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GUILT BORNE
The Guardian’s Roy Greenslade defends a fearless teller of truth:
The Independent’s Middle East correspondent, Robert Fisk, argues that western journalists bear a burden of guilt for the misreporting of the region. He cites several instances of the way in which Israeli spin dominates the narrative of Middle East reporting, and therefore give “a fictitious version of events.”
That would be the same Robert Fisk who claimed Israel dropped uranium bombs on Lebanon, and who also claimed Israeli missiles had pierced the very centre of the red cross on the roofs of two Red Cross ambulances, among other fictitious versions of events.
(Via Charlie G.)
Das Independent‘s resident Arabist propagandist Bobby Fisk is claiming other reporters are portraying “a fictitious version of events.”???
Oh, that’s just rich.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 11 14 at 12:41 PM • permalinkI think it’s his enormous brain trying to burst through his cranium, paco.
Posted by Tex Lovera on 2006 11 14 at 01:24 PM • permalinkAll I can say is, that Kool-Aid must be tasty.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 14 at 01:35 PM • permalinkFisk deplores “a kind of slackness in reporting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”...or in other words, unless you’re stridently anti-Israel you’re just not being objective, in his mind.
If any physicist working on multiple-alternative-universes theories ever needs one final piece to the puzzle, I suspect Fisk will be it.
Well, obviously Tim is too engrossed with talking with Tree Hugger Sister to think about even more egregious examples of terrible news reporting by Robert Fisk. For me the most notorious example of biased blatantly false reporting by Fisk was the time US troops had occupied the Baghdad Airport and he insisted that was ALL A LIE! He said he was right there in Baghdad and he knew for a fact that the US did not have the Airport. And yet while he was claiming it a lie, news reports showed camera footage of US troops occupying the Baghdad Airport.
Fisk should have been made to apologize and retire on a small pension for that major goof up. And yet we heard nothing about it. Certainly not from The Independent or 24 Rolls himself.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 11 14 at 01:38 PM • permalinkAs CNN has acknowledged, and as the Peter Arnett fiasco demonstrated, news organizations survive in the Middle East only by taking the Arab side. The Israelis will not kill you for negative reporting. So the fearless Western media are led around the Middle East by Arab stringers who usually work for the Government. Since the Israelis also conveniently speak English, it’s just so easy to get that tough story in Jerusalem.
Speak Truthiness to gullible Lefties
Lebanon is where Iranian Revolutionary Guards are supposed to have been pouring in from Tehran. The country’s National Symphony Orchestra has been playing Liszt, Tchaikovsky and Saint-Saens. And down here on the border with Israel, where 8,000 new missiles have supposedly arrived for the Hizbollah, the women are drying tobacco leaves in the sun.
The “centre for world terror” comes from the imagination of Ariel Sharon, Israel’s Prime Minister, who was flying to Washington last night for a warm welcome from President George Bush. The non-existent Revolutionary Guards and 8,000 missiles – at the weekend, the Israelis upped the figure to 10,000 then mysteriously brought it back to 8,000 – are the invention of Shimon Peres, the Israeli Foreign Minister.
In reality, there hasn’t been an Iranian Revolutionary Guard in Lebanon since 1984 – Mr Peres is just 18 years late with his facts. As for the missiles, the Hizbollah would like to know where they are.
Talk about cognitive dissonance. It’s the same thing when some BBC bigshot lectures the U.S. media on its war cheerleading and obsequiousness to the Bush administration.
The New York Times and other major media in the U.S. provided more effective opposition in the run up to the invasion of Iraq than did the Democrats.
You get the impression people like this must be getting different editions of the papers and magazines I see.
I’m currently reading “Flags of Our Fathers” by James Bradley. Concerning the flag raised on Iwo Jima, the NY Times got the initial story incorrect and much later, when the actual events were made known, portrayed the Marines as complicit liars despite the fact that the Marines had never made such claims in the first place.
I’m confident Fisk and The Independent will have a story implicating Israel (e.g. Joooos) in that nation’s own eventual destruction.
And even more about “truth” in the MSM from Lebanon:
http://tinyurl.com/y6d992
(Via LGF)Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 14 at 04:32 PM • permalink# 18 - Geoff,
“Can anyone cite an occasion when he has got something right?”Well, after he was assaulted by that Afghan mob in Pakistan, he implied that he deserved it. He was right about that, even if he doesn’t share my reasons for believing so.
Posted by EmilyJones on 2006 11 14 at 04:48 PM • permalinkI hesitate to raise this question, but I don’t know that anyone else has or will.
Is Fisk a daddy?
Has he passed on his cretin-class DNA to a new generation?
Has the world at least been spared the horror of dealing with Baby Bobfisks?Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 11 14 at 05:25 PM • permalinkBaghdad Bob: The Robert Fisk of spokesmen.
