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CIVILIAN AREAS USED

The UN reports:

Speaking to the press in Cyprus over the weekend, Egeland said it is wrong, according to international law, to have disproportionate attack against civilian populations, as is now happening in Lebanon. But it is also wrong and condemnable, he added, to use civilian areas to

... to ...to ... to what? The UN statement simply ends without saying, as though any subsequent words have been, I don’t know, kidnapped or something.

(Via Dr Sam)

Posted by Tim B. on 07/25/2006 at 05:14 AM
  1. His UN minders must have pointed out he was about to inadvertently condemn terrorists.

    Koffi couldn’t have that…

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2006 07 25 at 05:23 AM • permalink

  2. (wronwright sees a virgin post by Tim, with nary a comment.  And yet he senses a presence, by someone both beguilding and menacing.  wronwright slowly pulls his hands away from the keyboard, resisting the tempation of claiming the first comment, careful not to provoke the strike of the hidden she adder)

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 25 at 05:28 AM • permalink

  3. It’s unmentionable Tim.

    And since both parties are doing wrong things, they cancel out, so both parties are exactly the same.  Neither one better than the other.

    It’s the same as if a Muslim broke down my door and I speared him with my Zulu spear damn, well, um, smashed him with my Norman shield, no, don’t have that anymore thanks to Andrea, ok, hit him with my wife’s dust mop.  We both committed acts of violence, so we’re exactly equal.  In accordance with the UN outlook on things of this nature, I should apologize to the Muslim for hitting him with the dust mop.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 25 at 05:36 AM • permalink

  4. The UN is quite right. Israel should be far more sporting and take care to cause damage of a similar magnitude to that inflicted by its Iranian backed enemy. Or - even better - Israel should wait until Hezbollah has weaponry with a destructive power similar to Israel’s arms. Now that would ensure proportionality. After all, neutralising the threat posed by the unleashing of over 10000 Hezbollah rockets should hardly be top of Israel’s agenda.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 25 at 05:51 AM • permalink

  5. “To use civilian areas to…”. It’s all about suspense, Tim. Always leave ‘em wanting more.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2006 07 25 at 05:52 AM • permalink

  6. #5 - interesting point. Perhaps a former Home and Away scriptwriter landed a job taking minutes at UN briefings?

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 25 at 05:57 AM • permalink

  7. James Waterton, did you see the bit that says “according to international law”?

    Posted by gson on 2006 07 25 at 06:25 AM • permalink

  8. Talk about a split infinitive!

    Posted by David McBryde on 2006 07 25 at 06:25 AM • permalink

  9. Perhaps there is a special algorithm in the program at the UN’s site that automatically erases any negative mention of the Islamic poor miserable poverty-stricken humiliated victims of multiple oppressions and occupations, and/or their supporters.  The UN is an entity devoted to diplomacy, after all; mustn’t allow any embarrassment to attach for inadvertant little faux pas, such as sounding like you are for Israel in any way, shape or form.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 07 25 at 06:31 AM • permalink

  10. I thought he said “To use civilian areas too.”

    Of course, he could have meant two or tu.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 25 at 06:58 AM • permalink

  11. ....to be continued..
    or maybe it’s been left open for later.

    Posted by crash on 2006 07 25 at 07:07 AM • permalink

  12. O/T Lebanon - Channel 7 News Sydney had video of Condoleezza Rice at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, July 24 with this comment in the voice over…

    “curiously the sunglasses never left her head”

    Curiously it never entered my head that they would mention this in a news bulletin.

    Posted by Softly on 2006 07 25 at 07:19 AM • permalink

  13. The UN has run out of verbs due to evil ChimpyMcHitler’s denial of proper funding.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 25 at 07:29 AM • permalink

  14. #3

    Wron, after provoking the Great Powers of teh VRWC like you did, you are very lucky that Andrea left you with anything at all including your virginity. Erm, including your life. Yes, that’s it, your life.

