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DELUSIONAL SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS

Age cartoonist Michael Leunig addresses the court in defence of David Hicks:

There was an outside chance that he just may have, possibly, harmed American soldiers if he had the opportunity and happened to feel like it at the time, perhaps. Or so they say.

According to Hicks himself, he was delighted to shoot at Indian soldiers after he’d trained with Islamic fundamentalist gang Lashkar-e-Toiba: “I got to fire hundreds of bullets. Most Muslim countries impose hanging for civilians arming themselves for conflict. There are not many countries in the world where a tourist, according to his visa, can go to stay with the army and shoot across the border at its enemy, legally.” The guy just wanted to kill people. Back to Leunig:

They put him in a concentration camp for the crime of that possibility, and kept him there, a million miles from home for five terrible years without trial.

Hicks was placed in Gitmo because he’d also trained in urban warfare tactics with al-Qaeda, a group which killed nearly 3,000 non-soldiers on September 11, 2001.

When they had finished with him - when they had crushed and tormented him enough and weakened him sufficiently and driven him half-mad, and displayed him to the world as an example - they tied his hands behind his back and ordered him to defend himself against all their might and final fury.

When did this happen, exactly?

Defending oneself against American know-how, although a universal problem, is never easy. But when the delusional self-righteousness of the prosecution is so fierce and extreme, to defend oneself is only to face the final climactic round of torture.

Faced with Osama bin Laden’s delusional self-righteousness, Leunig wrote this, only months after 9/11: “Might we, can we, find a place in our heart for the humanity of Osama bin Laden and those others? On Christmas Day can we consider their suffering, their children and the possibility that they too have their goodness? It is a family day, and Osama is our relative.” Consider Leunig’s affection for a wealthy murderer of thousands during his following Hicks hymn:

How may a man explain his innocence to a culture hell-bent on war and conquest? How does a broken heart stand against the vindictive and merciless onslaught of a militarised state tangled in its blinding web of anger, hypocrisy and paranoia? What does the floundering soul of a common man mean beside the greatest array of advanced homicidal technology and expertise ever assembled in the world? And just how does an exhausted little David in chains defend himself against such a ferocious Goliath?

Hicks - innocent, broken-hearted, exhausted little David - in fact joined a group hell-bent, to use Leunig’s words, “on war and conquest”. He took extraordinary steps to do so. His aim was to end “the Western-Jewish domination ... so we live under Muslim law.”

The quiet, steady bearing of Terry Hicks as he speaks about the mad Goliath’s incarceration of his son, David, is sobering and profoundly touching - especially so to men who have sons, or affectionate memories of their fathers, or a sense that love and justice are like father and son.

What of the fathers and sons Hicks shot at in Kashmir?

Terry Hicks is a man of human scale in a political world that has all but eradicated or abandoned such a dimension. And by his measure we may see the extent to which our political system is losing its mind and our ethical system is collapsing.

It sure is, Mike. Well, yours in particular.

But his strength and equanimity are never more evident on that day than when an elderly man scuttles by half-hidden in the crowd and cries out, “Kill the bastard!” The crowd draws its breath and the scuttling man disappears like a ghost but his malignancy remains: an ancient dark curse against Terry Hicks’ unfortunate son who, according to law, is at this stage innocent of any harm to the world.

David Hicks was crying out “kill the bastards” for years. And attempting to do the same. No drawn breath then.

The savagery of the hit-and-run words hover like a foul revelation, reminding all present of why they had come to this street vigil and what it was they were upholding; and about the power of cruelty and ignorance, which would always be there like an incurable, archaic disease in human affairs.

Mostly evident in the likes of bin Laden and Hicks, whom Leunig adores.

When men stop believing in “Kill the bastard” the world as we know it will fall apart because raising armies of aggression and building empires of domination will become impossible. To perpetuate the systems of power and authority it has been necessary to encode “Kill the bastard” into sophisticated signals and transmit them to children from day one.

