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Johannesburg is one of nine cities that in a couple of weeks will host Al Gore’s Concerts Against Warmening. Naturally:

Johannesburg recorded its first confirmed snowfall for almost 26 years overnight as temperatures dropped below freezing in South Africa’s largest city.

In other musical warmening news, Turkey is back in.

(Via Harry B.)

UPDATE. Correction; Turkey is out:

Less than three weeks after Al Gore, the environmental campaigner and former vice president, visited Istanbul to announce its participation in the round-the-world Live Earth concerts on July 7, organizers announced yesterday that the city had been dropped from the roster of nine sites because of a lack of interest coupled with security concerns in advance of general elections on July 22, Reuters reported. ... In South Africa, organizers seeking to stimulate lagging ticket sales moved the Live Earth concert to the 18,000-seat Coca-Cola Dome in Johannesburg from a site 45 minutes by car from the city, Reuters reported.

UPDATE II. Has actual scientist Reid Bryson seen Gore’s film?

“Don’t make me throw up,” he said. “It is not science. It is not true.”

Posted by Tim B. on 06/27/2007 at 08:35 PM
  1. A while back someone predicted snow in Sydney when AG was due in town on July 4th (as I recall). We shall see.

    Posted by phil_b on 2007 06 27 at 08:46 PM • permalink

  2. Great place for alGor, Istanbul.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 27 at 09:00 PM • permalink

  3. The way the weather is shaping here in NSW, it doesn’t seem Algore will be bringing a warm snap to Sydney on July 4. Low pressure systems are all over the map at present down in the roaring 40s, all inevitably making their way up the east coast with loads of arctic air temperatures.

    Al and the usual 30-year cooling cycle seem to have coincided, much to Al’s chagrin.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 27 at 09:10 PM • permalink

  4. At a press conference on June 12 with concert-architect and former US Vice President Al Gore present, the venue for the Turkey concert was instead announced as the Yedikule Dungeons

    Sounds appropriate ...

    Posted by peter m on 2007 06 27 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  5. Would it be too rude/mean to pray for drenching rain on July 7 (when Live Earth is on ?)

    I’ll be doing my own little version of a rain dance for sure !!!

    Geeze it’d be funny if there was a deluge..

    PS Trying to stay warm and dry in Sydney town is quite a challenge at the mo.

    Posted by Wacko on 2007 06 27 at 09:18 PM • permalink

  6. #2, that would be Istanbullshit.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 27 at 09:19 PM • permalink

  7. I wonder when the last time the Bosphorus Strait froze over was?

    Posted by Hucbald on 2007 06 27 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  8. Thanks to Margot’s Maid for providing those policy guidlines from the ABC, particularly this one:
    7.4.1 The ABC is committed to impartiality: where topical and factual content deals
    with a matter of contention or public debate, a diversity of principal relevant
    perspectives should be demonstrated across a network or platform in an
    appropriate timeframe.

    There! I feel reassured that when they do get around to showing “The Great Global Warming Swindle” that discussion of it afterwards will be with the same reverence shown to Mr Gore’s Opus. Did anyone hear anybody on the ABC question the assertions of “An Inconvenient Truth”? (It has been around for the best part of a year now, and has the status of holy writ).
    If not, then impartiality demands that none of them question, undermine or otherwise attack “Swindle” either. No ifs, no buts. No panels invited by the ABC’s steering committees, no Tim Flannery, no compere pushing the agendum.
    “Oh, perhaps we better include both films in a discussion group wankfest.” A bit late for that, girls and boys.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 06 27 at 09:27 PM • permalink

  9. Give me snow, Joanna
    Snow, Joanna
    Give me snow, Joanna
    ‘Fore the warming comes…

    (With apologies to Eddy Grant)

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 27 at 09:33 PM • permalink

  10. Live Earth and Earth Hour combined would be a good gig for Sydney. A switch-off opportunity to put creds on the line for PeteG & the Oils, Keith Kidman and such. Otherwise they’re all piss and wind.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 27 at 09:40 PM • permalink

  11. At a press conference on June 12 with concert-architect and former US Vice President Al Gore present, the venue for the Turkey concert was instead announced as the Yedikule Dungeons . . .

