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“Any cop, confronted by any crime, looks for a motive,” writes Robert Fisk. Very well; let’s then search for a possible motive behind the pre-election release by former Democrat congressional candidate Dr. Les Roberts of his latest Lancet-published Iraqi deaths estimate. Here’s Roberts in May this year:
Roberts said, “Republican control of the Congress and White House in recent years has given us the most destructive governance since the Vietnam War."
The pre-emptive war against Iraq and record deficits fueled by “tax gifts for the richest few” have left the United States greatly weakened, he said.
In recent years, “one-party rule has degraded the Constitution and American civil liberties dramatically,” Roberts continued. “We need to do something about that this year."
Democrat Roberts tried something similar in 2004 with his previous inflated death study:
Les Roberts, the lead researcher from Johns Hopkins, said the article’s timing was up to him.
"I emailed it in on Sept. 30 under the condition that it came out before the election,” Roberts told The Associated Press. “My motive in doing that was not to skew the election.”
Sure, Doc. For laughs, check Roberts announcing his 2006 run for office:
I have spent years and years of my life serving my country in foreign wars.
Years and years? Why, Roberts himself must have killed millions! Curiously, while Google News currently records 428 matches for “les roberts” and “lancet”, only eight hits are delivered by a search for “les roberts”, “lancet”, and “democrat”—and not a single one of those indicates Roberts’ attempted Democrat candidature. You’d think this might be worth noting.
(Via must-visit J.F. Beck)
Officer...in the USPHS? Tell ya what, doc, how about you come along next deployment and show me what you got? I’ll try my hand at “public health” and you try your hand in a minefield.
Posted by Major John on 2006 10 20 at 03:27 PM • permalinkOh for @#$%’s sake, the next time someone starts harping about “degraded civil liberties” without offering one single, verifiable, undeniable example of anyone in the US having their civil liberties violated by the government at the hands of Republicans, I’m going to hunt them down and punch them in the face. Hard.
Posted by EmilyJones on 2006 10 20 at 03:37 PM • permalinkRoberts said, “Republican control of the Congress and White House in recent years has given us the most destructive governance since the Vietnam War.”
Uh huh. Destructive if you consider the increasing and overdue loss of credibility and respect given to Democratic socialism.
The pre-emptive war against Iraq and record deficits fueled by “tax gifts for the richest few” have left the United States greatly weakened, he said.
Yeah, really suffering from that weakened economy. Dimwit.
In recent years, “one-party rule has degraded the Constitution and American civil liberties dramatically,” Roberts continued. “We need to do something about that this year.”
What EmilyJones said.
What EmilyJones said.
Ditto.
It’s gonna look like that scene from Airplane.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 20 at 03:56 PM • permalinkAnyone who reads anything I’ve written * here knows one of my most strident complaints is about biased people who perform duties and fulfill responsibilities that require objectivity and non-partisanship. This man should be kicked out of academia and made to wash windows for a living.
* Is anybody reading anything I’ve written? I mean, is it coming out on your monitors? You’re not seeing three paragraphs of blank space, with “wronwright” printed at the bottom, right? Because I’ve wondered about that.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 10 20 at 04:16 PM • permalinkWronwright, I rarely miss a word of your worthy contributions. I enjoy your humour and knowledge.
When outright lies began appearing, unchallenged, via the MSM, the work of freedom loving people became much harder because decent folks will not respond in kind.
I believe that if a persons lies to you, in whatever form, they are virtually saying,"I don’t respect you and I’ll treat you accordingly!”.
We now see this dishonesty repeated by the usual suspects on a daily basis. It is sickening.
I have had the opportunity to testify before Congress
Hey, This guy is doing what the next named guy did------>. John Kerry, worked for him and he could have been THE President.
But the fellow is aptly named. Ready your signage, opposition… We Need Les, roberts. Apologize to all the Robert’s out there.
APRIL 22, 1971
Statement of Mr. John Kerry
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
APRIL 22, 1971
Oh, the beginning of Kerry’s testimony, is where he was against John Kerry, before he was for, John Kerry.
To Wit. “I am not here as John Kerry”
Number one, the rich are actually paying more taxes these days. No one ever won anything by standing up for the individual rights of the rich, though, despite the fact that they carry most of this country on their backs.