Should we blame Terry Hicks for his son’s “encoding”?

Without the scuttling man and his ilk there can be no great empire. Without him, the Prime Minister has no fear buttons to press and no hate votes to harvest. He would be forced to do some real man’s work and be a creative leader.

Leunig is moving into deep Leunig mode here. Next, our visionary pal goes undercover:

If you want to hear the secret personal views of the Prime Minister and cabinet go, if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub on a Saturday night after the football.

!!!

You may quickly be reminded of why the planet has been environmentally and emotionally screwed up - and how little political leaders have known or wanted to understand the consequences of their actions and failings while in power.

Those consequences being ... a shortage of air fresheners?

Just as the disastrous and irreversible consequences of environmental abuse take generations to come home to roost, so, too, do the complicated effects of war take time to spread across the face and psyche of humanity. The victors and the vanquished are equally ruined by war - in time we are all poisoned.

Leunig should’ve explained this to Hicks before the idiot began seeking out war zones for a chance to kill people.

It is difficult to comprehend that a president or a prime minister would not understand this vital psycho-ecological principle. It is hard, also, to accept that as one part of humanity seeks to heal the planet another part seeks to burn it up and ruin it with war - just as in the street one man calls for justice and mercy and the other man calls hatefully for death.

The other man’s name is Osama bin Laden. He’s part of Leunig’s family. Despite which, Osama’s followers want to kill Michael Leunig; “Allah’s wrath is on the way” is apparently an acceptable ethnic variant for “kill the bastard”.

UPDATE. The Age’s Tom Hyland on Hicks:

His record and his own words show him to be a military adventurer who embarked on terror tourism, who spouted the rankest racism, eagerly served as a soldier in a savage regime, and revelled in shooting at his perceived enemies ...

At the very least, from his own words, Hicks was a rabid anti-Semite who fought with fanatical nutcases and hoped to spread a global Islamic revolution.

Posted by Tim B. on 02/10/2007 at 01:10 PM
  1. Although I’m a regular reader here, as an American I’m not fully conversant with all the players in Oz.  I of course know who Leunig is from reading your fine blog, but I had no idea that he had written this:

    “Might we, can we, find a place in our heart for the humanity of Osama bin Laden and those others? On Christmas Day can we consider their suffering, their children and the possibility that they too have their goodness? It is a family day, and Osama is our relative.”

    Wow, Tim. That is simply breathtaking. That should be made into a poster to encapsulate the pomposity, the self-regard, the cluelessness, the desperate need of lefties of that type to think themselves better and smarter and more able to see truthiness in all its grand nuances than us hayseeds who just see an evil, murderous piece of shit who will be surprised to find himself here when he thankfully draws his last breath.

    Truly incomprehensible.

    Posted by CraigC on 2007 02 10 at 01:37 PM • permalink

  2. Terry Hicks is a man of human scale

    Luenig’s prose is the same color as an Iraqi voter’s finger.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2007 02 10 at 01:49 PM • permalink

  3. Michael Leunig, you are an ass.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2007 02 10 at 01:52 PM • permalink

  4. What a misty, wishful world Leunig lives in.  When a man can go to Kashmir “as a tourist” and shoot at people (all part of the day-package, I suppose) and be excused for that by people like Michael Leunig, it makes me glad those people are too wistful and fey to be able to actually run things.  Thank God for the hard-nosed bastards who really do run things.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 02 10 at 01:53 PM • permalink

  5. Just as the disastrous and irreversible consequences of environmental abuse take generations to come home to roost, so, too, do the complicated effects of war take time to spread across the face and psyche of humanity.

    The slow inevitability of chickens strikes.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 02 10 at 02:21 PM • permalink

  6. “Might we, can we, find a place in our heart for the humanity of Osama bin Laden and those others?”

    Sure, Mickey. 

