study by a prestigious East Coast university would take everything into consideration, including all the other problems that inner city children face.  But then again… university… East Coast… etc.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 05 31 at 02:12 PM • permalink

  10. I’m sorry, but this is just stupid.
    This is algore-lite.

    I suppose that the other 141 kids lived near E-85 stations.

    5.7 lower than WHAT!!?

    How many of the 141 scored 5.7 point higher than WHATEVER?

    Would 42 of 183 kids living in Glendive, Montana or No Wood, Wyoming score 5.7 points lower than WHATERVER?

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 05 31 at 02:13 PM • permalink

  11. 7. (I’m assuming it’s 6 you’re questioning): Australian teams play in green and yellow colo(u)rs.

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 05 31 at 02:19 PM • permalink

  12. I think there may be another factor they’re not taking into account.  Hmm, let’s see, what genetic factor could correlate with a cognitive deficit?

    Posted by robert speirs on 2006 05 31 at 02:32 PM • permalink

  13. #12,

    That moonbats give birth to moonbats?

    Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2006 05 31 at 03:06 PM • permalink

  14. Hmmmm.

    Something tells me that the major problem discovered by this study ... is the study itself.

    Posted by memomachine on 2006 05 31 at 03:07 PM • permalink

  15. The US has experienced 30+ years of continuously cleaner air, so if the premise of the study (diminished cognition) is correct, there should be an inordinate number of cognitively disabled adults as a result of having experienced in-utero exposure to massively higher levels of urban air pollution over the past 4+ decades.

    In fact, given the improving air quality in the developed world over the past 3 decades (London’s air quality is the best in 400 years), and given the premise of the study, people (generally) should be getting smarter, as copared to earlier cohorts.

    Scientific assumptions often don’t make common sense—this one doesn’t even pass the smell test!

    Posted by Forbes on 2006 05 31 at 03:09 PM • permalink

  16. #12, robert spears,

    I don’t know.  What genetic factors correlate with a cognitive deficit?

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 05 31 at 03:11 PM • permalink

  17. #8: That’s a beautiful (but sad) story. One prays that they’re now united in a love that “knows not death”.

    Posted by paco on 2006 05 31 at 03:14 PM • permalink

  18. Well said Paco, well said.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 05 31 at 04:19 PM • permalink

  19. Thanks paco.  I am still sad (and more than a year later my eyes tear when typing it) but not as sad as when my Dad died.  My Mom really died the day my father passed and she never started to live again. 

    The really strange and scary thing was towards the end, as she slipped in and out of it, she started speaking in Italian to me (she never did, as she spoke a dialect and I learned my bad but proper Italian in school).

    Posted by Room 237 on 2006 05 31 at 04:48 PM • permalink

  20. #6

    Which Australian states are red/blue? (Green/yellow?)

    Our Federal elections are determined on an electorate by electorate basis, not on states won. Eg, if the Coalition (like the GOP) wins 100 electoral seats and Labor (like the Dems) wins 90, the Coalition forms the government and elects the Prime Minister from among it’s Parliamentary members.

    At the moment, all our State Governments are Labor Governments, but it seems to have little bearing on Federal outcomes.

    We have areas that traditionally vote for one party all the time, known as “safe seats”. Seats that change hands regualarly are known as “swinging seats”. Part of the reason the Coalition keeps winning Federal elections is that working class areas, formerly safe for Labor, have swung to the Liberal (Howard’s) Party.

    Oh, and to further complicate things, Labor, being left, is represented by the colour red, while the coalition is represented by (Royal) blue.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 31 at 05:13 PM • permalink

  21. Room

    There is nothing easy concerning death, for those that are survivors to the death or deaths of loved ones.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 05 31 at 05:23 PM • permalink

  22. 20. Thank you for the explanation. Is Queensland more blue, Sydney/NSW more red?

