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GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE IDENTIFIED

It’s UK motoring journalist Jeremy Clarkson:

Jeremy Clarkson is to blame for global warming and the possible destruction of life on earth, according to Ken Livingstone, the London mayor. Livingstone said areas of London threatened by flooding from melting polar ice were to be called Clarkson zones on a new London development plan “so people know who to blame when they’re flooded out of their home”.

Clarkson responded: “Hold on a minute: are we going to have not enough water in the southeast or too much? I wish these eco-nutters would make their minds up.”

Canada’s Klaus Rohrich disagrees with Livingstone’s Clarkson theory:

I do not believe that climate change is due to an increase in so-called “greenhouse gasses”. And while the neutered scientists working for the UN are warning us of impending doom if we do not change our lifestyles, there are scientists who challenge their findings. Problem is, because these challenges run counter to the accepted politically correct orthodoxy of climate change, many rebuttals don’t often see the light of day and many scientists whose findings challenge those of the conventional climate wisdom are frozen out of research funding.

Climate catastrophics appears to have become a new religion, replacing Marxism and Christianity as the arbiter of acceptable belief. Anyone who questions the accepted climate-change theories currently in favor is considered a heretic.

Posted by Tim B. on 03/12/2006 at 11:37 AM
  1. We’re supposed to be impressed that Ken Livingstone owns a Prius? And that he goes the extra mile, so to speak, by not having a driver’s license and not even being able to drive? I suppose, like the good Red he is, Livingstone is hauled to work every morning on a sled pulled by kulaks.

    Posted by paco on 2006 03 12 at 11:56 AM • permalink

  2. Why does the UK, mother of the Anglospheric civilization, produce so many doomwailing nutballs?

    Climate catastrophians are in it for the grant money, I figure.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 03 12 at 12:09 PM • permalink

  3. ~2. That cannot be the case if you read this dissenting letter from today’s Sunday Telegraph

    Carbon dioxide is not the culprit

    You make a common error in saying that CO2 “is the main cause of global warming” (News Review, March 5). It is an extremely small share of greenhouse gases and the anthropogenic (ie man-made) content is minuscule. If we take just the anthropogenic gases the percentages are: CO2 (carbon dioxide) 0.117 per cent, NHO2 (nitrous oxide) 0.047 per cent, CH4 (methane) 0.066 per cent, and CFCs and other gases 0.047 per cent. Aviation supplies part of the anthropogenic CO2 but only about 10 per cent

    The most prevalent by far of all the greenhouse gases is water vapour, representing more than 95 per cent, and it is 99.9 per cent non-anthropogenic.

    There are large vested interests in climate change that are endeavouring to force us to spend billions on CO2 reduction when the poorest nations of the world remain ill-served. People are being led to believe that all greenhouse gases are man-made and that CO2 is the major share of them. It is totally untrue.

    Anthony Brookes, Charlwood, Surrey

    Posted by Voyager on 2006 03 12 at 12:13 PM • permalink

  4. Good to see Clarkson is still as funny as he was on Grumpy Old Men.

    Climate Change as the new Apocalyptic religion? At least with climate change we’ve got a somewhat better chance of Revelation-esque global destruction, unlike Christianity, which has been promising such for centuries, and has continually failed to deliver on the big action.

    Can you believe in climate change without believing in global warming? Aren’t they too different things?

    I always went with the theory that we were still coming out the back end of the last Ice Age, very slooowwwwly.

    Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 12 at 12:18 PM • permalink

  5. Can you believe in climate change without believing in global warming? Aren’t they too different things?

    The rule is: Only if global warming doesn’t advance the “progressive” point you’re trying to make.  In that case, you are free to lament “global cooling” or “climate change.”  The trick is to segue from one to the other with no break in the momentum of your argument, and continue at exactly the same pitch of fevered outrage, so nobody notices the switch.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 12 at 12:27 PM • permalink

  6. Is it ecologically friendy to burn an eco-heretic at the stake?

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 03 12 at 12:28 PM • permalink

  7. Livingstone said areas of London threatened by flooding from melting polar ice were to be called Clarkson zones on a new London development plan “so people know who to blame when they’re flooded out of their home”.

