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Martin Amis on sympy stupey liberals:

People of liberal sympathies, stupefied by relativism, have become the apologists for a creedal wave that is racist, misogynist, homophobic, imperialist and genocidal. To put it another way, they are up the arse of those that want them dead.

(Via Art Vandelay)

Posted by Tim B. on 01/18/2007 at 11:20 AM
  1. Better late that never, I guess, Martin.

    Posted by Mike G on 2007 01 18 at 11:26 AM • permalink

  2. >Leading British writer on terrorism and Islamism Martin Amis

    Leading novelist maybe, but “leading writer on terrorism and Islamicism” he ain’t (aside from a few overblown prose pieces about 9/11).

    I wonder whether he would have had quite such robust opinions on this matter had he not been an old friend of Rushdie, an old friend of Hitchens, an old friend of Robert Conquest, and of course the son of Kingsley.

    Posted by Blithering Bunny on 2007 01 18 at 11:45 AM • permalink

  3. People of liberal sympathies, stupefied by relativism, have become the apologists for a creedal wave . . .

    Hang ten, dudes! Can’t wait to see you try to shoot that tube!

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 18 at 12:00 PM • permalink

  4. they are up the arse of those that want them dead.

    It’s getting more and more crowded in there.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 01 18 at 12:11 PM • permalink

  5. Amis has always hated Islam.  His opposition to the Iraq war is not rooted in respect for Islam and hatred of the west.

    If you haven’t, then do yourselves a favour and read Koba the Dread.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 18 at 12:43 PM • permalink

  6. #5 Murph: Is that his book on Stalin? I have been meaning to get hold of it; will do so now, for sure.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 18 at 12:50 PM • permalink

  7. paco

    Yes it is.  It’s a must read.  Utterly horrific and sad.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 18 at 01:03 PM • permalink

  8. "It’s getting more and more crowded in there.”

    Smells like crap too.

    Of course, that’s true of any place leftys congregate.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 01 18 at 01:15 PM • permalink

  9. They may be racist,etc., but at least they aren’t Republicans.

    Posted by Latino on 2007 01 18 at 01:31 PM • permalink

  10. Here’s the direct link to the interview in The Independent.

    Another good snippet:

    The phrase “horrorism”, which you invented to describe 9/11, is unintentionally hilarious. Have you got any more? JONATHAN BROOKS, by email

    Yes, I have. Here’s a good one (though I can hardly claim it as my own): the phrase is “fuck off”.

    Amis is a snot, but I have to give him a woohoo for that one.

    Posted by 68W40 on 2007 01 18 at 01:49 PM • permalink

  11. #7: Vladimir Voinovich, the great Russian comic author, has written some scathing satires of Stalin and the Stalinist period. Probably his best known work is The Extraordinary Life and Adventures Of Private Ivan Chonkin. A book of short stories, In Plain Russian, includes a story (the title escapes me) about Stalin and a meeting with his henchmen that is a unique blend of farce and terror. I cannot recommend Voinovich too highly.

    Probably the most horrifying book I ever read about the Stalin Era is Execution By Hunger, by Miron Dolot. The book deals with the Ukrainian famine engineered by Stalin as part of his collectivization program. Absolutely heart-breaking history.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 18 at 01:52 PM • permalink

  12. "They may be racist,etc., but at least they aren’t Republicans.”

    In America liberal means Democrat, and saying that they MAY be racist is like saying the sun may be warm.

    At least going by their past record.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 01 18 at 01:56 PM • permalink

  13. From the full article in the Independent:

    The phrase “horrorism”, which you invented to describe 9/11, is unintentionally hilarious. Have you got any more? JONATHAN BROOKS, by email

    Yes, I have. Here’s a good one (though I can hardly claim it as my own): the phrase is “fuck off”.

    linky

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 18 at 03:58 PM • permalink

  14. Apologies - read through the comments twice and still missed 91B30’s contribution.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 18 at 03:59 PM • permalink

  15. Simon Montefiore has a great book on Stalin, The Court of the Red Tsar. Stalin is possibly the biggest mass-murderer in history if one considers all victims from all causes.  Stalin was a true psychopath who is roasting in hell if there is any justice.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 01 18 at 06:37 PM • permalink

  16. #15 - I wouldn’t bet on Stalin with Mao in the running.  The Great Helmsman probably edges out Uncle Joe by a few million.

    However, the genocidal prize for the 20th Century Murderous Dictator Stakes, on a per capita basis, goes to Pol Pot, who wiped out a third of his populace.

    Commies always like to say “you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs.” I guess because it sounds more homey than “You can’t make an omelet without slaughtering a few million innocent victims.”

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 01 18 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  17. But...but..communism hasn’t been properly implemented yet, it makes sense in theory!.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2007 01 18 at 09:16 PM • permalink

  18. Actually it doesn’t even make sense in theory (economic theory at any rate).  Von Mises demonstrated that Central Planning won’t work in 1922.  It’s due to what is called the Economic Calculation Problem.  Without free price movements you cannot logically decide what to make, how to make it, or what methods and materials to use in order to make goods and services in an economically efficient matter.  That’s why the USSR got 10 ton chandaliers and nails too thin to be hammered.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 01 18 at 11:01 PM • permalink

  19. And sun-glasses too dark to see through.

    Posted by guinsPen on 2007 01 18 at 11:40 PM • permalink

  20. Communism: 80 years, 100 million broken egges, no omlette.

    Posted by DocMike on 2007 01 19 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  21. Muslims, Lefties, Arseholes and Shit. Only two of these things have a positive role to play on a healthy planet.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 01 19 at 01:30 AM • permalink

  22. Yeah, don’t let a mountain of corpses get in the way of a pet theory.  Pure evil.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 01 19 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  23. #2 Smarty’s memoirs of a few years ago are often about his disagreements with Sir Kingsley, Conquest and Hitchens over decades. I think that he’s now imposing some personal bugbears unnecessarily on the present situation, but when he sounds like his old sparring partners he’s waking up and smelling the coffee.

    Posted by Andrew R on 2007 01 19 at 06:14 AM • permalink

  24. Daniel San

    Another chance to impliment the glory of socalism is in progress right now.

    http://tinyurl.com/2xzcks

    Chavez has been granted the authority to rule by decree alone.
    No opposition, no debate, no restrictions.
    Remind me again what lefties allways claim righties do in democracies???

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 19 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  25. Scratch any leftist deeply enough and you find a genocidal wannabe.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 19 at 07:52 AM • permalink

  26. #25: Scratch any leftist deeply enough . . .

    I tried that yestderday, Grimmy, and they just screamed like little girls and ran off.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 19 at 01:38 PM • permalink

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