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Peter Garrett ‘fesses up:

Labor frontbencher Peter Garrett has told a radio host his party’s “me too” approach to policy would only last until the election, then they would “change it all”.

Steve Price, a presenter on Sydney radio station 2UE, has claimed Mr Garrett told him during an on-the-record discussion in an airport this morning that Labor would “change it all” once in power.

”(He said) the ‘me too’ tag will not matter after the election because, quote, ‘once we get in we will just change it all’,” Price said on radio today.

He’s always been seven feet of pure liability, this boy. Rudd can’t say he wasn’t warned.

Posted by Tim B. on 11/02/2007 at 03:14 AM
  1. I don’t know whether I am going to laugh or cry when this bunch of plonkers stumbles into power. Get ready for the rollercoaster I reckon.

    Posted by rbresca on 2007 11 02 at 03:28 AM • permalink

  2. And how many of us (either side) have been fooled by the charlatanism any way?

    Posted by jpaulg on 2007 11 02 at 03:31 AM • permalink

  3. And still the voting public under the age of 30 will shrug their shoulders, say ‘Meh’ and wilfully hold their hands out for ever more. Rudd could come out and say he’s actually a member of a death cult hell bent on the return of Shiva the Destroyer and he’d still get clapped and cheered.

    Hell. Handbasket. Go on.

    Posted by CB on 2007 11 02 at 03:32 AM • permalink

  4. “Sing these songs of no denying, the ALP has been caught out lying..”

    Strangely Garrett cost the ALP the last election too.

    Posted by curious george on 2007 11 02 at 03:43 AM • permalink

  5. DARK CLOUD: Yep. But it is going to happen, folks.

    SILVER LINING: Just think of all the fun we can have with the neocommies!
    We will have the delightful spectacle of the neocommies squealing and howling that the Brave New World has not happened (with all the leftard/moonbat/neocommie infighting that means) while we point out the disaster that followed from their blatant lying about ‘mee-toooo!’ on all of Howard’s policies, then changing them all and smashing up the economy.

    Years of fun. Pity about the disaster, but perhaps every generation needs one to understand that it is really dumb to elect ‘f*ckwits’ (with apologies to Chris Sheils for borrowing his very favourite piece of schoolyard invective).

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2007 11 02 at 03:47 AM • permalink

  6. Garrett probably sees the ALP’s public poll lead as pretty much unassailable, and is throwing it out there knowing that overall, two-fifths of the proverbial may reconsider their vote. And would end up voting Green anyway if they do.
    It would make a change if some of the alleged vaunted ‘talent’ within the current cabinet could come out and start tearing shreds off the ALP and it’s pack of ideological dullards.

    Posted by CB on 2007 11 02 at 03:49 AM • permalink

  7. No doubt the media will run and run with this, just as they have done with every mis-speak, real or imaginary, from the Coalition.  (Or Abbott’s ‘swearing’. Didn’t he realize that only union thugs and Mark Latham are allowed to talk like that?)

    Posted by cuckoo on 2007 11 02 at 03:49 AM • permalink

  8. Richard Wilkins defends Garrett’s version….

    Nine Network’s Gossipologist, (not party to the Price/Garrett conversation), saw Garrett laughing and joking while talking to Price. Wow! With evidence like that it must be true!

    Garrett couldn’t have said it. Because he was smiling.

    I never thought of Wilkins as overly bright, but I didn’t think he thought we were that stupid!

    *Wilkins joins Ray Martin in the Labor Camp.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 11 02 at 03:49 AM • permalink

  9. On a slight oblique, I was pleased today to find that, when my work colleagues (all Howard haters, who would consider themselves informed voters) were discussing Abbott’s Press Club debacle, not one of them knew Nicola Roxon’s name or her shadow portfolio.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2007 11 02 at 03:53 AM • permalink

  10. #3 CB

    In this country, Hillary Rodham could come out (heh) and say we were all converting to the Cult of Cthulhu and most people under 30 would shrug their shoulders, say “meh” and hold out their hands for more…

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 02 at 03:57 AM • permalink

  11. The lyrics to Midnight Oils’ song ‘Cold Cold Change’ seem strangely ironic:

    But no lasting change, well we were turned around
    We jumped in the air to see over the wall
    No master plan, its a bad design
    Significant time in spite of us all

    Cold cold change, we were so excited
    Waiting on the outside, waiting to begin
    Left us all angry and bewildered
    Laughing at the way we were taken in

