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INFLUENTIAL ADAMS

Phillip Adams’ new-found belief in the danger of terrorism seems to had a knock-on effect throughout the nation:

Most Australians believe we are locked in a losing war against Islamic terrorists and an attack on our home soil, most likely Sydney, is inevitable ...

Three quarters of the Australian public believe we are losing the war against terrorists, while more than half believe it is “very likely” or “fairly likely” we will be attacked in the next 12 months.

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Anyone who beleves the three amigos - Bush / Howard and Blair regarding a world threat by terrorist is naive and idiotic - one should look at the past to see the future. As the USA scared its people about communism and Russia is about to nuke the USA that people and children in the 1950’s where practising what to do if Russia nukes their town, they even built underground shelter to protect themselves (from what) - pathetic is it not. What have we learnt since than - NOTHING. The government after not having Russia as a pretend threat it must pretend there is another to keep people afraid for the governments own benefit and not to protect the peace loving people of its nation - one must ask the question: What sort of democracy do we live in?
Posted by: Alan Moore of sydney 3:55pm today

Speaking of pretend threats, I wonder what Alan thinks about global warming.

Posted by Tim B. on 08/28/2006 at 05:01 AM
  1. ...they even built underground shelter to protect themselves (from what) - pathetic is it not.

    Phatt didn’t build a shelter. He moved to a natural one. He lives the ideal life on his country estate, far from the madding crowd, Muslim enclaves, Mosques, detention centres, ethnic crime.
    Pathetic is it not?

    Posted by Bonmot on 2006 08 28 at 05:16 AM • permalink

  2. Did the Russians preach on a daily basis that they would like to destroy the west and everything it stood for.  There was an arms race and the space race, the Islamists want the Bomb but not for protection they want it for offensive purposes.  There was always an element of trust and respect between the west and the Warsaw pact countries, any deal done with Islamists would not be worth the paper it was written on.  They lie and deceive at every step but as usual Phillip Adams is padding the Australian newspaper with his word processed crap, John Singleton was on the money when he described Adams as a Bludger.

    Posted by Howzat on 2006 08 28 at 05:30 AM • permalink

  3. Phat Phil’s knock-on effect would be quite something, would it not?

    Posted by Hanyu on 2006 08 28 at 05:44 AM • permalink

  4. Apparently this democracy allows a certain Alan Moore to express his…ideas, I suppose I’ll have to use the word “ideas”...in public, without stoning him or laughing at him in his presence.

    That’s gotta mean something.

    Posted by ushie on 2006 08 28 at 05:47 AM • permalink

  5. Bugger I wanted to mention Global Warming. Funny how we are told Govts’ apparently sit around all day trying to dream up scare campaigns yet Howard just doesn’t seem to see the wonderful opportunity global warming represents. Why don’t we see the “Only I can save you from Global warming”

    Or ala interest rates “Water levels will always be lower under a Liberal/Coalition Government”
    After all Phil Adams and others constantly tell us Howard is suppose to be some sort of Super Evil Political Genius ( How else could he be winning those elections)(he and Karl Rove must have been separated at birth) SURELY he sees the sense of this.

    Ohhh Global Warming is real unlike the terrorists bombs, now I see.

    Posted by the nailgun on 2006 08 28 at 05:48 AM • permalink

  6. What sort of democracy do we live in?

    Well I hope it’s the sort where the votes of dills get swamped by the votes of people who can understand that to fulfil its duty to protect the peace loving people of the nation the government must alert them to terrorist threats when and as they occur.  After all, wasn’t there some squawking not so long ago after a bomb went off in Indonesia and it turned out that DFAT hadn’t issued the sort of travel advisory that might have kept some Australians away from the place?

    As for what Alan thinks about global warming, I think he may not think.  It could be that he just emotes.