    B-b-but where will they put the Turkish denialists?

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 27 at 10:03 PM • permalink

  12. Yeldan said they are now planning to make the İstanbul concert free of charge,

    Unless they also provide free hashish and a platoon of belly dancers, I bet they don’t draw anybody at all.

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 27 at 10:10 PM • permalink

  13. Excellent item here about growing numbers of sceptical scientists.

    Gun quote:

    Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government, recently detailed his conversion to a skeptic. “I devoted six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian government to estimate carbon emissions from land use change and forestry…

    Evans noted how he benefited from climate fears as a scientist. “And the political realm in turn fed money back into the scientific community. By the late 1990’s, lots of jobs depended on the idea that carbon emissions caused global warming. Many of them were bureaucratic, but there were a lot of science jobs created too. I was on that gravy train, making a high wage in a science job that would not have existed if we didn’t believe carbon emissions caused global warming. And so were lots of people around me; and there were international conferences full of such people. And we had political support, the ear of government, big budgets, and we felt fairly important and useful (well, I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet!  But starting in about 2000, the last three of the four pieces of evidence outlined above fell away or reversed,” Evans wrote.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 27 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  14. Snow in Jo’eys… well I’ll be bedondered.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 06 27 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  15. Must….fight…..urge…..make….comment…..about…..Johannesburg…..all…..white….

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 27 at 10:20 PM • permalink

  16. Yeah, Turkey is all on board until you actually show up off their coast with all your gear needing to be unloaded and transported on their roads, then, all the sudden, they just don’t have enough votes in their legislature to allow you to proceed.

    Then, of course, they’ll still demand all the credits and benefits of being your partner, without actually having done anything to earn it.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 27 at 10:25 PM • permalink

  17. That picture of Al Gore on the Turkish link . . . does anybody else think Al’s head is starting to look like a giant thumb? Al Gore: strutting his stuff!

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 27 at 10:30 PM • permalink

  18. The only good turkey is one that is deep fried, Grimmy.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 27 at 10:31 PM • permalink

  19. We may make the OZ news again, Grimmy…:).

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 27 at 10:32 PM • permalink

  20. It’s punishmnet for sending a second string Springbok team to take on the Wallabies. Hope they all get frostbite and their appendages fall off. Bunch of inbred, hippo humping, lager louts.

    Although it’s probably the best thing to happen to Joburg, ever. Maybe all the gangsters trigger fingers will seize. That place is such a toilet it needs a dual flush button installed.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 27 at 10:33 PM • permalink

  21. Would it be too rude/mean to pray for drenching rain on July 7 (when Live Earth is on ?)

    PS Trying to stay warm and dry in Sydney town is quite a challenge at the mo.
    Posted by Wacko on 2007 06 28 at 01:18 PM •

    I’m in a Masters program that was split between NZ and Aus.  I’ve ended up in Aus quite a bit before everyone else and one of the girls in the program is quite torqued that I have no intention of going anywhere near this thing.  That added to the lack of regard I have for her kinda makes my day :)

    Posted by TattooedIntellectual on 2007 06 27 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  22. Speaking of snow, how come you Aussies didn’t tell us that Australian Christmas is June 25? What, I have to go and learn it from Fake Steve Jobs?

    Anyhow, Happy Belated Australian Christmas.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 27 at 10:47 PM • permalink

  23. brett_l:

    It turns out that the foreign devils down under also celebrate Christmas on Dec 25.

    Now the real question is, which Dec 25 is the proper Dec 25? Nothing like a dateline to mess things up.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 27 at 10:57 PM • permalink

  24. brett l, I missed Oz Xmas too, June 25? Who knew. Last I heard, restaurants here do this “Xmas in July” on the first Saturday after the winter solstice, which is on or about June 22. That makes it the day after tomorrow. Who cares? December 25 does OK for me and Santa.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 27 at 10:58 PM • permalink

  25. Is it just me or does Christmas in July come earlier every year?

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 27 at 11:02 PM • permalink

  26. ``Concerts co-founder Cengiz-han Yeldan…’‘

    That means ``Genghis-Khan From-the-Wind,’’ and is that a cool name, or what?