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 05 31 at 05:23 PM • permalink

  23. Queensland is traditionally a more conservative state.  Sydney, Newcastle and Wollongong are certainly inhabited by a high concentration of left wing types - from the working class die hards to loony-left pinko-poofo-lezzo-greeno types.  The rest of NSW has traditionally been poltically conservative.  However, in recent years the Western part of Sydney, which for 100 years was a power base for the left, has been voting conservative.  Similarly a couple of coastal areas of NSW which have forever been staunchly conservative have experienced a massive influx of hippies, bludgers, druggos and, most significantly, Mastercard Marxists and Champagne Socialists.  This has resulted in several seats, held by conservative parties since federation, to be held by the ALP.

    Posted by murph on 2006 05 31 at 05:41 PM • permalink

  24. Thank you for the explanation. Is Queensland more blue, Sydney/NSW more red?

    Queensland, being about mainly farming and mining, tends to be conservative, except for the south-east (cityfied) corner.

    NSW is a bit of a mixture. Rural areas tend to vote National Party (Coalition) and the old “steel cities”, Newcastle and Wollongong tend to vote Labor.

    In Sydney the richer areas such as the Eastern Suburbs and the Lower and Upper North Shore vote Liberal. The Inner City is full of socially aware yuppies, so it votes Labor and Green, generally. The main concern for Labor is the change of preference of a lot of their safe West and Inner West seats for the Liberal party.

    You might argue that the Liberal Party is now the “party of the workers”, while Labor tries to shore up the loss by coaxing the lefty minorities into their camp.

    As your own Democratic party found, wooing a majority of minorities will still not beat the middle.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 05 31 at 05:47 PM • permalink

  25. I wish pollution could be blamed for the red/blue division.  Sadly, while the root cause is probably environmental, it’s more likely the screwball and self-hating cultural environment created and nurtured by a gaggle of leftoid idiots.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 31 at 06:26 PM • permalink

  26. Continuing chinesearithmatic’s Australian psephological education.

    An odd feature of the Oz political scene in the past 5 to 7 years is that ALL the State and Territory governments are Labor (maybe the NT govt has been Labour for only 3 years).  Yet the same population has elected JoHo and his conservative government 4 times in a row.

    The ‘common wisdom’ is that the population wants a bit each way.  A conservative federal govt looking after defence, border security, the economy, national social issues), but more ‘progressive’ State governments.

    Also some ‘fear’ as to what Labor would do if in total control of the country (imagine the Democrats in EVERY state and the White House!).

    A big factor also is that the State liberals have had a succession of dingbats as leaders & there is almost constant in-fighting.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 05 31 at 07:02 PM • permalink

  27. #9 & 10

    Rebecca/YoJimbo

    Agreed, this study reeks of having first reached a conclusion and only later going into the field to collect supporting evidence.

    There are too many variables at play to draw such a sweeping conclusion on just one set of them.

    Global Warming anyone?

    Imagine as well just how much more the rate of diagnosis for a disability (And all the accompanying state $cha-$ching that brings in per pupil) occurs in urban lefty victim enclaves than in does in the self-reliant red zones.

    This just in: Children living near lakes, rivers and swimming pools have a higher rate of drowning. Columbia study finds that Bush/Republican policys cause them to be poorer swimmers.

    ...or something.

    Posted by Thomas on 2006 05 31 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  28. there should be an inordinate number of cognitively disabled adults as a result of having experienced in-utero exposure to massively higher levels of urban air pollution over the past 4+ decades.

    Have you met Dennis Hastert?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 31 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  29. Have you met Dennis Hastert?

    Don’t even start. Manna from heaven and this guy thinks someone said heathen. I swear he felt up Pelosi, during their denunciation of the executive branch.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 05 31 at 08:38 PM • permalink

  30. OK. Well, that explains why Chicago makes Illinois a blue state, when it should really be red.

    Posted by rinardman on 2006 05 31 at 10:33 PM • permalink

  31. “Exposed to intense urban air pollution in the womb”
    Air pollution the womb? Well if Mom is stupid enough to straddle a bus exhaust I would guess DNA plays some small part in baby being like he is, huh? Limber little devil, though.

