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CREDULOUS ACCEPTANCE

While critical of crazy British-style reporting on the AEI’s so-called $10,000 “bribe”, environmentalist types David Roberts and Andrew Dessler nevertheless believe such reporting has about it the coveted ring of truthiness:

After years of efforts to deny or obfuscate mainstream climate science - driven by ideology, fossil-fuel funding, or some unknowable mix of the two - conservatives simply are not trusted on the issue. A story about a right-wing think tank funding attacks on science is credulously accepted precisely because it conforms to recent history. Most people expect it to be true.

Aha; in other words, it bespeaks a reality.

(More on this from John Ray.)

Posted by Tim B. on 02/15/2007 at 02:39 AM
  1. So the blatant fallacy is accepted because it conforms to previously exposed blatant fallacies.  Of course.  How could I not have seen this before?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 02 15 at 02:48 AM • permalink

  2. Excellent. This gives us licence to punch lefties in the mouth before they speak. “Sorry, I was conforming to type.”

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 15 at 02:51 AM • permalink

  3. “Aha; in other words, it bespeaks a reality.”

    Or you could say, “It agrees with what their faith preaches.”

    Posted by blogagog on 2007 02 15 at 03:00 AM • permalink

  4. This is starting to slide from religious fervor to outright superstition.  What’s next, amulets for lefties to ward off RWDBs?

    And now, I’ll betcha, someone will link to such a product.  It’s so stupid, it has to be true.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 15 at 03:26 AM • permalink

  5. Amulets to ward off righties?

    Didn’t they have those in the ‘60s? Big ugly Peace signs on garish gold-plated chains?

    (Nowadays, they’d probably use a Mercedes logo and not know the difference…)

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 15 at 03:33 AM • permalink

  6. #4 - WIth their personalities and general stench, I’m not too keen on getting close, except to spook ‘em once in awhile.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 15 at 03:38 AM • permalink

  7. Looks like the scientific method has now been relegated to the status of ideology.

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 02 15 at 03:40 AM • permalink

  8. I really do look to the day, when one of these rorting doomsday parasites have a legal case mounted against them. It is getting ridiculous beyond belief. They will do anything to prevent dissent on their ideological worship and the agenda it entails. Over the years, Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth et el, have caused no end of damage to property and business with this rot. If allowing these people to carry on with their malicious manipulating of facts etc, is democratic, then I am prepared to take a leaf out the Lefts page and suspend their democratic rights. I wonder if their poster boys from Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea would put up with this crap?

    Posted by BJM on 2007 02 15 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  9. That’s right folks, only the Protective Amulet for Climatological Orthodoxy is guaranteed keep your worldview safe from harmful dissent AND contradiction!  Crafted out of over 20 kilograms of the finest lead for superior mind-control blocking performance, simply wearing this amulet in public will keep people away, thus preserving your world view!  Buy today, and we’ll throw in a Personal Affirmation Conducting Orb absolutely free!  All this can be yours for the low price of $1,999.95 (plus shipping and handling)!  Order today, this low price will only last until the warmpocalypse!

    Posted by Vexorg on 2007 02 15 at 05:37 AM • permalink

  10. The Flat Earth Society have been debunked since the 2nd century AD, but they still exist today.  So Bob Brown and Tim Flannery and friends are contemporary eccentrics spouting dogma.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 02 15 at 05:52 AM • permalink

  11. it bespeaks a reality

    i thought leftard reality was more cookie cutter, off the shelf than bespoke

    a pret a croire kind of thing

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 02 15 at 05:52 AM • permalink

  12. Flummery’s story about waves lapping at the eighth floor of your seaside apartment block conforms to some disaster movies seen in recent years.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 02 15 at 06:22 AM • permalink

  13. Ah!  Now Vexorg is hawking products for PACO Industries? (motto:  if it’s made of cheap plastic and has a 2000% profit margin, we sell it).  This is worse than Islam.  It’s a virus, with tentacles that stretch into all facets of society.

    Just yesterday I saw Andycanuck hawking pocket fisherman/Israeli anti-ambulance mini-missile on Home Shopping Network.  He was sitting beside a comely lady talking about his wares as if he’s selling a blouse or sweater.  “Yes, it’s very practical, and it comes in 27 colors.  Our pastels are especially popular”.

    This, this has to stop.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 02 15 at 06:26 AM • permalink

  14. Vexorg, never mind Wronwright.  Do you happen to have anything to remove unwanted, repeatedly redundant redundancies?