    And Paco’s right:  Gore’s neck is as wide as his head now.  It makes him look like an alien trying to disguise himself as a human but not quite getting the details right.

    Posted by Sonetka's Mom on 2007 06 27 at 11:06 PM • permalink

  27. #26: Ah! You mean, like this fellow?

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 27 at 11:19 PM • permalink

  28. All I know is that Santa don’t come in the Summer. You can put that right up there w/ ‘Charlie Don’t Surf’ in your list of positive negations. QED, Christmas happens the 25th day of the month containing the Winter Solstice. I’m sure the first Australians from England just hid their kids presents until December 25, and the conspiracy has blossomed from there.

    And I have the scientific models to prove it.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 27 at 11:22 PM • permalink

  29. Al Gore should just stay in the northern hemisphere and do us all a favour.

    The southern winter’s cold enough already.  Johannesburg has its first snowfall in yonks and in Sydney it’s still extremely chilly, with more snow on the nearby Blue Mountains, another gale heading our way and cold winds sweeping in from the blizzards in the Snowy Mountains down south.

    Frankly, I’m looking forward to watching “The Great Global Warming Swindle” and hope it’s a bitterly freezing night when Aunty shows it, although I’m looking forward even more to seeing how the Collective presents it and the disdainful smirks patronising condescending  impartial discussion afterwards.

    #8, blogstrop (and Margos Maid).  You can see just how closely ABC staff follow its impartiality guidelines via Mal Brough’s interview with Red Kerry last night.  Transcript here

    Posted by ann j on 2007 06 27 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  30. Al Gore must really have pissed off somebody in a previous life, because he’s dragging cold weather around with him like the chains on Marley’s Ghost.  Funny you should mention Christmas.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 27 at 11:38 PM • permalink

  31. #6 anthony_r

    #2, that would be Istanbullshit.

    Or “occupied Constantinople”, take your pick.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 27 at 11:44 PM • permalink

  32. Heading for the barn, to rest my steed…BUT.

    I do want to say to Texas Bob, and those, ALL of those defending our freedoms. AND TB may read this thread, before I awaken (I hope)

    Texas Bob made a statement in another thread paraphrasing “You’re a mean and vicious man, El Cid, that’s why I admire you”. Surely that was said in jest.

    It is I and people all around the world, that admire YOU and people like you, Texas Bob. Not because you are “mean and “vicious” (again he stated so in jest), but because you are a professional military officer.

    Cool, calm and collected, you and others like you, lay your life on the line, for people like US. You give US the opportunity to type, you give us the opportunity in our great nations to do what we do everyday and enjoy OUR freedoms. Thank You, Texas Bob and all others like you.

    You are a fine man and ALL of us are proud of you and what you do.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 28 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  33. #13 There’s more of that sort of thing in this, Margo’s Maid. Here courtesy of Conservative Grapevine.

    Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud
    Interview with Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner.
    June 22, 2007 EIR Economics 33

    Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner is the head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden. He is past president (1999-2003) of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution, and leader of the Maldives Sea Level Project. Dr. Mörner has been studying the sea level and its effects on coastal areas for some 35 years. He was interviewed by Gregory Murphy on June 6 for EIR.

    And there’s even some Australian content:

    This tree, which I showed in the documentary, is interesting. This is a prison island, and when people left the island, from the ‘50s, it was a marker for them, when they saw this tree alone out there, they said, “Ah, freedom!” They were allowed back. And there have been writings and talks about this. I knew that this tree was in that terrible position already in the 1950s. So the slightest rise, and it would have been gone. I used it in my writings and for television. You know what happened? There came an Australian sea-level team, which was for the IPCC and against me. Then the students pulled down the tree by hand! They destroyed the evidence. What kind of people are those? And we came to launch this film, “Doomsday Called Off,” right after, and the tree was still green. And I heard from the locals that they had seen the people who had pulled it down. So I put it up again, by hand, and made my TV program. I haven’t told anybody else, but this was the story.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 28 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  34. Here’s a good clip of Al Gore contradicting himself on Saddam Hussein.Gore Memory Challenged

    Posted by zefal on 2007 06 28 at 12:06 AM • permalink

  35. #33 andycanuck

    A lynch mob came after a tree? The Gaia-worshippers have lost their minds!

