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DESTROY THE PLANET FOR FUN!
The Guardian’s George Monbiot, a few weeks ago:
One of the reasons why so little has been done to stop climate change is that everyone makes an exception for themselves.
Including George himself, who next proceeds to demand restrictions on sport:
I don’t want to be a killjoy and I recognise that many sports are considered a matter of life and death by their fans. But climate change really is a matter of life and death. However important the next fixture might seem, it doesn’t compare to the drying out of sub-Saharan Africa or the flooding of some of the world’s major cities ... To avert [global warming], the latest figures suggest, we need a 90 per cent cut in carbon emissions from every economic sector in the rich world by 2030. And that, I am sorry to say, includes sport.
Beginning with ...
Motor racing. There is a direct relationship between an engine’s performance and the amount of greenhouse gases it produces: the faster the car, the quicker it cooks the planet.
Nonsense. A 40-year-old VW Beetle produces far more pollutants per kilometre than a modern Ferrari. Monbiot is an idiot.
Even sports such as football and athletics that are inherently harmless cause major environmental effects, thanks to the transport of spectators. The organisers of the Sydney Olympics did more or less all they could to make the Games as green as possible: they ran the buildings in the Olympic Village on solar power, used recycled materials and cleaned up contaminated sites. Even Greenpeace gave them a score of six out of 10. But Sydney is on the other side of the world. Just one return journey from the UK to Australia uses twice a person’s sustainable emission of carbon dioxide for an entire year.
Monbiot flew to Australia from the UK only a few years ago. Still paying off that carbon debt, Georgie?
Perhaps we should recognise that some sports are simply too wasteful to be sustained. It is, after all, just entertainment. Can we really live with the idea that we might destroy the planet for fun?
To his credit, Monbiot suggests a replacement for all the sports he would ban. To his eternal discredit, that replacement is ... I’m sorry; I can’t bring myself to type the terrible words:
For years a group of us struggled to find a sport that everyone could play. The young men were happy with football, but women, children and older people got hurt in collisions. We tried hockey, with disastrous results. Cricket and rounders lacked excitement. Then someone suggested ultimate frisbee and we have never looked back ...
It’s a great sport - I don’t why it isn’t played more widely.
A planet under the heel of frisbee people is a planet that deserves to be destroyed.
Stop going to sporting events? No travel? Anywhere? Chase after the same stupid piece of plastic as my stupid dog? Why don’t the Greenies just admit what they really want is for 99.9% of the rest of us to just GO AWAY.
Posted by oldirishpig on 2006 12 10 at 12:02 PM • permalinkHey, I like Frisbees!
Damn you, Monbiot! Damn you!! Damn you to hell!!!!!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 10 at 12:04 PM • permalinkSo it’s frisbees but no V8 cars or cricket?
Sounds bloody wonderful
So instead of the Ashes trophy fought long and hard for by the Aussies and Poms, we have a burnt frisbee?
Instead of the Ford v Holden V8 Supercars rivalry on racetracks around OZ we have Frisbee throwing championships in the local park?
Yes it would make scintillating viewing on telly and the tickets would just be so hard to get for the Frisbee World Cup (which would be held via video link so no contestants would leave their local park
Bring on the frisbees
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 12 10 at 12:22 PM • permalinkPerhaps we should recognise that some sports are simply too wasteful to be sustained. It is, after all, just entertainment.
Which means that sports have one leg up on George.
Posted by Not My Problem on 2006 12 10 at 12:24 PM • permalinkI wonder why Monbiot never drones on about how much CO2 it costs to print his insane gibberish in either newspaper or book form.
Nope, it’s always someone else who needs to make the sacrifice for your junk science rantings, isn’t it, Georgie.
Posted by Crispytoast on 2006 12 10 at 12:30 PM • permalinkIt’s a great sport - I don’t why it isn’t played more widely.
Because it’s ULTIMATE FRISBEE.
Posted by Jim Treacher on 2006 12 10 at 12:39 PM • permalinkPeople should quit going to sporting events and walk to their local parlor and order pizza. Oh, wait.
Posted by Some0Seppo on 2006 12 10 at 01:11 PM • permalinkMonbiot bleats
“There is a direct relationship between an engine’s performance and the amount of greenhouse gases it produces: the faster the car, the quicker it cooks the planet.”
