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JUSTICE FOR JIHAD
Muslim convert Joseph Terrence Thomas—police be upon him—has been convicted of receiving funds from al-Qaeda. Thomas (who took the name “Jihad” ) had trained with the group in Afghanistan.
The maximum penalty he faces is 25 years; I’m tipping between five and 10.
police be upon him
...I’m going to go wipe off my monitor.
Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2006 02 26 at 01:18 AM • permalinkpolice be upon him
I think I just cracked a rib laughing at that!
=^D
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 02 26 at 01:32 AM • permalinkHrm… can we tatoo an image of Mohammed on his chest and release him at one of those peaceful Muslim riots?
Posted by MikeTheLibrarian on 2006 02 26 at 01:34 AM • permalinkI’m tipping between five and 10.
And out of prison in 18 months/non-parole/good jihad behaviour.Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2006 02 26 at 02:29 AM • permalinkI think that Australia’s mostly lost interest in this case after the media stopped calling this bloke “Jihad Jack” and everyone started wondering who Joseph Terrence Thomas was. I think that this happened less than a month after he was arrested.
They shouldn’t feel so reluctant to call someone by their adopted name. The media would never behave this way if a porno star were arrested for something, since it’d be much too fun to refer to them by their “stage name”. Why isn’t the same standard applied to lunatic Anglo-Australian renegades with adopted Arabic names?
Wouldn’t accepting money from a foriegn source (that wishes to establish the caliphate), to act against Australian interests, meet the strict definition of treason?
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 02 26 at 03:22 AM • permalinkMuslim’s conveying sympathy at time of hardship?
I’m sure it’s his girlfriend. HOT!
Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2006 02 26 at 03:39 AM • permalink5-10 years shoveling pig dung would be about right.
Posted by perfectsense on 2006 02 26 at 04:18 AM • permalinkMax of 3 years, appeal, conviction quashed, leftie judge awards compensation/pension of megabucks for emotional pain and suffering, Aussie taxpayer screwed again. Victorian court, don’t forget, and nobody hates our country as much as a Melbourne leftie.
Was his barrister Jeremy Sear ? (AKA mr Lefty, aka Melbourne lefty )
You can murder someone and get less than 5-7 years.
I bet y’all he’s out in eighteen months.Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2006 02 26 at 04:37 AM • permalinkThe justice system cannot deal adequately with these cases. Evidentiary rules are weighted too heavily towards the defendant. The facts are that he was there, training, in close proximity to OBL himself, and he still gets treated like he’s just a naughty boy.
Our legal system, along with many other HREOC-ish aspects of our society, are luxuries accorded to us in times of peace. At other times they are just a hindrance.Exactly, blogstrop #20!
For Christ’s sake, we’d still be finishing the Second World War if we had to put every fucking Nazi, captured enemy combatant or potential internee on trial, with all due process.
If we are at war (and I think we are, because our troops are deployed in harm’s way), then, unfortunately, due process goes out the window.
Idiots like David Hicks and old mate Jihad Jack do not deserve any legal protection from the very same societies that they *apparently* intend to destroy for the sake of Mohammedism.
We as a society must treat these fuckers on a war footing. There is no middle ground.
His lawyer was/is Rob Stary, or was it Lex Luther , sorry Lex Lasry, QC, or both…?
Ya gotta give the devil(s) their due…they’re bloddy good:
Remember last March…the Victorian Chief Magistrate found that Jack’s mental deterioration, the severity of his detention and his cooperation with the authorities amounted to “exceptional circumstances” and should therefore allow him to be released on bail.
That the same magistrate had turned down Jack’s first bail application so his change of mind is notable. Possibly the “vigils” held by tree huggers and apologists for for Islam made the difference. “Jack and the family are very concerned of the psychological effects of a return to detention after and independent psychiatrist found that his detention constitute what amounts to we he called secondary torture by reviving Jack’s experiences of isolation and torture in Pakistan”.
Shit, a weekend with my ex-wife he should be spending…Oy! now that’s torture!
