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“You know times are changing,” writes Jamie Glassman, “when you go along to a stand-up show at the Pleasance Courtyard at the Edinburgh Fringe and you hear audience members shouting ‘Throw them in the oven’ when the comic suggests kids should stop playing Cowboys and Indians and replace it with Nazis and Jews.” Glassman—a writer on The Ali G Show—continues:
I’ve seen two comics so far who have been happy to amuse their crowds with Holocaust gags. I’m not sure which to be the more concerned about.
One was a left-leaning angry Australian conspiracy theorist, Steve Hughes, whose show The Storm is an assault on all things Western. “I want to bash Condoleezza Rice’s brain to bits and kill that f****** Jew Richard Perle.” Hughes is the one at the Pleasance Courtyard while Perle is an adviser to George W. Bush as he was to Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton on foreign affairs.
The second was a far more charming African-American comic who for much of the show was thoughtful, funny and even quite sweet. But he seemed to have a problem with Jews, too. Reginald D. Hunter is doing sell-out shows in the new E4-sponsored venue, the Udderbelly. Three hundred come along every night to see Hunter’s Pride and Prejudice and Niggas. You should see the poster.
I was laughing along until he announced that he was about to be extremely controversial and break the last taboo of stand-up comedy. Long silent pause. Jeeeeews ...
Of all the possible targets, of all the things he might wish to say, his complaint is that he is not permitted to parrot the greatest anti-Semitic slur of the last hundred years — that the Holocaust never happened.
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for David Irving! Glassman next returns to Hughes, who presumably feels more at home in Manchester (where he now lives) than Australia:
For me, Hughes represents a growing trend among left-thinking people in this country and around the world to accept as dogma that those on the Left should hate Bush, Blair, American imperialism, Israel and, while we’re at it, the Jews. It is a cultural trend that I’ve found increasingly evident but never before has the Jew-hating element been so overt ...
Hughes wasn’t one for the odd remark or the clever comment; he waxed lyrical on how Osama bin Laden is far less of a threat than Dick Cheney, before defending Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian President, saying he has no intention of destroying Israel, he has just been misquoted.
Hughes (who has apologised) is clearly another practioner—along with Rich Hall and others—in the growing field of Indycomedy. Still in Edinburgh, director of the Edinburgh International Book Festival Catherine Lockerbie hails her talented line-up:
I’m not bragging, but we have three Nobel Prize-winners this year ...
Nobel Prizes, eh? I wouldn’t be bragging either.
director of the Edinburgh International Book Festival Catherine Lockerbie
No pun indended - or does that get me a gig?
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 08 15 at 06:23 AM • permalinkADMIN OT: anyone who leaves a comment consisting of something like “First! Ha ha!” with no other on topic statement, will find that their comment will have become “Zero! Ha ha!” In other words, yes, I deleted a comment just like that just now.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 08 15 at 06:57 AM • permalinkLoewenstein and Tony Jones could make a killing as a double act over there.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 08 15 at 07:04 AM • permalinkSteve Hughes? Who he? Never heard of him so no great problems. What does concern me however is that on an international stage this toe-rag is described as an “..angry Australian ..” and so his attempts at fascist humour reflect badly on all of us.
Does anyone know exactly who this clown is? Google doesn’t bring up much.
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 08 15 at 07:22 AM • permalinkGreat stuff! The bride and I are flying to Edinburgh tomorrow and just can’t wait to hear all this cutting-edge wit.
Have to see if there’s any way at this stage to ixnay the Edinburgh crap and spend a few more days in Inverness…
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 08 15 at 07:24 AM • permalink“Or how about a comedy routine mocking the various Scots defeats at the hand of the British? Bring the house down that. I’m sure the ‘comedians’ are easily up to it.”
I think you mean defeat at the hands of the English. The Scots help comprise the term “British”.
Posted by Mike Jericho on 2006 08 15 at 07:50 AM • permalinkurk! A most egregious error MJ! He’s me being of Scots ancestry & all…
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 08 15 at 07:53 AM • permalinkKind of reminds me of the movie, Cabaret, where the acts in the club become increasingly anti-semitic and finally openly pro-Nazi. I never thought it impossible, but certainly considered it unlikely, that we would see the rise of unadulterated anti-semitism on this scale again, and the whole thing presents a riddle: is BDS a function of anti-semitism, or is anti-semitism a function of BDS? Does the average frothy-mouthed, jew-baiting scoundrel despise Bush so much that he has come to hate our allies as well? Or has the anti-semitism always been there, lying dormant, and is Bush just the excuse for displaying it?
