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“I WAS TRYING TO BLOW HIS BRAINS OUT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO”

Seven tales of female empowerment from Mary Katharine Ham.

UPDATE. Miriam writes:

This reminds me of a true story which took place in New Jersey several years ago.

A little old lady, a widow, was playing cards with a group of friends when an intruder tried to break into her house. She warned him to get lost, and went back to her game.

Later in the evening, he tried to break in again, and the stout codgerette shot him. Whether he was killed, I don’t know—I think not. But he was effectually stopped.

The old lady was arrested. Seems it is illegal to have a gun in Paterson, NJ. After a public outcry, the charges were dropped.

Mess with us old ladies at your peril.

Posted by Tim B. on 09/26/2006 at 02:03 AM
  1. ok this is going to be a USA pro-gun thread, yikes I’m out before Andrea gets me :)

    Posted by spyder on 2006 09 26 at 03:15 AM • permalink

  2. As they sing in Chicago, “I fired two warning shots into his head”. 

    Of course, the people who really should be worried about an armed female population are cheatin’ husbands etc etc I’m not pro-gun either, so I’ll head off with Spyder.

    Women showing they are strong is more effective than a million RTN marches, though. It’s too much to hope that morons wouldn’t be hiding out to hurt people in such a way.

    Posted by abcd on 2006 09 26 at 04:13 AM • permalink

  3. I’m out with you, spyder.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 09 26 at 04:23 AM • permalink

  4. I don’t like to think of it as something as stupidly PC as women’s empowerment.  I prefer to think of it as the empowerment of the good guys—male and female.  It may come to a point where such personal protection is all there is between me and some Islamic fascist trying to force me to…whatever they are trying to force me to do.  If I’m going out, I’m taking someone with me.  This is why Americans are becoming even more wedded to their guns since 9/11.  If the government can’t, or won’t, do their job, there is nothing else left.  Ever notice that every single totalitarian country began by disarming their citizens. 

    You guys can run, but you can’t hide forever.  Besides, why should I have to suffer because there may be a nutter or two out there?  There is always a nutter or two.  That is no excuse to abrogate my right to self-defense, it justifies it.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 09 26 at 04:40 AM • permalink

  5. Good stories, even better comments.

    Posted by phil_b on 2006 09 26 at 05:35 AM • permalink

  6. Why that’s terrible. Pointing guns and people is so unladylike. They should have tried to dissuade those men with love. Sure, some of the women might have ended up dead or raped, but it’s a small price to pay for not frightening away people with nasty old guns.

    There, is that good enough for spyder, stop continental drift, and any of you other “oooh, I’m afraid of guns so I’m going to run away! run away!” from a post on women defending themselves from crime folks?

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 09 26 at 05:37 AM • permalink

  7. You could say I just “fired a warning shot.” Heh heh.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 09 26 at 05:49 AM • permalink

  8. hehe andrea, see why i ran out, you shoot straight from the hip

    Posted by spyder on 2006 09 26 at 05:52 AM • permalink

  9. I’m not against guns.

    I like Rule  303

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 09 26 at 06:15 AM • permalink

  10. First they came for the people without guns
    And I didn’t speak up - cos I had one and didn’t need them.

    But i’ll heed Andrea’s warning shot.

    Posted by Francis H on 2006 09 26 at 06:41 AM • permalink

  11. Ever notice that every single totalitarian country began by disarming their citizens.
    Yes, it has been a hot topic here in Australia. Not that I think (like some moonbats) that JH is a totalitarian, but it is a matter of trusting your government to do what’s necessary.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 09 26 at 06:54 AM • permalink

  12. These stories do not cover it by half.  There are 10’s of thousands of instances recorded each year where a crime is foiled by simply showing a gun (done that twice myself in 30 years) or where the criminals suspect that their intended target is armed.

    For those of you who aren’t interested in self-defense, fine.  It gives the dirtbags someone to do…so I don’t have to shoot them.

    Posted by trainer on 2006 09 26 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  13. The Threat and The Response: A play in three parts.

    You’re walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

    Liberal Answer:
    Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to
    attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does this send to society and my children? Is it possible he’d be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

    Conservative Answer:
    BANG!

    Texan’s Answer:
    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
    click… (sounds of reloading).
    Wife: “Sweetheart, he looks like he’s still moving, what do you kids think?”
    Son: “Mom’s right Dad, I saw it too…”
    BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
    click.
    Daughter: “Nice group, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips?”

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 26 at 09:24 AM • permalink

  14. I’m with saltydog—this is about self-protection, not gun ownership.  If one of those women had beaten the crap out of an attacker with a baseball bat, or slashed him to death with a kitchen knife, would y’all be running from this thread?  The attacker would be just as defeated, hmmmmm?

    ...it is a matter of trusting your government to do what’s necessary.

    blogstrop, I would like to trust my government to do what is necessary.  But I’m certain that it can’t.  Not because it won’t, but because it physically can not protect me all the time.  Indeed, in some cases, I prefer that it do nothing at all….too much government turns into a nanny state.

    In other words, I do not expect the government to provide me with a personal bodybuard around the clock. 

    Or do you expect heavy police patrols and aggressive law enforcement in your neighborhood?

