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Terrorist Christians—well, former Christians; most likely Presbyterians—in Southeast Asia:
A network of homegrown converts to radical Islam has emerged as a major terrorist threat in Southeast Asia, teaming up with higher-profile al-Qa’ida offshoots Jemaah Islamiah and Abu Sayyaf to plot attacks on Western and local targets.
Manila’s top anti-terrorism official has told The Australian that the group of former Christians known as Rajah Solaiman is highly educated and well-financed and lacked the profile of traditional Islamist terrorist groups, making it easier to evade detection.
Also in today’s Australian, an update on Minnesota’s alcohol-banning jicabbies:
The ban has created chaos at Minneapolis-St Paul international airport, where about three-quarters of the 900 taxi drivers are Somali and mostly Muslim.
Airport officials have begun working with taxi drivers to install colour-coded lights on taxi roofs to indicate which are alcohol friendly and which are not.
Uh-oh. You know what happens to roof-lit vehicles driven by the Faithful. Incoming!
UPDATE. The Australian’s editorial:
What is happening at the airport in Minneapolis-St. Paul is just as much of an indictment of multiculturalism as other incidences of self-censorship and self-flagellation that occur on a near-daily basis among Westerners seeking to avoid or atone for offending the most prudish or outlandish of Islamic sensibilities. And it shows what can happen when a culture allows immigrants to behave as conquerors, instead of politely but firmly suggesting that newcomers who wish to impose their theocratic ways on a secular community try their luck elsewhere. One wonders what Minneapolis’s cabbies will demand next. The right not to drive passengers home from the supermarket if they are carrying bacon? That couples present a marriage licence before holding hands in the back seat? (In that case, perhaps Margaret Whitlam could get a retirement job driving taxis in the Twin Cities.)
UPDATE II. Florida Cracker:
The airport authorities are working on a system of color-coding the lights on the cabs to make it easier to direct passengers to the appropriate vehicles. They haven’t decided on the colors, but I think they should keep yellow in reserve as it would be a good choice for designating which cabbies will carry Jews.
UPDATE III. Piglito:
If someone wants to lose business over a religious principle, let them, is my laissez-faire response. Market conditions will certainly sort this out. Mid-westerners will not support such businesses, and others will come along.
UPDATE IV. Wheat and Weeds:
What about a Catholic driver refusing to drive someone to an abortion clinic?
Oh, I’d be happy to know which taxis not to support. I hope their cabs just sit there and depreciate, leaving their owners without two-bits to their name. They don’t like it in the USA?
They are free to go right on back to Somalia, where they’ll be happy to hear that a strict Sharia law is now in place. They won’t have to worry about being offended, just tortured and murdered by the vice cops for any imagined slight.
I really like the Australian editorial writers. Can’t wait for the book deal!
Posted by carpefraise on 2006 10 02 at 05:11 AM • permalinkSo U.S soldiers are dying in Muslim shithole countries, while this scum of the earth dictates what ordinary citizens can and cannot do in their own country. The more these Islamorons are allowed to get away with this beligernt behaviour the more society is being stretched, if the word Pogrom finds it’s way into the news I will not be surprised.
Great editorial in the Australian.
Yeah, Howzat, we can hope…..Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 10 02 at 05:18 AM • permalinkMaybe we should simply forbid the immigration of conservative Muslims. On the basis it offends our religious sensitivities (of being blown up).
Posted by wronwright on 2006 10 02 at 05:19 AM • permalinkAll I want to know is: how long has wronwright been writing Australian editorials?
Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 2006 10 02 at 05:23 AM • permalinkWell, well, well, The Australian shows sense. Good.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 02 at 05:38 AM • permalinkUnfortunately, when push comes to shove, like when a “take back the beach” rally at Cronulla was paid back with a muslim rampage of car trashing, stabbings, beatings and other totally unnacceptable behaviour (one upmanship in the thuggee stakes)our authorities were unable to make any significant numbers of arrests on the two worst nights or later.
We already have a problem, and nobody is doing anything much about it except to continue to neuter the police services and make sure they cannot act tough with anybody.“Airport officials have begun working with taxi drivers to install colour-coded lights on taxi roofs to indicate which are alcohol friendly and which are not.”