    Right after we catch up with the bastard, fry him with napalm, and put what’s left of his head on a stake.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 10 at 02:32 PM • permalink

  7. It seems pretty clear that the valiant martyr that Leunig is describing has no relation whatsoever to the jihad-crazed sociopath justly rotting in a wire cage at Gitmo.  Bereft of Christianity, Leunig now finds his sinless Saviors amongst the mass-murderers of al-Qaeda.

    I hope his work finds wider distribution, leading to even more vociferous denunciation and abuse.  He is absolute filth.

    Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 02 10 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  8. “If you want to hear the secret personal views of the Prime Minister and cabinet go, if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub on a Saturday night after the football.”

    Do you think this observation was based on personal experience? Maybe he harvests the cigarette butts from the urinals. Or perhaps he was hoping to catch someone flushing a koran.

    Posted by Clankylad on 2007 02 10 at 02:40 PM • permalink

  9. Hey, here’s a thought… since Hicks admitted to firing on Indian troops, why not hand him over to India for prosecution?  I’m sure their prisons are much nicer than Gitmo…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 02 10 at 02:46 PM • permalink

  10. “Vital psycho-ecological principle”? WTF does that mean? That it’s a lunatic fantasy?

    Can Leunig “consider… the possibility that” politicians who don’t take orders from him, particularly American ones, might also “have their goodness”? No? Golly. I’m stunned.

    Posted by Don't Bogart that Midget, Comrade! on 2007 02 10 at 03:20 PM • permalink

  11. Maybe Mike should offer to takes Hicks’ place in Gitmo if he feels so strongly about it? And as he sees fit to (semi)quote Scripture while doing it, how about “greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends” in place of “they know not what they do”? No, eh? Hypocrite.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 02 10 at 03:33 PM • permalink

  12. Although I am a civilian, I am an armed civilian employed by the US Navy.  I have stood topside security watches with an M14 against people of Hicks’ stripe.  Nobody, not even a moral paragon like Leunig, can take away my basic human right to self defense.

    Leunig is a waste of sperm.  His momma has solid grounds to sue the hospital for a wrongful birht suit.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 02 10 at 03:49 PM • permalink

  13. The good thing about Leunig is that future generations will see him as a prime example of what happens when moral relativism flourishes.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 02 10 at 04:30 PM • permalink

  14. Its almost tempting to let the other side win, just to see how Leunig etc enjoy the live good old Dave Hicks has planned for us.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 02 10 at 04:47 PM • permalink

  15. Michael Leunig is mad.  He is so caught up in his own self-righteousness and hatred of the Australian Government and people, and the West in general, that he can’t see straight anymore.

    He’s a waste of blog space.

    Posted by ann j on 2007 02 10 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  16. Didn’t Mohamed Dawood"s father Terry Hicks, on first hearing of his sons detention in Afghanistan, tell the Australian press: “He’s a bloody idiot, and he deserves everything he gets”?

    I’m sure he did. You’d think there would be a journalist or two who could confirm/remind us occasionally.

    Posted by Gravelly on 2007 02 10 at 04:52 PM • permalink

  17. Michael has issues.

    Posted by chrisgo on 2007 02 10 at 04:54 PM • permalink

  18. ok so leunig hangs out in smell little toilets on a saturday night….....whatever.

    Posted by vinny on 2007 02 10 at 05:03 PM • permalink

  19. Michael?  I always thought his first name was Moonbat…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 02 10 at 05:54 PM • permalink

  20. “Affectionate memories of their fathers,” well, that doesn’t appear to be a problem facing Hicks’ own children.  He abandoned them to go jihading.  But overall it is probably a good thing he walked out on them. 

    I suppose it’s hard to see David Hicks as a father if you’re thinking of him as a freckle-faced nine year old.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 02 10 at 06:02 PM • permalink

  21. If you want to hear the secret personal views of the Prime Minister and cabinet go, if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub on a Saturday night after the football.

    LMAO! First, at the mental image of Leunig hiding out in smelly old pub toilets, pretending he’s “doing research”.

    Second, at the reality that Leunig wouldn’t be caught dead anywhere near a working class pub.

