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Dixie Chick Natalie Maines on patriotism, 2003:
I guess on some level I feel like me speaking out, not only that particular statement, but here today, is the most patriotic thing I can do.
Dixie Chick Natalie Maines on patriotism, 2006:
I don’t understand the necessity for patriotism. Why do you have to be a patriot? About what? This land is our land? Why? You can like where you live and like your life, but as for loving the whole country … I don’t see why people care about patriotism.
As Thomas Jefferson said: “Not caring about patriotism is the ... er ... greatest form of patriotism.”
UPDATE. Maines is from Lubbock, Texas. I spotted a Fiat 850 Spider rusting among other vehicles in someone’s front yard on Lubbock’s outskirts about 15 years ago. Anyone know if it’s still there?
Well Natalie, had you been fortunate enough to have been born in Iraq someone would have shoved a 60mm mortar round into that gaping maw of yours the first time you popped off. What an utter dolt. She’s almost as ridiculously nasty as Miranda Divide. Does she really think she’d like where she lives if no one had bothered to protect it in the 1st place? She should be paying British taxes.
“It was the bullying and the scare factor,” shudders banjo and guitar player Robison. “It was like the McCarthy days, and it was almost like the country was unrecognisable.”
Quick tell us WHICH McCarthy? And if you guessed Eugene, you are absolutely correct, it was almost like the country was unrecognisable.
Wow! Talk about memories. I bought a Fiat 850 Spyder for my wife in 1970. It was a 5-speed manual, and she rode the clutch and lugged it around town in the higher gears so much she wore out the clutch in under 30,000 and burned out the valves at about the same time.
I pulled the engine (only one motor mount, as I remember) and went to replace the valves when I discovered I didn’t have any valve guides small enough. I had to borrow a set from a guy who repaired small gas engines (Tecumseh, etc). The intakes were about the size of a dime and the exhausts about the size of a nickel.
It ran well enough (although you really should have a mechanic on duty 24/7) but I just couldn’t convince the wife to drop to a lower gear when driving around town. So, I sold it (cheap) to my brother-in-law and bought her something with an automatic.
The brother-in-law was only slightly a better driver, but the car was no longer my problem. Last time I saw it (around 1973) it was sitting alongsied a two-lane blacktop in Western Illinois, but I suppose someone may have managed to drag it to Texas somehow.
;->=
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 06 17 at 10:34 AM • permalinkNatalie the short (and wider) version: “Hey, if ‘patriotism’ won’t bring in the bucks, screw patriotism…”
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 17 at 11:08 AM • permalinkToo right, richard. Pandering and projection seem to go hand in hand with leftie artists.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 06 17 at 11:11 AM • permalinkI don’t understand the necessity for patriotism. Why do you have to be a patriot? About what? This land is our land? Why? You can like where you live and like your life, but as for loving the whole country … I don’t see why people care about patriotism.
Professor Maines may be confusing patriotism with nationalism, or could even be expressing a preference for parochialism over the idea of the nation as a civil society having certain unifying features that transcend merely local characteristics and affinities. Or she could just be as dumb as a stump.
Why do you have to be a patriot?
If you turn the other cheek to the thugs, he gets you, but then goes on to get the next guy too, until he runs into a patriot.
Being a patriot is feeling called on to do something about the matter.
If you don’t like the Iraq policy in question, the right target is the policy, not the patriot.
It’s nice if you don’t actively undermine the policy, however ; that is, making it harder for it to work than it otherwise would be.
Be a little selective about how you disagree. That would show patriotism too.
1. It is now the reverse of the Samuel Johnson quote, to wit: “The last refuge of a scoundrel is ANTI-patriotism”.
2. The greatest thing about the old 850 Spyder is it could go anywhere, I used to wander around the upper Cascades where only dirt bikers and serious Jeeps went, and the that little guy would just go. High ground clearance and a rear engine. And unlike VW’s, it actually had a heater… Fun, but really slow.Maines & Co once again make their remarks for foreign consumption. How are those concert ticket sales going stateside, girls? Hmmmmm? Oh, not that great, you say? That’s too bad. Well, I’m sure these fresh quotes will help tremendously. Or, maybe, just maybe, you could try this: Shut Up and Sing.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 17 at 02:51 PM • permalinkNatalie must have been consulted on the new Superman flick. S-man now stands for “truth, justice, and ....” fluffy things?
The new PC SupermanI spotted a Fiat 850 Spider rusting among other vehicles in someone’s front yard on Lubbock’s outskirts about 15 years ago. Anyone know if it’s still there?
I’ve never been to Texas, but my brother-in-law has a disassembled Triumph GT6 stored behind his dad’s garage.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 06 17 at 03:20 PM • permalink“Truth and Justice and all that is Good.”
That’s one movie I won’t be watching until I can catch it on HBO in a hotel room. And then only to cure my jet lag.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 06 17 at 04:07 PM • permalinkI never did get the big deal about Superman. He’s practically indestructable—in order to get any drama into the story you have to bring in some Kryptonite. Dull.
