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JUST ANOTHER MAINSTREAM LEFTIST OPINION

The Age’s Catherine Deveny:

One Nation is still around. Which is great news for all the white supremacists who just don’t find the Coalition racist enough for them.

The woman is insane.

Posted by Tim B. on 10/30/2007 at 05:03 PM
  1. The article is either bad comedy or she is the most bitter woman in Melbourne.

    Posted by lingus4 on 2007 10 30 at 05:16 PM • permalink

  2. What the hell?

    Who the hell asks for “minimum” chips?

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 10 30 at 05:19 PM • permalink

  3. She seems to be into electoral porn.

    There’s such a thing?

    Posted by genius on 2007 10 30 at 05:22 PM • permalink

  4. "What will we do after the election? What will they print in the paper? I can’t remember life before the election campaign. Were there trees? Did we wear shoes?"

    It wasn’t that long ago honey. Obviously The Age has significantly altered your recollection of events over time.

    Posted by genius on 2007 10 30 at 05:28 PM • permalink

  5. I think most Australians would look at you strangely if you suggested One Nation were NOT racist. And its no secret Howard adopted elements of One Nation’s policies.  After all, this is the government that will allow Neo-nazi bands into the country but ban the likes of Snoop Doggy Dog…

    Posted by R Gehlen on 2007 10 30 at 05:32 PM • permalink

  6. I observe this charming lass has also ordered two “dimmies”.  For our non Oz friends, a dimmie is a 2” long piece of the tail of a cat (preferably domestic variety), lightly seasoned, wrapped in dough and fried.

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 30 at 05:34 PM • permalink

  7. #6 Of course, the tail bone is extracted!!

    Surprising, so far PETA has let us get away with it!

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 30 at 05:37 PM • permalink

  8. Hello to Pauline if you’re reading and I’ll have one piece of flake, two dimmies and minimum chips.

    Ms Deveny’s sneering contempt for the views of others and of anything outside her sphere (probably two or three streets at the most) is really mind-boggling.

    Not only is she insane but she’s a truly disgusting human being.

    One Nation was one of the few parties to have threatened the status quo in recent years. As with most political parties, some of its ideas were off, but not all.  To dub it a party of white supremacists simply proves Ms Deveny’s own ignorance, not to mention her bias:

    "Supremacism (def.) : the belief that a particular race, religion, gender, belief system or culture is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not."

    What ho, Ms Deveny?

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 30 at 05:37 PM • permalink

  9. It’s tragic really. One look at the paper and you’d think that Burma was fine, Darfur was sorted and Britney had stopped flashing her bits every time she gets out of a car.

    And tell me, you stupid bint, as a journalist, who’s fault is it that these things are or are not newsworthy? What’s stopping you?

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 05:43 PM • permalink

  10. #5 Probably best not to think then Ghelen.

    Posted by lingus4 on 2007 10 30 at 05:46 PM • permalink

  11. #8

    One Nation was one of the few parties to have threatened the status quo in recent years. As with most political parties, some of its ideas were off, but not all.

    Thank you ann j, I am not alone here.

    Deveney banging on about the fish and chip shop owner is so last century. Ms Hanson is now frying bigger fish, so to speak.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 05:48 PM • permalink

  12. #5 Oh goodie, it’s another Hero… or the same one back.

    Is that pronounced “ray-shist”?

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 05:51 PM • permalink

  13. Why dont the racists just listen to communists like Julia Gillard and infiltrate the party:

    For the Left to make any real advance all these perspectives on the relationship to Labor in government need to be rejected in favour of a concept of strategic support for Labor governments. We need to recognise the only possibility for major social change is under a long period of Labor administration. Within that administration the Left needs to be willing to participate to shape political outcomes, recognising the need to except (sic) often unpalatable compromises in the short term to bolster the prospect of future advance. The task of pushing back the current political constraints by changing public opinion would need to be tackled by the Left through government, social movements and trade unions.

    Posted by Mattofact on 2007 10 30 at 05:54 PM • permalink

  14. #13
    Whatever it takes.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 05:56 PM • permalink

  15. #13&#14

    The long march continues....

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 10 30 at 05:58 PM • permalink

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    For Sale $888 888 Send Cheque to Tim B.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 10 30 at 06:05 PM • permalink

  17. #5

    Did I miss something?  Who were the “Neo-nazi bands” that this government allowed into the country?

