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Associated Press headline:
Rockets hit Lebanon despite cease-fire
Why, those rule-shunning Israelis! But wait; here’s the story:
Highlighting the fragility of the peace, Hezbollah guerrillas fired at least 10 Katyusha rockets that landed in southern Lebanon early Tuesday ...
Via James Taranto. By the way, if Israel’s attacks were so brutally disproportionate, how come Hezbollah is claiming victory?
By the way, if Israel’s attacks were so brutally disproportionate, how come Hezbollah is claiming victory?
It’s an Arab habit.
The Arabs routinely declare victory even when they lose.
The Egyptians for example are genuinely convinced they won the war in 1972. Hamas is convinced it is winning, even thought its leaders get picked off one by one.
Iraq? Victory. Afghanistan? Victory. On it goes.If the Arabs would learn to accept when they have been defeated, like Germany and Japan, they could get on with the task of building a prosperous worthwhile country.
The Egyptians for example are genuinely convinced they won the war in 1972
My old man was working at the Amoco refinery at Pinkenba, Brisbane in during the Yom Kippur War. There was an Egyptian in the office who for almost two weeks was bragging on about how Israel would be annihilated by the Arabs. After day upon day of this my father finally cracked and said:
“Mate, pull yer f*cking head in. The ‘Gyppos haven’t beaten the Jews since The Red Sea caved in on the pharoah.”
At which point the whole office applauded.
I’m not really sure what your problem is with the AP headline, it’s not like they said they were Israeli rockets, why, they didn’t even hint at it, if you read it that way, it must be your anti-Semitism showing through…
/sarc
Posted by Not My Problem on 2006 08 16 at 10:41 AM • permalinkHighlighting the fragility of the peace, Hezbollah guerrillas fired at least 10 Katyusha rockets that landed in southern Lebanon early Tuesday
Well, at least the stupid bastards aim is improving. When you start lobbing at Damascus and/or Tehran, you will have it perfected.
Note to ‘Bollah, that may be lurking…Use the longer range missiles, for your adjusted targeting.
Have to tell these assholes, everything. Honest to God.
Lets see, the UN has brokered a deal between a known terrorist organisation that started a conflict with one of its members. It then condemms the nation for attacking the state harbouring the terrorist organisation, in addition calling the limited military actions taken “disproportionate”. The terrorist organisation built up a stockpile of thousands of rockets and built bunkers and strongpoints all over the south of Lebanon, while being “observed” by UN peace keepers?
The UN and France then broker a cease fire between a nation and a terrorist organisation and call it a “peace”. Lebanon refuses to use its own armed forces to disband or disarm the terrorist organisation, and the UN wont be there for about a month to “observe” again?
The terrorist organisation is still launching rockets at the Israeli army in Lebanon who are not that keen on letting Hizbollocks back within easy striking distance of the border.
And Koffing Anus says the ceasefire is “largely holding”
Move the UN to Israels border region, see how long they like a few “innefectual rockets”, maybe only 3 or 4 a day falling around their shiny, well padded, 5 star asses.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 08 16 at 10:49 AM • permalink#10 It will take them approximately one nanosecond to pull out. That’s how long it took them to pull out of Iraq when someone other than Iraqis and Coalition soldiers was attacked. But they do bravely defend the right of Israel to sit down and shut up about those rockets…
Posted by Not My Problem on 2006 08 16 at 10:58 AM • permalinkre: #8
The headline refers to “rockets hitting Lebanon”. The AP, Reuters, CNN and the BBC have been railing against Israel for anything that she did within Lebanon. Now, Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, has violated the ceasefire, and the headline is not merely unclear, it bears resemblance to the ones that they’ve been posting for a month, exclusively against Israel.
That’s what’s wrong with it. They could’ve stated, “Hezbollah violates ceasefire”
“Hezbollah turns on its host country” ,“Terrorists defy UN” or perhaps, “militia accedes to demands to not target israel, and fires short, just to prove how nice they are”#12 Hence the “/sarc” tag. I guess I’ll have to be clearer about it next time.
Posted by Not My Problem on 2006 08 16 at 11:20 AM • permalinkI agree wholly with McQ and Hanes (your MMV). Let the Arab street pretend otherwise and continue to live in their fantasy world of Arab superiority. They talk more trash than American civil rights “leaders”.
Israel’s withdrawal from the Gaza was a switchhammer event. After the Palestinians demolished everything of value, elected a bunch of terrorist thugs to “lead” them and continued down a path of death and destruction, the rest of the world lost what was left of its patience.