    Posted by kiwinews on 2006 05 31 at 11:23 PM • permalink

  32. “Exposed in the womb”!  That’s some long ceasarian, and why don’t they do them in the clean air of hospitals.

    I wonder if proximity to pollution is affected by wealth.  I expect the dirty places in New York have the cheaper property.

    Posted by pedro on 2006 06 01 at 12:39 AM • permalink

  33. This is another ideological cock-up.  A similar study 30-odd years ago about environmental lead reached similar but still entirely wrong conclusions.

    I’ll spell it out for the thicko authors. Look where the sample is drawn from. Intense urban air pollution, i.e., low rent rent disticts. Who lives in low rent districts? The urban underclass. What are characterisitics of this set? Poor health, poor employment records, lower intelligence, poor parenting - poor everything.

    You’ll get similar deficits in areas of high concentrations of urban poor anywhere, irrespective of pollution levels. Example: Wagga Wagga, where the delightful country air is crystal clear.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2006 06 01 at 05:01 AM • permalink

  34. 24, 26. In the 70s movie Newsfront, the great Bill Hunter admonishes his Pom assistant by saying that regarding John Curtin, you don’t get witty. Do we not get witty?

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 06 01 at 08:54 AM • permalink

  35. er, sorry chinesearithmatic - did I miss a tongue-in-cheek?

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 06 01 at 09:29 AM • permalink

  36. 35. Sorry for the obscurity. Is Curtin the Australian FDR, Churchill, etc.?

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 06 01 at 10:14 AM • permalink

  37. Hmmmm.

    Oh, and to further complicate things, Labor, being left, is represented by the colour red, while the coalition is represented by (Royal) blue.

    Actually I read somewhere that until recently the GOP was represented in blue and the Democrats were painted red.  Frankly I’ve been goofing off with politics for years and I never really noticed.

    Posted by memomachine on 2006 06 01 at 11:33 AM • permalink

  38. U.P.I.

    Children exposed to intense urban air pollution while in the womb

    Anybody who thinks they’ve got “intense urban air pollution” in NYC needs to spend some time in South Korea. 

    Anybody thinks they’ve got a linkage identified between “intense urban air pollution” and commonplace stupidity needs to spend some time reviewing all the factors they left out of the study:
    - all-sugar diet
    - imbecilic parents
    - too much GODDAMN television
    - imbecilic educators
    - crowding and the crime that goes with it
    - non-Mozart background music
    - etc etc etc
    I missed the paragraph where those factors, or ANY other factors, are logically or empirically ruled out as being causitive factors.  Of course, all I read is the UPI wire story, which is probably typically just a padded-out version of the paper’s abstract.
    Short version, bad science, filtered through bad journalism.  Insufficient skepticism, too.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 06 01 at 04:11 PM • permalink

  39. 36:  Curtin was Prime Minister during WW2 but died just before the end of the war.  The concensus seems to be that he did a good job when in an impossible position, at least without the support of the US, when the Japanese attacked.  (Also, Jap midget subs launched torpedos in Sydney harbour and the Japs bombed Darwin about 50 times.  many hundreds of casualties.  WW2 did come to the Australian mainland.) 

    When the war in the Pacific began he made no bones that Australia looked to the US and not the traditional ‘mother country’ England.  He had a major stoush with Churchill about the deployment of Australian troops returning from the Middle East - Churchill wanted them in Burma but Curtin made sure they returned to Australia to defend it.

    Possibly more FDR than Churchill but my WW2 history isn’t that flash.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 06 01 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  40. 34 It says that greeen and labor and doctors’ wives parents are stupid for paying zillions to aquire real estate tiny plots in the city.Anyone coulda worked that one out…

    Posted by crash on 2006 06 03 at 05:41 AM • permalink

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