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 02 26 at 06:34 AM • permalinkI just love the way he’s so smooth-cheeked, and got the sharp suit on. Looks like any Wespac worker.
The QC claiming the acquittal a victory. Hmm. Okay, he received funds from Al Qaeda, but he didn’t support them or help them. So why did he take the money for? To go Christmas shopping?
As for training in Pakistan and not doing any terrorist stuff. If you believe that one, I’ve got a bridge you might be interested in.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 02 26 at 06:45 AM • permalinkFor Christ’s sake, we’d still be finishing the Second World War if we had to put every fucking Nazi, captured enemy combatant or potential internee on trial, with all due process.
No, we won’t. If we had the same bunch of lefties dingbats and morons in charge of our media, law system and govts during WW2, we’d all be speaking German and Japanese today.
Posted by Wylie Wilde on 2006 02 26 at 07:06 AM • permalink#25 - Exactly.
As I understand it, the “War” on terror is, in fact, a “War”.
Under the provisions of the Geneva Convention, those enemy combatants caught fighting in civilian clothes are offered no protection, and can be treated as spies.
As such, they may be executed immediately. That is precisely why the articles of war were drafted. To prevent the enemy from using civilians as a shield.
If the insurgents don’t use a clearly identifiable uniform, they should be shot upon capture.
Posted by Mike Jericho on 2006 02 26 at 08:00 AM • permalinkWow, Jihad Joe, huh? I think we still have a G.I. Joe…and of course we have our ‘OWN’ Johnny Jihad who got 20 years, after it couldn’t be proven beyond doubt, that he, John Walker Lindh, actually killed or helped kill CIA officer, Johnny Michael Spann.
Someone should tell his Mom, that if ‘Jihad Joe’s’ side wins, she would be stoned to death for wearing something that seems to show a tad of cleavage.
And this is extremely important
Tell ‘Jihad’..coat sleeves should fall about five inches from the top of the thumb. Shirt sleeve cuffs should extend just below the wrist bone and extend about one-half inch below your suit coat sleeve.
The items above ALONE, should get him an extra 5 years…Gads.
The new Australian tourism advertisements (with the “Where the Bloody Hell are you? slogan) are too divisive.
I therefore propose a new campaign to unite us:
“Australia… We lock up terrorists and tell their sympathisers to fuck right off. Our political leaders have more balls than yours (even the women), and our girls look great in a swimsuit holding a beer”.
Whaddya reckon?
No wonder he looked so happy when he was told of the 72 virgins awaiting him…
Posted by Jim Geones on 2006 02 26 at 09:27 AM • permalinkNah,
out on bail and out of jail, that’s the way it goes…...white lines…...
Ya gotta lurve grandmaster flash and the furious five.
I bet he gets off with little punishment. 18 months tops.
After all just because Al Qaeda trained him, paid for his travel and sent him home doesn’t mean he intended working for Al Qaeda. It was work experience…honest.
Posted by platey mates on 2006 02 26 at 09:33 AM • permalinkJesus, you people are convicting terrorists of anything? How insensitive! I guess the Zionists control your juries, too.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 02 26 at 11:19 AM • permalinkPerhaps in the spirit of international cooperation, we could offer him accommodations at Gitmo. Although I do like MikeTheLibrarian’s suggestion. A lot.
police be upon him Still laughing
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 02 26 at 12:12 PM • permalinkHmmm.
“Justice for Jihad”?
Sounds like a good band name.
Posted by memomachine on 2006 02 26 at 12:37 PM • permalinkGiven the current philosophical-structure of our legal system, and given that he did this to himself, he will probably get <5 years - don’t forget he’s a victim!
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 02 26 at 05:54 PM • permalink#21 If we are at war (and I think we are, because our troops are deployed in harm’s way),
mate everytime you or a family member gets on a train or a bus or goes to the shopping centre - you are in harms way!!! - they always go after soft targets.