To which Tim observes “A 40-year-old VW Beetle produces far more pollutants per kilometre than a modern Ferrari. Monbiot is an idiot.”
Yes, Monbiot is an idiot, and a wanker, to boot, but the Greens’ success in defining the argument makes him correct in a sense.
They have managed to redefine CO2 as a pollutant, even while calling it merely a greenhouse gas. The smog test for cars in California now includes a reading for CO2, even though it is in no way regulated.
This ridiculous meme has been inserted into the very fabric of government here. The car owner is supposed to look at his test results and feel uneasy, in spite of being completely in compliance.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2006 12 10 at 01:17 PM • permalink“I don’t want to be a killjoy…”
I’d stick to being a clueless leftist moron, Georgie.
You’re awfully good at it.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 01:21 PM • permalinkI don’t know what are y’all complaining about. They are having fun in taking the flavor out of food and nobody does anything about it. Now the Moonbat is warning us: we are going to take the fun out of sports. I bet nobody does anything either. Next: we will take the fun out of life; it’s back to the caves with you!
Posted by ElectronPower on 2006 12 10 at 01:38 PM • permalinkThe Left has *always* been about puritanically controlling the lives of others. There is evidently some gene that makes those who have it determined to make sure that no one else is enjoying themselves.
In this case, I think Monbiot should be taken out and forced to play ‘ultimate frisbee’ until he collapses, then told that he gets the same again tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow . . .
Pretty much like a boot forever smashing a human face, eh?
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 12 10 at 01:45 PM • permalink“Frisbees are made of plastic…”
They could make the one Georgie flings out of compressed bullshit.
I think that would be appropriate.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 01:55 PM • permalinkI’m offended at the lot of you. Why such jocularity at the expense of us Frisbeetarians? Just because we believe when you die your soul goes to the top of the garage and stays there for eternity is no reason to jab funnies. When the day of the Great God Whamo’s return is upon us, then you will know fear.
Even sports such as football and athletics that are inherently harmless cause major environmental effects, thanks to the transport of spectators….Then someone suggested ultimate frisbee and we have never looked back ...
It’s a great sport - I don’t why it isn’t played more widely.
I don’t either. But I also don’t why an ultimate frisbee match would result in less pollution than a soccer match.
I just don’t the logic.
“...as if you were a dog…”
An inapt comparison. Dogs are generally loyal and intelligent.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 02:30 PM • permalink“A planet under the heel of frisbee people is a planet that deserves to be destroyed.”
I agree, I’d rather be dead than be ruled by white boys who wear dreadlocks and reek of patchouli oil.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 02:36 PM • permalinkShorter Moonbore: “Everyone must stay inside, turn out the lights, and hold their breath! Except for us Ultimate Frisbee players.”
Really, why am I not making money from writing? I can come up with better bullshit than that.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 10 at 02:39 PM • permalinkAlmost all climate scientists now agree that two degrees of global warming would trigger off catastrophic climate change, with the potential to displace hundreds of millions of people.
If that happens, the land area under tropical and temperate conditions will increase. How exactly is that catastrophic?
To avert it, the latest figures suggest, we need a 90 per cent cut in carbon emissions from every economic sector in the rich world by 2030. And that, I am sorry to say, includes sport.
Ve vant you to do as ve say!
Because it has to be heated to 1,450°C, and because the chemical process itself releases carbon dioxide, every tonne of cement produces one tonne of climate-changing gas. Steel is even more polluting.
Yes, I hate all of those concrete chunks and steel beams coming out of the tap.
In August, the Evening Standard reported that most of the eco-features that were supposed to have made the London Olympics the ‘greenest Games ever’ have been quietly dropped. Instead of using 100 per cent renewable energy to power the Olympic Village, the real figure will now be more like 10 per cent.
Maybe they decided to use reliable energy?
Perhaps we should recognise that some sports are simply too wasteful to be sustained. It is, after all, just entertainment. Can we really live with the idea that we might destroy the planet for fun?
Can we really live with the idea of the world this moron wants us to live on?
Fifteen years on, most of us are in our forties and still executing some pretty spectacular dives. It’s a great sport - I don’t [sic] why it isn’t played more widely.
We are sending you a message, that’s why. But moonbats are too dense to understand subtlety. No wonder he likes a sport dogs can understand.
Posted by ElectronPower on 2006 12 10 at 02:40 PM • permalinkDASHING FALSE HOPES DEPT.
