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DAMS FLANNED

As predicted by sciencemagologist Tim Flannery, this month was supposed to see Sydney’s dams run dry. Instead:

At last the rains have fallen in the right places and Sydney’s dam catchment area has had its best drenching in years ...

Dam levels are predicted to rise by up to 5 per cent, pushing drinking water storage levels to 45 per cent, the highest in three years.

In fact, we’re looking at the wettest June since 1964; excellent news following Australia’s prolonged drought. It could be that, similar to the Goracle himself, the Flannacle possesses magical weather-altering powers. Speaking of the drought, Flannery had this to say a month or so back:

“Even a year ago this would have been unthinkable,” Flannery told AFP. “I think it’s the most extreme and the most dangerous situation arising from climate change facing any country in the world right now.”

And another May comment:

In a keynote address, Flannery provided an update on the acceleration of global warming, from the rapidly melting Greenland ice sheet to the unprecedented drought that has gripped Australia.

But following recent rain, Flannery has lately changed his tune:

“I believe the first thing Australians need to do is stop worrying about ‘the drought’ - which is transient - and start talking about the new climate.”

In May, the drought was “the most extreme and the most dangerous situation arising from climate change facing any country in the world right now”; a few weeks later, and we should stop worrying about a “transient” weather phenomenon. Flannery is in flat-out flip mode. Not that he’s given up making ridiculous predictions:

Environmental researcher Tim Flannery has warned that Brisbane and Adelaide - home to a combined total of three million people - could run out of water by year’s end.

I’ll take that bet. According to these figures, Adelaide has enough water to last until late January, 2008, even if not a further drop arrives before then. Brisbane has sufficient supplies to last until October next year. Flannery, however, will certainly run out of “Australian of the Year” glory points by 2007’s end. Then he can commence building Geothermia.

UPDATE. More from Flannery, back in 2005:

Scientist Tim Flannery predicts that one morning in the not-too-distant future in one of the major cities, taps will be turned on, and instead of water, there will only be a whistling in the pipes.

Not a drop. Totally dry.

A question to the global warming faithful out there: when you talk about “overwhelming scientific evidence” and “respected scientists”, are you including Flannery in that? Because I’m not getting much of a feeling that Flannery consults any charts or tables or records before announcing these predictions of his. It’s more like he comes up with whatever crap he thinks will scare children or sell more books. Is Flannery an embarrassment to you people yet?

UPDATE II. I wonder how the San Pellegreenoid’s “Three Phone Calls” campaign is going.

UPDATE III. This woman should stop complaining and start making $50,000 speeches:

Inspired by climate change campaigners Tim Flannery and Al Gore, Jane Majkut became determined to cover her roof with solar panels and buy a new hybrid car.

Then she found out what they cost.

Yep; green ain’t cheap.

Posted by Tim B. on 06/17/2007 at 12:59 PM
  1. Environmental researcher Tim Flannery has warned that Brisbane and Adelaide - home to a combined total of three million people - could run out of water by year’s end.

    Or be wiped out in flooding. It depends on what happens. BTW, was Flipper Australian, too, or was that just Skippy?

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 17 at 01:44 PM • permalink

  2. The left has cornered the market on pseudo-intellectual pseudoscientists.

    Posted by Hucbald on 2007 06 17 at 02:26 PM • permalink

  3. Global warming means never having to say you’re wrong.

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 17 at 02:27 PM • permalink

  4.   “I believe the first thing Australians need to do is stop worrying about ‘the drought’ - which is transient - and start talking about the new climate.”

    It doesn’t matter WHAT you worry about, it just matters just that you WORRY. Therefore, you CARE. Therefore, you are a superior person. Therefore, you get to rule over the rest of us noxious rabble.

    Posted by nofixedabode on 2007 06 17 at 02:38 PM • permalink

  5. #3 Either way, the believers win.

    If nothing happens to global temperatures, it’s because they did something.

    If something happens to global temperatures, it’s because the denialists didn’t do anything.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 17 at 02:38 PM • permalink

  6. “Please, Professor Flannery, mention my town!”

    “No, no, mention mine!”

    “Professor, here’s my firstborn…”

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 17 at 05:05 PM • permalink

  7. Australia should forget about moving people and agriculture to the country’s north because the increased rainfall there won’t last, scientist Tim Flannery says.

    He says the Asian “haze” is responsible for wetter conditions, and as Asia cleans up its air, this effect will disappear.

    Not sure when Asia will get around to cleaning up its air, and this effect - as you’d expect - comes from his beloved computer models, but Junk Science had this to say:

    ... Flannery should do a search on Kakadu or maybe Art Linklater, the Humpty Doo Rice Project, Fogg Dam and various other 1960s-era projects—Australia has a wet ‘top end’ and has done so for a long time. This has nothing to do with the Asian Brown Cloud and everything to do with being in the wet tropics. Flannery is a gibbering nitwit and getting worse by the day.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 17 at 05:24 PM • permalink

  8. Flim-flannery.

    Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 06 17 at 05:53 PM • permalink

  9. If you’re being paid 50 grand or so to speak to a crowd, I guess there’s an understanding that you can’t just stand there and say everything is going to be okay.