    Posted by Janice on 2006 08 28 at 06:08 AM • permalink

  7. The only reason he can write off communism as a pretend threat know is because the west confronted it and destroyed it, no thanks to stupid commie bastards like him and his dumbass mates.

    Posted by phillip on 2006 08 28 at 06:14 AM • permalink

  8. “What have we learnt since than - NOTHING.”

    Has word trouble, too…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2006 08 28 at 06:16 AM • permalink

  9. How about the comment further down by Maureen Cockerill of Bathurst? I think she must have staggered on to the track on race day at some point in her miserable life judging by the way she thinks. Seriously, it’s getting so I can’t even get angry at these sad, deluded fools anymore, no matter how much I want to. They’re just making me laugh.

    Posted by Zuzzy on 2006 08 28 at 06:25 AM • permalink

  10. There once lived a wonderfully talented photography/artist, Ansel Adams.

    In this case we have well, Cancel Adams. Rhymes, no? Oh, what does Cancel do, anyway?

    What have we learnt since than - NOTHING.

    Well Alan, you learnt NOTHING, because you newt, NOTHING, to begin with.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 08 28 at 06:39 AM • permalink

  11. Clearly, when we are faced with a pretend threat of this magnitude, our only option is to pretend to fight. We will nevah pretend to surrender. We will pretend to fight them on the beaches. Never in the field of human pretend conflict have so many pretended to owe so much to few ... uh ... pretenders.  Anyway, that pretend Cold War worked out great, when the Soviets pretended to lose.

    Posted by crittenden on 2006 08 28 at 06:43 AM • permalink

  12. So the Soviets (not the “Russians”) were a “pretend threat,” huh? People like Alan Moore deserve to live under an oppressive regime.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 28 at 06:50 AM • permalink

  13. All you have to do is talk to those in Eastern Europe.  They will tell you that the Soviets were no threat.  Ask a Hungarian who was around in ‘56; commies wouldn’t hurt anybody.  (Pay no attention to those tanks.  They’re just out for a Sunday drive.)

    Oh, and Julie and Ethel were just pawns in the scare-mongers’ game of duck and cover, as were all the rest of the Reds in the stupid, paranoid U.S. of A.  And anyone who says different is just one of McCarthy’s stupid, paranoid puppets.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 08 28 at 06:50 AM • permalink

  14. Yeah.  I was just a baby when the Soviets pretended to build a wall loaded with pretend machine guns and pretend mines to stop all the people who were pretending to flee to the West.  There were zillions of pretend Soviet missiles and pretend American missiles.  The best part was when pretend president Ronald Reagan pretended like he was going to build a giant missle-zapping shield in space, and the Russkies pretend-freaked. They didn’t have enough pretend rubles to keep up the pretense anymore. Then, 30 years later after the building of the pretend wall, a bunch of West Germans pretended to knock it to bits.
      Ever since then, the Russkies have pretended to be a capitalist democracy.

    Y’know, the fun part about this is picking through all of that to figure out which parts are real and which parts ARE pretend.  Works like a political Rorschach’s test.

    Posted by crittenden on 2006 08 28 at 07:38 AM • permalink

  15. Oh yeah, it was also cool how the Soviets pretended to be a worker’s paradise, full of lots of pretend workers who pretended to be progressing boldly to a pretend future.  Some people liked to pretend that the Soviet Union had actually enslaved and killed people by the millions.  But that’s all pretend history now.

    Posted by crittenden on 2006 08 28 at 07:42 AM • permalink

  16. Well, I fully concur with Moore’s confession: he has definitely learned nothing.

    The air is thick with willful ignorance and ideological obtuseness. It is in times like these that it is useful to unfurl the motto of the late Auberon Waugh: “There are countless horrible things happening all over the country, and horrible people prospering but we must never allow them to disturb our equanimity or deflect us from our sacred duty to sabotage and annoy them whenever possible.”

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 07:43 AM • permalink

  17. It’s important that we focus on what is real in life.  Hey Paco, you got my reservation for the big Islamofacist-tossing circumnavigational charter flight?