“Fifteen years on, most of us are in our forties…”
Hey, Georgie, your i.q. score isn’t going to go up, no matter how any years pass.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 03:11 PM • permalink“For years a group of us struggled to find a sport that everyone could play.”
I’d suggest trying sex (a fine indoor sport), but there’s too much danger that you and your loser friends might reproduce.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 10 at 03:38 PM • permalinkWell, Monbiot is out of date! Again, yes, I know, but this….
First of all, it’s now called “Utlimate”, sans “Frisbee” (Wikipedia, grain of salt, etc):
While originally called “ultimate Frisbee”, a term still used by some people, many participants and fans of the sport now call it simply “ultimate”. “Frisbee” is a trademarked brand name for discs made by Wham-O, and in fact discs made by the Frisbee competitor Discraft are now the most commonly used in the sport, although both Wham-O and Daredevil Discs are also occasionally used in competition.
So George is wrong….or merely misinformed. On top of being stupid, of course!
Hmmmmm…..and you Aussies do realize that there is a “World Ultimate Club Championship” held every year? No? Well, the 2006 Championship was held in ..... Perth, last September? What’s up, you let Ultimate
Frisbeepeople stomp all over your turf??!?!?! Maybe wronwright needs to come down and straighten things out, eh?Anywho, it didn’t bring up a lot of media interest, I see. Maybe the WUCC should consider, oh, nude players? With teams comprised solely of attractive young people (I would have said “buxom young women”, but this is a diversified blog, after all) playing in the nude.
Might even be more fun than watching beach volleyball, eh?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 10 at 04:04 PM • permalinkPerhaps George would like to engage in a game of frisbee with this fellow .
The fact that hurricane fetishist Monbiot continues to even be published has got to rank among master Rove and Wronright’s greatest triumphs.
Ol’ Monbioch likely does more to turn English-speaking people off the socialist ‘glowball warmening’ frisbee ride than a thousand Al Gore freezing engagements can manage to muster.
All your frisbees are belong to us.
Apparently not, paco. According to (grain of salt, etc) Wikipedia, it was first used by Robert Heinlein in 1947, and:
Its current use was popularized in 2002 by Perry de Havilland of libertarian weblog Samizdata.net. De Havilland denies that the term was originally a play on the last name of George Monbiot (a columnist for The Guardian), despite assertions to the contrary. De Havilland and Monbiot have appeared on the BBC together expressing politically opposed views.
Apparently not.
But one has to wonder…....was Monbiot influenced by the similiarity to his name?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 10 at 04:22 PM • permalinkI wouldn’t be too quick the discount the powers of the Frisbee People. Are not the rings of Saturn anything other than the lost frisbees of a race of giants?
I thought a game of frisbee football/something with a goal I saw at the MCG in the early eighties had the right combination of kitsch, razzamatazz and downright unwatchability to rank as one of the great lunchtime entertainments of Test history.
Yeah, I’m reading about frisbee on a Sunday morning here in the states. Sundays, when we get nine hours plus of NFL football, and I read about frisbee. NASA needs to find another earth-like planet, and quick. The idea that me and Monbiot live on the same planet is just too hard to take. (For me that is.)
Posted by David Crawford on 2006 12 10 at 04:43 PM • permalinkTo avert [global warming], the latest figures suggest, we need a 90 per cent cut in carbon emissions from every economic sector in the rich world by 2030
Actually, I think the percentage reduction required is likely to be about ten million percent. 100% would be due to humans and the rest to greedy Gaia, since the anthropogenic factor is sweet FA.
We can either spend billions - maybe trillions - of dollars trying not to contribute to global warmaggeddon by sending ourselves back into the Stone Age, or we can spend less money creatively bypassing the effects of Gaia-driven glue-bell worming.
Posted by neoZionoid on 2006 12 10 at 04:46 PM • permalink” However important the next [sporting] fixture might seem, it doesn’t compare to the drying out of sub-Saharan Africa or the flooding of some of the world’s major cities ... “
If I thought for one second that it would help the Cronulla Sharks win a premiership, I’d be over in sub-Saharan Africa with a hair dryer and towel speeding up the process, and whats a few damp cities compared to the Sharks finally winning a grand final?
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 12 10 at 04:54 PM • permalinkNow that I’ve cleaned the weetbix off the monitor (thanks, Tim, everyone else), here’s my 2 bob worth.