Catherine Lockerbie on witers “If they wanted to perform on a stage, they would be actors. What the Book Festival demands of them is profoundly against their nature. We’re torturing the poor things!”
Charles Dickens loved to read his work on stage and did whole tours to indulge his fancy (for a fee).
Hasn’t anyone figured out that whenever the Jews get persecuted and threatened - shit happens to the rest of the world? Starting from the times of the Black Death, to the time of French Revolutions, then to WW2 etc.. Each time you fcuk with the Jews- some mighty hand of fate comes and takes a smite at you.
Posted by Wylie Wilde on 2006 08 15 at 08:23 AM • permalinkMakes you kind of sympathetic to Edward Longshanks who beat the crap out of the Scots and made them subject to the English up until about now. (Despite Mel Gibson’s faux history in “Braveheart”). But let the Scots beware. Before he turned on the Scots, this anti-semite banned the Jews from all the Isles he controlled. The Jews again were the canaries in the cages, but the Scots, as usual, didn’t pay attention until it was too late.
(From memory: Mark Twain in his essay “On the Jews” relates that upon his visit to Scotland he noted that in crummy, downcast villages everywhere he found the Scots bragging that they had kept the Jews out. That is the reason, Twain conjectures, that they have never turned into prosperous towns but have remained crummy, downcast villages.)Gore and Fisk on the same stage, this is what entertainment in hell would look like.
Posted by Daniel San on 2006 08 15 at 08:38 AM • permalink#1 SCD: Don’t ya’ know, the Lockerbie plane disaster was pulled off by the Scots themselves with the help of Bush in order to get sympathy from the world so that they could get blackmail dough from the innocent Muslies they pinned the rap on. Don’t ya’ know the Muslies could never have done it because, according to their own Sheiks, they don’t have the know how (i.e., they are too dumb to have done it) and, besides, the Koran doesn’t permit it.
Old Mel got torn apart for his stupid, drunken comments; fair enough. Then it was decided to try and destroy his career.
Whereas this lot, sober (the rumours of heard about comedians that could be questionable) deliberately planned to insult and pretty much threatened to kill Jews and others. Media seems a lot quieter on this one but then again they aren’t vocal Catholics.
But was it funny?
For a comedy festival, it really doesn’t strike me as such.
This begs one to ask the question again, where is the Left’s sense of humour?
On the right, we have Mark Steyn and Tim Blair. Needless to say many of the world’s funniest comedians and writers are Jewish. So that’s Jews and the Right well covered.
What about the Left?
Of course there’s always this gem:
Q: How many Islamic terrorists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Why do you presume to think they would want lightbulbs? This is precisely what foments hatred against the West and you should really be ashamed.
Get it?
stats @ #20
#1 SCD: Don’t ya’ know, the Lockerbie plane disaster was pulled off by the Scots themselves with the help of Bush in order to get sympathy from the world ..... <snip>
Old news mate, very old news. I read that on Web Diary ages ago.Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 08 15 at 09:23 AM • permalinkOT
This article in the Jerusalem Post explains that:Hizbullah will not hand over its weapons to the Lebanese government but rather refrain from exhibiting them publicly, according to a new compromise that is reportedly brewing between Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Seniora and Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Surprised? It’s that whole, “out of site, doesn’t exist” thing that people who live in some parallel universe seem to believe. It is an unbounded universe, not subject to any laws of justice that we know of.
Gentlemen! Ladies!
Why do you agonise incessantly about these turkeys? Why do you fret?
The miasmic rantings of litti-clitti neo-fascists will subside to a mere sussuration, but only if you GO TO THE PERFORMANCE, venture to mount the stage, keeping your temper under strict control, eschewing violence, and tell the turds precisely what you think.