    Next time sone jihadist nutbar inspired by Red Ken’s pal Sheikh Qaradawi sets off a terrorist bomb in London, I say the devastated area should be called a “Livingstone zone”.

    Posted by Damian P. on 2006 03 12 at 01:05 PM • permalink

  8. many scientists whose findings challenge those of the conventional climate wisdom are frozen out of research funding.

    Frozen out, huh? Well, the global warming the non-frozen scientists say is coming will thaw out the frozen funding, and allow the frozen scientists to thaw out, and end global warming!

    Which will then freeze up their funding, and…. the cycle will start all over again.

    Posted by rinardman on 2006 03 12 at 01:11 PM • permalink

  9. because these challenges run counter to the accepted politically correct orthodoxy of climate change

    It’s not orthodoxy, it’s “consensus”.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 12 at 01:13 PM • permalink

  10. Why does the UK, mother of the Anglospheric civilization, produce so many doomwailing nutballs?

    Because America and Australia emptied out the gene pool.

    I’m a climate change heretic and I say that sitting here—in California—on Mar 12 with 2” freshly fallen snow.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 03 12 at 01:16 PM • permalink

  11. You’d think the mayor of one of the most important cities in the world would be above petty nonsense like this, but I guess that’s too much to ask. The eco-movement continues to descend into insanity and self-parody.

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 01:23 PM • permalink

  12. Warm and overcast here.  Trees and shrubs continue to bud.  Doom is upon us all.

    Posted by ushie on 2006 03 12 at 01:45 PM • permalink

  13. If we all have to move to a warmer Siberia and the Northwest Territories in Canada, doesn’t it make sense to hold on to our V8’s?  We’ll need them when we have to drive hundreds of miles for a latte across the flat and fertile plains.

    Posted by Pat Patterson on 2006 03 12 at 02:20 PM • permalink

  14. PW — There’s not much Red Ken “poisoning pigeons in the park” Livingstone is above.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 12 at 02:32 PM • permalink

  15. Climate catastrophics appears to have become a new religion, replacing Marxism and Christianity as the arbiter of acceptable belief.
    OOOPS! The daggers are out. There’s one Islamophobe who just insulted Muslims everywhere by not recognizing the ROP as
    the true arbiter of acceptable belief.

    Posted by stats on 2006 03 12 at 02:45 PM • permalink

  16. What if the cause of global warming is
    the globe itself?

    What then Ken?

    Posted by swells on 2006 03 12 at 03:03 PM • permalink

  17. GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE IDENTIFIED

    If such a thing does exist, the CAUSE would seem to be, Red Ken opening his mouth and Cherie Booth-Blair jetting all over hell making big buck speeches. Not good for the old “carbon footprint”, you know.

    HMMM (3) [Andrew Stuttaford]

    Via The Independent : “Downing Street declined to comment last night on reports that Cherie Booth is to earn almost £30,000 for an afternoon on the US lecture circuit this week. The wife of the Prime Minister will address The Society of the Four Arts in Palm Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, according to The Sunday Times. The event, entitled “An afternoon with Cherie Booth”, will earn her £29,000, sources close to the club are reported to have told the newspaper. Tony Blair was forced to start registering his wife’s lecture circuit earnings amid criticism that she was trading on his position as Britain’s PM on lecture tours and to sell copies of her book, The Goldfish Bowl. One charity that held a gala event in Ms Booth’s honour during a £100,000 lecture tour of Australia last year has admitted it did not give enough of the money raised to good causes. Ms Booth’s latest lucrative booking comes as the couple’s mortgage arrangements come under fresh scrutiny. The Prime Minister and his wife are estimated to have home loans totalling £4m, leaving them with repayments of £16,000 a month.”