    For far too long, wandering the streets with soiled trousers and a sign saying “The end of the world is nigh” has involved no pay and miserable conditions. Full credit to Flannery for professionalising it.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 17 at 06:39 PM • permalink

  10. OT Breaking in Melbourne: Three shot in the City.

    It’s been all over the Today Show, and they’ve just confirmed one person has died and two are critically injured.

    Will post updates as I hear them.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 17 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  11. And if you worry enough then something big has to be done and if something big has to be done it has to be done by the biggest, most wide-spread bureaucracy possible with the most highly paid bureaucrats and, especially, highly paid consultants like Flim-Flannery.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 06 17 at 07:00 PM • permalink

  12. I’m very sorry to hear about the shooting, but I thought Australia had very strict gun laws to prevent this stuff.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 06 17 at 07:01 PM • permalink

  13. #1

    At the risk of being seen as the harbinger of doom, Brisbane is indeed in danger of flooding.

    When Wivenhoe dam was built, it was for flood mitigation. Now it is used as water storage. Once it fills again, it will be kept near full, with no spare capacity to hold flooding rain.

    Hopefully this won’t happen before 2012 and the world would have ended by then and floods would have ceased to cause the problems they do now.

    If the world does not end at that time, Flummery shall be burned as a witch cause he was wrong or ascend into heaven.

    We are not worthy

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 17 at 07:14 PM • permalink

  14. #7 Dminor Thanks for the link.

    On 25 May I said I have come to the considered opinion that the man is stark raving mad, i.e., a complete fuckwit.

    On 27 May I said again I have come to the considered opinion that Flummery is stark raving mad

    However, Steve Miloy’s comments at JunkScience could be more elegant.  Yes indeed, Flannery is a gibbering nitwit and getting worse by the day.

    Hmm, but maybe there could be a useful outcome here.  The whole phenomenon of Flannery’s behaviour patterns and the gullible journalists and crowds who lap up his words, which could be a type of collective psychosis, could become fertile ground for future PhD research into human behaviour.  On the subject of collective behaviour, Jonathan Lowe over at Gust of Hot Air has a good summary about Global Warming Communism.

    Another item: yesterday on Fox8, I watched a trailer for Ian Thorpe’s new film, (he claims it’s a really a documentary) “Fish out of Water”.  Yes that’s right folks, our one and only Ian Thorpe, Olympic swimmer and Fashion Promoter has found his environmental conscience.

    Now isn’t that just fine and dandy, though I suspect Ian could have been learning at the feet of the Great Master Flummery.  I lost count after hearing fifteen ‘You Knows” as he spoke.  One thing though, there was a segment showing Peter Garret saying Australia doesn’t need nuclear power because “we have ample supplies of gas and coal!”  Priceless!

    Thorpe’s film called “A Fish Out of Water” is aptly titled.

    [PS Please note my attempt at widespread use of the word ‘could’ in this discussion - I’m getting better].

    Posted by Wand on 2007 06 17 at 07:15 PM • permalink

  15. Damn, those weather Flannocasts just didn’t come true.  We’ll have to look at the statistics again…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 17 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  16. Earth Frenzy Radio described Flannery as Australia’s most eminent scientist. If it is correct, the state of science in Australia is in deep shit. The truth is of course that Flannery’s main claim to fame is not in the world of science but in self-promotion. He has no more claim on the title of “most eminent scientist” than ABC journalist Robyn Williams.

    AAP this past week has been describing the lawyers Labor and the Greens hired for a opinion on Howard’s Kirribilli House dinner as “eminent” barristers. The worst offender was Maria Hawthorne, whose bias on the subject astonishing to the point of defying her own journalists code of ethics. She was even reluctant to say that it was Labor who hired “eminent” lawyer Bret Walker.

    A quick Google search reveals that Walker and the Greens, silk, Estcourt, have records of left wing and anti-Howard activism. Both lawyers were active in trying to free convicted would-be terrorist David Hicks and Walker headed the legal team that was trying to prove that the Government failed in its duty to protect David Hicks.

    Their opinions are politically driven

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 06 17 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  17. This fellow Flannery; isn’t he one of Australia’s - whaddayacallem - living treasures? Isn’t it maybe time to have him, er, reappraised? Perhaps shift him from the “gold” list to the “pyrite” list?