This is actually the the perfect solution to the problem. With no takers, the jicabbies will go broke as a result of their own prejudice and stupidity.
o/t Sorry if it has been mentioned several times already but a brother of Sergoline Royale,Socialist French Political contender,has said another brother of theirs planted the mines which sunk the Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior 1 in Auckland Harbour.He was a member of the French Secret Service at the time…Gerard was the other brother’s name.
would-be passengers who encounter this discrimination should sue the airport owners/operators and taxi licencing authorities who have acquiesced to - indeed facilitated - this illegality. a few million bucks in exemplary damages will soon result in these cabs out of the airport and off the road. its disgraceful, cowardly and a betrayal of those fighting the war against islamofacism to let this go on.
#7. ...while this scum of the earth dictates what ordinary citizens can and cannot do in their own country.
A bunch of taxi drivers hold America to ransom!? If only Al Capone had thought of that.
#13. ...these disgusting dictatorial swine require therapy with a base ball bat.
Incitement to murder, nice. I wonder if there is a law agaisnt that..?
#14. ...like when a “take back the beach” rally at Cronulla was paid back with a muslim rampage of car trashing, stabbings, beatings and other totally unnacceptable behaviour (one upmanship in the thuggee stakes)
What you reap is what you sow, quite un-Australian to dish it out but not be able to take it.
oooh look a cute widdle twoll come back again…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 02 at 08:09 AM • permalinkLike a bear to a honey-pot old Kalli, our tipsy Canberra based, American/Brit/Australian hater?
Thought you might drive by.
Like I said in another thread: Although you likely think yourself so very clever coming here to stir up the neo-cons, we’ve seen your quality of offerings time and time again from your fellow-travellers. Every non sequiter, every moral equivalent, every disparaging throw-away about America and Australia - we know ‘em off by heart.
We also know that we can take the piss out of you mercillessly, but you just won’t get it, which takes the fun away a bit.
So try something ... you know… original. Don’t type, just think first, then show us that you aren’t just another cretinous recycler of the bile that gurgles out of the anus of the likes of Bob Brown, Keyser Trad and co.
Are you up to it? An original line of argument?
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 10 02 at 08:23 AM • permalink#17
This is actually the the perfect solution to the problem. With no takers, the jicabbies will go broke as a result of their own prejudice and stupidity.
And there will be no taxis to catch. In almost every country I’ve travelled to, Muslims are the taxi drivers, cleaners, shopping trolley attendants and so on. This can only be from a culture that doesn’t impress on its youth the benefits of education and achievement, instead of victimhood and complaint.
I look at Jews and Asians who arrived in Australia penniless and powerless. They were about the biggest “victims” you could imagine but are now prominent business-people, doctors and academics. Their kids go to schools and universities as their parents know this is the key to a good life.
Then I look at unbelievable statistics for illiteracy and unemployment in the Arab world and second or third-generation permanent unemployment in Lakemba and know I’m not being racist. It’s a real problem and surely nothing to do with “victimhood” or “disadvantage”. Just desire and motivation.
Kali,
can you tell me what it feels like to be so sensitive, so morally superior to the rest of us. You see personally I usually find moral superiority to be an unpleasant feeling. I don’t like looking at other’s moral failures. It makes me queasy. You see if I’m morally superior to someone else it will be because they have failed not because I’m especially wonderful or virtuous.To you morality appears to be a way of counting coup and of self congratulation. Why else would you be trying to take hyperbole literally? Most of the rest of the commenters know narcissism when they see it.
Posted by Lloyd Flack on 2006 10 02 at 08:30 AM • permalinkSuggestion for Kalli on his original contribution:
“The role of zulu spears in the war between right and left in cyberspace.”
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 10 02 at 08:35 AM • permalinkNot to worry. Necessity is the mother of invention, and Big Mama has just given birth to the Premier Alternative Conveyance Organization. For a fraction of the cost of a taxi, hard-drinking rickshaw pullers will take you anywhere in the Twin Cities you want to go. It may take a while to get where you’re going, but you will be spared the moralizing prattle of koran-thumping teetotalers, and a complementary bottle of brandy will help keep the chill off.
Like any other group,individual muslim people can be very happy members of our society which is enjoyable for all of us.
Saw two muslim young ladies in the car behind,one driving the car,laughing and having a great chat.
Saw a muslim lady looking a little apprehensive,alone while her husband was buying something.We smiled at her in a friendly,neighbourly way and were smiled back at immediately.Very good signs in an INDIVIDUAL way and nice to see.“The role of zulu spears in the war between right and left in cyberspace.”
I think it goes something like this.
Left, “My a man is running towards me shouting aggressively, will he be my friend?”
Right, “Aaaargh, Im going to ram this spear into your guts and watch you choke on your own blood”
Left, “Now thats uncalled for, would you like to discuss our diffrences?”