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2006 07 25 at 07:48 AM • permalink

  15. Engeland is poor excuse for a lawyer because he

    Posted by hooligan on 2006 07 25 at 07:52 AM • permalink

  16. Its qiute simple, the utter vaccum of the UN has finaly reached the point where sound cannot escape. Pretty soon they will fade as light waves have trouble escaping the utter suckiness that is that moral void. Im sure Zoe could back me up with some hockey stick graphs if neccesary.

    Paco is there any early bidding allowed on the UN (Un) site yet?

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 25 at 07:57 AM • permalink

  17. The Guardian reports:

    The situation in Lebanon is “very bad, and deteriorating by the day”, said Mr Egeland. On Sunday he described the bombing of south Beirut as “a violation of humanitarian law”.

    But last night he had harsh words for Hizbullah as well, rebuking the Shi’ite group for cravenly using civilians as human shields. “Hizbullah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children,” Mr Egeland said.

    Bush not only condemns Hezbollah’s human shield cowardice, he expects action:

    Mr Bush still opposed the idea of an immediate ceasefire, he added, saying there was no reason to believe it would stop violence in the Middle East; instead the world should confront Hizbullah and its practice of using the Lebanese people as “human shields”.

    Posted by J F Beck on 2006 07 25 at 08:07 AM • permalink

  18. #16: Donald Trump and I have a cage match set for next month to decide who will get the option on the UN site. And when I show up in Madison Square Garden for the event, don’t be surprised that I look exactly like Rey Mysterioso; everybody says that.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 25 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  19. Haven’t Hezbollah, Hamas and Al Qaeda put international law, humanitarian law, or whatever Mr. Equivalence Egeland wants to call it today, through the shredder?
    Is any law touted by the UN worth anything?
    Events trump it.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 07 25 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  20. What about this for an idea?

    The UNIFL (which is just an observation force anyway, a job it accomplishes with particular aplomb) can keep score of the casuality count.

    When Hezbollah knocks off a couple of Israeli kids then they can say, fair enough, Israel now gets to top a couple of Lebanese kids to ensure ‘proportionality’. And vice versa. You couldn’t trust them to count Israeli casualties, of course. Would need to use the Red Cross or some such organisation.

    Nobody could then complain that the response is unfair.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2006 07 25 at 08:13 AM • permalink

  21. I listened into the press conference where Jan spoke about this at great length and with great passion.  It was an incredible oration that left me by the end rising to my feet and applauding.

    You could hear his voice rising to a crescendo, you could see the tears welling up in his eyes, as he said it was wrong - MORALLY WRONG I think he said with great emphasis, as he pounded the lectern - to use civilian areas to

    Posted by angela on 2006 07 25 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  22. Let’s see…600 rockets into southern Israel after they moved out of Gaza and before the soldier was grabbed, and 150 rockets into northern Israel just the day before the 2 soldiers were kidnapped.

    Of course they want a ceasefire (but only if Israel is winning).  Of course war is bad for children and other living things (unless they are Jewish).  Of course the plight of homeless civilians is terrible (unless it’s Jews who had to move south).  Of course the response is disproportionate (unless it’s the arab response).

    What a load of

    Posted by trainer on 2006 07 25 at 08:29 AM • permalink

  23. James Thurber reports that when the all-night-long-singing whip-or-will’s call ends with the ``whip,’’ it’s because his mate killed him.

    Something like that may be going on here.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 07 25 at 08:56 AM • permalink

  24. ...he added, to use civilian areas to ...

    Party on down!

    Posted by Quentin George on 2006 07 25 at 09:03 AM • permalink

  25. he added, to use civilian areas to rape little girls. (He’s not condemning Hezbollah, but UN forces. The same bunch Kofi wants to put amomg Lebonese civilians.)