    As for the followers of St. Allegory, The Holy Father of the Earthly Warmeth, Carbonology and General Moonbattery Tabernacle, could we expect anything less? According to the Holy Inconvenience (Book of Conspiracy, Chapter 12), Everything wrong with, on or in the world is the dark work of the RWDB’s. And so sayeth the lord. Amen.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 02 15 at 06:47 AM • permalink

  15. So these “cash bribes” woildnt be anything like environmental awards being given out like monopoly money around the world then?

    America
    Australia
    Europe

    Lots seems to be directed at brainwashing erm, influencing, the young for some reason.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 15 at 07:01 AM • permalink

  16. “I think, therefore it must be.”

    of “I don’t think, therefore I am an environmentalist”

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 02 15 at 07:35 AM • permalink

  17. #13 How did you like my sweater, wronwright? (It’s -28°C with the windchill, so I needed it.) And I’ve lost about 5 kg too.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 02 15 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  18. .17 andycanuck

    Amputated fingers, toes and other extemities doesnt really count as a traditional weightloss method. At -28 you have my condolences to anything you expose to the elements.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 15 at 09:05 AM • permalink

  19. I laughed like a loon all through this thread.  There’s absolutely nothing I can add.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 02 15 at 10:27 AM • permalink

  20. ” University Announcements
     
     
     
     
    Important announcements for the university. 
    Here at the University of Toledo (Ohio) 
    “Date: February 13, 2007
    Subject: Global warming talk slated for Feb. 15
    UT doctoral student Alexander Wrege will give a presentation on “The Climate Crisis” Thursday, Feb. 15, at 4:30 p.m. in Gillham Hall Room 5300 on Main Campus.
    Wrege trained last month with Al Gore in Nashville, Tenn., to become a volunteer to educate the public about global warming.”

    Current temperature: (9:30 am) 4 degrees F.
    (and we got about a foot of snow yesterday)
    Apparently, all that is needed to combat Goebbel Warmening is merely the invocation of Al Gore’s name.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2007 02 15 at 10:32 AM • permalink

  21. Looks like the scientific method has now been relegated to the status of ideology.

    Francis, that is about the best summary of the global goreming hysteria I’ve seen to date.  Science has been relegated to the realm of religion, complete with priests, priestesses, acolytes, and oracles.  I’m still waiting for the human sacrifices to begin.

    And I am only half joking here.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 15 at 10:45 AM • permalink

  22. TRJS

    The global warming jugganaut has the momentum rigth now because the public have not yet been confronted with the costs.

    Wait til the taxes start being levied…

    Posted by murph on 2007 02 15 at 11:12 AM • permalink

  23. The way Al is packing on weight they’ll be able to sacrifice him five times over, once the inevitable leftist in-fighting begins.

    It’s not gonna be us on the right who’ll eventually bring him down, it’ll be his purported new friends once he outlives his usefulness as a pseudo-messiah.

    Posted by PW on 2007 02 15 at 11:45 AM • permalink

  24. Bribed for $10K???  In today’s research environment $10K will last about 3 weeks.  Less if you work in a university since universities routinely skim 50% off of any research grant.  If we are going to go down this road, how much money is there, both now and in the future, in promoting global warming?

    If we are on the verge of a climate catastrophe, where are the demands for immediate research or development programs for carbon neutral energy sources (fuel cells, hydrogen, etc.) for transportation?  Demands for a program to, say, generate 100% of our electrical energy through carbon neutral sources within 20 years?  Instead what I hear are vague generalities that have at their core the demand that I turn over my life to an unelected, unassailable, and unaccountable political elite who then will reorganize the minutest detail of my existence.  Global warming is a leftist fraud, their latest tool, or weapon, in their unending quest to impose socialism and reduce all of us unlucky enough to be not part of their fascistic elite to a Borg-like existence.

    Posted by Mark Razak on 2007 02 15 at 11:48 AM • permalink

  25. Mark
    Yesterday, the Canaadian Parliament passed a bill requiring the Government to implement the Kyoto Accord tout suite. The previous Government had ratified the Accord in 2002, but was unable to present a plan for implementation. The new bill demands that such a plan be presented to Parliament within 60 days of becoming law.