    Posted by crittenden on 2006 08 28 at 07:50 AM • permalink

  18. #2 well i guess khrushchev never said “we will bury you”

    & the crushing of the prague spring was certainly indicative of trust & respect within the eatern bloc

    Posted by KK on 2006 08 28 at 07:56 AM • permalink

  19. #17: Gassed up and ready to go. Post-takeoff profiling regs apply, so leave those sloshing hollowed-out heels at home. Suspicious characters will be escorted off the plane (at about 30,000 feet).

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  20. Have you wingnuts ever been to Area 51? Right next to the hangar where they staged the Apollo moon landing is the hangar where they staged the USSR.

    Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 08 28 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  21. o/t Oz Story ABC tonight,Greg Combet and were they not lavishing him with praise,tilting over his family illnesses or passings away and generally positioning him for bursting onto the political scene.
    Guessed it would be that objective and what were his last words on the hagiography..
    “yeah well I’m not ruling out going into politics…”.
    We KNOW that Greg or ya wouldn’t be the subject of Australian Story.
    Four Cornices brings up climate change which will lay us in the aisles,but more cheerful than last week’s little tribute to the ALP gov in W.A.-which blamed Grey Nomads for ruining the coastline (in their white trash,low socioeconomic way) for the latte set.
    Best ABC or SBS QUOTE OF THE WEEK
    “during the so-called Great War.”

    Posted by crash on 2006 08 28 at 08:42 AM • permalink

  22. I like the Daily Tele link “raising concerns among ORDINARY people” -that’s us folks..

    Posted by crash on 2006 08 28 at 08:49 AM • permalink

  23. You know, I lived in the Soviet Union for 18 months when I was growing up. It had a profound effect on me and is one of the reasons that I am so virulently anti-socialist.

    We arrived in Moscow in the depths of winter and were given two cars with drivers that were provided by the Protocol Department; large, black things (the cars) that were nearly the size of a New York cab. Fortunately for me, I sat in the first car with my father and youngest brother. My mother and other brother sat in the back of the second car. The rear of the car was completely separated from the front by a screen and the driver in my mother’s car turned on the air-conditioner all the way from the airport to the Australian embassy. My mother was gesticulating wildly and knocking on the screen but the Russian driver pretended not to understand what she wanted. When we got to the embassy my brother’s face and hands were blue; my mother had hugged him as close as she could to try and keep him warm but to with only a little effect. He was very ill for some weeks but fortunately didn’t lose any of his fingers or bits of earlobe.

    Welcome to the Soviet Union. Remember who’s boss. Adams thinks that these people were the cultural equivalents superiors of the US. What a buffoon.

    PS - Our next posting was three years in the US. A starker contrast could hardly be found.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2006 08 28 at 09:08 AM • permalink

  24. #7 Phillip

    The only reason he can write off communism as a pretend threat know is because the west confronted it and destroyed it

    Destroyed it?
    They said they lost and we said great, no hard feelings.

    Fjordman wrote a good article,
    Political Correctness - The Revenge of Marxism”,
    about Soviet Russia adopting the theories of Gramsci to undermine the West.

    Also interesting reading are,
    How the Soviets gave the Mullahs the bomb

    and
    Russian footprints” by Ion Mihai Pacepa

    Posted by Mike_W on 2006 08 28 at 09:21 AM • permalink

  25. #22: “I like the Daily Tele link “raising concerns among ORDINARY people” -that’s us folks.. “

    Takes a another sip of espresso, and then a long pull on his H. Upman cigar. Brushes the ash from the pages of his deluxe edition of Sterne’s, “A Sentimental Journey” with a white silk handkerchief casually extracted from the pocket of his hand-tailored, 100% wool, navy-blue pinstriped double-breasted suit jacket. Adjusts the volume of his CD player, currently filling the air with the propulsive rhythm of the 1946 recording of the Baranco Boogie.

