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IT’S A SIGN

Virginia Trioli introduces a segment on last night’s Lateline:

Time is running out for the living planet according to a new report from the United Nations. It says the environment has reached crisis point where population growth and global warming imperilling the earth and to some experts, the fires currently devastating California are the latest sign of how climate change is affecting humanity.

And then she throws to Simon Palan, who reports:

Four people have been arrested on arson suspicion so far and $US150,000 reward is offered for any information leading to further arrests.

Those people are called “climate change”, apparently. Five are now under arrest for arson; the reward for information on these climate changers has been increased to $250,000.

UPDATE. An earlier report from Californian reader Saltydog.

Posted by Tim B. on 10/26/2007 at 09:17 PM
  1. Yeah, but Climate Change made them arsonists. Isn’t that obvious?
    I just have to work out how.

    Posted by Toiling Mass on 2007 10 26 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  2. Arsonists! The human link to gloabl warming!

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 26 at 09:29 PM • permalink

  3. Eco-Fascism / Fascist Ideology: The Green Wing of the Nazi Party and its Historical Antecedents.
    Peter Staudenmaier

    “We recognize that separating humanity from nature, from the whole of life, leads to humankind’s own destruction and to the death of nations. Only through a re-integration of humanity into the whole of nature can our people be made stronger. That is the fundamental point of the biological tasks of our age. Humankind alone is no longer the focus of thought, but rather life as a whole . . . This striving toward connectedness with the totality of life, with nature itself, a nature into which we are born, this is the deepest meaning and the true essence of National Socialist thought.” 1

    Dont know this guy or his credibility level but… anyhoo, y’all smarter folk might now.

    Here’s the site for that opening para he uses:

    Footnotes
    1. Ernst Lehmann, Biologischer Wille. Wege und Ziele biologischer Arbeit im neuen Reich, München, 1934, pp. 10-11. Lehmann was a professor of botany who characterized National Socialism as “politically applied biology.”

    Kinda funny if our beloved eco-luvvies turned out to be practicing Nazis afterall, eh?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 09:35 PM • permalink

  4. Oh the humanity!  Here in Perth it has rained for two days and is only about 14 degrees and it’s cold (for Perth anyway).

    Posted by Cashew on 2007 10 26 at 09:42 PM • permalink

  5. Oh how things change / sarcasm. Steely Dan had this to say some 30 years ago:

    Here come those Santa Ana winds again

    What was the excuse back then?

    Posted by Nic on 2007 10 26 at 09:46 PM • permalink

  6. Cashew:

    14 degrees? Wow, that is cold. Is Perth some research station in the Auntie Artic?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 09:47 PM • permalink

  7. Nic:

    30 years ago? Probably commies. Commies from Cuba. They were always up to no good.

    Sneeking in and messing with our weather…how rude!

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 09:55 PM • permalink

  8. Police in California are taking the lead in fighting global warming.

    Posted by paco on 2007 10 26 at 10:00 PM • permalink

  9. I just have to work out how.

    Never forget the root causes, T.M., although with climate change, that’s a moving target.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 26 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  10. paco, that’s a good way to fight climate change.  Even if it is a moving target.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 26 at 10:12 PM • permalink

  11. #6.  Grimmy,

    In Cashew’s apparent absence, 14 degrees Celsius is something in the order of 60 degrees Fahrenheit. So, cool but far from Arctic.

    Just thought you should know.

    Cheers,

    Posted by Olrence on 2007 10 26 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  12. Olrence:

    Thanks.

    I do hope the VRWC gets a better SOP written up on this cultural conquest thing. Foreigners have too many funny ways of counting things. There aughta be a law.

    Next thing you know, they’ll be sticking u’s into words all willy nilly just to be different.