    Kenney said the Liberals, after signing on to the international protocol in 1997 and ratifying it in 2002, failed to implement any changes under the “legally binding” global pact—which was opposed at the time by the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservative parties. “In the interim seven, eight years, carbon emissions went up by five to seven per cent a year—35 per cent over target while they were at the wheel,” Kenney told Mike Duffy Live. “They completely failed and now at the 11th hour they say ‘oh, we’re going to make another gimmick’—that they have no plan to execute.” 

    The Conservatives have promised to cap greenhouse gas emissions by major polluters, but not until sometime between 2020 and 2025.

    Faith! + Action!! = MIRACLES!!!!!

    Cheers

    Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 02 15 at 03:11 PM • permalink

  26. #13 Wronwright:

    You too can make a fortune in by selling PACO Industries’ finest high-margin products to the much coveted “moonbats with trust funds” demographic!  All you have to do is join the Program for Amazing Cash Opportunities(TM), sign up about 15-20 of your closest friends to do the same, and you too can be on your way to making a fortune off the gullible and paranoid!

    Posted by Vexorg on 2007 02 15 at 03:13 PM • permalink

  27. #21, TRJS I’m still waiting for the human sacrifices to begin.

    Those would be the global warming deniers.  Let the trials begin!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 02 15 at 05:25 PM • permalink

  28. Vexorg,

    I’M NOT HAWKING GOD DAMN PRODUCTS FOR GOD DAMN PACO INDUSTRIES. 

    I want this moonlighting by certain minions to stop.  I’ve got a back log of about one hundred black op helicopters and Humvees that need to be washed and waxed.  Their users are expecting them spit shined.  Well I’ve already spitted on them.  But they haven’t been shined yet.

    And I do include those minions in the VRWC hallway who are right this very minute selling timeshares to Polar Artic Condominiums Offering. 

    Stop it.  Stop right now, damn it!

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 02 15 at 06:35 PM • permalink

  29. Our RWDB Weather Control project is causing the cold and Al Gore gets the blame.  (Cue evil laughter.)  Perfect, Karl will be so pleased.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 02 15 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  30. My comment, as posted over at the GristMill site:

    “mainstream climate science”

    I thought science was advanced by skepticism, not consensus. The suggestion that Green and Hayward must agree to the “facts” of the IPCC report before debate can commence appears not so different from an earlier period where skeptics were branded as heretics. Claims of authority don’t much advance debate, either.

    (It seems to me, it is not the facts that are in doubt, but the conclusions drawn therefrom that are in question.)

    If the scientific evidence is so overwhelming, why all the pixels expended to personally denigrate Green and Hayward as motivated to mislead and obfuscate? If Green and Hayward are so wrongheaded, why engage them in debate at all? There can’t possibly be any merit to their arguments, can there?

    The Lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    “A story about a right-wing think tank funding attacks on science is credulously accepted precisely because it conforms to recent history. Most people expect it to be true.”

    So skepticism is now defined as an attack on science, and a canard repeated ad nausium is recent history. But Dan Rather would be proud: a story too good to check, i.e. fake but accurate.

    And “questioning authority” and “speaking truth to power” is strictly the province of the political left.

    Something comes to mind about stones and glass houses…

    Posted by Forbes on 2007 02 15 at 08:51 PM • permalink

  31. #18 Frollickingmole, it almost came to that tonight while waiting for the bus, in the dark, returning from work. And the bus platform is raised with no blocking buildings, so the wind was a major, frigging bitch. Luckily my bus came along in about 5 minutes, or I’d have lost another 5 kg!

    Gee, wronwright, it sounds like you need some Paramount Aircraft Cleaning Optimiser™ to take the drudgery out of your aircraft cleaning and care—polish your bird with PACO™, clean as a whistle or your money cheerfully refunded. Less restocking fee.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 02 15 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  32. By the way, have I mentioned that our Patented Automotive Clean-Off(TM) formula will take care of even your toughest RWDB cleaning problems in no time at all?  Our amazing formula is guaranteed to remove all the pesky dirt, grime and signs of existence of of even those pesky black helicopters!  All for the low, low price of only $19,999.95 per 12-ounce bottle!  Order today!

    Posted by Vexorg on 2007 02 15 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  33. A story about a right-wing think tank funding attacks on science is credulously accepted precisely because it conforms to recent history. Most people expect it to be true.

    It is a classic notion on the Left in general, and of environmentalist zealots in particular, that no one can disagree with them unless they are either uninformed or dishonest. Thomas Sowell

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 15 at 09:41 PM • permalink

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