I agree with the rest he’ll get 18 mths, plus some kind of book deal, compo claim, or libel case that will make him rich.Posted by knuckleheadwatch on 2006 02 26 at 06:35 PM • permalinkJihad Jack, a traitor who planned with the most bloodthirsty barbarians on the earth to sneak into our homes cloaked in the blackness of night to slash the throats of our children and spouses and brothers and sisters and all that the judicial protectors of our loved ones can give him is (maybe) 20 years with 19 off for good behavior. What ever happened to hanging?
Great stuff, Splice. All you left out was, “But Ossifer, I did nuuthin’, mate.”
It’s about time the noble job of Hangman was reinstated on the government payroll to deal with these traitorous arseholes, especially given that we are at war.
It’s time for this generation to pump up and step up to the plate.
The Sydney Morning Herald,today, gives Jack a very sympathetic full page and concludes that instead of a plea of “not guilty” perhaps a plea of “naive,gullible and foolish” would have been appropriate.It reveals that young Jack was raised as an Anglican but “could not reconcile the fact that the Church was founded,as he put it,by a king with venereal disease who created his own religion of convenience”.Obviously no problem with religions founded by fanciers of 9 year old “brides” though.There’s a very fetching photo of Jack in his ballet gear,I predict he will go down extremly well in Pentridge.
#47 - My understanding is that they believe all people are born ‘muslim’ and just dont know it. So, a person who comes to islam is called a revert.
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2006 02 26 at 09:14 PM • permalinkI’m going to back away from my comment in #9 above. I’m not too sure now. The man is an fool but the prosecutors cant prove intention to commit a terrorist act. The penalty for the office (25 years) is indicative of parliamentary intention but the offence is at the extreme lower end of the spectrum (a few thousand dollars).
The man is an fool but the prosecutors cant prove intention to commit a terrorist act.
Joining a terrorist group is evidence of intent to commit terrorist acts. You don’t start hanging around with such people because you dig their hair.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 02 26 at 10:19 PM • permalink#51 He was convicted of receiving funds from al-Qaeda but the prosecutors can’t prove intention to commit a terrorist act. “A terrorist act” is one form of treason. Another is cooporating with the enemy in time of war. He certainly did that. Moreover, there are any number of ways the Muslim blood money could have been used to undermine the State. It is a sad commentary on the prosecutors that they could not have connected the dots and gotten him on treason. The DA in Brooklyn, NY would have had him begging for the hangman’s noose.
#52 IIRC being a member of al-Qaeda was not an offence at the time Jihad was a member. To charge for conspiracy to commit murder there needs to be a known target in Australia
#53 Another is cooporating with the enemy in time of war.
It takes more than that. I think you need to levy war against the Commonwealth.
Robert Crawford
The man is an fool but the prosecutors cant prove intention to commit a terrorist act.
Joining a terrorist group is evidence of intent to commit terrorist acts. You don’t start hanging around with such people because you dig their hair.
If I’m not mistaken, the Padilla and al-Arian court cases have determined that claim to be invalid.
I hope I’m wrong.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 02 26 at 11:13 PM • permalinkO/T i know people here sometimes refer to these islamic/M.E. types and their propensity for having relations with their farm animals (probably similar to new zealanders now i come to think of it??) but hears proof at last….
A MAN caught “in flagrante delicto” with a goat has been forced to marry the animal.
According to the local newspaper, The Juba Post, the goat’s owner, a Mr Alifi, caught his neighbour, Mr Tombe, assaulting his goat and reported the man to the local council of elders for adjudication.
“It was around midnight when Tombe came to do his nonsense on my goat, and I was already in bed inside my house,” Mr Alifi said.
“Suddenly I heard the goat make a loud noise. Immediately I rushed outside to find Mr Tombe was naked and engaged in a relationship with my goat. ” When I asked him what are you doing there, he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up. They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife.”
Mr Tombe agreed to pay a dowry of 150,000 Sudanese dinars ($125) for his new spouse.