And now we have another seminal moment as the onus switches to the Lebanese government and the UN. Section 8 of Resolution 1701 says in part:
Full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of July 27, 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese state;
Already we know this is not going to happen:
The arrangement taking shape among Lebanese politicians, military officials and Hezbollah would call for guerrillas to not carry weapons or use their heavily fortified bunkers to fire rockets. There would be no requirement to move weapons north of the Litani, for the time being. Link
The Resolution requires Israel to gradually withdraw as Lebanese and UN forces gradually deploy (IDF withdrawal has already begun). UN officials, speaking on condition of anonymity of course, say this will take a couple of days, even up to one week. However, Israeli intelligence assessments suggest that the UN-Lebanese deployment could take months. So far Israel hangs tough in its refusal to lift the airport and ports blockade and fully withdraw from the south until such time as the peacekeeping force is in place.
Will the UN and Lebanon be successful in keeping the peace? Stranger things have happened, I suppose, but at least for the time being I gotta go with the “hell no” crowd. But it is Hezbollah that now skates on thin ice. Should it renew its hostilities, and it will, it may well find that the wider world has lost its patience and will turn a shrugged shoulder and blind eye to whatever actions Israel finds necessary to take in its self-defense.
Many are calling for Olmert’s and Halutz’s heads and probably rightfully so. It’s reported that President Bush was enormously frustrated that the IDF didn’t hit the ground running and that the situation rapidly was becoming politically untenable for the US. I think the fact that Bush/Rice were able to craft and push through this particular resolution is to their credit, not detriment. And I expect that the next time Israel has to confront Hezbollah, it’ll be doing so under different leadership and with a far superior plan.
In the meanwhile, Bush, by doing the very thing that his critics assail him for not doing in the past (you know, going to the UN, forming an international coalition, choosing peacekeeping over warmongering, yada yada yada), has managed to both maintain an unqualified support for Israel and difuse a situation that was barrelling out of control. I score it a win/win.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 08 16 at 12:29 PM • permalink#15, I agree with you, Kyda. I have no doubt that Israel is going to have to go in again and roll up Hezbollocks’ carpet for good. Finally, the UN is going to have to put up or shut up, and I look for them to crash and burn spectacularly.
Even better, there are reports that the right people are now asking questions about all that “charity” money that went to the Palestinians. I believe that’s why no one is giving much to Lebanon now. And the world (meaning coalition countries) is going to be watching Iran and Syria like a hawk now to see what they try to slip in. Next time around it might be harder for Hez to wage war for lack of money and hardware.
#7
There was a smarmy little root-rat from Iraq who worked at the same place as me years ago. It was usually the better part of valour to get out of the lunchroom when he came in. First on the list of annoyances he brought was that he thought he was God’s gift to womankind so he was really quite sleazy. I think he knew everything (or thought he did) about everything. One day I wasn’t fast enough to get out of the lunchroom, it was full and I foolishly thought that there was safety in numbers. The conversation turned to Abdul Smarmy, as usual, and he said “When we invaded Kuwait…”. That was the last straw for me. I said “Oh, you were there?” He spluttered a bit and I said “I don’t have to listen to this crap.” and left. The gist of the “When we invaded Kuwait” story was that it was a victory and justified and, well, this bloke was studying in Australia when he invaded Kuwait.
#12 Blue Hen
That’s what’s wrong with it. They could’ve stated, “Hezbollah violates ceasefire”
“Hezbollah turns on its host country” ,“Terrorists defy UN” or perhaps, “militia accedes to demands to not target israel, and fires short, just to prove how nice they are”Nah, the only true headline would be:
“Ceasefire Violation: Hezbollah Misses Barn”
By the way, if Israel’s attacks were so brutally disproportionate, how come Hezbollah is claiming victory?
Probably because Israel is fighting a conventional ground war as if it was 1973. Bombing infrastucture & trying to disrupt supply lines ain’t gonna cut it. Israel’s security can’t be guaranteed by military force.
I’m currently reading Arabs at War, a very good history of the many wars Arab nations have fought from 1948-1991, and let me tell you, it’s a sad, sad story. There’s some bright spots, but they’re like hummocks of dry ground in the Great Dismal Swamp of Virginia—not that many of them and not very impressive.
So, bongoman, why does Hizbollah need all their rockets and weapons?
Tell you what, just keep playing hardcore Whack-a-Mole every time a Hizbollah head pops up and I’m willing to wait to see if Israel’s security is more guaranteed.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 08 16 at 09:49 PM • permalink#23 - Another informative piece on Arab militaries is Why Arabs Lose Wars.
#21, Bongoman clearly hasnt heard of my B-52 plan.
Run a couple of Arc Light missions over Lebanon. See if they still want to fight.
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 08 17 at 12:59 AM • permalink
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