Simple, really.If you had told me 10 years ago, even five years ago, that I would be watching the rise of fascism again in my lifetime, and that the American left would be complicit in it, I would have said you were crazy. But I would’ve been wrong.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 08 15 at 10:59 AM • permalinkThere are over 28,000 performances at the Edinburgh Fringe this year. We’re talking about one or two of them. The Fringe is one of several other Festivals on now. The Book Festival has 600 visiting authors.
Are some Moonbats in town? Of course, but neither of the two “comedians” were Scottish and Scots are often a small minority in the audiences. The city is overflowing with visitors. At an event last night that I attended (on the Middle East) most questioners from the floor were Americans, not Scots. Yes, I’m going to hear Gore, and with any luck can challenge the idiot. Tonight, on the other hand, I am attending a Book Festival event to listen to a Conservative MP. There is a huge variety of speakers at what is the world’s largest Book Festival. Sunday’s audience for Francis Fukuyama was clearly more anti-Moonbat than pro.
I am sure that Ms Lockerbie wouldn’t appreciate silly remarks about the event that hit the town from which her name originates. I certainly don’t - I was born ten miles away and we haven’t forgotten.
Posted by David Farrer on 2006 08 15 at 11:33 AM • permalinkThere are over 28,000 performances at the Edinburgh Fringe this year. We’re talking about one or two of them.
Sure. They’re a minority.
But why were they welcome in the first place? Why are they comfortable spewing that hatred in public? Why is anti-Semitism acceptable?
Contrast the reaction with the reaction to merely expressing unease about many of the tenets of Islam, or about the propriety of gay marriage. Clearly there are subjects which are beyond the pale even at a “Fringe Festival”; why isn’t judenhass one of them?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 08 15 at 12:38 PM • permalinkWhy did the Jew cross the road?
Because there was a penny on the other side! As well as a Muslim child he intended to cook for his dinner. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be here all week.
Posted by Jim Treacher on 2006 08 15 at 01:58 PM • permalinkA man’s walking down the street and sees a guy standing on the sidewalk next to a statue of Buddha.
Man says, “Does your God smite?”
Guy says, “Oh, yes, he smites all infidel pigs and unbelieving apes.”
Man pats the Buddha on the head. Nothing happens. “Hey, I thought you said your God smites!”
Guy says, “That’s not my God. Allah Akbar!”
#34, Kyda,
If you had told me 10 years ago, even five years ago, that I would be watching the rise of fascism again in my lifetime, and that the American left would be complicit in it, I would have said you were crazy. But I would’ve been wrong.
A book I read years ago warned about this, titled “The Ominous Parallels”, by Leonard Peikoff. I thought it was interesting at the time. It is now in the “to be read” line; after the events of the last week, I’m going to start on it now.
#26 This article in the Jerusalem Post explains that: Hizbullah will not hand over its weapons to the Lebanese government but rather refrain from exhibiting them publicly, according to a new compromise that is reportedly brewing between Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Seniora and Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Oh, don’t worry about this material breach of the cease fire agreement. Kofi Annan is on top of it. He’ll single handedly make Hezbollah comply with strong words of disappointment.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 15 at 03:21 PM • permalinkThere are over 28,000 performances at the Edinburgh Fringe this year. We’re talking about one or two of them.
The author of the article hasn’t seen all 28,000 performances. How many could one person do in one festival - twenty? Thirty? And he found two openly anti-semitic acts. It’s called random sampling. Extrapolate out and you have over two thousand comedians doing Jew jokes and Holocaust gags.
“Once is a fluke, twice is a trend.”Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 15 at 03:51 PM • permalinkExtrapolate out and you have over two thousand comedians doing Jew jokes and Holocaust gags
True in theory, but it’s just these two that I’ve seen covered by the local media, which does review a vast number of events.Anyway, this isn’t my point. Murph asked:
Hey David, do you reckon I’d get a gig with a standup about how I want to bash the Imam of the Leeds Mosque’s brains to bits and kill that f*cking Muslim Iqbal Sacranie?
Of course you could. There is no centrally organised Edinburgh Fringe. Anyone can turn up and hire a theatre, hall, a room in a pub or whatever and put on a show.
