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Michael Moore: plagiarist?

Posted by Tim B. on 11/15/2006 at 02:24 AM
  1. Moore hasn’t spawned a legit thought in his head in decades. Him as a plag is easy enough to believe.

    The frightful part is there’s people dumbass and twisted enough for him to steal from.

    After reading that crap it becomes ever more clearer. This herd needs culling, desperately.

    Seriously though. Can it really be plagiarism if no one in that group is allowed to think independently?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 11 15 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  2. He didn’t plagiarize it. It got caught in his gravitational pull.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 11 15 at 02:55 AM • permalink

  3. His writing is as overweight as he is.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 02:58 AM • permalink

  4. Here‘s the thread at DU.

    Posted by Donnah on 2006 11 15 at 03:03 AM • permalink

  5. In his defence, his fat stubby fingers can longer type on a normal keyboard. He has been rendered cut and paste capable only.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 15 at 03:03 AM • permalink

  6. Thanks for the link Donnah.

    Hey, Tim/Andrea!  Why can’t we have cute little pics against our names?  wronwright could have a little tardis (well, little on the outside anyway), Miranda Divide could have a pic of snarling, foam-flecked lips, paco - a fedora, what else?  Mark L no doubt would choose namesake Mark Latham in full, amer attacking flight.

    Me?  How about a pic of a contented gent with a good red in one hand and a fork full of roast endangered species in the other?  A roaring fire of similarly endangered tropical hardwood in the background.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 03:52 AM • permalink

  7. er, full camera attacking flight…

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 03:53 AM • permalink

  8. MM is obese and verbose, not slim and succinct.

    Posted by Stevo on 2006 11 15 at 04:16 AM • permalink

  9. I think Grimmy’s got it…can you really plagiarize boilerplate?

    Posted by PW on 2006 11 15 at 04:33 AM • permalink

  10. Check out signature on the comment from ‘Full Auto’ —“My life is not worth killing someone else to protect.” - bryant69 from DU—and his pistol-pointing avatar. Bloody hypocrite.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 11 15 at 05:00 AM • permalink

  11. So a wanker who writes turgid crap is getting hetted up that a turd is plagerising his wank.

    id be more embarrased to be accused of writing it in the first place.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 11 15 at 05:00 AM • permalink

  12. Stop Continental Drift: you can add a picture to your profile in your account. Then when people click on your name under the comments that’s what they’ll see. There’s a limited amount of pics available that came with the software, but you can upload your own. (I think there is a size limit. Just google “avatars.”)

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 11 15 at 07:39 AM • permalink

  13. PS: I forgot to add, if you want to add avatars to the comments themselves, you’ll have to ask Tim. It’s up to him what shows up on the blog.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 11 15 at 07:40 AM • permalink

  14. One more thing (it’s early over here and my mind is slow)—no X-rated stuff on your profiles, please. It will be deleted.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 11 15 at 07:41 AM • permalink

  15. I would never admit to writing that drivel, let alone pointing out if someone might have lifted it.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 11 15 at 07:44 AM • permalink

  16. Upon scanning said drivel, it is such a compendium of cliches that anyone could have written it on autopilot without bothering to steal it from anyone else—nothing in it has been original for at least thirty years.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 11 15 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  17. Exactly. I don’t see it so much as plagiarism but rather mantra-chanting.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 11 15 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  18. Spotty and hairy undergrads from alleged “universities” (used be TAFE schools) have been churning out this tripe for years.

    The sad part is that anyone in their right mind and supposedly past puberty would actually complain that their regurgitated boilerplate had been plagiarised.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 11 15 at 08:55 AM • permalink

  19. Mimicry is the sincerest form of flattery, that’s why the left support cloning embryonic research. Pointless really, as they have perfected the ‘individualised collective’ to the point where they don’t regurgitate what is learnt, they simply think as one. My vote is MM did not plagiarise, but they both came up with their petty drivel separately. Besides, MM has a very powerful creative streak that has to be respected. The works he creates are very good and must be the result of a very active imagination.

    Posted by Justin on 2006 11 15 at 09:20 AM • permalink

  20. #11: I agree with frollickingmole: if this is theft, it’s like stealing from a thrift store, or rolling a homeless guy. Very poor net margin.

    Posted by paco on 2006 11 15 at 10:00 AM • permalink

  21. #19 Justin,
    What on earth is an “individualised collective”, it sounds mutually exclusive. On second thoughts, I don’t want to know. As for that fat bastard, any time spent thinking about him could be better spent thinking about breasts.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2006 11 15 at 10:14 AM • permalink

  22. #21 The Individual Collective: Humanoid in appearance, normally adverse to bathing. Those of this group who preen on a regular basis very partial to chardonnay or latte. First to defend the individual over community rights. Mating call varies: Nooooowar, boooshsux or the ever more popular karbooontarx. Not on the endangered species list (at the moment).

    Posted by Justin on 2006 11 15 at 11:05 AM • permalink

  23. Grimmy

    I also think that Moore and “spawn” in the same sentence has an authentic ring to it.