    As for the bleeding heart crap about Christmas and family, it’s been a very long time since Leunig condescended to spend time with his own family at Christmas!

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 10 at 06:03 PM • permalink

  22. eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub

    I can imagine Leunig doing this, lying doggo in the trough.  “Carry on.  Just pretend I’m not here”...

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 02 10 at 06:14 PM • permalink

  23. Greetings from the left coast of the heartless, dysfunctional and idiotic beast…

    How may a man explain his innocence to a culture hell-bent on war and conquest? How does a broken heart stand against the vindictive and merciless onslaught of a militarised state tangled in its blinding web of anger, hypocrisy and paranoia? What does the floundering soul of a common man mean beside the greatest array of advanced homicidal technology and expertise ever assembled in the world? And just how does an exhausted little David in chains defend himself against such a ferocious Goliath?

    That’s a lot of questions, Mike, but let me try to answer them for you. In order: he can’t; it doesn’t; not an f’ing thing; he doesn’t, in fact, he’s screwed. You’re welcome.

    Clearly Leunig’s trolley has slipped its tracks and is careening out of control.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 10 at 06:55 PM • permalink

  24. A classic demonstration of the left, which has abandonned morality, history and basic humanity with their hatred of the very societies they live in.

    Is this the “psycho-environment” he is referring to?

    I wish people like him would just EFF OFF and take their peace and understanding to, oh, where? ..Somalia, maybe?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 10 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  25. #21 I can imagine if any of those people he was researching found him lurking around evesdropping on them whilst having a piss, they would beat his brains out.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 10 at 07:02 PM • permalink

  26. Is Dickhead Hicks still legally an Australian? I thought he’d revoked his citizenship.
    If he has then surely his fate is not Australia’s concern, and he can stay in Guantanamo indefinitely.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 10 at 07:03 PM • permalink

  27. I am impressed that Tim can find the words to take apart this miserable piece of shit. Reading Leunig’s words simply puts me into a murderous rage. Leunig clearly is on al qaida’s side in this war; but no, #11, he doesn’t have the balls either to fight with them or to take Dawood’s place at Gitmo. All he can do is spew his filth from the safety of a civilized country, shitting all over those who risk their lives to protect his worthless hide. Oxygen thief.

    Posted by Latino on 2007 02 10 at 07:04 PM • permalink

  28. Are we sure this guy is a cartoonist and not a cartoon character?

    Posted by Sean M on 2007 02 10 at 07:13 PM • permalink

  29. Psycho-ecological principle? Leunig is starting to babble. Sure he thinks he knows what he is saying but does anyone else?

    By the way, India is showing some interest in David Hicks aka Daewoo Nubira. Apparently it is an offence to fire bullets across the border into India and in view of Davo’s confession to dad, they would like him to visit India and explain. Wonder if we have an extradition treaty?

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 02 10 at 07:14 PM • permalink

  30. India has extradition arrangements with Aust.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 02 10 at 07:28 PM • permalink

  31. Sure he thinks he knows what he is saying but does anyone else?

    Guess it takes a psycho to know a psycho-ecological principle.

    I can’t decide who likes the USA less, Leunig or this guy. (via
    Best of the Web)

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 10 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  32. They put him in a concentration camp for the crime of that possibility

    Seriously, America has GOT to learn how to run our concentration camps better.  Aren’t prisoners supposed to be starved to death in 5 years?

    Posted by blogagog on 2007 02 10 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  33. Leunig seems to have a problem distinguishing between “justice” and “mercy.”

    Posted by mouseman5 on 2007 02 10 at 07:35 PM • permalink

  34. Wow.  I knew he was looney but this is so delusional I don’t think if I was trying to make up something for Liberal Larry’s blog I could get that far out there.

    Posted by bill w on 2007 02 10 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  35. “If you want to hear the secret personal views of the Prime Minister and cabinet go, if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub on a Saturday night after the football.”

    The (real) Left used to champion the working class - now we get this.