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 17 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  18. It’s global warming!  No… it’s climate change!  No… it’s transient!  No… it’s…

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 17 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  19. #16 - I prefer “most prominent scientist” - ie, the one which wanks the most.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 17 at 08:02 PM • permalink

  20. #18 Rebecca: Puts me in mind of those video shots of a crowd watching a tennis match - the heads turn this way, and that way, this way, and that way . . .

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 17 at 08:03 PM • permalink

  21. #10 - re OT breaking news in Melbourne: why did ABC radio, which has immense news resources and is literally a few hundred metres from the shooting scene, fail to cross to live reporting at the scene - particularly given the shooting occurred at 8.20a.m. and peak hour commuters were streaming into the city and required uninterrupted updates?

    Instead, Jon Faine resolutely carried on with a scheduled interview with a euthanasia campaigner.

    Posted by ilibcc on 2007 06 17 at 08:09 PM • permalink

  22. RE: Melbourne Shootings.
    One of my mates who works in the area for AON:
    “our building is in lock-down…which means i can’t go out for a smoko. which seriously sucks hey.”

    Posted by fankytomato on 2007 06 17 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  23. If there’s any more rain, Geothermia can be turned into a hot springs wellness spa.

    Posted by PW on 2007 06 17 at 08:41 PM • permalink

  24. “I believe the first thing Australians need to do is stop worrying about ‘the drought’ - which is transient - and start talking about the new climate.”

    Putting that through the decoder comes up with. “Dont build any more dams, or I will look like a bigger fool than I allready am”

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 06 17 at 08:46 PM • permalink

  25. #16, Contrail,

    He’s a palaeontologist, i.e a discoverer of old bones. The hound-dog of the scientific world. This gives him the authority to comment on anything scientific.

    Tim, don’t forget his comments about the crazed wild camels and the exinct koalas.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 06 17 at 08:49 PM • permalink

  26. BHP Billiton has just issued this press release re their climate change policy. Seems they have joined the Rupert Murdoch School of Agressive Climate PR. Link.

    Posted by CO² max on 2007 06 17 at 08:49 PM • permalink

  27. Aggressive*

    Posted by CO² max on 2007 06 17 at 08:51 PM • permalink

  28. “So I got really excited and did a lot of research. But when I found out how much it would cost to get solar panels and a hybrid car it was quite discouraging.“Instead, Mrs Majkut has resorted to cheaper methods, the favourite being nagging her husband, John.

    Nagging? As the entire world knows after being extensively nagged by Al Gore, Tim Flannery, Bob Brown, Ralph Nader, Kevin Rudd, Peter Garrett, and just about anybody else with access to the media, nagging makes a big difference.

    Every little bit counts!

    Posted by TimT on 2007 06 17 at 09:13 PM • permalink

  29. Betting on long term weather forecasts is a lot like betting on the behavior of cats. You’re more apt to lose a huge fortune than gain one.

    Posted by mythusmage on 2007 06 17 at 09:15 PM • permalink

  30. #3
    Global warming means never having to say you’re wrong.

    Pure gold!

    The snake oil placebo effect, in that a better/worse change is attributed to the snake oil.

    Flummers knows he’s onto a winner, as does the Goracle ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 17 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  31. #7
    the Asian Brown Cloud

    Flummers should curb his personal emissions?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 17 at 09:37 PM • permalink

  32. It’s interesting to take a step back from the story of Nagging Jane and ask oneself a simple question:

    Why is this “article” in the newspaper?

    Despite being in the news section, it’s not a news article: it’s just over-the-back-fence gossip. “Jane thinks solar panel are too expensive” is no more a news story than “Madge just bought a new dishwasher” or “Sharon’s become an Enjo lady”.

    I look forward to The Age’s next journalistic investigation of national interest, about how that slut in number 32 keeps flirting with Cheryl’s husband.

    Posted by blandwagon on 2007 06 17 at 09:47 PM • permalink

  33. Coldest day in Hobart in twelve years. I blame global warming.

    Posted by C.L. on 2007 06 17 at 10:05 PM • permalink

  34. Re #32, maybe the news is that solar panels aren’t cheap?  ;-P

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 17 at 10:06 PM • permalink

  35. Asian Brown Cloud sounds like a disease, you know, like blackwater fever, which describes the state of your urine when you have it.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 17 at 10:18 PM • permalink

  36. OT, but the non-professional salesman opera singer has scored himself 100,000 pounds.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 17 at 10:32 PM • permalink

  37. Flummery youtube: WWF interview

    Note the wild, wide eyes ... points of dramatic emphasis on the snake oil?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 17 at 10:51 PM • permalink

  38. From Update III link above:

    Now we’re doing a lot more to save water, like bailing the water from our showers into the toilet and tipping the washing machine water onto the garden.

    I don’t know why we have indoor plumbing*, bucketing water everywhere. Using water from the shower to flush the toilet.