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 28 at 12:08 AM • permalink

  36. They claimed that they were just “rendering it carbon neutral”, Spiny Norman.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 28 at 12:38 AM • permalink

  37. It’s snowing right now just 100km west of Sydney.

    Perfect weather for a BigAl Preachey CO2 burning extravaganza. Freezing their buns off while chanting about goobal warmening - only the truly insane could take this bunch seriously.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 06 28 at 01:03 AM • permalink

  38. #36

    Heh. An ex-tree? So does “rendered carbon neutral” now join “ceased to be”, “expired”, “gone to meet its maker”, “a stiff”, “bereft of life”, “rests in peace”, “pushing up the daisies”, and “rung down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible”?

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 28 at 01:03 AM • permalink

  39. #34 zefal
    That clip of Gore contradicting himself is excellent. How do these dicks continue to go around criticising Bush for prosecuting a war for the exact views that they themselves once held? (when it was seen as the ‘right thing to do’)

    YouTube also has similar contradicting footage of Hillary Clinton supporting the Iraq war.

    Gore’s hypocrisy is vomitous!

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 06 28 at 01:14 AM • permalink

  40. #32 I second that El Cid!

    May you and your fine steed have a most excellent rest.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 28 at 01:52 AM • permalink

  41. Another algorithm......

    Posted by Fast Eddie on 2007 06 28 at 03:04 AM • permalink

  42. AlGore changes Joburg into Snowburg ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 28 at 03:12 AM • permalink

  43. Oh wouldn’t it be glorious if it snowed on Gore’s bore-fest? He will find a way to blame it on global warming but it would be fun.

    Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2007 06 28 at 03:41 AM • permalink

  44. Why, thank you El Cid. That was really, really thoughtful, and would bring a tear to a glass eye. 
    My pleasure!

    And thank you too Lady Ash_!

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 28 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  45. #44 You are most sincerely welcome, Texas Bob.

    I have the highest amount of praise and respect for those out there defending me and my way of life. Allow me once again to say “Thank you!”

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 28 at 04:24 AM • permalink

  46. Gosh, ma’am. You’re making me blush! You are most welcome!

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 28 at 04:40 AM • permalink

  47. When you make it to Australia Texas Bob, I’ll shout you a beer or twenty four.

    Ladies like me like to keep our men refreshed.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 28 at 04:48 AM • permalink

  48. #47 ...I’ll shout you a beer or twenty four.

    My dear, you now have my full attention.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 06 28 at 05:03 AM • permalink

  49. #48 I figure you’ve earned them.

    Besides, I’m spending nothing on alcohol these days, so my budget is well in surplus.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 28 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  50. Believer scientist in Bryson story: “If you saw smoke in your house, it would be irresponsible not to get your family out, right?”

    Warmenists, stand by your spacecraft—flee, flee!

    Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 06 28 at 05:49 AM • permalink

  51. I wish Al Gore would visit Florida. We’ve had some broiling hot weather lately. Then again, we’ve got a 60% chance of rain today, so maybe his plane flew over.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 06 28 at 06:04 AM • permalink

  52. #7

    I wonder when the last time the Bosphorus Strait froze over was?

    When Achilles kicked Hector in the icehole?

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 06 28 at 08:30 AM • permalink

  53. Turkey in, Turkey out.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 06 28 at 09:27 AM • permalink

  54. #30 RebeccaH

    Al Gore must really have pissed off somebody in a previous life, because he’s dragging cold weather around with him like the chains on Marley’s Ghost.