And that’s the answer to Rob Crawford. No one in Edinburgh “welcomed” any of the acts or vetted them in advance. The way to deal with these idiots is to confront them, not to complain that we have freedom of speech in the west. By the way, the speaker I heard tonight was promoting his recent book that attacks fundamentalist Islam. He was very well received
Posted by David Farrer on 2006 08 15 at 05:08 PM • permalinkI’ll confess that my sense of humour is truncated on the lefty side of the political divide.
I’m currently reading Bruce Bawer, and finding less and less to laugh about.
It frustrates me (and angers me) that political correctness, which is nothing of the sort, allows people to slag off Jewish people with no censure, but say something anti-gay or anti-islam, and you are taking your life in your hands.
Politcally correct my arse.
Mind you, the more crap like this is exposed, the more right-minded people are opening up about their thoughts on it all. It’s not promising for the moonbats.
OT anecdote. I stopped to put petrol in the death beast on the way to collect the ruggie yesterday arvo, and bought the dead tree ed of the Hun. The front page had a picture of one of the ‘boys’ on trial here in Melbournistan for terror offences. This fine, upstanding young man was brandishing an AK47 in one of his holiday snaps from Lebanon.
Anyway, back to the anecdote. The bloke at the register made the comment about it being a lovely day and there are much nicer things to be doing than warmongering. I nearly fell over! I repeated the warmongering back at him, and he said that some people would rather be doing that. My response was that well, it’s only a broad strata of society that are into warmongering. He agreed with me, then suggested it would be much nicer to enjoy the sunshine.
From his speech and mannerisms, my gaydar was going berserk, so I reckon he’s one gay who’s a wakeup.
There are a lot more people waking up, but they are too frightened to voice any opinion thanks to the laws here on “hate speech”.
Not for much longer, though, I think.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 08 15 at 05:30 PM • permalinkNo one in Edinburgh “welcomed” any of the acts or vetted them in advance. The way to deal with these idiots is to confront them…
And be accused of “censoring” them, of trying to deny them their right to free speech. Been there, done that.
The open question is why these people are still accepted in society.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 08 15 at 05:43 PM • permalinkNo one in Edinburgh “welcomed” any of the acts
i.e., ‘don’t damn the whole festival just because of a couple of bigots.’
A fair point I guess.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 08 15 at 06:19 PM • permalinkRemember reading an interview with Sarah Silverman, whose type of humour is rather offensive - (to put it in an unoffensive way). She makes jokes like ‘I was raped by my Doctor - which for a Jewish girl is bittersweet’. And more than one joke about the holocaust.
Her philosophy is, ‘If it’s funny, it’s not offensive’. I can kind of see where she’s coming from, though you have to wonder if people can take her brand of humour much further.
Steve Hughes sounds like the type of comedian who mistakes invective for comedy. I like insults as much as the next guy - (‘Ladyboy pantywaists’, anyone?) - but Hughes’ joke just isn’t funny. It’s probably one of the consequences of freedom of speech - there will be some people that abuse that freedom, either out of stupidity, arrogance, or just malice.
Doug Stanhope, an American, devotes much of his show to why he hates people who define themselves by religion or nationality. He said: “You can hate [the Jews] for the same reason you hate the KKK [Ku Klux Klan]. They believe they’re the chosen people.”
I see. Humour about hating by faith or country is fine.
I suppose this is what is called ‘transgressive humour’, or ‘a postmodernist take on political correctness’, which the Left has always said was just common decency and politeness?These guys could have got jobs as Hitler’s Morality Advisers
David Farrer @ # 36:
I am sure that Ms Lockerbie wouldn’t appreciate silly remarks about the event that hit the town from which her name originates. I certainly don’t - I was born ten miles away and we haven’t forgotten.Geez mate, what do you think this thread is about? In part it’s about how certain people in Edinburgh think vile jokes are both OK and funny.
You suggest that Ms Lockerbie may not appreciate my er, humour re the plane crash and you apparently don’t appreciate it either being close to the event. Can’t see the irony there?
What I said was:
I’m waiting for the jokes about the Lockerbie plane disaster. That should go down a treat with the folks in Edinburgh.Maybe it will ease your own concern if I reveal (drum roll) that I was being facetious (unlike those quoted at the top of the thread). I’ll try to make it plainer next time by writing “I’M BEING FACETIOUS”.