This man is one of the most dishonest voices around these days, which is saying a lot! His dishonesty displays a gross disrespect and contempt for his fellow Americans. He feels no need to offer a reasoned argument, but rather pelts us with little turds of assertion dressed up as scholarship on the assumption that we’re too stupid to know it.
These people slipped over the edge years ago when it finally dawned on them that no matter how hard they tried Uncle Sam wasn’t going to shove them up against the wall and shoot them, wasn’t going to ship them to a gulag, wasn’t going to invade their homes and confiscate all their copies of Lady Chatterly’s Lover, The Kama Sutra, and Das Kapital, wasn’t going to round up all the gays and put them in hospitals and lobotomize them—in short, that no one cared enough about them to oppress them. That’s when they cracked. Pay these loons no more mind than you would the crazy man at the bus stop who snatches at invisible flies while ranting about the rays that the Martians are sending into his brain.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 10 20 at 06:28 PM • permalinkIt sounds more like the Case of the Delinquent Statistician, famous for the lines about the fisk that didn’t bark in the night.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 20 at 06:33 PM • permalinkFirst Guiness Brewery guy: “little turds of assertion dressed up as scholarship"
Second Guiness Brewery guy: “Brilliant!”
Posted by Bruce Lagasse on 2006 10 20 at 08:18 PM • permalink#16 saltydog…
“This man is one of the most dishonest voices around these days, which is saying a lot! His dishonesty displays a gross disrespect and contempt for his fellow Americans. He feels no need to offer a reasoned argument, ...”
Problem is, once a “lettered” person makes emphatic statements about anything, the damn thing ends up being taken by many people as fact; doesn’t matter that the so-called expert is nothing more than a dufus. For proof, ask any left-leaning acquaintance what he or she thinks about the terrible loss of life in Jenin at the hands of the Israelis a few years back. Even a Ph.Dufus will play up the fiction of the “homocidal mania” Israeli soldiers exhibited when they slaughtered over 500 innocent women and children… er… make that killed 56 (53?) Palestinians, most of whom were combatants, at the loss of 23 of their own troops.#10 wronwright…
I’m pretty new here, but I enjoy reading your stuff. I agree with most of it except… instead of a window washer, put ‘im in a pig barn cleaning the stalls; no Wellington boots allowed, bare feet only.Gee, I was over at Tim Lambert’s website earlier today, pointing out that Les Roberts was attempting to parlay his joke “studies” into a political career (and also that Roberts began his “study” adventures by sneaking into Iraq in the company of a former Baathist military officer...according to Roberts, anyway), and now Lambert is censoring my posts!
Can you believe that?
;)
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 20 at 09:36 PM • permalinkSo the truth comes out at last. It was just political agitprop disguised as impartial research.
Posted by daddy dave on 2006 10 20 at 09:44 PM • permalinkPaco:
Here’s what shows on my screen above wronwright’s name:
. . . all works and no play makes jack a dull boy all work and no play makes jack a dull boy all works and no play makes jack a dull boy all work and no play makes jack a dull boy all works and no play makes jack a dull boy all work and no play makes jack a dull boy . . .
Seriously, though. Wronwright, paco and many others are the reason I stop by here once a day. I offer my belated gratitude.
’Roberts said, “Republican control of the Congress and White House in recent years has given us the most destructive governance since the Vietnam War.“‘
So, you’re going to express your love of pacifism by becoming part of, and supporting the political party that got the United States involved in two world wars, Korea and Vietnam? Those wars account for virtually all American war dead since our civil war (and the civili war was CAUSED by rebellious Democrats, btw).
You’re a sharp one, Les.
And, a real patriot as well.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 20 at 10:20 PM • permalink#27 cosmo…
I discovered this blog a few months ago. I have some pretty good laughs reading the comments by paco, crittenden, many others, too.It’s getting cold in Canada at this time of year (maybe Mr. Al-Gore is wrong? Must be a friend of Farouk’s!). Think I’ll look in on Tim Blair a little more… too old for ice hockey.
14 El Cid: here’s another reason to be glad Kerry lost.
I have spent years and years of my life serving my country in foreign wars.
That must be why our brave soldier hid in his hotel room during the deaths “survey” in Iraq. He left the work to others, then got the Lancet - edited by socialist and George Galloway sidekick, Richard Horton - to publish it before a Presidential election.