    Ah yes, that would be Cherie Booth, woman of the left, the socialist, you know how it goes.
    The Corner/NRO

    I do hope Tony, is getting ‘some’ on the side, cause he seems so nice compared to the Bitch from Hell.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 03 12 at 03:04 PM • permalink

  18. Talk about weird…......in Eschweiler near Aachen in Germany today, man takes woman and 2-day old baby hostage in maternity ward. Hospital evacuated because man has canister of petrol (and it now turns out a gun + 50 rounds). The woman is his 34 year old ex-girlfriend.


    The media did not say anything about ethnicity or name - but this does not seem a very German thing to do…...........so it sounds like…. Muslim

    Police arrest 32-year old Syrian…........

     

     

     

    Mann lieferte sich in Eschweiler Nervenkrieg mit Polizei

    Eschweiler (dpa) - Nach siebenstündigem Nervenkrieg auf einer Entbindungsstation in Eschweiler hat ein 32-jähriger bewaffneter Mann seine Lebensgefährtin und ihr zwei Tage altes Baby freigelassen. Mutter und Kind blieben unverletzt, der Mann wurde festgenommen. Der mutmaßliche Vater war am Morgen in das Patientenzimmer des Krankenhauses in Eschweiler bei Aachen eingedrungen und hatte Mutter und Kind in seine Gewalt gebracht. Der 32-Jährige befindet sich nach Polizeiangaben seit mehreren Monaten in psychiatrischer Behandlung.

    Posted by Voyager on 2006 03 12 at 03:14 PM • permalink

  19. Global warming is undeniably caused by the steam and heat generated from commercial latte makers (eyeing the new kid suspiciously) – or was that the steam and heat generated by latte drinkers?  I forget…
    All I know is that property I own in Arizona is only going to go up in value.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2006 03 12 at 03:17 PM • permalink

  20. Just like many a Hollywood celebrity, Ken travels the world by jet and then climbs into a Toyota Prius for the trip to his modest residence in order to set an example for the environmentally-unenlightened bourgeoisie.

    Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2006 03 12 at 04:08 PM • permalink

  21. #16 swells ,

    What if the cause of global warming is the globe itself?

    After reading your link, it appears the researchers are trying to suggest that the methane gas releases from under the Arctic are triggered by “man-made” C02-based global warming. So it’s our fault anyway: any cause of climate change, even perhaps increased solar radiation, can only be human-induced (and especially America’s responsibility for not “signing” the Kyoto protocols).

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 04:21 PM • permalink

  22. From #16 link:
    Scientists do not know how much gas is being released, if the rate of release is increasing or what the impact will be on the atmosphere. “It is a huge gap in our scientific understanding,” says Mr. Dallimore

    Is it just me, or does it seem every one of these Global Dooming™ reports have a statement similiar to the above.

    Doesn’t inspire a lot on confidence in their pronouncements.

    Posted by rinardman on 2006 03 12 at 04:25 PM • permalink

  23. This is rich:

    “If you live on the sea ice like the polar bear, you are in big trouble—your habitat is disappearing,” says biologist John Smol of Queen’s University, who is documenting the transformation underway in freshwater lakes in Nunavut.

    Are bears so stupid they can’t look for seals elsewhere? Wouldn’t they, in fact, be easier for the bears to catch if there was less ice for them to hide under? WTF?

    He, like many Arctic researchers, stresses the need for the public and politicians to wake up to the profound nature of the change.

    “People have still not caught on to how serious it is,” says Mr. Smol, the current holder of the country’s top science prize: the Herzberg gold medal. “I believe climactic warming is by far the most serious issue we should be thinking about, over terrorism and over all the other things that make headlines.”

    Guess what Mr Smol, once the Muslim terrorists get ahold of nukes, people will care even less whether you think the sky is falling or not.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 04:29 PM • permalink

  24. #16: Love the sub-head in that story: ” ‘Huge gap in our understanding’, scientist warns”. That gap’s called a “hole in the head”, doc.

    Posted by paco on 2006 03 12 at 04:33 PM • permalink

  25. #22 rinardman,

    Is it just me, or does it seem every one of these Global Dooming™ reports have a statement similiar to the above.