    I thought that Snoop was banned because of his criminal record and his drug and firearm violations.  Did the bands also have a criminal history?

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 30 at 06:06 PM • permalink

  18. #17 I think he/she means this band.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 06:08 PM • permalink

  19. I reckon Deveny’s column is sort of a Left version of Tim’s column in the Daily Telegraph, (but not as good).

    Tongue firmly in cheek and actually quite humorous even if you don’t agree with the politics.

    Posted by closeapproximation on 2007 10 30 at 06:21 PM • permalink

  20. #19 she’s tongue in cheek ‘cause her head is wedged firmly up her arse

    Posted by larrikin on 2007 10 30 at 06:41 PM • permalink

  21. Deveny is not to be taken seriously. She’s good for a laugh, and that’s about it.

    Posted by Apple77 on 2007 10 30 at 06:45 PM • permalink

  22. God, this bitch would be a dream lay, huh?

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 10 30 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  23. Political correctness is great news for all the white supremacists on the Left who can treat the swarthier types as though they are equals ... rather than on merit, which they reserve for themselves.

    The PC mask quickly slips away when they are hoodwinked, as in the case of Norma Khouri et al

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 30 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  24. #2 Pog

    What the hell?
    Who the hell asks for “minimum” chips?

    A fat chick who wants to look like she’s dieting?

    ‘I’ll have a mountain of food ... and a diet coke/skim latte, please - gotta watch the weight ...’

    Fits the Left’s bandaid approach to everything, so long as they look like they’re doing something about the problem (e.g. granny wings).

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 30 at 07:03 PM • permalink

  25. Even if jaspan wanted to axe her, he couldn’t. She’s bigger than him and has more teeth.

    Posted by Phranger on 2007 10 30 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  26. Whether tongue in cheek or not, Deveny’s comments are as offensive as saying, for example, that this looks like the White House staff. It is the kind of thing that makes genuine debate well nigh impossible.

    Posted by paco on 2007 10 30 at 07:23 PM • permalink

  27. Since I didn’t bloody get a laugh from my dimmie description at #6 and #7 I shall try something serious

    Dimmie… dhimmie, perhaps this vile creature recognises something faint in the dark extremes that cautions her and her disgusting leftie ilk that by their actions, they are encouraging the caliphate, which will inter alia do away with women talking without the master’s permission, let alone writing stuff in the newspapers.

    Thus by some strange Freudian transmogrification, she needs to eat a dhimmie when in a takeaway joint.

    I hope this makes more sense to you than it does to me.... Sigh!!

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 30 at 07:25 PM • permalink

  28. Rod C, if you’da said the spine was extracted to dhimmify....

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:27 PM • permalink

  29. Nevermind, Rod C, ya get days like that.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:28 PM • permalink

  30. She’s not insane, she’s just a fuckwit.

    Posted by Tony.T.Teacher on 2007 10 30 at 07:41 PM • permalink

  31. #29 Kae.........Every Day?

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 30 at 07:41 PM • permalink

  32. 5. R Gehlen

    Both parties were ignoring the average Australian citizens discomfort with what appeared to be an open door immigration policy.
    A minor party emerged which raised this issue and gained enough votes to break this status quo.
    Your argument is about as relevant as decrying the greens for forcing Labour to adopt its failed forests policy in tas in the last election.
    Ignoring the disquiet on issues doesnt make them go away, the governments job is to convince people their policy is right, not keep quiet and hope the opposition does as well.
    BTW, immigration is running at record levels because the Libs restored a degree of confidence in the system. Regardless of whether you believe they did it the right way, allowing it to seem open to exploitation wouldn’t have allowed this to happen.
    Without confidence in immigration there most people would rather see it halted than unregulated. Sorry if i havent mentioned race or any of the other lefty talking points, but frankly I dont care on that issue.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 30 at 07:46 PM • permalink

  33. As usual, Deveny’s drivel political comment, as per others’, is juxtaposed to an ad for a 5-series Beemer or in this case the GM/Holden Caprice (essentially an Oz Cadillac for OS folk) hehe

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 30 at 07:47 PM • permalink

  34. Rod C and other Furrin types.

    She would be reffering to one of these, however ive never heard them called a dimmie ouside her writing.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 30 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  35. Somehow, for people of the left, my own sister included,everyone who is not a lefty is a fascist. Hell, she even called me that; I had to remind her that her comprehension of English and history was better then that. Cathy babe seems to be of the left.

