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Excellent article—again. But you are waaaay to rational, Tim. There’s a reason the virotards have gone from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change.” Global warming is too obviously refuted, but climate change! Well, the weather changes every day and thus can be milked for every penny (if you’ll pardon the construction). Nice how that works.
P.S. Yes, I know I’m stating the obvious. I speak, not to the regulars, but to the lurkers, like M.K., who says right out that she gets her news here. You know how you have to spell everything out if they are to understand. Alas, even then there is no guarantee.
The Australian reports today that “The began on the NSW central coast and rolled along the eastern seaboard, pummelling the beaches along the way - the stormy swells, gale-force winds and heavy rainfall exacting their toll on the shoreline.”
Further on, “The National Climate Centre’s chief climate analyst, David Jones, reckons it is impossible to say whether the drought has broken because the rule book for “normal” weather has been thrown out the window…..it certainly is a bit of a sense of a return to, if not average conditions, then more like average conditions,” Mr Jones said. “The problem with things like drought these days is that we have got climate change now and there is no such thing as normal any more. We simply don’t have a benign sort of average that we return to.”
But the BOM Australian Climate Extremes web site lists many extreme events including the winter storms of June 1967:
“Occasionally the relative quiet of the Australian subtropics in winter is disturbed by an east coast low, with its gales and flood rains. One particularly severe storm in late June 1950 generated hurricane force winds and 15-metre waves off the New South Wales coast; and the heavily-flooded Clarence River carved out a new path to the sea. In the remarkable month of June 1967, three such storms battered the coastlines of southern Queensland and northern NSW, generating major flooding and extensive erosion of Gold Coast beaches. Six lives were lost.”I have just returned from a 3 week trip to England. It rained 22 out of 23 days and the thermometer failed to reach 20C but succeeded in reaching 8C.
If i meet anyone who tells me it’s due to GW, i will not be responsible for my actions.
Posted by pommygranate on 2007 07 13 at 05:53 PM • permalinkLAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950.
Well, I’ve just come back from a few days in central Queensland and I can tell you that forget about June, July is turning out quite chilly too. It was far cooler that I expected at Mackay and inland from there.
Oh but I forgot, Global Warming or Climate Change is a strange mysterious thing, whoops I mean an attention seeking goon.
#15
The National Climate Centre’s chief climate analyst, David Jones, reckons it is impossible to say whether the drought has broken because the rule book for “normal” weather has been thrown out the window…..
Oh, I see. Climate change is really an invention to cover the arses of the weather forecasters. Makes sense.
#22 You can include FNQ in that too. Ravenshoe recorded -7deg Celsius one morning. Atherton Tableland is an escape area from Cairns coastal heat but that is just plain brass monkey weather.
The nights in Port Douglas were cold enough for me to chase around for an electric heater but there were none available anywhere until yesterday. All major retaillers have been sold out for 2 weeks & have even been receiving inquiries from Townsville.
At this rate, next winter I plan to start looking for good ski equipment. The Kuranda chairlift will come in handy.
Climate change exists for two reasons:
1. It is a handy catch-all for winning government funding for scientists and other researchers. Everyone is on the gravy train, even a pediatrician in Sydney who has got a grant to study the effects of warmer nights on the sleeping habits of children. It is the sort of study best done in Mauritius or Cancun, I understand.
2. It is the latest tool of the left to destroy capitalism and create a workers’ paradise like North Korea and the old Soviet Union.
Slightly off topic.
Detective Paco, have you thought about Paco Enterprises going public sir? If so, what do you think the initial share offer would be.
I am really ready for a “get rich quick” scheme as I intend to retire soon. I would offer my services as the first CEO but I,m an engineer and have trouble looking after my own debit card. I will look forward to your prospectus. Thankyou.#22 Wand
Yep, it has been rather cold in Central and North Queensland, my dad in Townsville reckons that it’s what it was like when he was a kid, and now sits there with two heaters going, all the time.
It was 20 degrees Celsius, I walked into the living room, wearing a tshirt and shorts and he just stared at me and said “are you f*cking mad? It’s a bloody ice age out there!”#33 Spag_Oz
Be an interesting ski down over the frozen forest canopy from the top of the chair lift. :)
Atherton is bloody cold anyways, my little sister was at a boarding school in Herberton, and I can tell you, the couple of nights in winter that a 16 year old 185600 and a couple of his mates went up there to meet some of the girls who snuck out of that school, it was bloody freezing.
And dangerous. The nuns used to take in stray dogs, and they were feral as hell.
The dogs, not the nuns, of course, but it was penguin weather. :)From TGGWS Debate thread:
Re Tone’s chief panelist, David Karoly:
Top meteorologist keen to debate climate change link to drought14 May 2003
SYDNEY: Professor David Karoly, one of the authors of a WWF-Australia scientific report linking the severity of the recent drought to human-induced global warming, has challenged NSW Farmers to debate the issue at a public forum next month.
http://www.wwf.org.au/news/n17/
More arrogant than Flannery.