    Doesn’t inspire a lot on confidence in their pronouncements.

    Nor do their breathless pleadings that the efficient and relatively clean industrialized West must make hugely disruptive (and hugely expensive) societal changes immediately or the entire planet is doomed. Meanwhile, the grossly inefficient, shamelessly corrupt and horribly polluted “Turd World” need do nothing at all.

    Except, naturally, demand and receive even greater “aid” payments to line the pockets of tin-pot quasi-fascist potentates.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 05:13 PM • permalink

  26. So, why did that eco-monster Livingstone buy a Prius if he can’t drive it? What a waste of resources that, umm, would be much more pretty if they’d been left in the ground.

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 05:28 PM • permalink

  27. BTW, I like how the article linked in #16 carries the note “PUBLICATION: National Post, EDITION: All but Toronto”. I’m sure there’s a perfectly benign reason for it, but it’s delicious to think that Toronto is simply too left for an article that implies there are large holes in our understanding of “climate change”.

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 05:31 PM • permalink

  28. Nah, PW, the Toronto edition probably more explicitly blamed those evil Gaia-raping Yankee Capitalists.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 05:39 PM • permalink

  29. Climate change?

    Climate change?[/i]

    What the hell do these arrogant clowns expect?

    The earth’s climate has changed drastically many times over its 4.5+ billion year history.

    Why exactly should we expect anything to be different now?

    Idiots.

    Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2006 03 12 at 05:44 PM • permalink

  30. out out vile italics spot!

    A hint to spot the religious rather than the scientific is to spot the fact that all change is described as catastrophic!

    Noone ever says “warmer weather will cause less flu deaths” etc..

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 03 12 at 06:14 PM • permalink

  31. Warmer weather is catastrophic for the flu virus and species diversity. Last week some doomsayer was proclaiming that we were losing 50 species a day to extinction. I’m just waiting for a “journalist” to ask such clowns to name say just 3 that bit the dust yesterday.

    Shouldn’t be too hard with such huge numbers to choose from.

    Posted by amortiser on 2006 03 12 at 06:53 PM • permalink

  32. I’ve always wondered

    If getting warmer is bad would getting cooler be better?

    Or are we amazingly enough at the PERFERCT temperature for the earth?

    Posted by CujoQuarrel on 2006 03 12 at 07:04 PM • permalink

  33. CujoQuarrel, I guess we just incredibly lucky from, say, 1960-1990 and the temp was perfect.

    Anyway, when are they going to figure in the waste heat caused by the huge amount of mechanical friction that’s been going in increasingly since the Age of Industrialization?  Given all the waste heat caused by non-combustion mechanical energy loss it should be having some effect.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 03 12 at 07:26 PM • permalink

  34. Hey, leave Clarkson alone. For those of us males pushing 40, his show ‘Top Gear’ is all about what life should be about, ie, having fun, and a decent car.

    Posted by Nic on 2006 03 12 at 08:00 PM • permalink

  35. As far as punishment for being a eco-heretic, you are tied to the stake and the raising water levels will drown you.
    no-one has actually died of drowning yet but a few have starved to death..

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 03 12 at 08:43 PM • permalink

  36. CujoQuarrel, I guess we just incredibly lucky from, say, 1960-1990 and the temp was perfect.

    No—the worry during the 1970s was the coming Ice Age.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 03 12 at 08:54 PM • permalink

  37. Following some links through from Klaus Rohrich we end up with

    After four years of one of the most rigorous peer reviews ever, Canadian Ross McKitrick and another of us (Michaels) published a paper searching for “economic” signals in the temperature record. McKitrick, an economist, was initially piqued by what several climatologists had noted as a curiosity in both the U.N. and satellite records: statistically speaking, the greater the GDP of a nation, the more it warms

    So there it is, it’s all that frictional heat generated by credit card swiping, wallet extracting, cheque signing etc

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 03 12 at 09:07 PM • permalink

  38. #31 amortiser this is so true.
    It’s a showstopper: I want to hear someone name 10 species that became extinct last year, or 10 the year before.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 03 12 at 09:16 PM • permalink

  39. off topic but there is a great article by Paul Sheehan today in the SMH

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 03 12 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  40. If Kenny believes sections of London will soon be under water, as a public spirited Mayor who is well known for his humanitarian efforts on behalf of the under-class, he should stop his belly-aching rhetoric and demonstrate his leadership by teaching his constituents how to live under-water.