    I’m sure someone in the future will do a study of post-communist leftist derangement.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 30 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  36. #31
    Some of us are just really, really unlucky!

    When I win lotto this week I’ll spot ya some cheer-up moolah!

    He he!

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  37. #34
    I knew a displaced Perth person who had lived in Melbourne and he called them dimmies.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  38. #32
    Very well said, Frollicking. There were a few other issues, but that was a major one. The two main parties seemed to be converging/combining in their policies at that time, much as they are now....

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  39. #6 Oh, now I understand where the long Australian tradition of cat herding and cat rustling came from

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 30 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  40. PS Rod, did I tell you that without bad luck I wouldn’t have any luck at all?

    Don’t hold your breath for my lotto win, OK?

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  41. #11 Kae, OK something I don’t understand about Australian politics.

    Is the senate elected? novelty!

    If so, is it elected at the same time as the parliament?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 30 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  42. #41

    Voting system
    The voting system for the Senate has changed twice since it was created. The original arrangement involved a first past the post block voting mechanism. In 1919 preferential block voting came in. Block voting tended to grant landslide majorities and even “wipe-outs” very easily. In 1946, the Australian Labor Party government won 33 out of the 36 Senate seats. In 1948, partially in response to this extreme situation, proportional representation became the method for electing the Senate.

    From Wiki - I can’t find anything much else about it… no time.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  43. Wimpy, please note that the ballot paper shown is probably one of the smallest. Usually they are about the size of a small table cloth or runner…

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 08:09 PM • permalink

  44. And good luck with that lot, Wimpy.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 08:09 PM • permalink

  45. Eeek.

    Posted by Admonkeystrator on 2007 10 30 at 08:14 PM • permalink

  46. #45
    You OK Admonkeystrator?

    Jeez, I wish I’da thought of a better handle…

    Andrea, would it be possible to change my name…
    when I think of a better one?

    Old a Vague perhaps?

    Luci (short for Lucid Moments?)

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 30 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  47. #41 Wimpy… Your excellent PM Harper made some wry comments about the differences between our two Senates when he addressed our Parliament a couple of months ago,aimed I am sure at the home crowd.

    A Canuck friend once explained that your founders tried to set up a non-hereditary upper house based it on the House of Lords system, noting your lower house is called the House of Commons.  Our Senate was taken almost straight from the USA, with its original concept of a House representing State’s interests. Our lower house is the House of Representatives .

    Our voting system is very different to yours the Brits, the US

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 30 at 08:25 PM • permalink

  48. The woman is insane.

    And she’s not alone...

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 30 at 08:27 PM • permalink

  49. The daft Brunswickcentric bint doesn’t realise that we don’t offer “flake” in Queensland, preferring to consume fish which doesn’t have a taste for the THC-infused flesh of grommetts; in fact up h’yer in the deep north the basic item is a slab of Spanish Mackerel. Besides which, wouldn’t the consumption of flake by this idiot constitute cannibalism?

    I’m no fan of One Nation- a rabble of hillbillies and conspiracy theorists who give conservative politics a bad name and provides an easy brush for the left to tar all of us with- frankly I blame the Greens and the Democrats for the rise of this phenomena- having shown what a piece of piss it is to get your arse into the senate with a small number of ratbag supporters, they made it clear to bottom-feeders such as Oldfield that the time was ripe for a party to appeal to the not-so-bright who harbour a combination of xenophobia and a slavering sense of entitlement- a bigger pack of rent-seekers than the National Party (from whom ON swiped most of their support, with the Nationals becoming more touchy-feely to try to boost their urban base (and failing dismally)). At least One Nation managed to pick up some lower house seats, something none of the minor parties of the left has managed (except for one green in NSW), which illustrates thast there’s a lot more far right nutjobs than far left fruitcups. I’m not sure which group is worse.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 10 30 at 08:28 PM • permalink

  50. I actually though it was a pretty funny article. However this has always annoyed me:
    Hello to Pauline if you’re reading and I’ll have one piece of flake, two dimmies and minimum chips.
    During her peak the left made such a big deal about this, as if running a small business was a humiliating role in life. I don’t run a small business nor do I know anyone who does however I do respect people that take the risk in taking on such a task. I don’t know- perhaps the left believe that if they sneer enough small business operators might begin to collectivise as a means of protection prior to seeking government patronage.
    If Catherine look’s down on small business operators so much then I just hope that she leaves a tip for the ‘lowly’ operator who serves her next Chi Latte.