    Al is the Ancient Mariner and the climate weather is his albatross.

    Posted by CO² max on 2007 06 28 at 11:10 AM • permalink

  55. Al is the Ancient Mariner and the weather is his albatross.

    No. Gore is a Cold God. Chill winds and (ant-)arctic air masses love him, and want to be near him and caress him. No accounting for taste.

    Regards,
    Ric

    Posted by Ric Locke on 2007 06 28 at 11:23 AM • permalink

  56. They rebutted “the father of scientific climatology” with an “assistant professor.”

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 06 28 at 02:11 PM • permalink

  57. #54

    Al is the Ancient Mariner and the climate weather is his albatross.

    Or how about a Joe Btfsplk of Lil’ Abner fame?  So who is Joe?  Why he’s the World’s most loving friend and worst jinx who always travels with a dark cloud over his head.

    Well at least the jinx part fits. Perhaps we should all be focusing on the loving part so that Al fits the theory perfectly. Goebbel Warmists operate that way selectively gathering (fabricating if necessary) evidence to fit their theory.  Doing the same for Al will prove the new theory.  Yup, that’s it:

    New Theory Al Gore could be Joe Btfsplk

    Posted by Wand on 2007 06 28 at 06:17 PM • permalink

  58. Breaking News:

    Michael Costa (NSW Treasurer) has called Tim Flannery an Idiot. The story is in the Fairfax Press too!!

    Well I didn’t think I’d see the day I’d agree with something Costa does but perhaps, as we have been continually warned, we have now reached that tipping point.

    And this from the Treasurer of the NSW State Government which recently set up a new government mega department called the Department of Environment and Climate Change!

    Climate Change? - What’s That? I wonder what Costa thinks as he signs off on the State budget allocating funds to this mob? A waste of money perhaps?

    What a hoot!

    And Flannery’s reaction: “My reaction is just lofty disdain.”  Say no more.

    Posted by Wand on 2007 06 28 at 06:41 PM • permalink

  59. And another one .... Does anyone know if Gore or Flannery have been near Canberra over the last few days?

    Because today’s news talks of a Mammoth rescue for woman in blizzard

    From the story: “A woman suffering an asthma attack inside her home sparked a massive rescue operation that resulted in 29 people battling through a blizzard for almost 10 hours.

    Snow and storms had killed the power and trapped the 24-year-old in darkness at her property in Michelago, a small town about 50 kilometres south of Canberra.”

    “An army of rescue teams battled through the waist-deep snow to reach her, bringing with them three four-wheel-drive ambulances, four firetrucks, snowmobiles, sleds and chainsaws.”

    Ok Gore, Flannery.  Come clean.  Where are you?  Have you been in this area or are your proxy disciples taking up your cause?

    We need to know so that we can take preventive action.

    Posted by Wand on 2007 06 28 at 06:50 PM • permalink

  60. 58   Climate Change? - What’s That?

    It’s climate Chaos now. Heavy rain, strong wind, anything unusual—climate chaos.

    In a year or so it will be: “Global warming? No, no, you heard wrong. We were saying global warning. Just, you know, warning you-all about, er ... problems and stuff. Around the globe.”

    Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2007 06 28 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  61. ABC Radio Melbourne presenter Jon Faine just linked the floods in East Gippsland to ‘the whole climate change thing’. Seriously.

    Posted by CO² max on 2007 06 28 at 07:02 PM • permalink

  62. My mistake, he actually used the term ‘global warming’. (Jeez, their brainwashing is getting into my head too.)

    Posted by CO² max on 2007 06 28 at 07:06 PM • permalink

  63. #
    Just thought these would look better <i>in the right frikkin’ thread…</i.

    “They say it snows, down in AAAAfricaaaa…”


    “I know a need a small vacation,
    but it don’t look like rain.
    And if it snows that stretch down south
    won’t ever stand the strain…
    so I need you more than want you,
    and I want you for all time…
    but the Soweto lineman
    is still on the liiiiiiiine….!”

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 06 28 at 08:20 PM • permalink

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