    Posted by stats on 2006 07 25 at 09:12 AM • permalink

  26. “using civilian areas to…” is just an updated version of the “You wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses on” defense. Maybe they’ll all start wearing glasses. Then the Israelis are screwed.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2006 07 25 at 09:16 AM • permalink

  27. I guess they just couldn’t bring themselves to condemn Hizbollah. My theory is that all UN bureaucrats have an anti-Israeli chip imbedded in their brains which prevents them from saying anything positive about Israel; as indicated, this chip will even stop them in mid-sentence.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 25 at 09:29 AM • permalink

  28. I’ve been seeing unprecedented signs of attempts among the MSM to provide “balanced” coverage.  Halfhearted attempts, to be sure, but amazing considering the absence before.  Why, even aol.com/news is actually showing pictures of the damage in Israeli cities caused by Hezbollah rockets, instead of the usual one-sided “leveling of Lebanon”. 

    For the first time, after all these decades, the MSM is decrying the Islamist tendency to shove women and children in front of Israeli fire.  After all these decades.  It’s enough to make you want to

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 25 at 09:40 AM • permalink

  29. ... to ...to ... to what? The UN statement simply ends without saying, as though any subsequent words have been, I don’t know, kidnapped or something.

    That’s what the UN gets for using the cheap PC’s with those Intel chips manufactured in Jenin for

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 25 at 09:52 AM • permalink

  30. Ugh, the UN website.

    I probably should wash the keyboard and mouse now….

    Posted by Bashir Gemayel on 2006 07 25 at 10:38 AM • permalink

  31. As to the various mysteries propounded by the UN/media nexus:

    “using civilian areas to…”  His head exploded as he was about to write a truthful statement about terrorists.

    And “curiously the sunglasses never left her head.”  It’s the high sign!  From Rove to the Israelis!

    Posted by Patricia on 2006 07 25 at 10:42 AM • permalink

  32. And, my favorite UN joke:

    UN, from The Onion

    Posted by Patricia on 2006 07 25 at 10:48 AM • permalink

  33. what a pathetic, wretched excuse for an organisation eh…  although after helping to create that whole Jenin Massacre myth, nothing is too low for their officials to stoop to….

    and with the typical response of european governments and their officials towards Israel, do they really want (as i have seen proposed) european forces brought in as UN peacekeepers to create a buffer zone in Southern Lebanon???  i wouldn’t trust most of these europeans any further than i could kick them frankly….

    Posted by casanova on 2006 07 25 at 11:22 AM • permalink

  34. “... to use civilian areas to ...

    ...to…

    ...to ... sinnngggg!”

    Posted by Bill Spencer on 2006 07 25 at 11:26 AM • permalink

  35. #32—Well, that’s one benefit to the alleged climate change/rising sea level dilemma. Must be a Rovian conspiracy.

    Posted by Forbes on 2006 07 25 at 11:29 AM • permalink

  36. Oh shit!  Go out for a White Castle slider and look what happens.

    (quickly presses red button, rebooting the software of UNobot, looks around, hopes no one has noticed)

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 25 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  37. #36 wronwright;

    Go out for a White Castle slider and look what happens.

    One Whitey-One-Bite? Man, you have discipline! I always have a few doubles, with the unfortunate result that my colon feels like it is going to

    Posted by Rob C. on 2006 07 25 at 12:59 PM • permalink

  38. I have noticed a remarkable lack of proportionality in the hatred of Hezbollah-ites and Israelis.  Who do those Zionists think they are?  They think they’re so high and mighty.  They should be forced - FORCED, I tell you! - to hate the Arabs/Muslims just as much as the Arabs/Muslims hate them.  I mean, there are mosques - MOSQUES, I tell you! - in Israel!  Until this balance of hatred is redressed, there will be no peace in the Middle East.

    Posted by robert speirs on 2006 07 25 at 01:25 PM • permalink

  39. The UN is obviously in the grip of an evil cabal of trekkies, and Egeland is no doubt one of them.  They just do not have the technology or power to enforce the rules of proportionality so beautifully and dramatically expressed in season #1, episode #23, and their frustration shows.

    Posted by timothy on 2006 07 25 at 02:35 PM • permalink

  40. That UN link doesn’t even contain the text you quoted, at least not now.

    I guess the question is, how can it be a civilian area if it’s admittedly being used for military purposes?

