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“IT IS TIME”
The President has gone fission:
George Bush has made the first visit to a nuclear plant by a US president in 26 years and declared: “It is time for this country to start building nuclear power plants again.”
UPDATE. Murph asks: “I wonder how the moonbats will reconcile that one with the allegation that Bush is an oil spiv.”
Because he’s building nuclear power plants that run off oil, duh!
Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 06 23 at 11:50 PM • permalinkEveryone knows really big rubber bands are the future of energy production.
Posted by Some0Seppo on 2005 06 24 at 09:25 AM • permalinkI heard Bush is calling for the use of pebble bed reactors but instead of using ceramics to contain the fuel he is going to use plastics. This way he can continue America’s dependence on the Oil Barons.
Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2005 06 24 at 10:03 AM • permalink<< Bush should push for Nuclear FUSION >>
Gosh davo, of course, why didn’t we think of that before? Fusion is a piece of cake, and I’m sure Bush’s oil-greed is the only reason we don’t already have fusion plants all over the country. Another commonplace technology I want to take advantage of is invisibility, so I can hang out in the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders’ locker room.
“I wonder how the moonbats will reconcile that one with the allegation that Bush is an oil spiv.”
Because the same energy companies that are involved in oil interests around the globe would get the contracts to build and operate the nuclear plants.
See this link:
http://www.nucleartourist.com/us/address.htmNote the company named “Exelon”. Now check out these links:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/11/11177.html
http://www.atomicinsights.com/AI_05-01-05.htmlAs far as energy companies go, Exelon is a very environmentally friendly company. Note that the company deals with all forms of energy. Natural gas, for example. But half of its energy output comes from traditional fossil fuels. The same fossil fuel industry that Bush is in bed with.
That is why I’m sceptical about the Bush’s motives for pushing this.
Electrical power is produced by energy companies.
It’s rare (if even possible) to find a major energy company that doesn’t deal in several different production technologies…which usually means oil-related.
For example, one of the biggest photovoltaic and solar-thermal equipment makers and operators has been Arco. Oddly enough, they seem to do a lot of oil business, too.
That’s just the way the bidness works.
blackjack
Motives, schmotives, it needs to be done. And if somebody the Left hates makes a profit, so much the better.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 06 25 at 02:10 AM • permalinkEnergy corporation deal in energy. Energy comes from a variety of sources.
Large corporations diversify in order to survive and grow (i.e., make enough money to invest in itself and make profits for investors and owners). This provides multiple resources and capabilities, plus different income sources.
Accordingly, a successful energy corporation will deal in multiple energy ventures, and likely several non-energy ventures (such as construction).
Therefore, it is not all surprising that a company with oil interests wants to build nuclear reactors.
Thank you for attending this morning’s session of Capitalism for Beginning Business Owners. Lefties with exploding heads can use the rolls of paper towels to clean up with on their way out. Have a nice day!
Others addressed this, but I couldn’t resist!!! ;-P
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 06 25 at 09:48 AM • permalinkThat is why I’m sceptical about the Bush’s motives for pushing this.
So, pray tell, what should he be pushing for if all the evil energy companies are engaged in all manner of different energy sources anyway? (Well, let’s burn more old growth forests, I don’t think they’re involved with that.)
Now, far be it from me to suggest you’re a loony who would be finding fault with Dubya even for stating such obvious things as “the sun rose this morning”.
In response to the points raised above,
I’m sure no one will be shocked to hear that I have never been president. Nor have I been in a cabinet level position. So I have not overseen the bilking of Americans of thousands of taxdollars.
But I have worked in government for a few years, and I have witnessed and even participated in corrupt practices costing american taxpayers thousands of dollars.
For example, state governments can set up non-profit organizations that are in reality run by the state. These organizations get donations from the public.
When these organizations report their income from donations, they can acquire “matching funds” from the federal government. Essentially the federal government pays them for each dollar you donate to the nonprofit.
This doesn’t just work with hard currency. You can donate your old gardening equipment to a non-profit, which can then then assess the value of the equipment and get matching funds from the federal gov’t.
A local business owner has a construction company. The administrator of a local non-profit goes to church/bowls/etc. with him. So the business owner donates his outdated equipment to the nonprofit, and the non-profit collects thousands of dollars in matching funds.
The non-profit then builds a new storage facility, and awards to job to a certain local construction company after that company wins a no bid contract that just happens to be significantly overvalued.
This is one of thousands of ways for goverment officials and business/union people to work together.
Yes, if I don’t like to see government officials hand out these contracts to their personal friends, then I must be “loony”. To suggest that the president for pushing for fat contracts for his friends and associates is obviously akin to criticising him for saying that “the sun rose this morning.”