I just imagine ultimate frisbee as being like extreme wrestling only with frisbees.
Picture it, the Telstra Dome with the cover on, and protective screens around the perimeter of the oval.
Teams of, say, 10 each, and razor edged frisbees.
Points scored for every cut, with one point for a small scratch and 10 points per limb removed.
Whoever loses the least team members wins.
Now that’s ultmate.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 12 10 at 05:39 PM • permalinkPaco
Current usage of Moonbat explained here.Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 12 10 at 05:57 PM • permalinkBelieve it, or not, George Monbiot isn’t exactly well known around where I live. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone pronounce his last name. Could one of the more advantaged out there guide me in the proper pronunciation of “Monbiot”?
Seriously. My guess is Mon-be-ot. Although, he writes like a French surrender monkey, so maybe it’s Mon-be-o?
#48: I too thought immediately of razor blade encrusted frisbees, but where are the anti-personnel mines, the tiger pits and punji stakes, the starving polar bears ankle deep in ice slush and the corporate box hospitality baskets which include a Remmington 700 BDL and maybe 2 boxes of nickel tipped hollowpoints?
‘sOK Peter Garrett of Midnight (Whale?) Oil fame has the solutions to Howard “fiddling while Australia burns”.
These guys just keep coming up with some gems.
Number one reason to hate “Ultimate Frisbee”.
It’s the favorite pastime of my Austin Texas dwellings
progressiveliberal brother-in-law and the rest of his nere-do-well lay-a-bout friends.Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2006 12 10 at 08:22 PM • permalinkIn peak winter season my wife and I drive 1000 k’s per week taking 3 kids to sport…club, rep, local and interstate. My eldest son had a rural soccer scholarship last year which required him to fly down to Sydney once a month during the season plus attend training sessions and camps all over NSW.
of course we shall stop all that nonsense now and stay home and play frisbee. We don’t have a dog so my son can jump up and catch with his teeth.
I wouldn’t be surprised for Monbiot to call for an end to contact sports, soccer, push-ups, sit-ups and anything that requires you to take off your shirt. The people that support green causes always seemed to be the type of person who was picked last for team sports at school.
I can see them now - “If I can’t play those sports, then no-one can”. The problem for these pasty, unco-ordinated indivuals is that making everyone play Ultimate, will lead to people with an actual semblance balance and skill taking up the “sport” and making them all look foolish.
The Left - sour, joyless and pathologically autocratic.
Posted by boxofmatches on 2006 12 10 at 09:17 PM • permalinkWith the gradual demise of the quarter acre block and the opportunity to play cricket in the backyard or hurl frisbees (bit hard in an apartment on the 19th floor).
Most yards are so small, you can barely swing a cat.
Do you reckon George Moonbat would mind if some of us had ‘cat swinging competitions’ in our cramped circumstances? I’m not keen on frisbees but would love cat swinging. Can I George? Can I can I….
I dunno. The Puritans turned into the Unitarians, and they’re a pretty irritating bunch.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 10 at 10:36 PM • permalinkThe frisbee is the roundabout way of letting people know you are gay without attending bath houses. The Aerobie on the other hand is a totally cool weapon that can kill a man at 100 paces.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 10 at 10:55 PM • permalinkJust to make ultimate frisbee more interesting, there’s always the Metal Rimmed Hat trick. Imagine yourself as Bond without the cool Gaia-raping toys.
Perhaps George was thinking of the Cow Chip Throwing
Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 12 10 at 11:26 PM • permalink#79 Cap’n Heinrichs: I love the opening pitch to the cow chip invitational: “Sick of taking crap from assholes? Then get your butt to Beaver, the sight of the annual World Cow Chip Throwing Championship.”
The Annual World Cow Chip Throwing Championship. In Beaver, Oklahoma. It’s all just so . . . American!
#30
Fifteen years on, most of us are in our forties and still executing some pretty spectacular dives. It’s a great sport - I don’t [sic] why it isn’t played more widely.
Perhaps because many people in their 40s have realised that serious and permanent injury can be sustained by executing some pretty spectacular dives.
After the age of 40 only half your bits work.
The other half hurt.chsw—Hey, I’m buying carbon credits from people who asphyxiate themselves during tacky sex so I can breathe longer.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 12 11 at 09:27 PM • permalink
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