    Posted by Brett_McS on 2007 02 10 at 07:58 PM • permalink

  36. #29 Nicely put Contrail.

    To answer your question. No I expect Australia doesn’t extradite it’s own nationals to foreign countries.

    But I expect the USA can extradite a foreigner to India quite legally :-)

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 10 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  37. #31 I spent 30 seconds scanning this garbage that you enticed me to. Mickey Z reckons the US controls the UN…Ha…

    Now, you owe me 30 seconds of your life.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 10 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  38. The Anglican Archbiship of Melbourne has St Paul’s Cathedral hosting a prayer vigil for David Hicks.

    Even if you accept Terry Hicks’ argument that his son did not join Al Qaeda, that he was in fact a member of the Taliban forces, the fact remains that this guy joined and fought for a regime that, among other evils:

    1. outlawed education for women
    2. forced women to wear burkas
    3. banned women from wearing white socks under their burkas
    4. outlawed kite flying
    5. outlawed music
    6. effectively decriminalised rape
    7. outlawed homosexuality under penalty of death by crushing . . .

    . . . . and I could go on.

    At St Paul’s Cahedral is hosting a prayer vigil for this arsehole.

    Posted by Young and Free on 2007 02 10 at 08:21 PM • permalink

  39. I like this about the uber-Duck of Leunig’s nightmares:

    Defending oneself against American know-how, although a universal problem, is never easy.

    No.  Our Coca-Cola, our McDonald’s, our Rambo films ... encounter them and despair! Oh yeah, don’t get in front of the Abrams, the Apache or the Tomahawk.  Bad things happen there.

    Posted by crittenden on 2007 02 10 at 08:24 PM • permalink

  40. #6
    Right after we catch up with the bastard, fry him with napalm, and put what’s left of his head on a stake.
    No no no. I want him taken alive. Just imagine the press conference…
    “No, I cannot confirm the accuracy of the FOX TV report.”
    “Yes, the woman involved holds a Columbian passport.”
    “No, I do not know if she is an amputee.”
    “Yes, I believe there were traces of narcotics on her person.”
    “Yes, well FOX may say that bin Laden was captured whilst snorting coke from the ass of a one legged Columbian whore, but this administration prefers not to comment.”

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 02 10 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  41. crittenden—not to mention the Caterpillar D-10 if you’re a journalist…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 02 10 at 08:32 PM • permalink

  42. Leunig is right in one respect. The vast bulk of the captives in Guantánomo don’t belong there.

    They should have been a) tried via tribunal under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (with the various Geneva and Hague conventions applicable where relevant), b) convicted of being unlawful combatants, c) shot, d) buried in unmarked graves.

    Posted by David Gillies on 2007 02 10 at 08:34 PM • permalink

  43. David Hicks wants me, personally, dead.

    By his David Hicks took up arms and fought for a belief system which wishes to see all atheists, myself included, decapitated.

    How much sympathy am I supposed to have for a man who wants me dead?

    Posted by Chris Harper on 2007 02 10 at 08:46 PM • permalink

  44. ... they would beat his brains out.

    Could do that using a breadstick as a bat.

    Posted by Achillea on 2007 02 10 at 08:55 PM • permalink

  45. rant rant rant, poor Hicks, blah blah blah evil America, rant rant rant, makes me so sad, blah blah blah, poor common man oppressed by big evil industrial military complex, yada yada yada

    This is just bog standard Green Left drivel.  Anti-American bigotry dressed up as saving the oppressed.

    Posted by bondo on 2007 02 10 at 09:03 PM • permalink

  46. As the Attac poster in one of the uni hallways here says: “The West is employing a strategy of escalation against Iran.” I sometimes wonder what kind of drugs and/or psychiatric illnesses can effect that kind of reality reversal, but in the end I think I’d rather not know.