    Someone made a good point here at timblair.com some time ago. What’s going to happen to the sewerage system in Brisbane when there is no water going down it? It won’t work without water, it relies on the extra water to keep it working properly.

    *But I suppose when we all move into caves and rock shelters and lean-tos and burn dung to cook our lentils we’ll be used to living the hard green eco-friendly life.

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 17 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  39. CBD shooting update:

    Scuttlebut from an associate in one of the insurers is that the killer had earlier that morning got into an altercation with people at a night club before the shooting happened.  The rumour is that at least one of the people shot knew the man.

    Than again, it’s just scuttlebut

    Posted by fankytomato on 2007 06 17 at 10:59 PM • permalink

  40. There’s big money in the global climate change scam.  Alas, that P. T. Barnum is dead and unable to jump on this bandwagon, so perfect for him.  “There’s a scuker born every minute.”

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 06 17 at 11:08 PM • permalink

  41. O/T:

    Marr goes loco over Coco Roco case: is this dude getting more paranoid?

    Perpetual protector of the poison pen ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 17 at 11:09 PM • permalink

  42. This is getting stupid. My sister-in-law (a devout sciencemagologist) even thinks Flannery is just plain loopy these days. I wonder how many others he’s driving from the Church?

    Posted by Hanyu on 2007 06 17 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  43. #40: Alas, that P. T. Barnum is dead and unable to jump on this bandwagon, so perfect for him.

    Ah, but he lives on in spirit, Michael, he lives on in spirit. And, indeed, it is his picture that graces the board room of Paco Enterprises; I like to think that, everyday, we do him proud.

    Posted by paco on 2007 06 17 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  44. #42 my sister in law is a devout sciencemagologist too. Maybe we have the same sister in law

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 06 17 at 11:37 PM • permalink

  45. I suggested to a young work colleague on Friday that Warragamba Dam would be 70% full by the end of the year. She burst out laughing. I bet her $10 (she’s a junior and will need to eat). I’m confident I’ll collect and was especially so after 100-plus millimetres (four inches) fell across much of the catchment on the weekend. And just wait for the mother of all cold snaps hitting the NSW tablelands Tuesday night / Wednesday morning. What will Flanno say about that?
    Good news is that it’ll be fine when the ‘pies smash the Swanettes at Homebush on Saturday night!!

    Posted by Ben Haslem on 2007 06 18 at 12:19 AM • permalink

  46. #45, Ben,

    I’d say that will be the easiest ten dollars you’ve ever made. ;-)

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 12:40 AM • permalink

  47. OT Singing artiste, (“I’m not here for your entertainment”) Pink is about to release a protest song as a single in Australia and Europe called Dear Mr President.

    Ms Pink is entitled to write and perform pretty much anything she wants, however the dodgy bit is this (from the above link):

    She stated that it will never be released as a single in the United States because it will lose its meaning and impact if radio stations overplay it.[1] quote]

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 01:09 AM • permalink

  48. #47 - It’s really quite impossible to overstate how craptastic that song is. It’s the aural equivalent of receiving a reverse enema.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 18 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  49. Paul Potts has won the Prize of 100,000 pounds, and the honour of performing for the Queen!

    A splendid end to a cinderella story, and one hopes,  a great beginning for the guy, who wants to do what he believes he was meant to do… 

    I caught his winning performance via google/ videos/ paul potts…

    Posted by heather on 2007 06 18 at 02:25 AM • permalink

  50. Gene Gene the dancing machine has more political relevance than Pink.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 06 18 at 03:55 AM • permalink

  51. Not to mention entertainment value.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 06 18 at 03:58 AM • permalink

  52. #47, another example of life imitating comedy. A mockumentary of Norwegian faux boy-band Boyzvoice, featured the song “Hey Mr President”.

    If you like the lyrics, check out some of the videos (including “Twelve year old woman” and “what’s happening to my body?”).

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 06 18 at 04:03 AM • permalink

  53. #38, kae

    But I suppose when we all move into caves and rock shelters and lean-tos and burn dung to cook our lentils we’ll be used to living the hard green eco-friendly life.

    Way back when the environmental movement was the ecology movement, I remember thinking that they would not be satisfied until we were back in the trees plucking fruit.  Those who think that far ahead don’t even see us doing that, much less living in caves.  They see us all dead, because we are a cancer upon Gaia.  Those who don’t look that far ahead don’t really give a damn about Gaia, but do care very much about bringing all of us under control—with them in charge.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 18 at 04:06 AM • permalink

  54. #53

    But I suppose when we all move into caves and rock shelters and lean-tos and burn dung to cook our lentils we’ll be used to living the hard green ecoGaia-friendly life.

    There you go.

    Nothing’s changed, eh?

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 04:26 AM • permalink

  55. Presumably Timmeh Flannery, the Oz Climate Primate, is aware that efficient Geothermal* electricity plants utilise cooling water and cooling towers juz like coal-fired plants?

