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FISH TO SWIM IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE
An intriguing New York Times piece on global warming. From 1932.
(Via WB)
I, for one, look forward to trout fishing in Westminster Abbey.
1st angler: How’s the fishing, today?
2nd angler: Topping, old scout, positively topping! I took two beauties in the Poets’ Corner an hour ago.
1st angler: Congratulations! I was thinking of trying out a spinner over by the bronze effigy of Eleanor of Castile. What do you think? Any browns over there?
2nd angler: No good, old boy; the shot’s simply not on the board. The bloody pike have driven them out. You might try over there by the choir screen.
1st angler: Ho! What the devil is that fellow doing there, under the painting of Richard III?
2nd angler (snorts in disgust): That’s some ghastly tourist, from the American south, I’ve heard. Catches catfish -now, follow me closely on this - catches catfish with his bare hands! I believe it’s called “noodling” in the dialect of the rural districts from which he has ventured forth to harrass and annoy our local fish. All that splashing and “yeehawing!” Damned cheek, I say.Keep in mind that this was from the era when there was a scientific consensus (where have I heard those words before?) that the continents were eternal and unmoving and had always been located exactly where they were. So you’ll notice the article explains, and states as a fact, that the fossils of marine life on top of the Rockies proved that there were great floods that brought them there.
Of course, what they didn’t know, despite their scientific consensus, is that the top of the Rockies hadn’t always been the top of the Rockies. We now know that the continents aren’t stationary, but rather move about, and land that was previously at sea level has been pushed up and formed into mountains, among other effects. So their great flood evidence doesn’t look quite the same in a modern light. But, hey, they had a consensus and that’s all that counts.
Hmmm.
We now know that the continents aren’t stationary, but rather move about
Hah! You’re pulling my leg on that one!
Why I put a yardstick down in the backyard a week ago and it hasn’t shown anything moving around. It’s still there right where I left it!
Now that’s f-ing PROOF I tell you!
Posted by memomachine on 2007 02 06 at 02:01 PM • permalink“So, within 30,000 to 40,000 years there will be another deluge.”
Thus sayeth the NYT in 1932.
The article also states that sea levels were estimated to rise anywhere from 50 to 151 feet. These figures must be an example of a SWAG (“Scientific, Wild Ass Guess”, a very common methodology in the era prior to pre-computer modeling becoming available).
What’s the latest estimate? A 59 or 88 CM sea rise by 2100? Nice to see the scientists have really fine tuned their calculations. The only difference here is that the screeching in 2007 seems to be louder and longer for a much smaller rise in the oceans.
And that article is also an example of “scientific consensus” 70 years ago, thus proving that little is new under the sun.
Poor envirotards; doomed to repeat themselves over and over again. Kinda like the mythical lemmings, now that I think upon it….
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 06 at 02:23 PM • permalinkSpeaking of continental drift, the Professor Wegener mentioned in the article (who had died in Greenland in 1931) was the originator of that theory in the 1920s. No one agreed with him until the 1960s. Wegener was actually a maverick, not a consensus guy.
The article itself seems mostly sensible to me. They had calculated that ice was slowly melting and would raise seas levels over the next 30,000 years if the warming continued. The estimate for complete melting, 50-150 feet, is not bad, but a bit on the low side.
Overall, far more sensible than most modern newspaper descriptions of global warming.
BTW I bring your attention to a brewing Climate Change Industry Bribe Scandal
A US politician stands to gain well over $US1 million by peddling a certain brand of climate change propaganda. Scandalous enough for you, scandal fans? But wait…
The money was earnt in the death and destruction business by a company making its money from explosives.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 06 at 06:49 PM • permalinkRE: #13
Yeah, it’s harder and harder to feel any awe regarding the Nobel Peace Prize any more. It’s become the province of political hacks and those with an agenda rather than an award for making or promoting peace. Everything the ‘60s generation touches seems to go in that direction. They inherit respected august institutions and then run them into the ground by tossing the hard-earned reputations and integrity of those institutions aside in favor of making them cheap political mouthpieces of whatever cause they favor.
As a scuba diver, I look forward to the new, exotic dive sites. Talk about sunken treasure, maybe pick up a crown or two.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 06 at 08:51 PM • permalink#8: So that’s what happened to the Chelleans and Mousterians!
I thought the question of the Mousterians was settled by Captain Scarlet.
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 02 06 at 09:25 PM • permalinkPersonally I blame the microwave. Back in 1932 the denizens of doom were prepared to wait 30-40,000 years for the water to lap at their feet. These days, when gratification must be immediate, we can wait no longer than 3-4 years. This fast paced modern world has a lot to answer for.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 06 at 10:43 PM • permalink“Professor G. S Simpson of the British Meteorological Office has advanced the theory that the Chellean, Mousterian and other races of men that once flourished in Southern Europe were wiped out because the climate changed and that inedible vermin took the place of animals that could be hunted.”
Now that IS a nasty thing to say about the french!
#20
Spot on as usual, IT. In my day, the local nutter would hold a sign in the main strett saying “the end of the world is nigh”. No pressure, no timeline, just a gentle reminder.
Nowadays they’re on every medium available screaming at us, saying the end of the world is now, if not sooner.
Don’t get me started about kids on skateboards bumping into you on pathways, or lids that you can’t get open…
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 06 at 11:04 PM • permalink#22 - Not to mention these brazen hussies that present the evening news. With their tousled hair, husky, alluring voices, their sheer blouses revealing ample, yet firm bosoms. I could go on, but I’m just too distracted to type right now.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 06 at 11:15 PM • permalinkYes everywhere you look in the modern world - degrading filth and pornography - much of it covered in plastic so you can scarcely open it with your arthritic, shaking hands.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 02 06 at 11:47 PM • permalinkI googled Sir Edgeworth David, mentioned in the NYT article, and among his many accomplishments, he discovered a rich coal seam in the Hunter Valley.
So how could he be taken seriously? He was obviously under the influence of the dreaded fossil fuel industry. What’s that? He was predicting polar cap meltdown from global warming back in the 1920s? Oh…hmmm…um, maybe he was wrong?
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I don’t know how many of members of the Church of Global Warming remember something we had in the US called the “Dust Bowl”. That was the basis of the move “The Grapes of Wrath”.