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GRUDGE REPORT

“Howdy, Tim,” writes commenter Dave S. “I saw this article in my local fishwrap yesterday. Apparently global warming is uglifying the formerly awesome prettiness of Vermont fall foliage: ‘Forested hillsides usually riotous with reds, oranges and yellows have shown their colors only grudgingly in recent years ...’

“It doesn’t say how they know this - arboreal spectral analysis? - but I’ve attached a quick snapshot from my back porch in Maine, 150 miles east of the global warming ravaged hellhole of Vermont. Note the riotous-yet-grudging reds, oranges and yellows of the neighborhood trees ...

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“Cheers, Dave.”

Posted by Tim B. on 10/22/2007 at 12:08 PM
  1. Until the Goran was in use they used to blame to drab fall color on lack of rain.

    Posted by Retread on 2007 10 22 at 12:18 PM • permalink

  2. This would not be a problem if color film had never been invented.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  3. Lovely, Dave S.  We usually have displays like that here in Ohio, too, but not this year because of the drought.  Which is, of course, proof of global warming and we’re all gonna die!!!11!!  Unlike previous exceptionally rainy years which were also proof of global warming and we’re all gonna die!!!11!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 10 22 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  4. Oh!
    Dave S.
    Dave S.

    They know all of this because some ditzy 62 year old from Conn said so. There is still time to save Vermont tho’ because she said this was the first year she had recognized this.  Delayed reaction climate change.

    In other distressful news!
    There is a rumor that Bono will soon be doing “A Concert for Malibu Colony”.  Watch for it.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 10 22 at 12:24 PM • permalink

  5. On a serious note.....it’s possible that part of the problem is due to increased vision problems as one gets older. 

    No, I’m not a doctor, but this particular whine does fit how people these days go out of their way to avoid responsibility of any sort.  This particular article is one short step away from blaming Bush for the bushes.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  6. #5

    “Stay out of the bushes.”
    “Stay out of the bushes.”

    Jesse Jackson “sermon” in Black churches during the 2000 election.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 10 22 at 12:35 PM • permalink

  7. Gorgeous, Dave. Obviously you’re fortunate enough to live in a pocket of cooling.

    Posted by paco on 2007 10 22 at 12:38 PM • permalink

  8. Vermont trees hold a grudge? Pretty damned surly of them.

    Posted by Gary from Jersey on 2007 10 22 at 01:16 PM • permalink

  9. When I lived in the South, we had a grudge, but now all’s we got is a carport.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 10 22 at 01:21 PM • permalink

  10. They know all of this because some ditzy 62 year old from Conn said so. There is still time to save Vermont tho’ because she said this was the first year she had recognized this.

    It was also probably a year when she wasn’t lucky in timing her trip. Savvy leaf-peepers know that the difference between “riotous reds, oranges and yellows” and bare trees is often three days and a stiff wind.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 01:29 PM • permalink

  11. Stiff winds are supposedly another by product of global warming, Dave, so I’m afraid we’ll still have to deal with the envirotards on this one.  Unless you can persuade Gorezilla to shut his yap, and stop those winds.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 01:35 PM • permalink

  12. From the article:

    ...temperatures in Burlington have run above the 30-year averages in every September and October for the past four years, save for October 2004...

    Which is another way of saying “two years in a row”, or “two of the last three” or “three of the last five years”, or “We’re all doomed!”

    Spin never sleeps in the MSM.

    Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 10 22 at 02:14 PM • permalink

  13. The mountains were so pretty yesterday I almost ran off the road. Really.

    Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 10 22 at 02:16 PM • permalink

  14. The real problem is that the peak didn’t fall on a weekend. I live in Vermont, and my yard was just beautiful three days ago. Now my lawn is a mess. I blame global warming.

    It is due to lack of rain. Caused by global warming of course. One reason for a lack or rain? No hurricanes of course, err, wait…

    Posted by moptop on 2007 10 22 at 02:18 PM • permalink

  15. I suppose you guys will discount this proof just the way you sneered at Robert Fisk’s fond rememebrence of those winter blizzards he used to dog sled through to school.

    And the bears!  Don’t forget the poultry bears!

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 10 22 at 02:21 PM • permalink

  16. You’re right, Steve! When I was a boy I used to marvel at the rich palette of fall colors while shoveling eight feet of snow off of my steps. Now fall and winter are just a monochromatic ordeal of 62-degree temperatures and vicious cyclones.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 02:45 PM • permalink

  17. Retread

    Until the Goran was in use they used to blame to drab fall color on lack of rain.