    And so on.  Ultimately, the only person that protect you….is yourself.  Relying exclusively on taxpery funded security systems is a ticket to being a crime victim.  Ask the citizens of, oh, England, say.

    Do I advocate you buying a firearm now?  No!  If you don’t have the steel in your blood to use a firearm, it’s worse than useless to own one.

    On the other hand, don’t knock your fellow citizens who are responsible gun owners simply because they are “pro-gun”.  Believe it or not, the responsible, non-criminal, gun owner in your neighborhood is as much a crime deterrent as that police patrol…..because the typical crook fears the law abiding citizen who shoots back.  It cuts into their profits, you see. 

    And at far less cost, I must note.  He (or she) pays for that weapon and ammo out of their own pocket.  A public service, as it were.

    Good on these ladies…..we need more of them.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 26 at 10:05 AM • permalink

  15. Most people on this side of the pond agree entirely with the points presented on gun ownership….and gun use in the situations described.
    It is the bullshit John Wayne delivery of some of the posters that screams all hat and no cowboy.

    Posted by Strewth on 2006 09 26 at 10:18 AM • permalink

  16. Here’s a video of Grandma out at the range.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2006 09 26 at 10:36 AM • permalink

  17. Look…one of the first pieces of artwork that I saw come out of 9/11 was from a Free Republic lass, just in high school, who drew the Statue of Liberty holding a smoking gun in one hand and a baby swaddled in the American flag in the other arm…and the caption “The most dangerous place in the world is between a mother and her children.”

    I dont think I need to say anymore.  It certainly doesnt make one more stronger to say “Ew, guns, Im going to run away because I want the higher ground.”  Honey…that thief/rapist/jihadist will come to get your higher ground if he wants it.  Where will you go then…and are you prepared to defend it?

    In Texas, the defense “he needed killin’” is still a valid one…

    Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 09 26 at 10:53 AM • permalink

  18. It is the bullshit John Wayne delivery of some of the posters that screams all hat and no cowboy.

    Which ones, Strewth?  I don’t see any here.  Or do you mean other threads?

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 26 at 10:53 AM • permalink

  19. I think Strewth is saying he gets turned on by John Wayne and he doesnt like it when someone makes promises but dont follow through…

    Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 09 26 at 10:55 AM • permalink

  20. It comes down to this.  I don’t want to be in a shopping mall or a MacDonald’s when some nutjob goes postal and starts shooting everybody, and have no means to defend myself.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 09 26 at 11:03 AM • permalink

  21. Use of a firearm does not even have to be lethal to be effective.  I have a Mossberg 500 for home defense-first round is non-lethal, after that buck shot.  Look, I recognize that it is possible to make a mistake with a firearm, so I have the non-lethal round first.  But if I hit someone with the rubber pellets and they keep coming, then I need to be prepared to kill them and I will if necessary.

    In any event most people know the sound of a shotgun pump being worked and will get the message.

    Posted by 68W40 on 2006 09 26 at 12:15 PM • permalink

  22. Thank you, 91B30, for demonstrating my point concerning responsible firearm owners.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 26 at 12:55 PM • permalink

  23. In Texas, you do have to be careful about shooting in self defense.  They are increasing the penalties for littering.

    Posted by JAWolf on 2006 09 26 at 01:06 PM • permalink

  24. In any event most people know the sound of a shotgun pump being worked and will get the message.

    I have a vague recollection of a scene from a movie, two men in a very dark room, long silent pause, then “click-slide-click”. Another long pause. Then: “That’s one hell of a sound, ain’t it, boy?”

    Yes. One hell of a sound. It gives me goosebumps thinking about it.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2006 09 26 at 01:08 PM • permalink

  25. Wow, sweet little Mary K. knows how to make a man stand at attention in his seat.

    Posted by Mark V. on 2006 09 26 at 02:53 PM • permalink

  26. LA Sheriff’s Dept. SOP

    BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM

    “Stop or I’ll shoot!”

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 09 26 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  27. #20 RebeccaH Now, I’m not looking for an argument, but do you really go to the mall or Maccas with a gun, so you can defend yourself?

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 09 27 at 03:26 AM • permalink

  28. er, assuming you weren’t being faciteous.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 09 27 at 03:28 AM • permalink

  29. As the Great Bobness sang in “Hurricane”:

    in paterson that’s just the way things go, if you’re black, you don’t wanna show up on the street, unless you wanna draw the heat…

    Sounds like they don’t wanna show up on old ladies front poches either.

    Posted by James Hamilton on 2006 09 27 at 05:46 AM • permalink

  30. er, assuming you weren’t being faciteous.

    And if you aren’t certain about a wmoman being armed, SCD, what do you think a potential attacker believes?  Makes him/her nervous, I truly hope.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 27 at 09:42 AM • permalink

  31. BTW, I forgot to note that the first woman cited in Tim’s link didn’t use a gun against her attacker…..she used her bare hands.

    Kind of hard to leave those at home.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 27 at 09:45 AM • permalink

  32. Unless you live in Iran, JeffS!

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 09 27 at 01:45 PM • permalink

  33. Oh, yeah!  Forgot about that.  Silly me!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 09 27 at 02:27 PM • permalink

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