    Posted by Mattofact on 2007 10 30 at 08:45 PM • permalink

  51. Just more proof, as if more were needed, that leftists don’t do humour.

    Mark Steyn she ain’t.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 10 30 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  52. #50 Amazing, especially since so many lefty pols’ financial experience has been limited to fiddling student union funds. Selling newspapers on street corners would be a step up for most of them.

    Posted by squawkbox on 2007 10 30 at 08:58 PM • permalink

  53. Hello to Pauline if you’re reading and I’ll have one piece of flake, two dimmies and minimum chips

    The only flake is Deveny. The woman is an appalling snob and a condescending racist. She preaches equality and egalitarianism yet treats lesser people - working classes, conservative voters, Aborigines and migrants - as inferiors who should be grateful fr the privilege to wait on her table or clean her house.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 10 30 at 08:59 PM • permalink

  54. Habib

    I hope you didnt read my response as a defence of one notion. It was meant to be more of a criticism of what happens when both major parties decide an issue is too “hot” and don’t want to cause a stir.
    Other issues that tend to have this sort of “consensus” tend to be anything to do with the death penalty, abortion and gun control, I’m sure there’s plenty of others which can be added.
    Neither party sees a clear cut gain in addressing these issues so both are committed to the status quo. In the event another “one nation” type party gains the same support on either a left or right issue Id expect to see either party swing that way. Its called democracy. (or at least our version of it)
    I attended a one nation meeting at the insistence of my grandfather years back, and it attracted every crank on earth. People voted for them (outside the crank fringe) not because they wanted one nation to gain control or balance of power, but because they wanted the consensus to change. In that respect the party was at least partially successful.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 10 30 at 09:20 PM • permalink

  55. Should have read: One Nation is still around. Which is great news for all deluded leftards still hoping to replicate the success of the 1987 Joh for PM campaign.

    The left pumped a hell of a lot of oxygen into One Nation with the hope that splitting the coalition vote (esp here in QLD) would get them over the line. (like Hawke in ‘87)

    they didn’t (and still don’t) understand that a lot of One Nation’s support came from traditional Labor voters disaffected by the decades long transition of the ALP from the party of the workers to the plaything of the parasitic classes we know and loathe today.

    that’s my theory anyway

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 10 30 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  56. How does Catherine Deveny have a job?

    Posted by stickit on 2007 10 30 at 09:33 PM • permalink

  57. They picked up that vote, but mostly swiped votes from the Nationals so in that respect they aided the ALP- the ALP however is haemorraging the lunar left/doctors wife vote to Captain Planet and his phytophile phlanx; ON isn’t going to be much of an issue this time around but Cap’n Bob certainly will be, and their open ticket in Tasmania’s going to piss in the punchbowl of any ALP hopes in Two Head country.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 10 30 at 09:35 PM • permalink

  58. One Nation are a bunch of socially conservative protectionists, who don’t trust markets. You know, like Kevin Rudd.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 30 at 09:52 PM • permalink

  59. #50 Mattofact, remember Dementveny is a journalist, and is therefore poorly positioned on the vocational popularity ladder to look down on anyone.
    I haven’t noticed where fish-n-chip shop ladies come in, but I’m certain I have never seen them placed lower than journalists.
    (Sorry TimB, but I’m sure you would agree that your trade has not polled well over recent years.)

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 30 at 10:10 PM • permalink

  60. Q. If a journalist, a paedophile, a politician, a humanities academic and an insurance salesman fell out of an aircraft at 25,000ft, which would hit the ground first?

    A. Who gives a fuck.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 10 30 at 10:22 PM • permalink

  61. What is most telling is that the author thinks what she’s written is funny, and is so clueless she is not a bit red-faced.  Unconscious, with a tin-ear her only working sense modality.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 10 30 at 11:03 PM • permalink

  62. To call Deveny insane is to remove all responsibility for the bile she’s drowning in.  I seriously doubt she’s trying for tongue-in-cheek, but if she is, she does it with the usual lefty skill at humor --- like trying to kill a flea with a sledgehammer.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 10 30 at 11:05 PM • permalink

  63. Well done Mz. Deveny. I haven’t laughed that hard since the orphans with cancer bus crashed into the puppy shop, caught fire and incinerated the lot of them.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 30 at 11:22 PM • permalink

  64. Infidel, you fiend- how could you laugh at something like that? Children and puppies burning, man think of all the CO2 emissions!