Likewise, I never did get what was the big deal about the Dixie Chicks. They are at best of middling talent and their biggest hit was a remake of a dreary Fleetwood Mac song. They’re like the Madonna of country pop. I’m guessing the only reason they stay in the news is the “outrage” of Natalie Maines’ commonplace “views.” Yawn.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 06 17 at 04:31 PM • permalinkFunny about Fiats. I had a Fiat 1500 Spider back in the late 1960’s. I put 60K miles on that thing and never had a problem at all. Finally some lady ran a stop sign and just kept going. I moved from the right lane to the middle lane to the left lane to the left turn lane and finally even into the median and she hit the side of the car right behind the door hard enough to bend the frame. I got a scratched knee and a ruined car. All my friends who had Fiats had problems with them but I never had any problems at all. Just lucky, I guess. I would love to have another one of those if I could be sure of the same kind of luck. Drove well, rode well, handled well and would even start out in 5th gear from a dead stop.
As for Natalie Maines, she should just STFU and go away.
A Fiat 850 Spyder was hands-down the worst car we ever owned. The 124 Spider we owned just before it was the most fun to drive. As long as it wasn’t raining, at which point the alternator left for vacation, or somewhere that we and the car weren’t.
Dadblamed electrics…cheap knock-off copy of Joseph Lucas’ worst.
Odd though, one of my favorites was the ‘61 Morris Minor convertible. At least it was easy to work on, and it never gave us any electrical trouble at all.
Andrea, I used to be a huge Superman fan, until my mid-teen years. And then I read “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex”, by Larry Niven.
That’s when I Saw The Light, and understood The Awful Truth that Superman was a fake.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 06 17 at 07:42 PM • permalink*sigh* see, stuff like this is why i ended up leaving texas: they started letting folks from michigan & massachusetts come in, with their fancy ideas and their newfangled laws and their rules about not drowning halfwit twits like maines at birth…...
may as well make it official: change the name of the place to baja minnesota and get everyone together for a group hug.
still, even though it’s now all “against the law” and stuff to beat some sense into that silly cow and her little band, texans can still shun them, which they do seem to be doing, don’t they. although it must be said this ain’t exactly showing the spirit of the alamo, it’s what’s left of what used to be texas.
as i said, “*sigh*”.
as far as the fiat thing goes, having grown up in west texas, we know from not-so-good cars. only reason a fiat would be in lubbock texas is if thepoor bastard who got stuck with itowner had somehow lost a bet; or was undergoing some bizarre initiation ritual.Posted by jimmy quest on 2006 06 17 at 09:11 PM • permalink“Great lead singer, they play in tune, musically interesting tunes.”
Maines sings like a little girl in a school talent show, no one should get special kudoes for playing in tune any more than one should get a reward for not pooping in the street, and as for “musically interesting tunes,” you have got to be joking.
Still, people have an unaccountable fascination with bland, dull, plodding, mediocre pop songs. They’ll listen to the Dixie Chicks or Madonna or that Britney Spears person bleat their three-minute jingles and act like they’ve been listening to Handel’s Messiah. And people wonder why I live alone.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 06 18 at 12:16 AM • permalinkAndrea; There’s still hope. Get a Shirelles album quick.
Posted by Pat Patterson on 2006 06 18 at 01:00 AM • permalinkAnd they own Alfa Romeo, whose products are a welcome departure from boring, ubiquitous Teutonic efficiency.
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 06 18 at 04:51 AM • permalinkAndrea Harris — I always figgered you for more of a “Red-Neck Woman” fan…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 18 at 09:53 PM • permalink#47: Andrea! He didn’t mean it! He overdid the mead-and-Everclear zombies and his brain got a little boiled, that’s all. Heh. Could have happened to anybody. Why, Wronwright got a little tight a couple of days ago and you should have heard the things he was saying about you. I can’t remember exactly what he said, but I think Hank Williams, Jr., and paddles figured into it. Let this be a lesson to you gentlemen: if you drink, don’t blog.
Natalie Maines . . . . is she the fat one?
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 06 18 at 11:24 PM • permalinkPaco — We talkin’ ‘bout the same Redneck Woman, bo?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 19 at 12:38 AM • permalinkWhy do you have to be a patriot? About what? This land is our land? Why? You can like where you live and like your life, but as for loving the whole country … I don’t see why people care about patriotism.
Well, Maybe she should ask immigrants why they are more patriotic than those who take religious/economic and political freedoms for granted.
The Fiat probably landed in Lubbock by way of a Texas Tech coed whose daddy bought her the car because it was cute. I don’t think it will rust away because of the West Texas climate. Probably sand blasted from the dust storms.
By the way Buddy Holley was from Lubbock and is honored there. Lubbock has a fairly rich history of songsters. But I doubt Natalie will ever achieve any status in that town.Maines sings like a little girl in a school talent show….
That nailed it. Thank you, Andrea.
Posted by Rittenhouse on 2006 06 21 at 11:41 PM • permalink
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Does this mean that she doesn’t support the troops if they don’t not shoot their officers?