Nong.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 08 15 at 06:57 PM • permalinkin britain there’s supposed to be strict anti-hate laws to stop people saying nasty things about foreigners.
these laws are used all the time against the BNP so why aren’t they applied to these comedians??
Posted by stink foot on 2006 08 15 at 07:03 PM • permalinkIt’s so typical that when someone innocently calls for the death of jews that people start calling them names like “anti-semitic”.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 08 15 at 07:31 PM • permalink“Cultural” festivals are held all over the world and they attract the “arty” crowd. These are people who generally live in one way or another off the public welfare teat either through grants or the dole. They then, like angry children try to urinate all over the sensibilities of adults.
As to Edinburgh, I have been several times over the years to their festival. Last year was the last time I will be attending. It is not about the shock value of the shows as I really only go for the Military Tattoo it was about the crappy weather, poor hotels and most annoying of all, the fact that all of the main approach roads to the city have been turned into single lane due to the installation of bus lanes meaning it takes an hour and a half to travel in or out. It’s full of tourists and really too hard.
I’ve seen two comics so far who have been happy to amuse their crowds with Holocaust gags.
Cool. I know some audiences that would be willing to amuse them with thrown chairs and pistol fire.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 08 15 at 09:03 PM • permalink#60 in Britain there’s supposed to be strict anti-hate laws to stop people saying nasty things about foreigners.
these laws are used all the time against the BNP so why aren’t they applied to these comedians??
You forget how arty conferences or film festivals get exemptions from the morality that we others live under.
Hard core pornography used to get free pass as ‘art’ for years. Then it descended into coprophagia, ultraviolence, incest and other ‘pleasant’ arty things [I know only from the reports!].So why are we surprised anti-semitism and hate speech are now being similarly protected?
I know we have discussed the role of humour in times of peril.
I am finding it increasingly difficult to find the humour in anything lately—no matter to whom or how striking the incongruity.
As one of my heroes, Mel Brooks, quipped:
“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an elevator shaft and die.”
Maybe my “E” curve is reaching a low point—better check my Google Desktop “gadget”.Shit.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 15 at 10:11 PM • permalinkA teacher asks her fifth-grade class who said, “we have nothing to fear but fear itself.” Only little Herschel knows the answer: “Franklin Roosevelt, 1933.”
Then she asks the class who said, “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” Again, only Herschel knows the answer: “John F. Kennedy, 1961.”
Someone in the back of the class mutters, “fucking Jew.” The teacher, horrified, asks who said it.
Herschel puts his hand up and says, “Mel Gibson, 2006.”
Ricky Gervais mentions the Holocaust in his show, Politics. He also mentions child abusers, beret-wearing Marxists, Africans etc
Humour is not something any group should be above. Of course, there is good humour that hits the spot and other humour which is rubbish.
I can’t stand “political humour” that sets out deliberately to have a “message”.
However, “two right-wing death beasts walked into a bar and encountered two lefty panty boys…(insert punchline here)”.
I knew these jokes sounded familiar. Heard them weeks ago at The Infidel Fryers Club in Tehran. Zany little guy called Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had the the crowd in stitches.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 08 15 at 10:49 PM • permalinkThank you, Damian P.
I actually chortled briefly, sotto voce, at that one.
Where there is laughter there is hope.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 15 at 11:46 PM • permalink#8, if you want to know about Steve Hughes, got to chortle.co.uk, they have bios there.
cheers.Posted by carpefraise on 2006 08 16 at 12:16 AM • permalinkSo, an Islamist, a Holocaust denier and a terrorist walk into a bar…
and that was just the first guy! Pah dum tish!
Two shows nightly! Tip your waitress!
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 08 16 at 12:30 AM • permalinkDavid, the Festival has problems, it is not just the 2 being highlighted here. Yes it is a range of festivities, including the Edinburgh International Film Festival, the Islam Festival Edinburgh and the Festival of Spirituality and Peace.
The EIFF, first they tried to stop Yoav Shamir from attending, Israeli film director. Then they announced that they would be returning the money from Israel which was to pay for him being present. At the same time they sought further funding from the Government trough. The Festival of Spirituality and Peace, with evenings such as “Four renowned speakers from North America expound an alternative to the “Clash of Civilisations” doctrine, including an approach to understanding Islam and Muslims. With Jamal Badawi, Shabir Ally, Abdullah Hakim Quick and Yusuf Estes.”