    Posted by Sigivald on 2006 07 25 at 03:09 PM • permalink

  41. There are some great posts here; I’m rollin’ on the deck like an empty coke bottle in a storm.

    #32, Patricia, thank you for the Onion link.  The thing looked like a navigation hazard to me.  I bet the Coasties tow it out to sea, where the Navy can use it for target practice. 

    Hey!  A sailor can dream, can’t she?

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 07 25 at 03:54 PM • permalink

  42. #39 - Let me guess, “A Taste of Armageddon?”

    *sob*

    When I think of all the gray cells taken up with TOS trivia, I want to

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 07 25 at 04:09 PM • permalink

  43. According to
    The UN yesterday stopped short of accusing Hezbollah of using ambulances as transport vehicles. However, it suggested that the cowardly tactic of blending in with civilians had contributed to the terrible toll taken on communities in the south, where most of the 391 Lebanese have been killed.

    “Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children,” UN humanitarian affairs chief Jan Egeland said.

    “I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don’t think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men.”

    The Australian Newspaper

    Posted by 81Alpha on 2006 07 25 at 04:30 PM • permalink

  44. Well I got that arse about. The 3 paragraphs are quotes from the Oz.

    Posted by 81Alpha on 2006 07 25 at 04:31 PM • permalink

  45. Which proves what exactly? Who hasn’t been in the middle of a sentence when they had to rush off to have sex with someone from the third world? Happens to me all the

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 07 25 at 06:28 PM • permalink

  46. Four UN Observers have now been killed in Souhthern Lebanon. 
    Perhaps Engeland failed to pass on to them that they were in a dangerous war zone, and among civilians
    What good were they doing there, after they had failed for years to do any good?

    Posted by Barrie on 2006 07 25 at 06:34 PM • permalink

  47. #46, I speculate that, considering UNIFIL’s past history with Scumbollah, the UN observers might have been very naughty (such as spotting for Scumbollah), and the Israelis “accidentally” took them out.  Hey, I can spin a conspiracy as well as anybody.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 25 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  48. If Hezbollah is disarmed will they be Hezbo-lite?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 07 25 at 07:05 PM • permalink

  49. Which proves what exactly? Who hasn’t been in the middle of a sentence when they had to rush off to have sex with someone from the third world? Happens to me all the

    What is that camel going on about?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 25 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  50. Hm, wron’s a virgin? I’ve been needing a virgin sacrifice for

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 25 at 10:37 PM • permalink

  51. Yes, but did he have his sunnies on throughout?

    Posted by kae on 2006 07 25 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  52. For that piece of garabge Egeland, you have just lost 4 UN troops through an “accident.”


    An “accident” pinpointed by laser.


    So shut up.


    Learn that silence is golden.

    Posted by MarshallD on 2006 07 25 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  53. 81Alpha — The Palis got caught using UN ambulances to transport SAM-7’s or -18’s.  No reason to assume Hezbollah wasn’t onto the trick.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 26 at 12:56 AM • permalink

  54. #40 The page changes every day for each briefing; the above link is from Monday and is archived at:
    http://tinyurl.com/hoar7
    Where the sentence is still unfinished.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 07 26 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  55. P.S. But I saved a screenshot just in case.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 07 26 at 01:09 AM • permalink

  56. How about some sympathy for the victims instead of cheap politicking?

    Posted by gson on 2006 07 26 at 09:07 AM • permalink

  57. Everybody on this thread does have sympathy for the victims, or they wouldnt have posted there opinions here ,unlike you we all seem to know the difference between right and wrong, not to mention right and left.

    Posted by phillip on 2006 07 26 at 10:06 AM • permalink

  58. #56 gson:

    I’m sure we all have plenty of sympathy for the victims, gson, and I’m sure just about all the commenters here would like to invite you to

    Posted by Rob C. on 2006 07 26 at 10:08 AM • permalink

  59. Oh S##T,i fed the troll!!!!

    Posted by phillip on 2006 07 26 at 10:13 AM • permalink

  60. #56 How about some sympathy for the victims instead of cheap politicking?

    How about a dose of reality instead of pointless trolling?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 26 at 01:22 PM • permalink

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