Right, “We did that, multiple times, but you JUST KEEP REPEATING THE SAME CRAP”
Left, “Thats because I feel Im right, Havent you seen loose change?”
Right, “aaargh”
stab, stab, stab.
The end.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 02 at 08:49 AM • permalinkHmmm..frollicking I was sorta thinking Kalli, in his obvious wisdom, might perceive a certain zulu spear in the hands of a certain Administratrix and, um,... you know…
On the other hand, following on from his snide comments about the Brits and the IRA he may wish to discourse on the number of Chechnyans the Russians had killed, thus justifying the pre meditated murder of a hundred or so school kids by Chechnyan muslims. I’m sure Kalli will show how it was all the Russians fault that the kids got shot in the back as they ran away.
Sorry for the O/T but sods like Kalli from Kanberra need to have their noses shoved in it
from time to timeall the time.Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 10 02 at 09:05 AM • permalinkHey Kalli,
before you join in another discussion, perhaps we could have an admission from you that you were wrong about the Danish cartoons. You thought that there was a cartoon depicting Mohommad in a sexual act, but there was no such cartoon. (see recent posts by Tim). Let’s resolve that one before moving on to new topics.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 10 02 at 09:13 AM • permalinkMinnesota taxi patrons - support your Twin Cities wine merchant.
Posted by JDFlanagan on 2006 10 02 at 09:42 AM • permalink#21 Kalli re: the Cronulla riots and the revenge attacks.
“What you reap is what you sow, quite un-Australian to dish it out but not
be able to take it.”Kalli, you are a moron.
- The Cronulla rioters were disorganized.
- The violence was unplanned, and a festival bbq atmosphere had prevailed for hours before-hand.
- The participants were unarmed.
- The victims mainly suffered humiliation. I don’t support this, but none of them suffered serious or life-threatening injuries. Having beer splashed on you and being abused might be scary, but it’s not going to land you in the morgue.Now compare that to the revenge attacks:
- weapons involved included numchuckas, Glock pistols, baseball bats, and knifes.
- the violence was orchestrated and people were injured in attacks across dozens of suburbs, not just Cronulla.
- scores of cars were destroyed.
- a middle-aged woman in Maroubra was smashed unconcscious with a baseball bat while putting her Otto bin out.
- a guy in Caringbah was stabbed defending some women who were were attacked at the golf course. He almost died of his injuries.
- two churches were attacked in Auburn (one destroyed.)
- a catholic primary school had twenty bullets fired into its grounds while they were holding a christmas carolling night. (again, in Auburn).
- a female police officer near Lakemba Mosque had her arm broken.
- journalists had pistols waved in their faces.
- pedestrians were asked “if they were Aussie” and assaulted, in suburbs that were 40 minutes drive from both Cronulla and the muslim districts of south-west Sydney. (My gf at the time is a nurse at Westmead and personally treated one of the bashing victim from Castle Hill. He was unconscious for ten hours, and his face was literally “black” from the bruising.Oh, and lets compare the police investigation afterwards:
- the Aussie flagellated themselves with guilt.
- On the other hand, the Lebanese Muslim community blamed everyone but themselves.
- Many of the Aussies who spoke to the cameras (whilst obviously intoxiated) publicly apologized for their more extreme statements and expressed shame.
- On the other hand, the Lebanese Muslim community, at least judging by their appearance on “4 Corners” a few months later, continued to blame everyone but themselves, and expressed no shame.
- more than 20 Aussies captured on TV footage voluntarily handed themselves in to police. In one case, a father took his teenage son to the police station because he felt he needed to own up to his bad behaviour.
- On the other hand, the Lebanese community totally closed ranks. None of them handed themselves in. No Lebanese fathers thought their sons needed to own up to anything.The infamous convoy that went from the Lakemba mosque to Miranda, and was unmolested by the police or highway patrol, drove right past me on King George’s Road at ~10:30pm on the first night of revenge attacks, lights flashing, horns blaring, and running every single red light on the way.
One of these dickheads swerved into the median area while running a red. I almost beeped back and gave him the finger. When I read of how many weapons were in that convoy, I’m glad I didn’t!
Do you live in Sydney, Kalli?
Do you have any connection to either Cronulla, Bankstown, or Auburn districts, Kalli?
Do you have the faintest clue about the simmering tensions and unresolved social problems that exist here?
Do you have any idea of how long the police have ignored these tensions in the name of political-correctness?
Just spare us your ignorant bullshit, Kalli.So what happens when travellers start to preferentially pick the jihad-free cabs? My bet: accusations of racism within milliseconds.