    Bingo! Great Smoky Mountain Report...not as vibrant. Reason, lack of rain. Way below average.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 10 22 at 02:49 PM • permalink

  18. Lovely place you’ve got there, Dave.

    Maybe Vermont plants are suffering some kind of botanical hangover from binging on all that surplus CO2.

    Praise Carbon!

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 10 22 at 03:06 PM • permalink

  19. "Some trees are just starting to change now,” Cowger said Thursday. “It used to be, religiously, it was the second week of October when they were at their peak. I would tell my guests to come the second week if you want to see the peak colors. But it’s definitely the third or fourth week at this point.”

    This observation didn’t strike me as supporting the warming theory, either.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 10 22 at 03:11 PM • permalink

  20. Well, Dminor, Congress saw fit to extend Daylight Savings Time several weeks, “to save energy”.  Maybe the plants got confused by the change in the time change. 

    Anywho, Bush signed the bill.  So.....

    I blame Bush!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 03:21 PM • permalink

  21. You see that the lyrics to Camelot have been updated over at Climate Audit

    It’s true! It’s true! Al Gore has made it clear.
    The world is warming more and more each year.

    We started burning too much fossil fuel here.
    July and August now are much too hot.
    For soon there will be no more snow here
    In Warmalot.

    The winters now arrive way past December;
    It says so on the data plot.
    Torrid summers linger through September
    In Warmalot.

    Warmalot! Warmalot!
    Although it sounds a bit bizarre,
    But in Warmalot, Warmalot
    That’s how conditions are.

    climate audit comments

    Posted by moptop on 2007 10 22 at 03:33 PM • permalink

  22. Well, shucks, here in “Merlin” the colours are as vibrant as ever.  Which surprised me since we are in a drought.

    Posted by missred on 2007 10 22 at 03:51 PM • permalink

  23. #19 You idiot, Dminor. How did you miss copying & pasting the guy’s comment that he didn’t think the colours were off? Nor did you properly explain how you think a comment from a B&B manager shouldn’t be cited as evidence of warming theory in a newspaper, anyway.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 10 22 at 03:53 PM • permalink

  24. #22 Missred, apparently our Jacarandas are budding early because of the drought.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 10 22 at 03:56 PM • permalink

  25. #24 my annuals are also still blooming vibrantly and i never water them!
    maybe i am looking at the world through kaleidescope eyes.  ;)

    Posted by missred on 2007 10 22 at 04:31 PM • permalink

  26. Increased CO2 is obviously responsible for that shitty blue colour in the sky.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 22 at 04:49 PM • permalink

  27. #26 LOL, Skeeter!

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 10 22 at 04:52 PM • permalink

  28. How can you Vermontians breathe that thin, lifeless air?
    If you would prefer something with a bit of body in it, Beijing might be worth a visit.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 22 at 05:07 PM • permalink

  29. An obvious photoshop job.

    Dave S. is just trying to gloss over the undeniable truth of Reverend Al’s preachin’.

    Posted by rinardman on 2007 10 22 at 05:16 PM • permalink

  30. I’m at work now and just showed this post to my buddy. He said, “What are they talking about? I can’t remember the colors ever popping out like they are now. It’s gorgeous out there.”

    I took my motorcycle to work today via some country backroads. It was like driving through a fucking postcard.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 05:44 PM • permalink

  31. BTW, are there some big doin’s at Kennebunkport this week? I’m directly under the flightpath to the Bush compound, and four loud, big-ass helicopters (bigger than Blackhawks) flew over this morning.

    Maybe they were leaf-peeping.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 05:48 PM • permalink

  32. They look like trifods.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 10 22 at 05:54 PM • permalink

  33. #32 - that’s why I never go out back without a Super Soaker full of salt water.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 06:01 PM • permalink

  34. #33, No, no, Dave S., it’s triffids that require salt water.  Trifods are the smaller species that you can kill with Gatorade.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 10 22 at 06:21 PM • permalink

  35. That looks like Smooth Sumac (Ohio, taken yesterday morning) to me.  That turns red, global warming or no global warming.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 10 22 at 06:36 PM • permalink

  36. Stiff winds will be useful to drive the wimbles and generate electrickery.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 06:45 PM • permalink

  37. Trifods are the three-lobed free-falling exploding triffids?

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  38. ...four loud, big-ass helicopters (bigger than Blackhawks)...

