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The Australian’s Alan Wood on latest glabal worming developments:

It has become quite fashionable of late to assert the global warming debate is over and an overwhelming scientific consensus prevails. This is simply untrue.

As acknowledged in an Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics report on climate change scenarios, also released on Monday, there are still considerable scientific uncertainties surrounding the nature and extent of future climate change.

The evil denialist also covers the recent debate over the relationship between warming and hockey sticks.

(Via Andrew Bolt, lately blogging at suitable Fisk speed)

UPDATE. Dissent in Santa Fe:

Most of the 140 scientists participating in this week’s second International Conference on Global Warming remain neutral on the politically charged issue of global climate change, according to Petr Chylek, a Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist who helped organize the event.
Bill Gray is not one of them.

The Colorado State University hurricane expert thinks global warming— the idea that fossil fuel-burning humans are causing damaging climate change— is “foolishness.”

The five-day conference ends Friday. Hey, look what’s making a comeback:

During Tuesday’s sessions, scientists made predictions about the next Ice Age ...

Posted by Tim B. on 07/19/2006 at 08:57 AM
  1. there are still considerable scientific uncertainties surrounding the   nature and extent of future climate change.

    Just think, we might still achieve our Green Goddess Goal of no climate change, ever again.

    Then we can go to work on those damn seasons, which are distributed so inequitably…. I mean, why should people in Minnesota and Germany get so much winter when elderly Jews in Florida and persons of French in Cannes get so little?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 19 at 09:27 AM • permalink

  2. You can keep warm by burning global warming literature.  We have enough to last 200 years.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 07 19 at 09:39 AM • permalink

  3. During Tuesday’s sessions, scientists made predictions about the next Ice Age ...

    Oh, that’s just great. First we’re supposed to be on the verge of growing palm trees in Antarctica - where, incidentally, I’ve expended substantial upfront money for the purchase of options on condo development rights - and now we’re back to selling snowmobiles in Miami. These scientists are pistol-whipping my entrepreneurial spirit!

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 19 at 10:19 AM • permalink

  4. Careful, Tim. By posting this stuff, you risk getting a Tim Lambert appearance with its subsequent severe bitch-slapping of your denialist attitude.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 07 19 at 10:26 AM • permalink

  5. I predict that the next Ice Age (“Ice Age III”) will disappoint artistically as well as at the box office.

    Posted by Bill Spencer on 2006 07 19 at 10:27 AM • permalink

  6. paco

    Ive got a few shares in my sahara rainforest plantation left. Ill trade you, Im sure they will prove to be of equal value in our lifetimes…

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 19 at 10:28 AM • permalink

  7. ‘Politically charged’? Who is the evil earth-hating fascist thug who wrote that?

    Everyone knows it is a indisputable scientific undebatable truth. Like the earth being flat.

    Posted by JamesP on 2006 07 19 at 10:32 AM • permalink

  8. Dang.  I put the sweaters in storage, and they start talking about the Ice Age again.  I wish they’d make up their minds!  Those attic stairs are steep!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 19 at 10:40 AM • permalink

  9. Bill Gray is not one of them

    What does Bill Gray know?  He’s only a hurricane expert.  It’s not like he’s ever been vice president.

    Posted by kcom on 2006 07 19 at 11:34 AM • permalink

  10. The lock-stock crowd eating up the hysteria over global warming without exercizing the slightest bit of skepticism is getting out of control.  Now my boss is asserting that he can sense that this summer is noticably warmer than last year.  It’s mid-July.  In Los Angeles.  It’s 85 degrees outside.  My god,do you people need more proof?

    Posted by EmilyJones on 2006 07 19 at 11:44 AM • permalink

  11. Hell, here in Virginia the average temperature has risen almost fifty degrees in just six months.

    Posted by trexkilla on 2006 07 19 at 11:51 AM • permalink

  12. Then what are you doing here?  Go make your peace with God before it’s too late!

    Posted by EmilyJones on 2006 07 19 at 11:58 AM • permalink

  13. Surely you mean Gaia, right?

    Posted by trexkilla on 2006 07 19 at 12:00 PM • permalink

  14. You can say your prayers to whomever you choose.  I only judge Christians. And sometimes Jews when they have the nerve to defend Israel.