HT: Rebecca.
Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2006 11 14 at 05:27 PM • permalinkAlert Alert Alert
Can you fine people duck over to The Australian and leave a comment regarding SBS and ABC calling terrorists, terrorists.. My letter got published today and based on yesterday’s thread, Marilyn Sheepherd and friends should be along any second to insist it is Amerikkkka and Israel who are the ‘real terrorists’ and the ABC should be calling them Nazis.
Thanks.
#22 - My investigations conclude that Bob Fisk is still childless. However, not for want of trying. According to the man himself his sperm have been irradiated by cunning uranium fueled Jew missiles which made surgical strikes against his satin bag. Alternative sources dispute this and claim that his sperm are fine, but that his mating technique lacks a partner.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 14 at 09:10 PM • permalinkTotally offtopic - but I have been trying to play catch-up after a weekend of binging on XFiles - just read the post on the air guitars.
My fellow Americans, I am ASHAMED of you!! How could you let a post like that go by without a picture of the Beast of All Boingers, Opus and HIS air guitar? At LEAST a mention of Deathtongue!!
*shakes head*
An AAAAACK! to you!
Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 11 14 at 09:52 PM • permalink#32 - Good news, and thank you, Infidel.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 11 14 at 10:32 PM • permalinkTo Tim Blair - Shall we let the air groupies in now?
Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 11 14 at 10:38 PM • permalink”....western journalists bear a burden of guilt for the misreporting of the region.”[/i}
Greenslade seems to have had a moment of moral clarity here. Someone send him a congratualations card.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 14 at 11:13 PM • permalink#12 Good digging Rob Read. This was written ion 2002.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 14 at 11:21 PM • permalink</i>
Use the italics from above, you hoser, don’t do it manually. (Highlight the word and click the style you want.)Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 14 at 11:29 PM • permalinkAnd my [ / i ] that I keyed in front of the pointy bracket version that was printed closed the above, not the pointy bracket version.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 14 at 11:31 PM • permalinkCompletely off-topic, but topical.
The High Court has thrown out the appeal by Australia’s state governments against the federal industrial relations laws.
There are other ways of handling the employer-employee relationship, too.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 11 14 at 11:55 PM • permalinkO/T re: Alan Jones:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20761955-1702,00.html
Marcus Schmit is, I think, a.k.a. Marcus Schmidt.
Charming stuff.
#18 geoff
Could Fisk be the worst, most incompetent, bigoted and dishonest writer in the English language on the Middle East in our time?
No, J. K. Rowling completely misportrays the Middle East situation in her Harry Potter series. It’s so bad that only children read it.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 11 15 at 01:14 AM • permalink#43 Paco, I went to a blog comments section and a hockey game broke out.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 15 at 01:32 AM • permalink#18 geoff
Could Fisk be the worst, most incompetent, bigoted and dishonest writer in the English language on the Middle East in our time?
Nah, that’s our friend Antony. Fisk may be the most dishonest professional journalist in the English language, but in that he’s got competition from John Pilger, Alexander Cockburn and various other decrepit Marxist holdouts. I could probably think of some if I wanted to torture myself.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 11 15 at 01:43 AM • permalinkAnyone here old enough to remember the Goonshow. Maybe Roy G. is playing the part of his namesake Wallace Greenslade, the only voice of sanity in their world of insanity.
It’s not like he’s got a very high bar to cross !
Posted by rampisadmukerjee on 2006 11 15 at 03:19 AM • permalinkand from Tim’s introduction ...
That would be the same Robert Fisk who ...You’ve got it !! There are TWO Fisks (any typing error here and it sounds like Joe Louis).
Fisk #1 - urbane, educated, level-headed, fearless reporter of the truth. Unfrightened by jew power.
Fisk #2 - snotty, stupid, biased, crooked spinner of anti-semitic propaganda.
Owned by oil power.Of course, Fisk #1 lives in a parallel universe, occupied by fellow-travelling Guardian/BBC/SBS reporters of the same ilk. We only know of Fisk #2 in this world.
Posted by rampisadmukerjee on 2006 11 15 at 03:26 AM • permalinkO/T
A twist on Fairfax’s Men of No Appearance - Israeli victims with no names. Reuters, BBC and CNN not reporting the name of the casualty from the latest Palestinian Qassam barrage (a 57-year old woman named Fatima Slutsker).
Prediction made here that ABC will follow suit.
Posted by neoZionoid on 2006 11 15 at 06:46 AM • permalinkAntony La-La-JewStein our proud Jewish Plagairiser in Chief has decided to Pilger himself and copy Bobbie Fisk’s shtick for New Matilda Under his own byline of course.
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Sloppy copy editing - they struck out the “anti-” preceding Israeli.