    Posted by Mattofact on 2007 10 30 at 11:27 PM • permalink

  65. Small wonder Deveny didn’t make much of the What Women Justine Caines Want(s) party - an easy Senate ticket?

    ... for the ‘rural’ (read: recently relocated to Scone, NSW, FFS) ‘Mum of six’ - who’ve raised each other, by the looks of your busy CV, luv - are they the ones who trash the local Scone Woolies while you’re having a latte?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 30 at 11:53 PM • permalink

  66. Oh!  Oh!  What #62, RebeccaH said.  Well done, as usual.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 10 31 at 12:06 AM • permalink

  67. #8

    "Supremacism (def.) : the belief that a particular race, religion, gender, belief system or culture is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not."

    I’m trying to think what particular race, religion, gender, belief system or culture would hold that belief.
    Of course! It’s the bloody Presbyterians.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 31 at 12:23 AM • permalink

  68. Is “bint” Australian slang for the c-word?

    Posted by CraigC on 2007 10 31 at 01:20 AM • permalink

  69. I must be getting old; all this thread did to me was to make me look up the ideal Australian fish and potato varieties for fish and chips. Still better than earwax, though…

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 10 31 at 01:25 AM • permalink

  70. #68 Craig C

    A bint is a woman, interchangeable with bitch, cow (I don’t think Australians attach such horror to “bitch” and “bastard” as our furrin friends.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 01:29 AM • permalink

  71. I think “bint” is British slang; something like “bimbo”. Haven’t checked, could be wrong.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 10 31 at 01:30 AM • permalink

  72. Bint from the Urban Dictionary.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 01:32 AM • permalink

  73. kae, the bint link is messed up....try this.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 31 at 01:36 AM • permalink

  74. oops!  Taa TRJS.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 01:38 AM • permalink

  75. #70, 71.  I first encountered the word in my RAAF days.  It was frequently used by those who had been posted to the Butterworth base in Malaysia.  The dictionary kae referred to mentions an Arabic origin but I think bint is a general Islamic term that the bumiputras around Penang used frequently.  Of course, the RAAFies decided to add the adjectives ‘doughy-headed’ and ‘cloth-eared’ to make the term synonymous with ‘stupid woman’.

    Posted by craigo on 2007 10 31 at 01:41 AM • permalink

  76. I’ve bint to Bali, too?

    With a bunch of UNFCCC’s ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 31 at 02:10 AM • permalink

  77. White supremacists? I don’t think so, more like white pragmatists.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 10 31 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  78. #5: After all, this is the government that will allow Neo-nazi bands into the country but ban the likes of Snoop Doggy Dog…

    R Gehlen

    Actually R, this is the government that denied entry to revisionist ‘historian’ David Irving, yet gave visas to Louis Farrakhan and Gerry Adams.

    If Howard said he was, “going down the shop to buy some milk and bread,” diseased minds like yours would interpret the statement as being racist, sexist, homophobic and islamophobic.

    Deveny has however given me an idea.  Why not invite some Australian Democrats to your party and watch them cry?  I guess the last laugh goes to the Christian Democrats and the Shooters Party who have two seats each in the New South Wales Legislative Council while the Democrats have none.

    Posted by monaro on 2007 10 31 at 02:53 AM • permalink

  79. #8 - Ms Deveny’s sneering contempt for the views of others and of anything outside her sphere (probably two or three streets at the most) is really mind-boggling.

    Maxine McKew admitted in an interview once that when accused of such narrow-mindedness, she had to admit on reflection that indeed she did mix only with a small group of similar minded friends in the inner suburbs of Sydney and never travelled more than a couple of suburbs away. These people are extremely narrow-minded and ignorant.

    Posted by MAGB on 2007 10 31 at 03:04 AM • permalink

  80. Deveny and Hutchison are having the “stupid” equivalent of an arms race over at The garbAge.

    Posted by Mr Hackenbacker on 2007 10 31 at 03:11 AM • permalink

  81. This is a letter I sent to The Age a couple of weeks ago. Didn’t get in....

    “Dear Sirs,
    Many’s the time I’ve been sputteringly incoherent, watching Catherine Deveney’s offensive generalisations galumph across the page, until my wife calms me saying “Don’t worry, it doesn’t mean anything, she’s only a journalist” and I am able to regain my composure and head off to a productive day’s work.
    But the fundamental problem is that, whether it be four wheel drives, surnames or even money, people enjoy the same freedom to choose as Catherine, yet their choices are different, and she has yet to accept this as reasonable. I do hope these columns are in some way therapeutic.”