“We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together,” Mr Alifi told the Post.
i mean as if more proof was needed, some of these people in these locales are SERIOUSLY weird….
“I only took money from Don Vito for my family officer”.
“I knew he was the don and I was at a mafia camp but I didnt intend to join after they said they might want me to do something unpleasant”
“So they said fine, no sweat, we dont mind you can ID us, our location and tactics, feel free to go sure you dont want a little more for the bambinos when you get home”?The above is the excerpts from the trial of Johhny “the emasculator” Jones forwarded from 2010. Johnny was freed and apologised to by the judge who awarded him $1,000,000 in damages to his reputation.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 02 27 at 05:01 AM • permalinkYawn. It’s been on for almost 15 minutes, and yup! It’s a whitewash.
Studied dance, then joined his brother’s punk band, helped out in soup kitchens. Very fair-minded and on a spiritual quest.
This is really nauseating stuff.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 02 27 at 05:46 AM • permalink#63
Yeah, I’m in Queensland, so I am an hour and 20 years behind….
Habib coined the name “Fucktard”. That’s Thomas.
He has admitted to a lot of stuff, but I can’t quite figure out if he’s stupid, or sly. Talks about his “Mooslum bros.” as innocents getting killed in Afghanistan after 9/11.
And he knew Hicks in Afghanistan. Hicks was a good bloke.
Turds.
Kae, there are no words for my disgust after watching this.
Normally you’d say if he had half a brain he’d be dangerous, but he’s an idiot who has Abu Bakir Bashir (sp?) as a family friend, hangs out with Jemaah Islamiya pals and goes to Afghanistan to help poor oppressed muslims.
Of course, the bombing of the USS Cole and 9/11 shocked him, but not enough to make him question islam.
He’s in transit with Al Qaeda operatives, and knows they are responsible for these, and still asks if he can help them in any way. Because he doesn’t want more terror attacks like those.
Riiiiiight. Sergeant Schultz he ain’t.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 02 27 at 07:38 AM • permalinkhe is a slimy sewer rat, but couldn’t stop his liar’s blink. that he wanted to fight with the taliban, and calls them & al quaeda members his brothers, says it all. and that brain dead family of his - no wonder steve bracks got into office if they are a measure of the average voter iq in williamstown
Pretty much damned himself out of his own mouth. Now seeing how he went back to fight Americans after 9/11 he has presumably committed treason as we (the Australia he would never harm) was on the side of the USA and had troops over there etc. Why no treason charge?
Posted by platey mates on 2006 02 27 at 09:07 AM • permalinkSome points that Robert Stary and his legal types should consider:
Using the law as the bedrock in the fight against terrorists is dangerous to the common good. The legal process does not prevent crime (except deterrence via punishment). Court based legal process is a post facto blame and punishment process.
It is almost always impossible to prove intent in advance of a crime condemning the community to a higher risk of attack.Terrorists consider themselves at war so we should apply a modified Geneva Convention. Terrorists fight outside the GC putting themselves beyond any law. The GC provides for legal indefinite detention, without visitors, lawyers or consular access until the war is over. It also specifically prohibits criminal charges being laid in civil courts. This would become defacto indefinite detention until Islam surrenders - no time soon. The adjustment should be to medically preserve the life of a detainee in all circumstances to avoid any martyrs.
Let them live in relative comfort but in isolation to die of old age suffering a lifetime of psychological torment.
Posted by platey mates on 2006 02 27 at 09:27 AM • permalinkOn whether joining a terrorist group is evidence of intent to commit terrorism:
If I’m not mistaken, the Padilla and al-Arian court cases have determined that claim to be invalid.
If so, then lawyers are dimwits who are dangers to society. The proposition is self-evident: if you decide to support/train with/assist people who commit terrorism, then you yourself are a terrorist.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 02 27 at 10:17 AM • permalink71. Agreed. It started all warm and fuzzy, which really got up my nose. The minute he opened his mouth, though, it was a different story.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 02 27 at 04:51 PM • permalink
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