    *Hot dry rock technology, per International Geothermal Association

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 04:37 AM • permalink

  56. “green ain’t cheap”

    and therefore, not entirely green either.  On object’s cost is still a good predictor of its environmental impact; the manufacturing process of solar panels is not entirely eco-friendly.

    Posted by 2dogs on 2007 06 18 at 04:41 AM • permalink

  57. #55
    Pissy lil’ 46 MW Geothermal plant in Svartsengi, Iceland.

    Noice steam funnels, eh?

    It ain’t coal smoke, Al, it’s steam OK?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 04:58 AM • permalink

  58. End of the year/Jan 08 would not be much different to me if I was living in Adelaide. That does some pretty grim which ever way you slice it. Flannery is clearly flakey and I do not ‘believe’ in global warming, but surely those south australians have got to be panicking!

    Posted by captain on 2007 06 18 at 05:35 AM • permalink

  59. OT again

    So-called “Tim Blair” finally got his come-uppance in the Daily Telegraph letters to the editor today. After reading Tim’s latest column, a canny reader has concluded that Tim may in fact be on the payroll of the Australian Labor Party.

    About time someone was willing to say it like it is to that ne’er-do-well.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 05:41 AM • permalink

  60. #58,
    In the 70s there was talk of towing icebergs to Adelaide but I digress.
    The blindingly obvious answer to Adelaide’s fresh water problems is de-salination but that requires lots of energy.
    The politically ‘cleanest’ source of sufficient energy is nuclear.
    South Australia exports up to 4600 tonnes of uranium oxide from Olympic Dam (7% -10% of world production) every year.
    The ALP premier of SA has promised to legislate to prevent a nuclear power plant “ever being built in the state”
    As they say in the USA, go figure.

    Posted by chrisgo on 2007 06 18 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  61. #6 Pickles: the latest BOM forecast implies that we are in for neutral conditions come the Qld wet season, although rainfall for winter in southern Australia should still be good.  We need a couple of good years to offset the overall water deficit, particularly in the Murray Darling Basin.  Things aren’t so dire for the Wivenhoe Dam catchment.

    Pity it is less likely to be a La Nina summer, but at this time of year the forecastis often uncertain, but could still swing to very good news (given conditions, it is almost impossible to swing to an El Nino).  if it is a La Nina , the odds are very high that Wivenhoe will fill.  The distribution of inflows to the dam in La Nina years ALL exceed the amount needed to fill the dam.  It is less likely in a neutral year, but significant inflows can still occur. 
    BTW.  Wivenhoe full is about 1100 Gl (or a bit over two sydharbs).  However, it is capable of holding over 1500 Gl (or three sydharbs).  The difference is used for flood mitigation.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 06 18 at 06:57 AM • permalink

  62. contrail - Bret Walker happens to be as good or better than the present High Court bench.  He is without doubt in the top 5 counsel in Australia.

    I had the pleasure to brief him and hear his performance.

    While I have no idea on his opinion in this matter, I note JH was at pains to point out it wasn’t a fund-raiser and the Liberal Party re-paid any funds raised.  I reckon even the libs agree it is naughty to use public property for political fund raising.

    re melb shootings - they say the 2 guys were innocent bystanders and the creep was involved in a qld shooting previously - hope they get the scumbag

    latest poll has labor primary going below 50% for first time in 6 months - muddy ruddy is sticking

    #69 - Tim is a labor stooge - that is the sort of thinking we need in the UN chief - oh wait ...
    re flannery - I hope he goes on to keep making stupid statements and when all this loses momentum he will start shrieking even more, and eventually someone will ask him a serious question and he will explode.

    Posted by peter m on 2007 06 18 at 07:22 AM • permalink

  63. Greenie screamie time in the Hunter (yet again). Kurri aluminium smelter plans to treble its size to meet Chinese demand,  so a new coal-fired power station is in the offing. Probably new coal mines to supply the power station, too. And more jobs. Sound of teeth gnashing.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 18 at 07:26 AM • permalink

  64. #37
    Flummers’ next video?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 07:32 AM • permalink

  65. OT, but Media Watch is currently laying the boot into this site. Bigtime.

    Posted by Steve at the pub on 2007 06 18 at 07:34 AM • permalink

  66. Tim

    Monica Attard rips you and this blog on Media Watch tonight for not moderating comments. Are you scared?

    Posted by MannyC on 2007 06 18 at 07:36 AM • permalink

  67. #65 any publicity is good publicity!

    Posted by entropy on 2007 06 18 at 07:36 AM • permalink

  68. Monica’s self-righteousness is somewhat hypocritical. She publishes the “vilest” comments onscreen and has them dramatically read.