    Yes, we ordinary people have every right to be concerned. Puff, puff.

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 09:29 AM • permalink

  26. #20 - Have you wingnuts ever been to Area 51? Right next to the hangar where they staged the Apollo moon landing is the hangar where they staged the USSR.

    Well no Paul, I haven’t been there. Best I can get is that it is “an airfield whose primary purpose is the secret development and testing of new military aircraft. It is famed as the subject of many UFO conspiracy theories”.

    But if as you say they staged the USSR there, then it must really be something. Some staging, Hollywood eat your hearts out. Or did they only have a scaled down mud map of the USSR there for staging purposes?

    Before Paul posted his drivel, I was going to suggest that you looked further down to where one M Ossad bleats “The ‘war on terror’ is completely bogus and its blatantly obvious to even half thinking sheeple”. I like Kiwis, but I think it’s getting to the stage where there are really too many in Australia.

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 08 28 at 10:20 AM • permalink

  27. #26: I just figured Paul was making an ironic joke, the target of which was lefty conspiracy-mongers. Maybe I misunderstood the import of his comment.

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 10:43 AM • permalink

  28. interesting how -when the Communists fell in U.S.S.R. and Russia became a “democracy”-files revealed that the Communist Party in Australia WERE being funded by the Communist Regime in Russia.
    They were interacting with it and influencing it.
    The anti communists in Australia were criticised for making that up but it was true. Reds under the beds eh? Well yeah.

    Posted by crash on 2006 08 28 at 10:47 AM • permalink

  29. Re Area 51, yeah, well its kind of a Potemkin Soviet Union they have there.  The great thing about the USSR is you only need a couple of crappy concrete apartment blocks, a big social realist worker statue (concrete or bronze, doesn’t matter), a Lenin and an ornate Palace of the People, a couple of Ladas, a motorcade and some missile trucks.  Keep the cameras rolling while the latter circle the set, and you’re good.

      I could tell you how I know all this, but then my skinny naked big-headed pals would have to abduct you and anally probe you.

    Posted by crittenden on 2006 08 28 at 10:50 AM • permalink

  30. Tsk.  You people are missing the point.  If all the boogie men are pretend, then you, like, don’t really have to be scared of anything.  And you can laugh and point fingers at people who actually take things like terrorists and nuclear bombs seriously.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 08 28 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  31. #‘s 20,27 Paul Zrimsek, paco - if that’s the case I apologise. I still hold to my point about the “sheeple” however.

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 08 28 at 11:23 AM • permalink

  32. OK, that’s it. Who leaked the Area 51 stuff?

    Besides, Area 51 was fake. It was a 60 square mile illusion, made of canvas, papier mache and paint. Oooopppss.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 08 28 at 11:28 AM • permalink

  33. 31: Oh, I agree with your comment about the idiot and his “sheeple”. And for the interested outsider, why would there be any appreciable number of Kiwis living in Australia? How can they tear themselves away from all that warm, wooly socialism?

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 12:12 PM • permalink

  34. I was kidding. When they do get around to building the Potemkin Soviet Union it will be in Vegas, not in Area 51.

    Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 08 28 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  35. #33, Paco dont you know the Kiwi national anthem is “I still call Australia home.”

    Area 51? Isnt that where they test the Israeli ‘rust bombs’?

    Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 08 28 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  36. #34: And I, for one, will be there to try my hand at that popular Soviet game, “Stalingrad Hold ‘Em”.

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  37. Area 51 is even linked to a strange summer ritual eagerly followed by many Americans, including me.

    Posted by paco on 2006 08 28 at 01:25 PM • permalink

  38. Paco—thanks for the link. I always thought Area 51 was located in New Mexico. Now that I know it is in Nevada, the staged Apollo landing and the fake Soviet Union are both beginning to make sense.