The guy’s got a glass jaw, couldn’t take criticism from the head of the NSW Farmers’ Federation, FFS!C/- a post by a brave soul at the ABC on-line Science Forum (a Lefty scientist circle jerk, if ever there was).
Karoly is currently banging on trying to discredit sun spot activity in GW with Robyn (100m) Williams on ABC Radio’s Science Show.
100m Williams is also going all out for the ‘climate sceptics’:
Study of climate sceptics
In frustration, Ian Enting has studied the views of so-called climate sceptics. Their views vary markedly. Their practice is to select one piece of evidence that stands alone or is questionable in some way and use that to discredit the studies that do fit.
He is acting as a reviewer for the latest section of the next IPCC report.
His current work is developing the next generation of climate model, in particular the role of carbon in the land surface. In addition, he’s looking at what it would actually take to stabilise concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide.
The Brazilian proposal is an idea that every nation’s target in reducing emissions should be in proportion to how much they are to blame for the warming we’ve had.
The logical end-game for the AGWers is now out of the bag,
“Each new UK birth, through the inevitable resource consumption and pollution that UK affluence generates, is responsible for about 160 times as much climate-related environmental damage as a new birth in Ethiopia.”
Professor John Guillebaud of the Optimal Population Trust calling on Gordon Brown to ‘limit’ families to
two childrenPosted by pommygranate on 2007 07 13 at 10:48 PM • permalinkThe Brazilian proposal is an idea that every nation’s target in reducing emissions should be in proportion to how much they are to blame for the warming we’ve had.
Uh-oh. You know what that means. We’ll have to close up shop.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 13 at 10:54 PM • permalinkHey, t’weren’t me. I didn’t even use ital—I checked.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 07 13 at 11:08 PM • permalinkDoes that mean that the Brazilians and the Soviets and everyone else in the world who benefited from the abundant grain and other food products produced very efficiently in the US at very reasonable prices are going to give all those products back? That grain actually saved the Soviet people from privation and hardship. What social value does that have?
Are the people in the rest of the world going to stop using the cars, electronics, medical devices, drugs (including life-saving antiobitics) and other products invented and developed in the United States through our industrial resources? Are they going to stop freeloading off of the GPS system, developments produced via the space program, the epidemiological efforts of the Centers for Disease Control, etc?
Exactly how far back do they want to go in renouncing products created and produced in the United States that have been of great benefit to the world? Because we produced those products due to a highly developed, efficient, and productive industrial base. Or do they want to drop their life expectancies back to 45 years and recover the happiness they experienced in the good ol’ days?
Just askin’.
#58
Brazil and Ethiopa: world’s ‘best practise’? ... Let the Left live in mud huts and burn dung.
[Still can’t find the 90’s BBC? doco that refuted that we aren’t advancing quality-of-life in the West, dang!].What’s Enting gonna run his models on - an abacus - or draw on the wall with his own shite?
Ahhh ... cut the (prollie) population, reducing emissions, for a more comfy climate for Amish mathemagicians.
Global warming is a crock and a con.
Pictures like these, however, will undoubtedly create hot spots all over the globe.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 12:18 AM • permalink#13 SSG Pooh
I’m stuck here in New Jersey, drinking beer and cleaning the cat box.
Don’t drink so much that you get confused. That reminds me of when I was in China. Over there, most toilets I used had a little bin for used toilet paper. I never made a mistake in the order when drunk, but came very close a few times.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 14 at 12:21 AM • permalinkblue with cold and barely able to direct stumps on keyboard-OT seems to have passed under radar this morning.
Pakistani ‘student’?? arrived on flight from Malaysia with symptom of Poliomyelitis- How come a Student cam afford to travel to and fro from Pakistan -anyone question biowarfare,with possibility he was sent to deliberately infect others. Hope they are paying attention. These times seems we have to check every one from that region. Noticed one of the Glasgow Drs wife a Lab Technicion- another concern!
Any clues as to the maniac who when about demolishing mobile network towers in armoured tank - what religion and nationality- we need to know.
The first thing ‘certain’ people would do is knock out communications.-God we live in interesting times!Better obsessed than depressed, Kae! But really, if you think
I’ve got a one track mindthis is an obsession, you probably don’t spend enough time around computer folk. There was one guy a couple of years ago who could never shut up about Linux. Linux is fabulous, Linux is clearly superior to Windows, the sun shines out of the Linux posterior… and he wasn’t even a technician. He was a bloody courier, FFS!Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 12:46 AM • permalinkEgg the ‘challenge to a debate” ploy just gets so old. Public debates only ever prove one thing - who is the better debater. Results of debates mean nothing with respect to who has the stronger case. The left love debates because they seem to thrive on witty rejoinders and glib metaphors. Trouble is they think these constitute serious arguments.
Are you playing moody Chris Isaak or happy Chris Isaak, Pog? It might affect the flavour of the biscuits.
No, Kae, of course it’s not an unhealthy obsession.