    Posted by MannyC on 2007 06 18 at 07:38 AM • permalink

  69. Hahahaha. El Cid and Kae, Howzat, Grimmy, you’ve made MediaHacks.

    Tonight’s effort is all about the dreadful racist comments in papers, and brings up the suggestions that people who express their views should do so in more polite terms.

    From this thread.

    Comments #6, #7, #80, for example. With one of Grimmy’s gems hahahaha.

    Needless to say, Monica didn’t show any of the anti-aussie comments that also end up on the online reader comments pages.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 07:41 AM • permalink

  70. O/T

    Media Watch.

    I’m famous, along with El Cid and Grimmy and I can’t remember who else (maybe Paco), for this, about composting.

    It seems we’re racist!

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 07:46 AM • permalink

  71. Jeepers you’re quick with the info, Nilk, took me ages to find the comments….

    Sheesh.

    I blame age.

    and Racism.

    Oh, and it’s probably a cultural thing, too.

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 07:50 AM • permalink

  72. #70
    It was that wicked, wicked ingenue.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 06 18 at 07:50 AM • permalink

  73. #72
    You mean reading it?

    Erk! I don’t sound that bad…

    well, maybe I do…

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  74. Fair’s, fair: we give meeja <strike>crotch</strike> <strike>botch</strike> watch free publicity, too.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  75. Geothermia, where the wind comes sweepin’ down the plain
    And the wellin’ sweat can sure smell … sweet
    When the wind comes right behind the … er, rain.
    Geothermia, Ev’ry night my honey lamb and I
    Sit alone and talk, I’m such a dork,
    Makin’ lazy theses, claims and lies.
    We know we belong to the land
    And the land we belong to is Flanned!
    And when we saaaaaaaay
    Yeeow! Ayipioeeay!
    We’re only sayin’
    You’re doin’ fine, Geothermia!
    Geothermia’s O.K.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 06 18 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  76. Of course we are, Kae, we don’t cringe and scrape to minorities.

    Nor do we say sorry to supposedly stolen generations.

    Just once, I’d like to see some bloody gratitude for what western civilisation has provided the moaning whiners.

    I’m tired of being labelled as racist/discriminatory or oppressive because I happen to be an “anglo-aussie” (whatever happened to just being an aussie??) by people who are apparently asylum seekers and have no respect for the culture of their new homes.

    I feel like I’m living in a bloody Monty Python sketch.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 07:56 AM • permalink

  77. Hahaha, kae. It’s called “search”. Go back to the main page, and down the left panel there is a box you type a phrase in.

    I typed in “taxi driver”.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 07:57 AM • permalink

  78. #75
    Blogstrop, I’ll be singing that at work tomorrow.. maybe not.

    #76
    Nilk, I agree. If you voice any opposition or criticism, you’re a racist. Oh, except if you are a member of the minority, then you just have an opinion, even when that opinion is racist!!

    #77
    You’re all over it, like you are on lots of stuff. I was using google. Damn, I’ll use that search in future…

    So, someone help me out here.
    Am I famous or

    infamous?

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 08:05 AM • permalink

  79. Nilk, didn’t you know the oppressor has no rights the oppressed need respect?

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 06 18 at 08:06 AM • permalink

  80. Someone should tell Monnie and her minions that Muslim isn’t a race.

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 08:06 AM • permalink

  81. Kae, you are a legend. Who cares whether you are famous or infamous. As Oscar said (I think) “The only thing worse than being noticed is not being noticed.”

    Hmm.Good point, locoti. I’d consider using the fact I was born overseas as my get out of jail free card, but I was born in the States, so I’m doubly damned.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 08:16 AM • permalink

  82. Just in case the thicker members of their audience don’t get it (and they know their audience), Media Watch demonstrate contempt by adding broader accents.

    Thus the voice-overs for Blair commenters make Steve Irwin sound like Princess Anne. Comments they like are delivered in a slightly English accent like a private school headmaster. The subtext: Australian = racist.

    Of course, the entire pretext of the episode was to have a go at this forum.

    BTW You lucky bastards, Monica is kinda hot when she gets all scoldy…

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 08:17 AM • permalink

  83. #76
    Tks for the memories.

    This scene is prolly still relevant to Monnie’s muzzi mates.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 08:22 AM • permalink

  84. 82# What the bloody,by jingos ar ya sayin woman,You mean our bloomin comments sound bloody hell,stone the fuckin crows like this on that abc picture show.

    Posted by sparrow on 2007 06 18 at 08:29 AM • permalink

  85. Ah damn it.  I endured an hour of Telstra-bashing on 4 Corners and just couldn’t stick it out for Media Watch.  I might have to racistise (?) my comments if we’re gonna get air time…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 18 at 08:31 AM • permalink

  86. ‘kin oath.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 08:32 AM • permalink

  87. Also notable: they aired comments from all of the other editors, but seem to have overlooked Tim’s right of reply.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 08:40 AM • permalink

  88. #78 Kae

    Your neither. All three of us that were watching Media Watch tonight were probably the entirety of the audience. Tim Blair readers no less.