    So, that’s probably where all the confusion comes from in this glowball warmerizing thing. Too many folk using all sorts of weird measuring sticks and nothing matches up proper.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 10:27 PM • permalink

  13. It really is time for people in authority to call bullshit on all this rot.

    Please! I can’t take this idiocy any more.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 26 at 10:29 PM • permalink

  14. Grimmy, I meant 14 degrees celsius (shit I’m too late).  Thanks Olrence, one needs to shower, even in this climate.

    Posted by Cashew on 2007 10 26 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  15. #8 paco,

    that article was great. The site also led me to this. I hope the bastards start to take notice.

    Seems the only thing they understand is their wallet.

    I don’t care, as long as the right message gets across.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 10 26 at 10:54 PM • permalink

  16. Arsonists are raping Gaia!

    Where’s Reverend Algore when we need him?

    Posted by rinardman on 2007 10 26 at 11:23 PM • permalink

  17. Kae:

    For a laugh and a giggle.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 11:25 PM • permalink

  18. Promos on seven on Thursday night (just watching a time shifted copy) about the Special Investigation on Channel 7 News of “What the government doesn’t want us to know about the Great Barrier Reef”. Talking bone-dome Garrett is up there spruiking that we all need to know. Video of a snorkeller pulling out chunks of dead coral from a dead part of reef.

    I wonder if it’s got anything to do with Garrett trying to have the $12k fee for FOI waived. I wonder what sort of financial hardship he claimed for the waiver…

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 26 at 11:29 PM • permalink

  19. I hope the little bastards never get out of jail.  Those that are still alive, that is.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 10 26 at 11:30 PM • permalink

  20. #8 paco: So the five arrested could have been six, ‘cept they shot one. Now they have to feed, house and clothe the others while they get to sob out their poor, deprived, wretched-childhood stories. Bugger!

    Posted by SandiM on 2007 10 26 at 11:30 PM • permalink

  21. Look, so when are we all going to die?

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 10 26 at 11:36 PM • permalink

  22. #17 Hmm. Used to be the family anthem. That and this.

    Advent Children. Is that a game?

    I recently had a friend staying with her teenage son who was playing games with lots of shoot-em-up and knock-em-down and blood and gore (he assures me the TV is self cleaning internally). I was interested in the stories to go with the games, but he was a bit engrossed much of the time to explain.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 26 at 11:39 PM • permalink

  23. The trolley dolly and her Auntie arsen about again ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 26 at 11:40 PM • permalink

  24. #21, anthony_r:

    Lemme check…

    Tomorrow. Around noonish.

    Oh wait, wrong calendar. That’s for lunch.

    Die?  I don’t seem to have an entry to that.

    Maybe we can pencil it in for the 38th of next month?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 11:44 PM • permalink

  25. I wonder if the arsonists’ carbon footprint is as big as Al Gore’s?

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 10 26 at 11:45 PM • permalink

  26. Kae:
    I have no idea what graphics engine (game or graphics wiz) that comes from.

    Some mmos are coming out with really decent graphics though. I’m currently nerding around in LotRO (Lord of the Rings, Online).

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 26 at 11:46 PM • permalink

  27. #13 Kae, you’ll have to hold on a bit longer. Even Sarkozy has now decided to play along.  Among his planet-saving proposals: a ban on single-paned windows.  WTF!?

    Posted by cuckoo on 2007 10 26 at 11:54 PM • permalink

  28. Arsonists are now “free-lance climate changers”?

    On that note, don’t be at all surprised if more of this week’s wildfires turn out to be “of suspicious origin”.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 10 26 at 11:57 PM • permalink

  29. #24
    Yeah, it is a bit like that, Grimmy innit?

    #26
    mmo? 

    #27

    *sigh*

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 26 at 11:59 PM • permalink

  30. Heyyyy, the dead arsonist is now


    *CARBON NEUTRAL*

    LOLZ

    That’s too bad.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 12:00 AM • permalink

  31. #27 D’ya think he meant single glazed windows?

    Mr Sarkozy said that by 2020, all new buildings should “produce more energy than they consume”, without elaborating.