    Posted by stats on 2006 03 12 at 09:36 PM • permalink

  41. Better safe than sorry. Our current lifestyles are unsustainable anyway.

    Posted by bongoman on 2006 03 12 at 09:43 PM • permalink

  42. Global climate change is a good thing….if you want to move to the Arctic Circle.

    Some non-greenie estimates suggest that the once fabled NorthWest passage will be open again (as in ice sheet free) within ten to thirty years, maybe sooner.

    That means shorter trips for most of the world’s freight ships, so less coal and oil burning to get the goods where they need to be.

    Also, the now barely inhabitable Arctic coastlines of Greenland, Russia, Canada, and Alaska, will also be turning green and warm. Thousands of miles of new coastline ready for mass human habitation within decades.

    Beat the rush, buy your frozen block of New Russia now while it’s cheap!

    Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 12 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  43. I hope that climate change and eco doom are man made and I hope that I’m contributing more than my fair share. Then my god complex will be complete. Bwahahahaaaa!

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 03 12 at 10:03 PM • permalink

  44. No—the worry during the 1970s was the coming Ice Age.

    Sure, but the implied argument was probably the same: just replace “from 1960 to 1990, temperatures were just perfect” with “from 1930 to 1960, temperatures were just perfect”.

    In other words, temperatures were always perfect except in the future. Maybe the eco-nuts aren’t so much religious as they are prematurely senile? You know, geezers’ “everything used to be better in the old days” laments and all that.

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 10:12 PM • permalink

  45. Better safe than sorry. Our current lifestyles are unsustainable anyway.

    Well bongoman, you might as well just kill yourself now, then. Do it for the planet!

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  46. I guess we just incredibly lucky from, say, 1960-1990 and the temp was perfect”.

    Rob, the doomworthyness of the temperature is keyed, like homelessness, to whatever US party is in power.

    Like, you know. when the peaceful (well, except for WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam) defenders of the little guy (well, except for the littlest guys) Dems are in power, whatever the thermometer reads is just as Gaia intended.

    And when the evil, warmongering, selfish, earth destroying Rethugs are in power, its all bad.

    Vanguard’s prediction:  Dem in White House in ‘08 means you won’t hear dick about climate change for 4 to 8 years.  Or you’ll hear about it, but in a good way.

    Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 03 12 at 10:17 PM • permalink

  47. Better safe than sorry. Our current lifestyles are unsustainable anyway.

    Then get off the f**king computer and go live in a cave.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 12 at 10:20 PM • permalink

  48. LLL… you are describing exactly the conditions that were reported during the Medieval Warm Period.  The Vikings were out viking because they were no longer afraid of ice locking them out of their ports in mid-winter.  Greenland (Vinland) was so named because the coastline was… guess what?... green! 

    Were vast regions of Europe flooded out during the Medieval Warm Period?  If so, I haven’t heard anything about it.

    Florida is one of the lowest points on Earth… large portions of it are at or near sea level.  We are being told that we will be under water soon.  Funny thing about the non-flooding during the Medieval Warm Period… Florida hasn’t been under water in more than 10,000 years.

    I suggest that someone’s math is screwed up.

    Posted by mamapajamas on 2006 03 12 at 10:24 PM • permalink

  49. You know, I would craft a whole explanation to bongoman as to why his whole “better safe than sorry” argument re: “climate change” is absurd at best and harmful at worst, but it would be like reasoning with a fundamentalist about the illogic of creationism. I’ve learned my lesson - it’s utterly pointless.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 12 at 10:25 PM • permalink

  50. You do have to appreciate bongoman for the note-perfect example of how eco-crazies will uncritically take things on faith. Lifestyles unsustainable? But of course, no questions about it! Okay - even if so, any chance this could be changed in the future, by measures short of taking the razor to everybody’s consumption habits? Of course not! We must cut back on everything!