    Posted by MannyC on 2007 06 18 at 08:43 AM • permalink

  89. #76 Nilk. It seems Monty Python’s Life of Brian becomes more relevant to reality with every passing year.
    Love the last lines in the clip in your link:

    Reg:
    ...what have the Romans done for us...

    Xerxes:
    Brought peace!

    Reg: What!? Oh…
        (scornfully)
        Peace, yes…Shut up!

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 18 at 08:45 AM • permalink

  90. Will someone lock monica in her house where she belongs?

    They could also slice off her clit while they’re at it.

    Now I’ve got your parasitic broadcasters attention…

    Feck off you lazy leftie, west-hating, racism-projecting, arrogant bunch of addicts of other peoples hard earned money.

    ABC should go subscription rather than conscription.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 06 18 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  91. Tim Blair, who edits The Daily Telegraph’s opinion pages, also runs a blog.

    He allowed this vicious discussion about Muslim taxi drivers supposedly knocking back passengers with guide dogs.
    ——————————————————-

    I must remind my blind mate who has put up with this shit that SUPPOSEDLY it’s all in his head.

    Posted by sparrow on 2007 06 18 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  92. #85 Anthony, I watched that too. I used to work for Telstra but escaped in 98. Never worked in a call centre, but never heard anything good from them, either.

    I was with cust services when they were bringing the call centre structure in, and all the monitoring stuff back in the early 90s, and it shat me then.

    How on earth are you supposed to do your job when you’re always looking over your shoulder?

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 08:50 AM • permalink

  93. #81
    Doubly damned indeed, you Yankee imperialist fascist bully-girl.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 06 18 at 08:59 AM • permalink

  94. #93. Yup. And I’m goodlooking, too. I even shave my legs.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 09:00 AM • permalink

  95. mediawatch transcript up here

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 06 18 at 09:02 AM • permalink

  96. Monica dahling, look what that naughty man said at #90. Surely, you must make an example of him on your next show!
    (Rob, some people will do anything to get themselves on TV, but I never thought you were like that ;-))

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 18 at 09:03 AM • permalink

  97. OT Breaking. 31 children rescued and 700 suspects arrested worldwide as a paedophile ring is smashed.

    Here. And here.
    I won’t comment as I’ll end up on MediaWatch as one of those bigoted, racists and otherwise commenters.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  98. #92 nilknarf, I still do work for the organisation.  We’ve gone through myriad reorgs and new management regimes.  Some were pretty awful but not exactly worth slashing your wrists over.  4 Corners has really scraped the bottom of the barrel blaming Telstra for those deaths.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 06 18 at 09:14 AM • permalink

  99. I’ve just come in on all this. Was watching Supernatural and the Torchwood.

    I read the Meeja Watch transcripts.

    I have just one thing to say to all of you qouted on the program.

    CAN I HAVE YOU AUTOGRAPH???????

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 09:15 AM • permalink

  100. Damn.  “Your” autograph.

    frigging preview!!!

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 09:16 AM • permalink

  101. #90
    Former staffer making a case for Scrapping the BBC.

    Applicable to our ABC ...

    ... it should operate more like newspapers and allow strong opinions and viewpoints rather than being a balanced and an impartial observer.

    Makes the case that to show ‘impartiality’, the Beebs bashes the incumbent Govt; Privately owned media is truthful or readers wouldn’t buy it (FauxFax?)

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 09:17 AM • permalink

  102. Can mediawatch do an investigation into so-called paedophile news as an attack on muslim values?

    After all in some cultures, women are property and they are free to be married at six and the “marriage” consecrated at 9.  To call it paedophilia is culturally insensitive.

    /leftwing deranged moonbat

    I’ve just had a thought.  Whenever I think up something this stupid, the left top it with something even worse.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 06 18 at 09:27 AM • permalink

  103. Did Monica of MediaWatch provide the context to those three comments?  Isn’t that the shield of protection by the Islamists?

    Hells bells.  Most of the commenters here use liberal use of hyperbole, parody, and satire to bring emphasis or humor to their comments.  And yet, I would bet Monica didn’t draw attention to any of that. 

    What’s next?  Will she be airing a show on unscrupilous neoconservative multinational corporate globalists exploiting Chinese prison labor to sell FIGHT GLOBAL WARMING braclets at Pink concerts?  (Yes paco, I saw your booths).  Or one on how the neocons have a time machine, an orbital space station, a Japanese weather machine without an operators manual, an Alpha moon base, a fleet of Birds of Prey, and a 7th century monastery/orientation center at their disposal?