Abdullah, he is a real treat, Osama may be a scapegoat not a villian, if flight 93 crashed because of a “valiant fight” how come there was a second plane following them down. OR Global Hawk’s first truly operational use might have been conducted on September 11. Then there is Jamal Badawi He is on the board of CAIR_CAN. And member of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, headed by non other than Yusuf al-Qaradawi, Muslim Brotherhood’s head “intellectual”Then there was the Israeli cricket team that they tried to ban and who had to play behind barbed wire at an airfoce base because Muslim demonstrators were after them. Art critic in support of refusing money and banning cricketers said that they were stuffed full of reservists, like the fact that all Israelis have to do military training was unknown to him. I doubt it, they were Jews, that was the Problem.
Another example of the elites complete disconnect with the society they claim to represent, in this case the artistic elites who claim public funds on the grounds that they understand and explain our societies to us.
Because while the artistic crowd is banning and threatening which ever Jew gets in their line of fire, this says what the unwashed masses think of Lebanon.
“CHARITIES are facing difficulties paying for humanitarian relief work in Lebanon because the public has shunned their appeals.
The British Red Cross and Unicef have managed to raise only a fraction of their multimillion-pound appeal targets, with the public and corporate donors shying away from what they consider to be a highly political conflict….
“It has proved very tough indeed to raise money from the general public and, although we are usually successful with corporate donors, this has proved a very difficult appeal for them to respond to,” he said”
timesonline source.this says what the unwashed masses think of Lebanon.
Very telling. I don’t think the average Pom is angry at Israel for what it is doing to Lebanon. They could not give a rats-arse about the average Leb. They are angry at Israel because they think that the war in Lebanon will widen into terrorist attacks in the UK. Alot of the anger in the British street is directed at Blair for backing Israel. In other words, amorality and cowardice.
After living here for a couple of months, I’m starting to appreciate how Churchill felt in the mid-30s. Politically, it’s very lonely.
If you’re thinking of donating money to Lebanon might I suggest you do as I did, and just buy a kebab instead.
Posted by Daniel San on 2006 08 16 at 06:22 AM • permalink“CHARITIES are facing difficulties paying for humanitarian relief work in Lebanon because the public has shunned their appeals.
The British Red Cross and Unicef have managed to raise only a fraction of their multimillion-pound appeal targets, with the public and corporate donors shying away from what they consider to be a highly political conflict….
“It has proved very tough indeed to raise money from the general public and, although we are usually successful with corporate donors, this has proved a very difficult appeal for them to respond to,” he said”
timesonline source.That was the most telling statement I’ve read about this festival. You may be able to spin everything else, but you can’t spin the fact that usually generous folks are not giving to Lebanon. Have these people bothered to ask themselves why?
Over the past 2 weeks, I have walked into convenience stores, petrol stations, etc., with intent to purchase.
Where applicable, I have asked the attending clerk “Are you a Muslim?”.
If the answer is yes, I walk out.
Just doing my bit.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 16 at 06:01 PM • permalink#81MentalFloss, well done. I do something similar.
When I shop, I always look up the product information, and if it comes from a muslim country, I don’t buy it. There’s a milkbar just up the road run by muslims, and I don’t bother to go there. It’s a shame, because the fish and chip shop next door is not run by them, but I’m not prepared to spend my money in the vicinity.
And they make greatfish and chips.
More and more people are doing things like this. We are forbidden to talk on the threat of legal action, so the talking occurs with the intro “I don’t want to sound racist but…” usually followed by expressions of trepidation about muslims.
My response is that they’re not racist, they’re not alone, and feel free to read the quran. And, of course the PIG to Islam. God bless Robert Spencer!
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 08 16 at 07:26 PM • permalink“Once is a fluke, twice is a trend.”
Once is accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 08 16 at 09:47 PM • permalink
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I’m waiting for the jokes about the Lockerbie plane disaster. That should go down a treat with the folks in Edinburgh.
Or how about a comedy routine mocking the various Scots defeats at the hand of the British? Bring the house down that. I’m sure the ‘comedians’ are easily up to it.