    I guess there’s no such thing as technological progress in their world…come to think of it, there probably wouldn’t be, if those luddites actually got to enact their policies. So maybe they’re at least consistent, if still insane.

    Posted by PW on 2006 03 12 at 10:29 PM • permalink

  51. Is bongoman being sarcastic?

    Perhaps we should indeed return to the days of subsistance farming and an average life expectency of 45 years. Yes. For the good of the planet.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 10:31 PM • permalink

  52. I don’t want to be sarcastic but London was flooded before evil GW McFloodHitler was elected US President dictator.

    http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/regions/thames/323150/335688/341764/

    I think London of all places knows how to deal with water levels.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 03 12 at 10:37 PM • permalink

  53. </i> 

    that work?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 12 at 10:38 PM • permalink

  54. #48 mamapajamas,

    Greenland (Vinland) was so named because the coastline was… guess what?... green!

    Greenland was indeed green 1,000 years ago, but it wasn’t Vinland. That was something else: Newfoundland. Supposedly, they named the place “Vinland” due to a profusion of wild grapes growing there. It is far too cold, even now during this “unprecendented period of global warming”, for grapes to grow there now.

    Mind you, the infamous “hockey stick” tree ring graph “proved” the Medieval Warm Period never existed, or was only a very localized phenomenon.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 10:47 PM • permalink

  55. Spiny… you’re right.  My error :).  But the rest of my commentary stands.  I also recall something about Scotland having a burgeoning wine business during the MWP. 

    How the “hockey stick” thing “proved” the MWP never existed puzzles me, since it was noted by both historians and by astronomers, two different disciplines who weren’t even aware they were talking about the same period until fairly recently.  The astronomers noted records of an enormous increase in solar activity… very much like the increase in the last twenty or so years.  I would suggest to them that tree ring data are not as conclusive as believed.

    The MWP is historically noted as a period of bumper crops and general properity.  Funny how people panic over these things.

    Posted by mamapajamas on 2006 03 12 at 10:54 PM • permalink

  56. “properity”=prosperity.  Preview is my friend.  Preview is my friend.  Preview…

    BTW, the astronomers referred to the Medieval Warm Period as the Medieval Maximum, noting a period of intense solar activity. 

    Interestingly enough, we are presently in a period astronmers refer to as the Modern Maximum. 

    Interesting, no? :D

    Posted by mamapajamas on 2006 03 12 at 11:03 PM • permalink

  57. #55 mamapajamas,

    The tree-ring research supposedly indicates that the global climate was more or less rock steady for millenia until the Industrial Revolution (and especially the 1960s), when began our current “fightening and unprecendented” world-wide temperature increase. Supposedly, wider growth rings = higher temperatures, although cooler, but wetter weather should have the same or greater effect. I’ve never seen, in any of the links that have been thrown at me, this possibility even addressed.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 12 at 11:13 PM • permalink

  58. Has Livingstone committed a criminal offence - incitement, intimidation - or a civil defamation? Possibly a criminal libel - ie a libel likely to provoke a breach of the peace?

    Posted by Susan Norton on 2006 03 12 at 11:20 PM • permalink

  59. Hmmmm… now that’s interesting :).  An increase in CO2 would also cause it, I think, but a CO2 increase is not necessarily a bad thing, since I’m talking about what would essentially be airborne plant food. 

    I’m beginning to suspect that the greatest danger we might face with warming would be runamuck kudzu.

    Posted by mamapajamas on 2006 03 12 at 11:21 PM • permalink

  60. Hey, if its going to get warmer, let’s get cracking, because my Wicked Weasel order has arrived.  Snowed here yesterday (Northern Nevada) so all the F-350s running around here seem to be doing no good as far as driving up the temps!

    Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 03 12 at 11:28 PM • permalink

  61. off topic….

    Motoon’s Non-Riot Revenge!

    Found a link to a site linking to Iranian Holocaust Cartoon Competition, or alleged IHCC.

    Looks more like a collection of anti-American /anti-Sharon cartoons from the world over.

    Here’s the link to the main page:

    http://www.planetofstrangethings.blogspot.com

    There are two links on this page, back to the Iranian sites hosting the ‘competition’. But they come up ‘Forbidden’ unless you click like crazy on the link.

    Haven’t seen this linked up anywhere else yet, thought you all might be interested.

    (only came across this when searching for roller coaster sites, of which there’s a freaky new US one, the biggest, tallest in the world further down the main page of the Planet site)

    Damn, my latte’s lost its froth….

    [url=http://www.planetofstrangethings.blogspot.com]Alleged Iranian Holocaust Cartoon Competition/url]

    Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 13 at 12:13 AM • permalink

  62. sorry about that last line there, I thought I was linking correctly, still learning….other link works.

    BTW, did TB have to get police protection after his MoTooning? He seemed to suggest this in his recent Bulletin column.

    Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 13 at 12:16 AM • permalink

  63. Me Ogg. Me Neanderthal Environmentalist. Me do numbers on cave wall with stick. Me show Neanderthal lifestyle not sustainable:

    Neanderthal use rocks for tools.

    Supply of rocks is finite.

    Ogg say we will run out of rocks. Only solutions to stop making so many little Neanderthals who will use more rocks, and start making tools from renewable resources. All tools now we make with deer poo.

    Homo Sapiens Sapiens not do this. They denialists. Not reality-based. Keep using rocks. So future belong to Neanderthal.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 13 at 12:52 AM • permalink

  64. It is worthwhile reading the many studies written before the birth of “The Church of Holy Sequestered Carbon”—such as “Plagues and Peoples” (W.Macneil) or any number of other texts on Medieval life and disease vectors.

    The “exclamation point” to the MWP was the Black Death.

    Fisk me for a fool, but: Climate Change=Pandemic, Climate Change=Pandemic, Climate Change=Pandemic.

    I took my temperature today and it was 98.65…usually it’s 98.6. Coincidence?

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 03 13 at 01:01 AM • permalink

  65. I believe the Black Death was after the MWP, when the rats increasingly sought shelter indoors as the climate cooled. Vague recollection from a Discovery Channel doco I saw recently (which said how staggeringly wonderful things were during the hotter-than-today MWP, and how it all went to hell when the climate cooled.)

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 13 at 01:21 AM • permalink

  66. No doubt about it, we are in a drastic climate change period.  Only 18,000 years ago (and that was only yesterday - 0.0004% of the life of the earth) much of southern Australia was glaciated or at least severely snow-bound.

    Now look at it - a total enviro-wreck!  Talk about retreating glaciers - they are (?were) reteating faster than the French army in WW2.  .... or faster than Tim Flannery on a book-promtional world tour .... or ...

    I hope bongoman makes a re-appearance.  Been a bit tame since Andrea’s last putch.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 03 13 at 01:35 AM • permalink

  67. Clarkson is right. The world is crawling with bloody leftoid idiots. Sorry for the oxymoron.

    May I suggest a bounty on them might solve the problem?

    Or, for amusement value, we could ship ‘em over to Zarkawi’s head-hacking school, so they could talk him around though ‘understanding’ and singing kumbaya a lot.

    Posted by MarkL on 2006 03 13 at 01:36 AM • permalink

  68. Hmmmmm…..methinks we must adjust for the eco-nutters of the work, in sympathy with Mr. Clarkson.  Not to mention tweaking one of our resident idiots, bongoman.

    I didn’t burn much gasoline this weekend, but I think I made up for it by installing a whole bunch of laminate flooring in my house.  I will have the pleasure of walking on wood, not old tiling, thereby supporting my lavish, non-cave dwelling lifestyle.