    A bit like Kevvie’s grasp of using solar power in schools.
    “... the transducer puts the power back into the grid and you just use it when you need it…” (prolly paraphrased a little)

    mentioned in an earier thread.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 12:03 AM • permalink

  32. by 2020, all new buildings should “produce more energy than they consume”

    Lentils and airtight windows?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 10 27 at 12:12 AM • permalink

  33. Kinda sorta off topic, maybe, but possibly more on topic than I usually am.

    Indoctrinate U A documentary on the current practices of thought policing on American university campuses.

    Glerbol Warm-mongering is a current symptom, the docu aims at the root cause.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 27 at 12:25 AM • permalink

  34. It is foggy here in Tianjin, has been for a couple of days. Visibility 100m or less. The office chatter is all about how ‘strange’ this is - and further global warming evidence. Somehow it is just not as ‘exciting’ to recall last years fog. Some people just want to be part of a dramatic event.

    Posted by Kairen on 2007 10 27 at 12:32 AM • permalink

  35. I don’t think these arsonists could possibly be on the side of the Great Gore. I think they’re just complete nutters who all deserve to be shot.

    If they were part of the Church of Gore, he’d excommunicate them for releasing so much carbon into the atmosphere.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 10 27 at 12:32 AM • permalink

  36. #32 Only if they install in-building wind farms Egg.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 10 27 at 12:33 AM • permalink

  37. ALP = tsunami. I like it.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 01:48 AM • permalink

  38. Arsonists are now “free-lance climate changers”?

    Yes, but I understand they have to pay The Goreacle™, as He sells the franchise.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 27 at 01:59 AM • permalink

  39. ...a new report from the United Nations. It says the environment has reached crisis point where population growth and global warming…

    Did anyone else notice that the report was not a UN report but one from the widely discredited IP committee thingy.
    Furthermore, it dealt with the effects of excess population, not AGW.
    Now, I don’t want to start anything nasty, but shouldn’t this thread be discussing population reduction rather than global warming?

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 27 at 02:25 AM • permalink

  40. #39, Skeeter:

    But, but, but… no?

    I refuse to consider population as an issue until the combined head count of both the Dekotas equals at least one normal sized city.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 27 at 02:32 AM • permalink

  41. Hmmm… so if somebody, let’s say hypothetically as might be myself, starts a criminal enterprise and names it “Climate Change,” then when we - I mean they - commit a caper everyone tells the cops it was climate change wot did it, and off they go chasing who knows what but not us?  I mean, but not them?

    Right.  This is going to be sooooo sweet.  You’ll be hearing a lot about the depredations of “Climate Change” pretty soon (wink, wink).

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 10 27 at 02:50 AM • permalink

  42. #40, Grimmy:

    Hey, dumbass, that’s Dakota. Da Da not De.

    What the hell is a Dekota? Some kind of ring used to translate secret messages?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 27 at 03:04 AM • permalink

  43. Hi Grimmy.
    Just thought I should talk with you in case, you know… they’re coming to take you away, ha ha, he he, ha ha, ho ho…

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 03:18 AM • permalink

  44. Coming? Heck, they done been and gone already.

    Where do you think I’m writing from?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 27 at 03:26 AM • permalink

  45. D’ya want me to bake you the cake with the file in it?
    Or are you just enjoying your little holiday away from it all? (Mind you, those jackets they use that do up at the back, with the straps and buckles are a real bugger to get off.)

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 03:35 AM • permalink

  46. In the south Nivek Sept will spin a throne
    And the land of King Conan will burn
    Though firebugs be found
    The town criers will bow before a gorey messiah

    Yeah I know Nostradamus has been done before- but, umm, its time*

    (*all purpose, ironclad excuse for mediocrity)

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 10 27 at 03:43 AM • permalink

  47. What? Bust outa here?

    Free meds, pretty nurses, easy hours. A guy could get used to this.

    I especially like the part where I don’t ever have to wash dishes or do laundry.