    Sounds like partisan journalism to me.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 06 18 at 09:41 AM • permalink

  104. Oops.  Just realized that I missed my assigned class at the orientation center.

    Anyone know when the makeup test is at Moon
    Base Alpha?  I’m going for my Bird of Prey Advanced Mechanics certification….

    Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 06 18 at 09:47 AM • permalink

  105. #101

    Former staffer making a case for Scrapping the BBC.

    Applicable to our ABC ...

    Might the Left have taken a leaf out of the Islamic playbook - preemptive massive whining?
    And might that explain all the whinging recently about the “crushing of dissent”  and “silencing” of the Left.
    Are the Marxists terrified at the prospect of losing their main propaganda arm, the ABC?

    If only Monica Attard was silent…and out of sight. Yech.
    The ABC should be scrapped.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 06 18 at 09:51 AM • permalink

  106. #91
    He allowed this vicious discussion about Muslim taxi drivers supposedly knocking back passengers with guide dogs.

    Ran that through my RWDB translator and came up with:

    ABC staffer knocking back suppositories doggy-style in the back of a cab.

    Sounds plausible.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 09:53 AM • permalink

  107. You have to wonder if the Greenies are simply useless or telling porkies as Tim Flannery seems to be doing.

    Posted by rsloch on 2007 06 18 at 09:55 AM • permalink

  108. O/T:
    Death Row Inmate Wishes to Be ‘Dead Man Laughing’: hosts contest for best gallows humour joke to be recited in his “Last Statement”.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 10:15 AM • permalink

  109. Monica the Mistress of Pain has spoken, blairites, All here must submit to their punishment. Any suggestions?

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 06 18 at 10:18 AM • permalink

  110. #104 Tex:

    Confirm you are GO for Attack Plan “R”. Good Hunting.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 06 18 at 10:22 AM • permalink

  111. Who destroyed the Beavertown Dam?

    George Bush does not care about beavers

    Posted by Room 237 on 2007 06 18 at 10:57 AM • permalink

  112. Since I’m just a Yankee Imperialist Running Dog, I can’t comment on Media Watch (idiots, aren’t they?).  However, Tex, I can spot you a ride in the Tardis and jump you back, if you like (for a hefty fee). 

    They think these comments aren’t moderated?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Andrea, sharpen your spear! 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 06 18 at 12:40 PM • permalink

  113. Yeah, but let some of their ignorant diatribes be quoted and there are immediate shouts about “context—taken out of context!” 

    I am really pissed.  I’ve written quote worthy anti-Islam stuff, and I know that I wasn’t being sarcastic or farcical or using hyperbole because I’m about as dry and unfunny as they come.  So why wasn’t I quoted?  There is no justice!

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 18 at 01:34 PM • permalink

  114. Tim was talking about dams and rain and stuff, which reminds me of the time when I was down in the Snowy Mountains, sitting on a bar stool in the Lake Jindabyne Hotel in the springtime. That afternoon was like any other, I suppose.

    Except that the skies opened up and the rain came crashing down so heavily that day turned to night.

    Now, in the High Country, the weather holds few surprises. Summer drought and the choking haze of bushfires replace winter snow drifts several metres deep. Dry winds that’ll crack your lips in minutes are slaked by lightning storms that can nail the laundry door shut with hailstones.

    Looking out through the plate glass windows toward the range that day, there was nothing but a distorted maze of raindrops that seemed to come crashing down and drift upwards at the same time. All with the roar of corrugated iron under a drum roll of cascading water.

    Through it all, an old fella who ran a mob of about three or four hundred sheep up on the Mowamba River came walking in along the side verandah and then straight up to the bar. Reaching out for a beer, he looked up from under the stream of water still running off the brim of his hat, and said;

    “We might git’bit of rain, if this keeps up.”

    Posted by splice on 2007 06 18 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  115. #74 egg
    yeah, that’s right.

    I was taken out of context, of course.

    #85 & 92
    I worked for Telecom/Telstra on the admin/tech side (fault despatch, depot clerk) in the 80s. I’ve only ever heard bad stuff about call centres. You must ask to go to the toilet and it’s become more and more a performance job, you must perform.
    I can understand the stress.
    Working for a tyrant is not pleasant.

    #113
    Sorry, Salty, your comments are much more worthy of wider publicity… however, you didn’t say mean things.

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 05:36 PM • permalink

  116. #81 “Media Watch‘s sins were scarlet, because they’re all Reds”?

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 18 at 06:23 PM • permalink

  117. #61 Entropy

    Thanks for the story on Wivenhoe.

    Logical, sensible information coupled with simple numbers and relevant examples is a rare joy.

    I hope you do this stuff for a living.

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 18 at 07:11 PM • permalink

  118. #63
    Due to an increase in demand for alfoil hats?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 12:58 AM • permalink

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