    Additionally, I have a big pile of scrap laminate in the backyard, awaiting transport to the garbage dump, which will require more gas, in addition to filling up the landfill. 

    On the minus side, I must note that all the cardboard from my remodeling project will go to the recycle center.  However, our local recycling program is a sensible one in that they are merely trying to reduce the load on the landfill (as opposed to Saving The World™), so I like to support it.

    On the plus side, I will be taking some college lads to the range this week for an informal blastathon.  This not only requires even more gas, I will be corrupting these youth by exposing them to obsolete military weapons, and slamming multiple lead projectiles into innocent targets.  Surely this non-PC behavior will counter my foray into green behavior.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 03 13 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  69. In the Newcastle Herald today, a letter writer comments that some British researchers recently revised their global warming predictions from 1.5-2 degrees to 11+ degrees, and implores us to consider the impact this will have on our lives. Why don’t these people ever question researchers who correct their predictions by 1000%? Wild inaccuracies like that continuing to be accepted as fact is worrying indeed.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 03 13 at 03:04 AM • permalink

  70. anagallis

    I also note that no research ever indicates that an environmental problem is less serious than previously thought.  Eventually expected outcomes will become so outlandish that the claims will be testable.

    Posted by rexie on 2006 03 13 at 06:31 AM • permalink

  71. #69 As in the Newcastle Herald, Newcastle, Australia?  The Star is a better read, and it comes free, delivered to your door, whether you like it or not.

    Posted by Brett_McS on 2006 03 13 at 06:32 AM • permalink

  72. Dave S.

    My use of the term “exclamation point to the MWP”—as in an exclamation point coming at the end of a sentence— was perhaps less metaphorically potent than intended.

    The “sentence” was the MWP, the exclamation point was the end(ing) of that period and the diseases that throve thereafter.

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 03 13 at 07:05 AM • permalink

  73. Ah, gotcha. Apologies for the faulty correction.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 13 at 01:08 PM • permalink

  74. LLL 4

    At least with climate change we’ve got a somewhat better chance of Revelation-esque global destruction, unlike Christianity, which has been promising such for centuries, and has continually failed to deliver on the big action.

    That’s where ya’ve really got to hand it to those devout Marxists, most notably the Dear Leader, Kim Jong Il.  Say what you will about them, they’ve really held up their end of the whole imminentizing of the eschaton thang.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 03 13 at 03:41 PM • permalink

  75. Keep on keeping me honest, DaveS, please. This form of discourse is new to me; though I am learning that one can “post in haste, repent at leisure”.

    Oh, and hopefully the chickens and ducks won’t be “plucky” enough to try coming inside the house when the cold snap starts.

    H5N1—sounds like a Canadian postal code.

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 03 13 at 03:48 PM • permalink

  76. This form of discourse is new to me; though I am learning that one can “post in haste, repent at leisure”.

    Been there, done that. Eating crow builds character.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 03 13 at 03:54 PM • permalink

  77. Marination is the key, yes indeed.  My recipe, let the crow marinate in lime juice, overnight.  Then cover with rashers of haram bacon and roast it at 400 degrees for 1 hour or until it starts to smell bad.  Worse, I mean.  Then place the bird in a metal serving dish and gingerly push it across the floor with a stout broom.  If the dog whines and runs away from it, it’s probably just right. 
      A normal-size crow serves one, and tastes only slightly worse than plastic turkey.  For the diet-conscious, leave out the side order of humble pie.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 03 13 at 05:45 PM • permalink

  78. #71

    Yes, I do indeed mean Newcastle, Australia. I’ve never actually read the Star (and suspect few people ever have), but am certain it is much better than the Herald.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 03 13 at 07:43 PM • permalink

  79. #70

    Scientists can’t get a grant if they can’t find a threat.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 03 13 at 07:43 PM • permalink

  80. “Humility is like underwear, essential, but indecent if it shows”

    A virtual wedgie, probably the first of many!!!

    (and thanks for the recipe—gonna send it to some one in Adelaide before this weekend’s final)

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 03 13 at 10:17 PM • permalink

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