    Posted by PW on 2007 02 10 at 09:21 PM • permalink

  47. Now now guys
    you may be doing this seemingly daft ‘p o s ‘a very grave insult.
    John Howard has sent a secret emissary to Michael Loony and requested that he pick up his HB110 & to sacrifice his most esteemed reputation on behalf of the Conservatives (Liberals in Oz)and Australia’s future.
    Money would not change hands as Michael is a man of great integrity and would not sell his soul for filthy lucre. However, before JWH retires he will reinstate Knighthoods, dubb ML Cur/SORRY-Sir Michael and send him as our Ambassader to Wazistan.

    I have it on personal authority( well slight exageration) that John Howard is most appreciative of MLS efforts and hopes he can maintain his efforts for another 4 months.

    *With apologies to PACO (perhaps we can collaborate on a film script, I have ideas and you have the skill, I willk eep up the coffee and home made sourdough, bacon and egg breakfasts and help with the typing- I ‘ll do enything to introduce your hunk of a son to my single daughter!

    Posted by Hillyminx on 2007 02 10 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  48. I believe Leunig may be the saddest sack of shit I have ever had the privelege of encountering.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 02 10 at 09:23 PM • permalink

  49. On second thought better leave the typing yo you Paco-seniorcit eyetis

    Posted by Hillyminx on 2007 02 10 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  50. #21,
    Hi Albury,

    Luenig is exactly the type of lefty that cruises (secretly) the toilets of smelly pubs, because that’s the most likely place for a head-tilter to “come” across a bit of “rough trade” as we call it in the western ‘burbs.

    The rest of us would eavesdrop just like luenig says.

    We didn’t learn anything. Heard a lot, but didn’t learn a thing.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 02 10 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  51. That was the written equivalent of a five year old child pouting, crying, snivelling, dribbling, peeing and soiling himself all at the same time.

    Oh, and a head tilt so far to the left it’s lying on the floor beside him. (Which, ironically, is just where some of these Islamists he feels sorry for want it).

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 02 10 at 09:37 PM • permalink

  52. Leunig, from an interview in the Age, July 26 2004:

    A cartoon should illuminate madness.

    enough said.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 02 10 at 09:41 PM • permalink

  53. #52

    A cartoon should illuminate madness

    Why bother drawing when the written word can do it so eloquently?

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 02 10 at 09:47 PM • permalink

  54. No’s 21, 22 and 50, re:

    If you want to hear the secret personal views of the Prime Minister and cabinet go, if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at the pub on a Saturday night after the football.

    Anecdotally, I heard a story about a guy in Sydney termed ‘trough man’ who, erm, wore a 3 piece suit and lay in the urinal for hours while people peed on him.
    I think we may have found our answer to Mike’s ‘research’.

    Next is the story about a glass topped coffee table and ....

    Posted by Nic on 2007 02 10 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  55. I wish Dawood was released from Gitmo. My next wish, is that he is handed over to the Indian Army, so that they can return the ‘hundreds of bullets’ to him personally. My third wish, is that Leunig and all his other leftard supporters would take a sabbatical to the caves of Osama Bin Laden and Iraq, and then finally finish up, enjoying the hospitality of Hugo Chavez.
    Maybe, then media outlets like Fairfax, ABC etc, will get some real news stories, with proper journalists, not propagandists.
    Then again, I probably have a better chance of winning the Lottery.

    Posted by BJM on 2007 02 10 at 10:08 PM • permalink

  56. The (real) Left used to champion the working class - now we get this.

    Amazing eh, when you have groups calling themselves “Socialist Worker” that commonly sneer at the ignorance of the working classes.  Probably because the working classes of a country like Australia are no longer poor enough to be “saved” from their employers or to buy the bullshit victimology being spread by them.

    Posted by bondo on 2007 02 10 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  57. A cartoon should illuminate madness

    So a picture is worth a thousand five words when Leunig is doing the artwork!

    Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2007 02 10 at 11:21 PM • permalink

  58. Chris Harper - “How much sympathy am I supposed to have for a man who wants me dead?”

    Indeed - I could paraphrase that: “How much sympathy am I supposed to have for a man who wants me in a burkha?”