    Sounds like Chinooks (CH47) or Sea Knights (CH46), assuming they had two full rotors.  If they had only one set or rotors, then you saw the Super Stallion (CH53E.  Pretty cool, either way!

    And whomever was in those birds probably had a really great tour of the state!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 07:29 PM • permalink

  39. Yep, it was those Super Stallions. Thanks, Jeff!

    When Putin was up there this past summer, they had 24-hour fighter cover - there literally wasn’t a second that we did not hear the distant roar of jets. Sadly, they were too far off, and probably too low-flying, for us to see them.

    We get some interesting traffic. I’ve got my wife trained to discern out-of-the-ordinary engine noises, so we simultaneously bolt for the backyard when we hear something out of the ordinary. This summer we saw a P-51, and a couple of summers past, a B-17 and B-24 flying together.

    Probably the coolest, though, was something I didn’t hear, but saw while mowing my lawn - a set of dual multiple contrails WAY high up in the sky. Fetched my binoculars and damn if it wasn’t a KC-135 refueling a C-5 (or whatever those gigantic transports are called.) Pretty impressive to see a big-ass plane flying just a stone’s throw ahead of a HUGE-ass plane.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  40. I really miss the fall colours since I returned to Australia.

    Though there are compensations.  In Sydney right now the jacarandas and Illawarra flame trees are both out.  The flame trees bloom only every second year, so having the fluorescent purple of the jacaranda and the brilliant red glow of the flame trees out at the same time makes for spectacular sight.

    Don’t know how to link to the photos I’ve taken but here’s a link to one site that shows what I mean. Trees

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 22 at 07:47 PM • permalink

  41. Dave S.

    If the fuelee was bigger than the fueler than it probably was the C5.  I had the distinct pleasure of riding on one of those during the Panamanian invasion (shhh, don’t tell the lefties that we actually LEFT that country) A frickin’ MONSTER of an aircarft.  I was told it could hold 4 battle loaded M1A1 tanks. (each goes about 74 tons)

    By the way, the colors are doing fine here in Michigan (took that at my brother-in-laws’) Makes for some beautiful scenery while deer hunting!!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  42. #40 ann j

    I set up a little account on photobucket just for linking to my pictures for this site, works pretty slick and takes no time at all.  In fact, the fall picture I just linked to took me about 30 seconds to load and link.

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 07:59 PM • permalink

  43. oops, bad link there ann j.

    My Queensland lace bark has dropped all it’s leaves and the flowers will be out soon. The flame tree (same species, brachychiton) won’t be flowering this year I think, but the kurrajong (another brachychiton) is flowering now.

    Illawarra flame tree.
    Kurrajong (white flower)Queensland lace bark.

    disclaimer: I have a bit of a thing for brachychitons.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  44. How did I get caught up in all the aircraft talk? Bad, bad timing on my part.  Sorry guys.

    Previous link didn’t work I’m told.  Trying again.  Trees

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 22 at 08:02 PM • permalink

  45. ann j

    Do you miss this since returning to Australia!!! (I suppose it depends upon where you returned too!!)

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  46. #44 ann j

    WOW, now THAT is just stunning!!!!!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 08:07 PM • permalink

  47. #42, Thanks Old Tanker!

    Great photo of the colours in Michigan!

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 22 at 08:10 PM • permalink

  48. 47

    I’m in the southern part of the state, our colors should peak by the weekend!!  If there is a suitable thread I’ll make sure to post another photo.

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  49. All the good stuff seems to happen to Dave S, dammit.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 22 at 08:22 PM • permalink

  50. #45, Old Tanker:  Liked the snow, except when I had to drive or go to work in it.

    It was wonderful waking up to peaceful, white world, in which all sound was muffled.

    But the ice I really didn’t like.

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 22 at 08:27 PM • permalink

  51. A very similar piece of crap here. We’ve had the same stories here in the great White North-a-little-bit-more-than-Vermont.

    A sampler:

    ...the average snow cover season has decreased by more than 15 days compared with 30 years ago...
    well, how does it compare with 300 years ago? Or 1000 years ago? Heck, why not 70 years ago.

    Another:

    Much of this warming is caused by emissions, primarily carbon dioxide (CO2), that blanket the earth and trap heat. The main source of excess CO2 is the burning of coal, oil, and natural gas to generate electricity and drive our cars.

    Well, lies, lies lies. One good volcanic eruption dwarfs all the man-made stuff.