    Posted by ooh honey honey on 2007 10 31 at 03:29 AM • permalink

  82. Bint: arab word or gyppo dialect, used by the British Army as a general word for loose woman, from the late 1800s at least to WWII, from the long Brit presence in egypt

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 10 31 at 03:34 AM • permalink

  83. Heyyyy!
    Question without notice.

    If Tony Abbott is late for the debate with Nicola Roxson and she starts to debate without him, does that make it a masturbate?

    She did seem to be, er, building herself up.

    Just wonderin’.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 03:42 AM • permalink

  84. #83
    He prolly told her to ‘start without me’ -> Nicola Roxoff?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 31 at 04:05 AM • permalink

  85. #78

    I thought it was already Australian Democrat (singular)?

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 31 at 05:00 AM • permalink

  86. What the hell? Who the hell asks for “minimum” chips?

    Uh - me. Perhaps it’s a Victorian thing.  Fish-and-chip shops usually have notice on the menu over the fryers giving the minimum quantity of chips they sell, somewhere between $2.20 and $2.80.  That’s enough for 3 people, or two people gorging. It’s just a short-hand way of saying ‘a serve of chips please’.

    This doesn’t seem to apply in WA where for some reason fish and chips are frightfully expensive, comparatively speaking. We can do F&C for 3 here for $15 (3 flake min chips).  It would be close to double that in the West.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 10 31 at 06:29 AM • permalink

  87. I hold fish&chip people in high regard. Why would I not?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 10 31 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  88. The real question must be who DOESN’T order minimum chips? Even if you ain’t gonna eat them, buy it to keep Aussie spud growers in business. Besides theres nothing funnier than throwing chips near small kids when a flock of seagulls are nearby.

    Posted by CB on 2007 10 31 at 09:07 AM • permalink

  89. Jeeze CB, what a great idea. Especially if the small kids are the usual obnoxious screamers. Can’t wait to try that out.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 31 at 09:41 AM • permalink

  90. It’s important to ask for minimum chips in Victoria or else you’ll be stuck with more chips than Paul Keating.

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 10 31 at 10:03 AM • permalink

  91. Oh boy. This is gonna be good, I can just tell.

    Aussie politics are so entertaining when you don’t have to take them seriously. Unlike the Yank version, which runs too damn long and has, like, zero humor as a rule. Bunch of prickly, self-important sods one and all.

    And that’s just the wives…

    Posted by mojo on 2007 10 31 at 10:37 AM • permalink

  92. What does, “I’ll have one piece of flake, two dimmies and minimum chips” even mean?  To us colonists, its sounds like she is asking for a piece of a corn flake, two weird alcoholic drinks, and some number of potato chips that is not zero, but extremely close to it.

    Posted by blogagog on 2007 10 31 at 11:57 AM • permalink

  93. Much as I don’t want it in my Xmas stocking, Black Inc has a commendable sense of irony in publishing a book of her columns under the title It’s Not My Fault They Print Them.

    Posted by Andrew R on 2007 10 31 at 02:32 PM • permalink

  94. mojo—In America, polticians campaign and the voters have the last laugh…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 31 at 03:13 PM • permalink

  95. #92 blogagog
    flake = shark (piece of fish)
    dimmie = dim-sum
    minimum chips = minimum serve of fries, heaven only knows how much that is. some places it’s $2 and you could feed an army with it, others it’s $2 and you’re lucky to get enough to feed yourself. You have to know your fish & chip shop.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 06:06 PM • permalink

  96. Oh, and they aren’t the pissy little sissy fries like the golden arches has, they are Real Chips. Big slices of huge potatoes fried.

    fish and chips
    dimmies

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 06:09 PM • permalink

  97. hungry yet?

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 06:10 PM • permalink

  98. Thanks, and yes I am, for some greasy goodness :).

    Posted by blogagog on 2007 10 31 at 06:32 PM • permalink

  99. #98
    Mission Accomplished.  8-P

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 06:44 PM • permalink

  100. #86 walter,
    I’m just curious as to where in Oz would a person go into a milk bar and ask for “minimum” chips.
    In NSW, all we’ve ever said is, “one lot of chips”, or “two dollars worth o’ chips please”.