    Its astounding that Hick’s female supporters apparently have not taken this into account. 

    Perhaps Lefties like Leunig, who on one hand preach ‘peace’ while wishing our soldiers dead but cheer on men like bin Laden and organisations like al-Qaeda, are conflicted about their sexuality. Maybe they have the same kind of feelings as Lawrence of Arabia towards those big bad Sons of the Desert.

    Arab terrorists are probably the ultimate in rough trade.

    Posted by dee on 2007 02 10 at 11:40 PM • permalink

  59. Hicks is depraved. The pro-Hicks camp is reduced to using a photo of him at nine because every other photograph in existence inconveniently portray him about to abandon his young kids after snatching the last jar of vegemite from the pantry, about to launch a mortar into an orphanage in the heart of Europe or performing abominable, unspeakable acts on small helpless animals.


    Has Leunig considered what would happen to his ducks if Hicks was let loose among them for twenty minutes?

    Posted by geoff on 2007 02 10 at 11:50 PM • permalink

  60. Leunig would be an even sadder little duckman.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 10 at 11:56 PM • permalink

  61. A tourist on a visa shooting hundreds of bullets across the border.Wow! Sure makes fishing seem tame.
    Maybe that’s why the Indian government want’s to talk to him.
    Tim, please don’t post any more of Leunig, it turns my stomach.

    Posted by waussie on 2007 02 11 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  62. It looks like some of Loonie’s buddies have been busy:
    http://tinyurl.com/ypopef

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 02 11 at 12:16 AM • permalink

  63. if you dare, and eavesdrop for an hour or two in the smelly old toilet at The Age…

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 02 11 at 12:24 AM • permalink

  64. I have commented on Leunig threads so often I’m nearly out of original material - maybe I could do an Adele Horin and regurgitate an old story, shuffle, shuffle, ah, here we are…

    “So I was talking to my friends recently returned from Paris over a latte at my favourite barista in Balmain, and they said to me that in France, an Aussie cartoonist called Michael Looney or something had like that, was famous for writing a whole bunch of anti-Semitic stuff and seemed to be a lover of Saddam and Osama and that terribly deranged fellow who runs Iran and why would this be so….
    and I replied helpfully, because he’s an insane Jew hater and an Osama lap dog….”

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 02 11 at 12:35 AM • permalink

  65. Out of all the bleeding heart, moonbat tripe written in support of Mohamed Dawood, this damn near takes the cake!
    I want Dawood back in Australia and I want him now. Then we’ll see how many of the looney Left makes a friend of him. You know, have him around to stay the weekend, have a few beers up the pub with him every Friday night. The likes of Michael Looney, Mike Carlton, Alan (‘Senile’) Ramsey, Terry Lane, Tony Jones, oh the list of attendees is endless at the Dawood homecoming bash knees up - no grog (might offend the guest of honour), no pork spare ribs (ditto), no bacon crisps (ditto). Wow! Can I come?

    Not one of these media hypocrites would even talk to this loser let alone have a drink with him. They just use Dawood as a stick to bash Howard and Bush, nothing more, nothing less.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 02 11 at 12:56 AM • permalink

  66. “I got to fire hundreds of bullets. Most Muslim countries impose hanging for civilians arming themselves for conflict. There are not many countries in the world where a tourist, according to his visa, can go to stay with the army and shoot across the border at its enemy, legally.”

    Sounds like he - David Mohammed Hicks Daoud - is almost salivating in glee at his chance to kill people.

    I wonder how Leunig feels about Muslims who automatically hang people for carrying a weapon?

    Posted by carpefraise on 2007 02 11 at 01:03 AM • permalink

  67. In Leunig’s article we see a microcosm of humanity’s struggle against using its intelligence.

    Posted by carpefraise on 2007 02 11 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  68. #36

    To answer your question. No I expect Australia doesn’t extradite it’s own nationals to foreign countries.