    It’s the ignorant suburban socialistas living the life of Reilly devocred from teh “natural” world who fret so much about cuddly polar bears.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 22 at 08:40 PM • permalink

  52. I notice a few holdouts in there Dave.  Now if you were to buy some carbon credits they might be convinced to change colour....

    Posted by bondo on 2007 10 22 at 08:41 PM • permalink

  53. #40 Annj, the life-forms in Australia ar just plain weird. Mostly poisonous, or at least sticky.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 22 at 08:45 PM • permalink

  54. A shut-up question to a warmenizer:

    “Clearly you think the planet is too hot. How cold should it be?”

    They shut up.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 10 22 at 08:50 PM • permalink

  55. #53, You talkin’ ‘bout me, Wimp?

    Posted by ann j on 2007 10 22 at 08:57 PM • permalink

  56. well, how does it compare with 300 years ago? Or 1000 years ago? Heck, why not 70 years ago

    Because 70 years ago we were in the middle of a warm period just like today. Newsweek magazine thought it so wonderful that they told us in 1975 - when we were in the middle of an unpleasant cool period - how our industrialized world was making things horribly, irreversibly cool compared to those halcyon warm days.

    Rule #1 of stupid apocalyptic doomscreaming - compare conditions today unfavorably to a period in which those conditions weren’t present.

    Rule #2 - when the situation reverses itself, do the same, and pretend you never believed your first, opposite doomscream.

    In both cases, speak with absolute certainty.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 09:01 PM • permalink

  57. 51 Wimpy,

    Didn’t the ice roads from Yellow Knife set a record last year for days open??

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 09:14 PM • permalink

  58. #50 ann j

    I like the ice just fine as long as I get to skate on it and don’t have to drive on it!!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 09:15 PM • permalink

  59. #50 ann j

    let’s try this again .....skate.... hope that works, just more of the photobucket fun!!!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 10 22 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  60. Re #39, Dave, you live in a REALLY interesting place! Pretty scenary, politicians, and all those aircraft.  If my father were still alive (a WWII fighter pilot), he’d probably pester you for a nearby spot just to see what came by next.

    We get the occasional Chinook flying over, sometimes an Apache, usually on marijuana farm patrol.  The Navy used to fly A6s around here, low level stuff (even buzzing the dams!), but now that those are decommissioned, we either get the occasional C130 practicing touch & gos, private planes, or the local commuter flights.  It just ain’t the same thing as having an F16 fly low enough for you to do a panel check.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  61. In the Chicago area, the colors so far haven’t been as good as the past few years. That’s probably due to the real warm autumn. There’s been a continual decline from the peak of 80F on Sunday to just under 50F (normal) right now.

    Posted by JimC on 2007 10 22 at 09:42 PM • permalink

  62. Forgot to add:

    But dull colors do happen here every so often.

    Posted by JimC on 2007 10 22 at 09:43 PM • permalink

  63. We get the occasional Chinook flying over, sometimes an Apache

    An Apache! Sweet!

    The wife and I were driving along a country lane in New Hampshire once when a couple of A-10s screamed across fast and treetop-level.  Scared the crap out of us.

    And we were on the New York State Thruway when some of the Boys from Syracuse were doing fancy maneuvers in their F-16s.

    No Apaches yet, dammit.

    Watch the skies, people! Keep watching the skies!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  64. (I’m waiting for our Aussie friends to start bragging about their F-111 fuel dumps. Buncha show-offs.)

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 10:16 PM • permalink

  65. #64
    We’d never boast!
    Never! (wow!)
    nullEver.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 10:22 PM • permalink

  66. Nope, we’d never boast about the F111 dump and burn.

    But they give me goosebumps!

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 10:25 PM • permalink

  67. Ah, the venerable Warthog!  I love the sound of them passing nearby.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 10:59 PM • permalink

  68. Dave S # TRJ

    Just an update to the eat your heart out file.

    We live between Tucson Airport which houses an active F-16 wing and Davis-Monthan AFB.  We get everything in the air here if it has a C, F, or blade attached to it.  Even A-10 Intruders.

    We also have the Blue Angels come in here very April or so.  They fly over our house in formation for four days in a row-at less than a thousand feet.  Let me tell you that is great stuff!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 10 22 at 11:00 PM • permalink

  69. Bastard!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 10 22 at 11:40 PM • permalink

  70. <grumble grumble grumble grumble.....>

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 22 at 11:43 PM • permalink

  71. Speaking of planes etc. someone just emailed this to me:

    Subject: Ground Proximity Warning System, “Bush Pilot” modification.