    Posted by EmilyJones on 2006 07 19 at 12:06 PM • permalink

  15. #4 Careful, Tim. By posting this stuff, you risk getting a Tim Lambert appearance with its subsequent severe bitch-slapping of your denialist attitude.—Posted by JorgXMcKie

    Considering it’s Lambert, it’d be more like he launching a hissy slap fit on Tim.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 19 at 12:14 PM • permalink

  16. #6: Tell ya what I’m gonna do! I’ll trade you 50% of the outstanding shares of “Snow Place Like Home” Condominium Development, LLC for 50% of your your saharan rainforest shares; that way, we’re both perfectly hedged.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 19 at 12:29 PM • permalink

  17. ATTENTION TROLLS!
    Before posting, please have ready answers to the following questions.
    1). Is the hockey stick true, or is it junk?
    2) How come the oceans aren’t rising yet? I sold a beachfront house 10 years ago because of you guys.
    3) Name one uncontested peer-reviewed journal review that concludes that global warming will make the earth uninhabitable (or even less habitable) in the foreseeable future.
    4) Please name 10 species that became extinct in 2005. No big deal, we’re just curious which ones they were.
    5) Name the year at which we will meet the ‘point of no return’ and how we can tell when it happens.
    6) If Kyoto was our last chance to save the world, and Kyoto failed (thanks to the US and Australia), doesn’t that mean that we’re all screwed no matter what we do? Or was Kyoto really our second last chance, except we didn’t know it at the time?

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 19 at 12:31 PM • permalink

  18. 7)  To most rational people, you appear to be absolute idiots that have no understanding that the earth’s climate is ALWAYS changing and is likely linked to sun activity.  This idiocy is accentuated by you sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “LALALALALALA” whenever challenged. 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2006 07 19 at 01:02 PM • permalink

  19. If there is going to be another ice age, right on top of a warming age, does this mean that we might face another warming age after the ice age? 

    If we all neutralize ourselves by buying carbonated coupons from Algore’s pals, will that mix the coming warm age with the coming ice age and even it all out so we can get some peace from the incessant yammering of these “experts”?

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 07 19 at 02:22 PM • permalink

  20. #17 daddy dave: No word from the trolls, yet; they must still be doing the homework assignment you gave them.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 19 at 02:23 PM • permalink

  21. #20 paco, the last one I gave homework to assured me he’d be right back with the answer . I’m still waiting.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 19 at 02:31 PM • permalink

  22. #21: I’m afraid you’re just going to have to give him an “Incomplete”, and zero credit for this semester.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 19 at 02:47 PM • permalink

  23. 22 comments and I can’t believe nobody has noticed how Tim has completely changed the subject we should be talking about:

    The Australian’s Alan Wood on latest glabal worming developments

    Does that mean putting the words ‘enema’ and ‘tim lambert’ in the same comment is now acceptable?

    Posted by Syl on 2006 07 19 at 06:14 PM • permalink

  24. That remoands me, must give the dogs their Drontal…

    Posted by kae on 2006 07 19 at 06:44 PM • permalink

  25. You forgot a big one daddy dave: “If mankind is causing the Earth’s climate to warm, why are the climates on Mars and Jupiter also warming?”

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 07 19 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  26. daddy dave:  IT help desk.

    How do you link to a former thread and get it to land at exactly the right post # ?  ie Whats the key to that number at the end of the link?

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 19 at 07:02 PM • permalink

  27. SCD: Right-click on the permalink next to the comment in question, and copy that link.

    Posted by PW on 2006 07 19 at 07:44 PM • permalink

  28. Ah!  Ta.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 19 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  29. Just getting ready for styrofoam to re-appear so I can stuff his idiotic former statements right back up his arse.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 19 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  30. Rob Crawford—because of all the heat Tim Lambert says we’re giving back to the universe, why else?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 19 at 08:54 PM • permalink

  31. If there is going to be another ice age, right on top of a warming age, does this mean that we might face another warming age after the ice age? 

    Saltydog—we’re trying something new this time: Hot Ice!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 19 at 08:55 PM • permalink

  32. I predict that the most dangerous job on earth will be the “on location” weather reporter. How will they dress?

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 07 19 at 09:27 PM • permalink

  33. wow, I never thought of that. I look forward to documentaries about how global warming is going to endanger future generations of weather reporters.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 20 at 12:19 AM • permalink

  34. Looks like no trolls today, SCD.
    *sigh* We wait, and we wait, but they’re nowhere to be seen. It’s my fault isn’t it? I expected too much.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 20 at 10:35 AM • permalink

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