    Australian does extradite its nationals provided there is an extradition treaty, there is no death penalty on the table, and the crime the person is accused of is a crime Australia. For example, we wouldn’t deport someone to Venezuela just for saying Chavez is a dickhead. But shooting at your citizens, that is a crime here in Oz. A week in an Indian prison would have Daewoo Nubira wishing he was back in Gitmo.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 02 11 at 01:30 AM • permalink

  69. #39. Jules, speaking for myself, I love your McDonald’s, your Coca Cola and your Rambo.

    I’m even more partial to your Abrams, Apaches and Tomahawks.Especially the bad things that happen to those idiot enough to be in front of them.

    Give us more!

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 02 11 at 01:56 AM • permalink

  70. Sounds like Loonig was glory holing down at the footy club again and caught some gossip while he was down at the members end. Urinal cakes apparently taste like slightly salty barley sugars. (I said apparently)

    Posted by CB on 2007 02 11 at 03:29 AM • permalink

  71. Tom Hyland, bullseye.

    Promoters in the media have this self-confessed killer’s name on everyone’s lips.

    And the names of the thousands of victims of the brand of hatred this fellow espoused?

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 02 11 at 04:30 AM • permalink

  72. Leunigs toilet stalking enters the modern age

    Posted by bondo on 2007 02 11 at 04:52 AM • permalink

  73. I would have thought it impossible, but Leunig’s article is even crazier and more offensive in full than the exertps quoted indicate.

    Posted by McAnzac on 2007 02 11 at 05:16 AM • permalink

  74. I look at the SMH site daily and am amazed at the superficiality of the Dawood coverage.

    Under what law would they expect him to be charged with if he came back to Australia? What penalty would be available? Would there be technical difficulties in getting a prosecution (e.g. if the law only applies to activities in Australia, not overseas)?

    I personally hate retrospective law. And I don’t like setting a principle of extra-territoriality – law of a country applying outside its borders (with exceptions for the conduct of its soldiers, diplomats etc).

    At the same time, I wouldn’t want to see Dawood’s return to Australia to result in his freedom. He is not fit to move around as a free person. He is absolute scum. Filth. If the left is comfortable with him doing so, then it exposes as a lie their apparent concern for racisim, gay rights, women’s rights etc.

    Why do the SMH, the Age, and the ABC still refer to him as David Hicks when they guy voluntarily changed his name? Isn’t it considered a slur to refer to (say) Muhummad Ali as Cassius Clay? Why is it any different for Dawood?

    Posted by Effing & Blinding on 2007 02 11 at 05:57 AM • permalink

  75. I’m having some fun over at Quiggin’s commie workshop pointing out the flaws in the “legal” arguments being made in Hicks’ defense.

    He’s deleting my posts and my links to the Geneva Conventions as fast as he can.

    That ol’ boy is a hoot.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 11 at 06:29 PM • permalink

  76. Goodness, now Quiggin is deleting my words and substituting his words under my name.

    “Dave Surls Says:

    February 12th, 2007 at 8:06 am

    I’m an annoying chickenhawk who can’t take a hint. “

    Can’t academics get fired for doing that sort of thing?

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 11 at 08:19 PM • permalink

  77. When men stop believing in “Kill the bastard” the world as we know it will fall apart

    When free nations stop putting ‘Kill The Bastard’ types behind bars for the safety of us all, the world as we know it will fall apart..

    Leunig is now officially resident in the Fantasyland he draws so touchingly.

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 02 11 at 11:00 PM • permalink

  78. “None of this means he deserves the treatment he’s been subjected to since he was captured in Afghanistan in late 2001 and taken to Guantanamo Bay. Even ratbags are entitled to justice.”—Hyland

    Oh, hogwash.  Hicks is being interned just as if he was a protected non-combatant who posed a security risk, which is covered in the 4th Geneva Convention.  Try reading it sometime

    He hasn’t been denied justice.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 12 at 01:02 AM • permalink

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