31 paco
here’s another reason to be glad Kerry lost.
Well we had a hint of what she was all along, but never knew who paid until now, it seems.
But how much of that money covered the paper bags? And you’d damn sure need a bunch, a lot much to cover, then at least one for the (excuse my crudeness) barf.
"That must be why our brave soldier hid in his hotel room...”
Les learned early in life that you can’t get room service in the streets o’ Baghdad.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 21 at 12:19 AM • permalinkWhat is even worse than some cheep democratic trick is that the Lancet is being used for overtly partisan political ends.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 21 at 11:49 AM • permalink#20 Bruce:
First Guiness Brewery guy: “reference to Canadian ad and French name, you are Canadian”
Second Guiness Brewery guy: “Brilliant!”
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 21 at 11:56 AM • permalinkI just sent the following mail to the Lancet’s editor:
Sir,
Are you aware that by publishing the article concerning “Excess Iraqi Deaths” in the current issue of The Lancet, you have become a pawn in US partisan politics. Dr. Les Roberts is running for Congress under the Democratic Party ticket, see the URL below.
Indulging in partisan politics destroys the reputation and credibility of a once august scientific journal.
http://www.thatsmycongress.com/lesrobertsannouncement.html
Yours,
Wimpy Canadian
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 21 at 12:12 PM • permalinkOf course, I didn’t use my secret identity :^)
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 21 at 12:16 PM • permalinkIf you are trying to hide the bloody debacle that is Iraq behind arcane conspiracy theories at the world’s most respected scientific peer-reviewed journal then as Bill says: Kool-Aid alert!
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 10 21 at 03:14 PM • permalinkAs Christopher Hitchens pointed out, the silence about the left’s last fetish figure-- the100,000 plus Iraqi children supposed to be killed annually by sanctions - is deafening. Matt Welch probed the origins of these numbers in an article that sheds light on the Roberts/Lancet hoo-ha.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 10 21 at 08:43 PM • permalink#44 Barrie
I thought Marr was going to leap up on the coffee table and froth at the mouth when he was having a go at Bolt; “It’s a conspiracy, it’s a lefty conspiracy. There’s lefties everywhere.” (paraphrased, don’t remember his exact words, but that’s pretty damn close)
Marr was very rude, butting in all the time, talking over Andrew Bolt.The point is, 50,000 or 500,000 you toolheads couldn’t give a toss abt the loss of life, American, Iraqi or just plain old human. This is a smokescreen, a diversion, anything to distract from the utter failure of the iraqi adventure and the fact that all this blood needlessly spilled is on your hands. Actually, you are soaking in it and will be held to account by the supreme being of choice.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 10 22 at 07:05 AM • permalinkAnd where was your concern Miranda for the 400,000 people put in mass graves by Saddam and his cronies? What about the countless others who were imprisoned, tortured, gassed and raped? What about the soldiers he sent to their doom in Iran and Kuwait?
You and your kind have no regard for human life. Your anti-Americanism trumps everything else.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 10 22 at 08:46 AM • permalinkWhen the fraud is uncovered, suddenly they’re crying “it doesnt matter if it’s 50,000 or 500,000 dead, it’s LOTS”. It mattered a great deal two weeks ago. What’s changed?
Posted by daddy dave on 2006 10 22 at 11:19 AM • permalinkYou’d think this might be worth noting.
Tim - you lost the lefties and the Dems (but I repeat myself) after the first two words.
Try talking about something they’re capable of doing.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2006 10 22 at 12:28 PM • permalink“it doesn’t matter if it’s 50,000 or 500,000 dead, it’s LOTS”.
Memo to Miranda:
1. It matters because LIES matter.
2. The real numbers killed in the Holocaust matter.
3. Trashing a respected academic journal for cheap politcal ends matters
4. The number of Israelis Ahm-Mad-in-Jihad says he wants to wipe out matters
5. Getting you to think morally and consistently, not in jingoistic abuse, matters."utter failure of the iraqi adventure”
An utter failure for the lefty(?) faux-anti-war clowns, for the Baathists, and for terror groups like MEK, the FRC, and the PLF (groups the Baathists sponsored)...but not for those of us on the other side.
We’ve already won...and you’re side lost...big time.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 22 at 07:59 PM • permalink
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