    And we’d ask if we could have them cooked longer so they’d be extra crispy.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 10 31 at 07:04 PM • permalink

  101. #100 I’m curious as to where in Oz milk bars serve chips. I’m just a Victorian, but CD’s fish and chip shop order was the part of the article that made sense.

    Posted by Andrew R on 2007 10 31 at 08:54 PM • permalink

  102. #101
    Andrew
    I grew up in Sydney and it wasn’t unusual for milkbars to have burgers, fish and chips, dimsims, chiko rolls etc. as well as ice creams, milkshakes etc.
    However, a fish shop or a fish and chip shop didn’t usually have milkshakes and ice creams - but these days the lines of demarcation are blurred.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 09:06 PM • permalink

  103. #101 Hi Andrew,

    From as far back as I can remember, we always went to the Milk Bar for fish and chips, hamburgers etc.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 10 31 at 09:12 PM • permalink

  104. #102 - Not in Victoria.  Tends to be one or ‘tother

    Kae “dimmie = dim-sum” You must be a Sandgroper.  In Victoria it’s dim sim. And those pics were nothing like a fish-and-chip shop dim sim.  They were the gourmet, Chinese restaurant sort. These are the F&C shop variety—here.. They are mostly cabbage and pretty ordinary. For flavour douse in soy sauce.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 10 31 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  105. dim sum is the chinese name for them I think
    and it’s what I’ve heard them called by Americans.

    A Victorian introduced me to steamed dimmies. That taste sensation didn’t last long, I don’t think you can get decent frozen dimmies any more.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  106. #102
    Well there you go. Stick it in your book of useless facts.
    I’m not a sandgroper, either, I’ve visited and had a b/f once from there. I know that things have different names in different states of Aus, I’ve lived in NSW, Vic and Qld.
    Oh, and when I can I buy the dimmies like the ones in my picture. They at least are made with flavour.
    And I like my dimmies fried.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 31 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  107. #104 Hi Walter,

    you’re correct about dim sim. That’s the only name I’ve ever known them by.

    It also gave rise to the term, “not as dim as I sim”.  heheh

    And your picture is the only way I’ve seen them served up in NSW milk bars.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 10 31 at 10:06 PM • permalink

  108. All the time I’ve spent in Sydney I apparently used 7/11’s or the like rather than milk bars. I’m pleased that bakers in Sydney sell steak and kidney pie, which can be hard to find here.

    I like steamed dimmies too, but rarely have the courage to order them. It is fascinating that our cooking was slightly Asianised, long before Lord Keating anncounced we were part of Asia.

    Posted by Andrew R on 2007 11 01 at 12:53 AM • permalink

  109. One Sunday morning in Singapore a shipmate and I went out for a dim sum brunch.  The waitress (wearing one of those excellent Dragon lady dresses with the side slit going nearly to the armpits) explained that typically the custom was to order one steamed, one fried, and so on.

    Fine, we said and made our order.  She frowned and said, nearly inaudibly “Three steamed, five fried...” Yes, we affirmed, that’s what we wanted.

    Sullenly she slinked off to put in the order.  I said to my friend, “I think we just wrecked a week’s worth of karma for this place.”

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 11 01 at 01:07 AM • permalink

  110. #78. True, but Gerry Adams first visa request was turned down. His second was successful but the PM refused to even meet him. Farrakhan, like the US neo-Nazi band, is anti-semitic, much like the League of Rights who enjoy listening to the speeches of Danny Nalliah, a pastor friend of John Howard’s.

    Posted by R Gehlen on 2007 11 01 at 06:53 AM • permalink

  111. #32. Both parties were ignoring the average Australian citizens discomfort with what appeared to be an open door immigration policy.

    Surely it was more like both parties were ignoring the average person’s disquiet at the effects of the economic rationalism they were both implementing?

    Posted by R Gehlen on 2007 11 01 at 06:57 AM • permalink

  112. Not to be pedantic, lads, but “dim sum” means “heart’s desire”, and refers to a large variety of tasty goodies that you pick and choose from and pay for by the number of plates you have stacked up at the end.

    It also has very little to do with cabbage, hopefully. Especially boiled. Yech.

    “Dim Sim”? You’re on your own there, mate!

    Posted by mojo on 2007 11 01 at 04:13 PM • permalink

  113. #112
    Pedantry is fine, it assists the learning process.

    This lad appreciates your input.

    Thanks, Moje.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 01 at 05:35 PM • permalink

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