    Posted by Forbes on 2006 08 28 at 04:17 PM • permalink

  39. #38, you were probably thinking of Roswell, where the aliens merely dropped by for a cup of coffee and a browse through the postcard rack.  Area 51 is where they do R&D for the Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG).  Closer to Vegas for those long weekends.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 08 28 at 05:41 PM • permalink

  40. If communism was so harmless, why did Adamski regularly excuse himself that he ‘only joined for a brief time’ to that party? 
    He’s either getting Alzheimer’s, or reverting to type.
    Is he going to re-join the CP now, to give some phantom opposition to Bushowarditler?
    How about two big books from you [at last] Phil?  Call them
    ‘The Joy and Value of Communism’
    ‘The Great Islamofascist CIA Hoax’.

    Trouble is, Adamski can only sustain his non-arguments for a single page.

    Posted by Barrie on 2006 08 28 at 07:17 PM • permalink

  41. #24 Thanks for the links, Mike. Scary reading.

    Posted by Barrie on 2006 08 28 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  42. #24 I agree, good links. Here are some other on-topic articles from National Review:
    Stanley Kurtz says that if/when Iran gets the bomb, fallout shelters are set to make a comeback, and it will spell the end of the doves as a political force.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 28 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  43. Poor Philly makes a tool of himself in the Australian again today. Busy putting the kiss of death on the smiling death pixie,ie. Kevin Rudd, by talking up his credentials as a future leader of the opposition.
    Doing his usual, pathetic bleating about the religous people voying according to their beliefs. The audacity of the proles….

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 08 29 at 01:13 AM • permalink

  44. 40. Trouble is, Adamski can only sustain his non-arguments for a single page.

    Thank God for small mercies.

    Posted by dover_beach on 2006 08 29 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  45. #4 Ushie

    Apparently this democracy allows a certain Alan Moore to express his…ideas, I suppose I’ll have to use the word “ideas”...in public, without stoning him or laughing at him in his presence.

    I’d laugh at him in his presence (as well as here).

    Posted by kae on 2006 08 29 at 05:18 AM • permalink

  46. Crittenden, sir, your “pretend” post reminded me of that old joke (stop me if you’ve heard this):

    “The principle of Communist economy: the authorities pretend they are paying wages, workers pretend they are working.”

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 29 at 05:21 AM • permalink

  47. #21 Crash, so I can save myself some time and erase 4 Corners this week without watching it?

    Best ABC or SBS QUOTE OF THE WEEK
    “during the so-called Great War.”

    Well, if it was the so-called Great War, what was it called then?

    Someone should ‘splain to them what “so-called” means.

    Posted by kae on 2006 08 29 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  48. Q1 - Why do Lada’s have demisters on the back windscreen?

    Q2 - Why do Lada’s have rear windscreen wipers?

    A1 - To stop your hands from freezing to the glass when you are pushing it.

    A2 - So you can see who is pushing you.

    Or are these just propaganda from Area 51?

    Posted by kae on 2006 08 29 at 06:44 AM • permalink

  49. #40 Oh dear me no,Phat was oiling up 7.30 over Don Chipp -he was described as “broadcaster (hey they forgot their name) and WRITER.”

    Posted by crash on 2006 08 29 at 09:08 AM • permalink

  50. #47 “so-called” is a new journalistic trick. It’s a way of giving something it’s well known name while not endorsing that name yourself.
    For example, the War on Terror is actually the “War on Terror” because that’s what George Bush called it when he declared it. Therefore the name is legit and it should be reported as such. But what to do if you’re a hand-wringing peacenik who doesn’t agree with the war? Qualify with “so-called.”
    I didn’t know they’ve started doing it with World War I (“So-called Great War”). I guess it’s also the “so-called First World War,”, followed by the “So-called Second World War”. Others include the so-called Cold War, the so-called Boer war, so-called Vietnam war, so-called Napoleonic Wars, etc.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 29 at 10:36 AM • permalink

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