My ability to recite long passages from Derek and Clive albums, on the other hand, might be indicative.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 01:07 AM • permalinkWell, at least you’ll have an appetite when the biscuits come out of the oven.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 01:37 AM • permalink#70 Francis H
Agreed, plenty of examples at the ABC Science Forum link (urs truly contributed in the early days) - the more articulate is not necessarily right, and it seems rare for bureaucratised academics to think for themselves; such hubris is evident in Karoly and Enting.
The farmers’ livelihood is much more wedded to climate than this lil’ egomaniac.
#75 Egg (ignoring Ash’s rumbling tummy) I recall an acquaintance of mine years ago. He would never actually argue with you but would just always warn you not to debate him cause he was such a good debater. So his typical argument would run “Black is white. Now don’t get into an argument with me on this cos i’m such a good debater”.
It did seem to work. I wouldn’t argue with him becasue it was a palpable waste of time. No skin of my nose. He seemed to equate the ability to win a debate with being right. A common misconception. It seems to be a corollary of the left’s obsession with intelligence (or at least what they define as intelligence).
Oh, don’t worry kae, Ash will just wolf that duck down. A solid layer of vegemite underneath a heavy coat of chocolate…uhhh, pardon me…
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 03:03 AM • permalinkChili sauce… that does it…
(violent retching)
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 14 at 03:04 AM • permalinkDuck Dogers in the Twenty Fourth and a Half Centureeeeeee!!!!
Youtube Global Warming: An Unsettled Science
Explains some interesting terminology used by climate modellers, such as SAT (Surface Air Temperature):
Q. If SATs cannot be measured, how are SAT maps created?
A. This can only be done with the help of compuetr models ...Hehe, can’t beat meaningless derivations, even we humble technologists use ‘em ...
We need to remember these are meterologists - despite multimmillion dollar budgets and potent computer systems they cannot predict the weather more than three days ahead. The idea that they can tell us the earth will heat up by a degree or two over the next hundred years is ridiculous and irrelevant.
FYI made it onto the TGGWS bashing forum:
Author egg
Date/Time 13 Jul 2007 3:55:49pm
Subject Re: Why did Michael Duffy look uneasy?Why wouldn’t Duffy look uncomfortable, being one of the extremely rare dissenting ABC voices in this meeja witchhunt?
See how long it lasts.
#46
Robyn (100m) Williams mentioned to David Karoly that he’d been talking with (Oz) Marine Geologist Bob Carter on his recent findings.Prolly:
The myth of dangerous human-caused climate change.
CARTER, R.M.
2007 Australasian Institute of Mining & Metallurgy, New Leaders Conference, Brisbane, May 2-3 2007, Conference Proceedings p. 61-74Available from Bob’s website [PDF]
Thanks for that link, egg_. I look forward to reading that publication and the others by Bob Carter on the site.
Is is just me, or do others have the perception that the James Cook University is the only academic institution in Australia that is not run by moonbats? Every publication by JCU staff that I have read seems to be awash with sanity.Oh no!
Not the italics jar. . . . AGAIN.Farewell, Mac users.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 07 14 at 07:01 AM • permalinkOur ABC hackpiece: Don’t be swindled
[C/- ABC News Opinion page]
The Great Global Warming Swindle ‘documentary’ purports to prove ...
#129
Oops
Didn’t read the caption on the photo.
Didn’t bigger it and see the characters on the bus.
Didn’t twig that they are driving on the wrong side of the road.
Oh dear.
Hey, with my deductive/investigative skills I could get a job as a journalist with any one of many MSM groups mentioned here, huh?
The sky’s the limit!For Kae and other somewhat interested readers, once a comment is posted with italics, and the poster does not close the “italics” tag, all Mac users who use OSX 10.2 or higher and Safari browser, see the remainder of the thread totally italicised, and all the paragraph numbering returns to #1.
The last readable comment for Mac users was #51. Thereafter, all posts are #1, and everything is italicised.
The only solutions are apparently to either throw away $3K+ worth of Mac computer, stop reading TB, or change browsers to the truly execrable Internet Explorer, *gag, spit* none of which is going to happen at Casa Pedro.
If the tipped over italics jar kills the thread for me, them’s the breaks.
It’s not like I paid a real lot to read it.Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 07 15 at 01:50 AM • permalink#134 Pedro
The only solutions are apparently to either throw away $3K+ worth of Mac computer, stop reading TB, or change browsers to the truly execrable Internet Explorer, *gag, spit* none of which is going to happen at Casa Pedro.
If the tipped over italics jar kills the thread for me, them’s the breaks.
It’s not like I paid a real lot to read it.Stop Press! You do have a couple of options other then M$IE. You could use the latest Netscape Navigator 9 which is Mozilla based and IMO is much better than Firefox which you could also use. As you will see, both these browsers are available under Mac OSX.
And while perhaps not as convenient as Safari, you would avoid that dreaded M$IE. I have all three browsers on my system - and my order of use is Navigator / Firefox / IE.
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“A few hot days are all they ever need to get the global warming bandwagon rolling; evidently it’s solar powered.”
You made a mistake there Tim - the sun, of course, has NOTHING to do with increases in global temperature.