    GPWS, MODE 8
    Too low....giraffe....Too low....giraffe...”

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 22 at 11:49 PM • permalink

  72. 69,70

    Well, we have to have something since Arizona doesn’t have a professional hockey or football team.:):)

    I don’t know how we got so lucky but those Blue Angel fly overs are unbelievable.  Right over our house, and I do mean right over!  And most years they form up and start their smoke runs just a few blocks over from us.  We see the whole show right from our backyard. We were devastated at the news of death of one of their crew.  We felt like we new him.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 10 23 at 12:38 AM • permalink

  73. #66 kae, just for you: F111 and Roulettes.
    These pics were taken from an old airforce buddy’s apartment balcony during last weekend’s Indy car races. He’s not much interested in the cars but enjoys watching the RAAF boys at play.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 23 at 04:41 AM • permalink

  74. What a fantastic shot of the F111 - I have been close to one doing a “touch and go” at Amberley, it’s AMAZING!
    I’m not a petrol head, but I love F111.
    Which jet is replacing it?
    I need to get to know it so that I can decide if I like it, or if I just have to keep the flame for the triple-I.

    I’m with your friend, bugger the cars, show me the planes!

    I went to Schofields Air Show in the 80s and have been hooked ever since.
    I’ve been to one airshow at Avalon, too.

    I don’t know all about them, I just know I love them!

    Roulettes? Schmoulettes, if it hasn’t got the grunt of the pig, and gut-vibrating power, I’m not interested! Sorry, they’re not the same. (But I do appreciate what they do and I’d be getting a sunburnt under-chin watching them all day at an airshow!)

    *sigh*

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 23 at 05:00 AM • permalink

  75. Um, Skeets, did I say thanks?

    I’m suffering from AMAB at the moment.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 23 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  76. #75 My pleasure, kae.
    I’m tempted to ask WTF is AMAB, but JfM is hovering around and I don’t want to get in his bad books.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 23 at 08:18 AM • permalink

  77. All Men Are Bastards

    I don’t think JfM will mind.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 23 at 08:28 AM • permalink

  78. #77 kae; seems like it’s a dead thread anyway so we are probable safe from the topic police.
    All this lust for kerosene-powered grunt worries me a little. You are starting to sound like a wannabe knuck*.
    The AMAB symptoms might be merely envy of the good times we blokes have.
    Remember there are girl knucks these days, so the pleasures are now available to all. (Well, all the yoofs, anyway. We mature folk might have to buy a ride rather than be paid to fly).

    *knuck, knucklehead: Originally (1950s) a pejorative term developed by heavy-pilots for the boys in their jet fighters. We now wear the badge with honour and pride.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 23 at 09:02 PM • permalink

  79. #74 kae: “Which jet is replacing it?”.
    I’m a bit out of touch on that topic but will contact some friends who are still in the business and let you know.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 23 at 09:07 PM • permalink

  80. I might email you off the blog if that’s OK.
    It is a bit tedious to chat on here and, of course, everyone who is anyone reads this blog and, well, I don’t want to bore anyone else reading the blog to death!!

    If you could find out what’s replacing the F111 that’d be interesting.
    I can’t pick them when they fly over my place at night, I don’t know if it’s F111s or F whatevers (are they F16s? F18s?). Took me years to figure out the diff between Hercs and ‘Bous.

    Posted by kae on 2007 10 23 at 09:21 PM • permalink

  81. Good idea. Look forward to hearing from you.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 10 23 at 09:30 PM • permalink

  82. Actually, Yojimbo, it was:

    “Stay out de bushes!”
    “Stay out de bushes!”

    I remember he wanted to get everybody in the arena chanting along with him but you could actually hear the hesitation because people didn’t want to say “Stay out de bushes!”. It was very funny.

    #1--Until the Goran was in use they used to blame to drab fall color on lack of rain.

    Exactly. I have no problem accepting that warming might affect fall color. If that turns out to be the case, when they make a list of global warming winners and losers, Vermont could end up on the losers list (after all, leaf-peeping is one of it’s biggest industries). But then maybe Maine, with it’s slightly cooler weather, would become the new leaf-peeping capital, a winner. That’s how life goes.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 10 23 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  83. Here’s Smooth Sumac with fall rooster just now.  Roosters try to blend in with their surroundings.  Also note the green ball in fall color (metric: colour).

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 10 24 at 12:54 PM • permalink

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