    So many layers so little time.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 11 15 at 12:02 PM • permalink

  24. God how I HATE to agree with Bingley, but that’s the weakest plagiarism case I’ve ever seen.  First, it’s so insipid and puling, who’d admit to writing it in the first place?  (And I didn’t take that from Bingley, I thought it up all by my ownself.)  Secondly, they all say the same sh*t over and over again.  (I would say ‘chant the mantra’, but Bingley’s already invaded and pilfered my thought processes and that sort of wretched, thieving, BASTARD!!ly behaviour should stop.)  You could make a case that any poster this morning on the Huffing and Puffington Post had stolen this goober’s schtick.

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2006 11 15 at 01:03 PM • permalink

  25. It seems we are all agreed.  It doesn’t matter if Michael the Mouth actually plagiarized because all he lifted was a bunch of airy-fairy wishful thinking.  It’s as if the Chinese, instead of counterfeiting Louis Vuitton and Rolex, copied a cartload of K-Mart Specials.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 11 15 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  26. I usually dont post regarding our fat twaddle of an opponent, but I’m drunk and I’d like to say, thus:

    I wouldn’t piss on Michael Moore if he was on fire and made of magnesium.  And was sitting on a large pile of thermite.

    No need to worry about the roof, our old friend physics will sort that fat cant (sic) out…

    Apologies to all that are offended.

    Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 02:15 PM • permalink

  27. #25: It’s as if the Chinese, instead of counterfeiting Louis Vuitton and Rolex, copied a cartload of K-Mart Specials.

    That’d be like somebody plagiarizing himself, wouldn’t it?

    #26: Hey, Wiz, I’m certainly not offended.

    Posted by paco on 2006 11 15 at 02:20 PM • permalink

  28. Poor Michael’s been cranky ever since Wronwright snitched his bath sponge to steal lakes with. ...Well it was just sitting there unused!

    Posted by kiwinews on 2006 11 15 at 02:26 PM • permalink

  29. #27, paco, I never thought of it that way, but you’re right.  Still, that sort of illustrates the left’s circular reasoning, yes?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 11 15 at 02:38 PM • permalink

  30. #29: Oh, absolutely, and that’s a very good point: the Left’s notions of virtue and sanity are almost always self-referential.

    Posted by paco on 2006 11 15 at 02:54 PM • permalink

  31. Hell, Rebecca plagerizes me all the damn time—and she does it even before I post!  What the hell is that!

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 11 15 at 02:56 PM • permalink

  32. #27, Paco, somehow I doubt I have even the ability to offend your indelicate sensibilities, I was more concerned about a certain high ranking female RWDB.

    Better safe than (you fill in the blank, its 10 past 3 in the morning, im going to bed).

    Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 03:12 PM • permalink

  33. “My life is not worth killing someone else to protect.”

    Ah, man. Classic. The convoluted logic there is just staggering, if you unwind it. (And since this is just a thread about Michael Moore, we lose nothing if I digress. So I will.)

    If his life isn’t worth killing to protect, why not? Evidently the other person’s life is very important, even though that other person is threatening his.

    Can the underlying assumption really be that self defense is morally inferior to killing someone for other reasons?

    Most people, oddly enough, hold that lives are per se of equal value, and that the right to kill someone in defense comes from the very fact that they’re the ones threatening you; the aggressor forefeits his own value (or at least some of it, for the duration of his aggression, with the result that killing him in defense is morally preferable to being killed, even aside the issue of encouragement, example, or precedent) by the act of aggression.

    To assert as a blanket statement that your own life is not worth killing in its defense is to indicate either that you think lives are not per-se of equal value (otherwise it would, of course, be a toss-up - on the other hand, he knows his life better than we do, and maybe he just isn’t a very good person; if he literally does mean ONLY his life, and not the life of any-given-defender-of-his-own-life, that’s a separate matter), or that perversely defense is morally inferior to murder.

    The only way out of that that’s even halfway sensible is the assumption that he’s speaking only of his own life in specific, and that he thinks he’s not worth much. Hey, he might be right, and more power to him, then.

    Posted by Sigivald on 2006 11 15 at 03:59 PM • permalink

  34. What does referencing a self-referencer do to the space-time continuum?

    Frankly, I call it Gaia baiting.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 11 15 at 04:12 PM • permalink

  35. What does referencing a self-referencer do to the space-time continuum?

    It causes a stain on the fabric of space-time which is just impossible to get out.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 11 15 at 05:18 PM • permalink

  36. One more thing (it’s early over here and my mind is slow)—no X-rated stuff on your profiles, please. It will be deleted.

    Once again, Andrea crushes our artistic urges.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 05:42 PM • permalink

  37. Pretty weak argument for plagiarism.

    OTOH, he’s supposed to be in favor of file sharing. This is just a little text file sharing.

    Posted by JimC on 2006 11 15 at 07:09 PM • permalink

  38. #33, Sigivald:

    I guess I need me some of that education stuff, because when I read
    “My life is not worth killing someone else to protect.”
    All I got out of that was a feeble hint for help with an assisted suicide.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 11 16 at 01:55 PM • permalink

  39. I am just amazed at how Moore-on can possibly “promise” never to troops to war on a mistake.

    Does he posess some sort of ability to see the future?

    Does he claim to have perfect intelligence?

    If he was so sure Saddam did not have WMD’s, then why didn’t he phone the French President, because Chirac was certainly of the view that Iraq had them - their only difference with the US was in their proposed response.

    Moore is a F-wit - the sooner he moves to Tehran, the better.

    Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 11 16 at 11:56 PM • permalink

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