Sorry for the spelling errors above. Change the sentence: “To suggest that the president for pushing for fat contracts for his friends and associates is obviously akin to criticising him for saying that ‘the sun rose this morning.’”
To “To suggest that the president should not be pushing for fat contracts for his friends and associates is obviously akin [...]”There. Now that almost made sense.
Hey, did I just see a goalpost move? Have we gone from Bush in bed with oil companies to Bush in bed with energy companies?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 06 25 at 05:12 PM • permalinkYes, if I don’t like to see government officials hand out these contracts to their personal friends, then I must be “loony”. To suggest that the president for pushing for fat contracts for his friends and associates is obviously akin to criticising him for saying that “the sun rose this morning.”
Yet you didn’t answer my question of what Bush should be saying instead. How is the U.S. supposed to satisfy rising energy demands, and who is supposed to build the necessary power plants?
Or in other words, do you have anything constructive to say, or are you one of those people who think that, if only they accuse Bush of facilitating corruption often enough, it becomes true? I’ll be nice and reserve my final judgment regarding your looniness status until your response.
I’m sure no one will be shocked to hear that I have never been president. Nor have I been in a cabinet level position. So I have not overseen the bilking of Americans of thousands of taxdollars.
But I have worked in government for a few years, and I have witnessed and even participated in corrupt practices costing american taxpayers thousands of dollars.
I’m a long term government employee myself. I’ve seen multiple shady deals myself, although I can honestly say that I never willingly participated in them. Corrupt practices? Usually more due to incompetence and lack of accountability more than corruption, although I’ve seen that as well (usually when it’s been exposed).
But that’s not my point. Rather, you sound like a bitter employee, not a concerned citizen, complaining that government doesn’t work the way you think it should.
Perhaps it doesn’t work the way it should, but if you ”...even participated in corrupt practices ...”, I don’t accept your logic at face value, because you clearly did so willingly. There are always ways to expose/counter corruption or incompetence, if you have the moral strength to do so. Or to simply refuse to do so, and find another job.
Whinging that the President is in bed with oil companies is not a sign of moral strength, it’s just whinging. It’s not even smart, for the reasons noted above.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 06 26 at 04:16 AM • permalink“I’ve seen multiple shady deals myself, although I can honestly say that I never willingly participated in them.”
I didn’t say I willingly participated in them. Since you say you are a long term government employee, then you know that there are many types of government employees, and that few of them know where their funding comes from. I’m not a beaurocrat, and unfortunately I was blissfully unaware of a great many things earlier in my life.
“Rather, you sound like a bitter employee, not a concerned citizen, complaining that government doesn’t work the way you think it should.”
“Or in other words, do you have anything constructive to say, or are you one of those people who think that, if only they accuse Bush of facilitating corruption often enough, it becomes true?”
Then what would you like me to do? Yes, you can expose instances of curruption or incompetence, but the problem isn’t the people it’s the system of paybacks and the structure of funding and resource allocation. If I go to a local reporter and give them info to destroy people’s careers, that is all it will do. Get a few people fired. It won’t fix the system.
What will fix the system is getting rid of porkrolling, personal projects and deals between government officials and their friends.
“Yet you didn’t answer my question of what Bush should be saying instead. How is the U.S. supposed to satisfy rising energy demands, and who is supposed to build the necessary power plants?”
I am not criticising the president’s push for advanced energy sources. I am merely positing that it is likely that his personal friends in the energy industry will be beneficiaries of this.
It wasn’t wrong for Bill Clinton to invest in real estate. But when you consider the campaign contributions, political and financial favors, and tax benefits, the Whitewater affair becomes a whole different animal.
“Whinging that the President is in bed with oil companies is not a sign of moral strength, it’s just whinging.”
Then what would you have me do? The best option I see is to tell people the reality of government favors, corruption and waste. I’m not just critiquing the president. Patty Murray is a good example on the other side of the aisle who is involved in porkrolling.
I’m not responding to this anymore because you apparently either see me as an irrational whiner or someone so far on the left that I’m simply attacking George Bush because he exists. But I challenge you to read
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1204-02.htm
and then tell me that pet projects and political paybacks are just in my imagination.“Pork rolling” is slang used to describe a legislator adding language to a bill that gives money to a special project in their area of influence. For example, a politician from Iowa might add a fifty million dollar project to build an indoor rain forest in that state to the federal budget. See the link above.
These projects generally do little to benefit the average citizen in the relevant area, but greatly benefit a campaign contributor of the politician in question.
I think the term you’re looking for is pork-barrelling.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 06 27 at 12:30 AM • permalink
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