    Oh, and just to really get under the skin of the On Topic bullies…

    MMO are a kind of computer game. It means a persistant world (it’s always there) that you make a character to interact with other players in that game world. Lots of people playing together, doing adventures, quests, exploring, crafting, socializing…probably the cheapest possible bang for buck in entertainment these days, if you enjoy doing it.

    You can go to youtube and search for “lotro” and you’ll find some vids players have made from their play in the game world. Lots of them are folk trying out the new music system where your character can play an instrument..but there are some good traveloges and game play demos as well.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 10 27 at 03:48 AM • permalink

  48. What set it off is ardor.  Too much ardor, and the dry brush starts burning.  If California were more laid back, it wouldn’t happen.

    The worst ardorists are being picked up now, and hopefully will spend years in reeducation camps.

    Dropping glaciers on the fire was a master stroke.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 10 27 at 04:57 AM • permalink

  49. I guess all my arguments on Anthroprogenic Global Warming not being provable have gone up in flames.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 10 27 at 05:06 AM • permalink

  50. Grimmy - funnily enough, the closest US city to Perth in its climate is… San Diego.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 10 27 at 05:30 AM • permalink

  51. I rode in on an instalanche and the pundit has this link Air American blames fires on Blackwater…

    I think the reason they went off the air in Austin is that somebody slipped prozac into the water.

    Posted by moptop on 2007 10 27 at 08:10 AM • permalink

  52. The earth’s atmosphere is made up of:
    Nitrogen - 78%
    Oxygen - 20%
    Argon - 0.9%
    Carbon Dioxide - .038%
    Various other gases - the balance of around 0.072%.
    The main ingredients required for combustion are Fuel, Oxygen and a box of matches. Triolips and her cohorts in the ABC are waging a scare campaign of their own. Nothing new there - not in the last 30 years or more, anyway.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 10 27 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  53. OK Grimmy, I’ll leave you there, no cake, no file. Night dude.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  54. The climate changed tonight where I live, being a bit warmer than the last couple of nights. It affected humanity (well, me anyway) by making it unnecessary to don a sweatshirt. Film at 11.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 10 27 at 09:19 AM • permalink

  55. Who are these climate changers?

    Are they enviro-islamists or global warmers?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 27 at 10:17 AM • permalink

  56. kae asked:

    Advent Children. Is that a game?

    Sort of. It’s a CGI movie based on one of the Final Fantasy games. (Why it’s “Final” Fantasy when there’s been 12+ games so far, I have no idea.)

    Sort of like the Street Fighter movie, except with better-looking special effects.

    Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 10 27 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  57. #56
    Thanks Patrick. Like I said, it looks good, I wondered what the story was.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 08:00 PM • permalink

  58. kae: The DVD’s been out for awhile now. Might want to check out a rental and see it. The full title is Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.

    The Final Fantasy VII game was on one of the older console games. Playstation, I think. Back in the 90s. Some sort of “gather ancient artifacts to save the Planet from imminent DOOOOOM” tale in it.

    Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 10 27 at 08:30 PM • permalink

  59. #58
    Thanks!

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 08:32 PM • permalink

  60. Ugh. Remembered one of the main subplots: Evil Corporation siphoning the Life Energy of the Planet. (Literally. Some greenish flowing energy stuff.)

    So I guess take it with a grain of salt.

    Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 10 27 at 08:47 PM • permalink

  61. #60
    Patrick, I started to reply to #58 by saying D’ya think in upcoming games that AlGore will be a collectible artifact?

    (I know he’s all artifice now!)

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 27 at 09:00 PM • permalink

  62. Well, I never played the game and only absorbed bits of info from net.friends who were playing the game at the time. There were these things called Artifact Weapons which were Boss Monsters of some sort, I guess.

    Don’t know if there was one that had hot air and freezing attacks, but if there was I would definitely call it Artifact Weapon Gore. Or maybe MechaGorezilla?

    (It’s a Japanese game, got to use those names that are the result of bad translations into English by either someone who speaks English, or someone who speaks Japanese.)

    Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 10 27 at 09:12 PM • permalink

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