Posted by Ernst Blofeld on 2006 10 02 at 11:37 AM • permalinkSince they built light-rail from the airport to downtown Minneapolis, I have never taken a cab. In addition to not making moral/religious judgments on what you have in your suitcase, the light-rail trains don’t refuse to make eye contact, speak in surly grunts, act like they’ve never heard of major intersections or landmarks, drive 30 miles an hour down the middle of two lanes (or alternately, drive 60 mph during snowstorms), or demand exact change after you arrive at your destination.
If Muslims think alcohol is sinful, then they shouldn’t drink. Making such a huge stink over a flight attendant having a bottle of wine in her luggage is outrageous. It’s not only an example of them attempting to impose their values on the larger community. It’s also an example of them trying every day, in some little way, to cause friction and disquiet. I’m sick to death of them.
And it’s not just in the racist US where cabbies are discriminated against by the Man (and the countries for other similar anecdotes linked in the other Kalli thread) but jolly old England too:
http://tinyurl.com/oojzqPosted by andycanuck on 2006 10 02 at 12:37 PM • permalinkJust leave a rasher of bacon behind in any cab driven by a muslim. Tucked behind the seat.
Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 10 02 at 01:56 PM • permalinkPersonally, I think the Minnesota officials ought to say, “Look, Muslim cabbies, you are out of your fucking minds to do this. But if you want to self-destruct financially, no problem, here are your lights and your dispensation. Just don’t complain when people walk by you to a cabbie that doesn’t openly piss on the customer, and you sit at the airport for hours waiting for a customer that meets your standards.”
Not that would happen, ‘cuz bongoman, Kallia, and other like minded idiots, would be up in arms about this dispensation of tough love.
Anyway, should I ever fly to Minneapolis, I’ll either take the light rail in (thanks, ak!), grab a shuttle, or walk down the cabbie line saying, “Sorry, I have booze in my luggage! Gotta go with someone who isn’t narrow minded and racist. Ta ta!”
Cretins.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 02 at 02:13 PM • permalinkAlternatively, one might lie about not having booze, take a “special” cab, and then leave an open bottle of cheap wine on the floor so that it spills when the idiot peels for his next fare.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 02 at 02:15 PM • permalinkI’d like to know where these people would be classified on the moderate-extreme scale. I suspect, by weight of numbers, they would by definition have to be classified as on the moderate side of the Islam rankings.
Anyway, I’m starting my own cab company in Mogadishu. I’m basing the fleet on this design.
52.
Plus you had a feed waiting for you at the end of the battle, brilliant.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 02 at 08:15 PM • permalink#26. Kali,
can you tell me what it feels like to be so sensitive, so morally superior to the rest of us. You see personally I usually find moral superiority to be an unpleasant feeling.Oh, it feels good thanks, you should try it if you can.
#31. I’m sure Kalli will show how it was all the Russians fault that the kids got shot in the back as they ran away.
Grenades ‘caused Beslan tragedy’Okay, here you go…
A Russian investigator has said grenades fired by surrounding Russian forces could have triggered the Beslan school bloodbath in September 2004.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5294548.stm
#32. You thought that there was a cartoon depicting Mohommad in a sexual act, but there was no such cartoon.
That wasn’t my point. My point was that the major problem seen with Islam today is terrorism. The major problem today (or one of many perhaps) associated with Christianity today ( in particular the Catholic Church) is the child abuse scandal. So, I was wondering if a cartoon depicting Jesus molesting an altar boy (for example) would be published by those same papers that published the Mohammed cartoons. I don’t think they would, so i wonder about their motives for the Mohammed cartoons.
Kalli,
So, I was wondering if a cartoon depicting Jesus molesting an altar boy (for example) would be published by those same papers that published the Mohammed cartoons. I don’t think they would, so i wonder about their motives for the Mohammed cartoons.
They do publish blasphemous, insulting cartoons about Jews, Israel, and Christians, all the time. The original ‘cartoons’ were published in an Arabic Egyptian newspaper, Al Fadr in October 2005, months prior to them being published in the Danish newspaper, Jylliands Posten. See The Sandmonkey. And there were no riots or murders then.
So Kali you admit to being a self-righteous narcissist but see nothing wrong with being that.
You seem to be taking the position that if you can sympathize with the truly loathsome then you must be truly virtuous. It doesn’t. It just makes you a poser, a wanker, a prat, a jerk and any number of similar terms.
Posted by Lloyd Flack on 2006 10 03 at 08:14 AM • permalink
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