    Posted by Nic on 2007 11 02 at 03:59 AM • permalink

  12. Don’t know if all hope is lost. Chatting to most people i know in the 30-40 age group that left school around the times of “the recession we had to have”. Not many have forgotten getting qualifications and (at least in my case) working for multiple employers, most of who went belly up rendering them unemployed again.
    The problem is the 27 and unders who’ve found jobs easy to get. At work at the moment we have people not wanting to go permanent, preferring to remain casual for a couple of bucks an hour more in the pay packet.
    Rudd could burn kittens on live TV and be described as “edgy” and “brave” for the effort. The old man recons he hasnt seen media this one sided since Whitless got in.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 11 02 at 04:12 AM • permalink

  13. #5

    We will have the delightful spectacle of the neocommies squealing and howling that the Brave New World has not happened (with all the leftard/moonbat/neocommie infighting that means) while we point out the disaster that followed from their blatant lying about ‘mee-toooo!’ on all of Howard’s policies, then changing them all and smashing up the economy.

    Won’t happen. The cognitive dissonance of true believers won’t allow them to see what “their party” are really doing. It happened in NZ. The day after Helen Clark’s mob were elected in 1999, the posts on nz.politics by the Left were unbelievable. You’d think poverty, illiteracy, inequality, cancer and baldness had all been cured overnight.

    Clark did a few minor cosmetic changes that gave lip-service to their ideological rants, but changed very little, and NZ ran pretty much the same as it had under National. That the same levers were being pulled by National’s successors was not as important to the latte set, as the fact the team wearing the right labels on their jumpers were pulling the levers.

    Compare our lefty lovies, such as Phatty and Marieke. You’d think Keating was Castro, the way they laud his lefty credentials. The Chardonnay set will see whatever they want to see, and what they will see is their golden-haired boy, Rudd, in the pilot’s seat. And that’s all that will matter. Even if the dollar goes south, unemployment and inflation rise, and life gets tougher for working Australia, they won’t care. Because they’ll be back where they always have been, and wanted to be, firmly attached to the public teat, and oblivious to the sufferings of ordinary Australians.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 11 02 at 04:15 AM • permalink

  14. Into what?

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:16 AM • permalink

  15. I was listening to 2GB, around 4pm which reported that Garrett had spoken with Richard Wilkins, of Channel Nine. Although Wilkins was there, in the background, there was no mention of Price at all, presumably because 2GB dared not name a presented on a rival network.

    Pathetic.

    I daresay there will be quite a few people in the Labor Party saying “I told you not to hire a friggin’ rockstar”.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 11 02 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  16. #8
    Someone I know knows Wilkins. Nice bloke.

    Dumb as a box of rocks.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:18 AM • permalink

  17. Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard. I don’t know how you did it, but you did it! The GarrettBot may be your best effort yet. I used to think that eplieptic fit thing he did on stage was dancing. Nup! Just a short circuit.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 02 at 04:20 AM • permalink

  18. #16
    I daresay there will be quite a few people in the Labor Party saying “I told you not to hire a friggin’ rockstar fuckwit”.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:20 AM • permalink

  19. oops that was a quote.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:20 AM • permalink

  20. Richard Wilkins is a Kiwi. I rest my case.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 02 at 04:22 AM • permalink

  21. Richard Wilkins is a Kiwi?

    Aren’t they extinct?

    No, wait. No, they’ve all moved to Australia.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:23 AM • permalink

  22. #18 - If they exluded fuckwits, there’d be no one left.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 11 02 at 04:23 AM • permalink

  23. I knew I shouldn’ta crossed out the rockstar bit.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:24 AM • permalink

  24. This isn’t all good news. I wouldn’t be surprised if this helped solidify some of the Labor voters who were getting edgy about Rudd’s conservatism. It also makes the ‘me too’ comments from the government a bit more confusing for swinging voters.

    On another point, the polls are closer than it seems. 45/55 is a fair margin but the Labor vote tends to concentrate in particular electorates, which means the Coalition only need about 48% to retain office. Food for thought.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 11 02 at 04:29 AM • permalink

  25. Rudd can’t say he wasn’t warned.

    I don’t care about Rudd!  What about us - the rest of the population?

    Posted by ann j on 2007 11 02 at 04:29 AM • permalink

  26. Garrett is a doofus, but he doesn’t scare me that much.  You can find people like him at any surf lifesaving club.  Two stubbies and a joint and they tend to calm down.

    It’s the carrot topped commie from Hell that worries me.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 11 02 at 04:37 AM • permalink

  27. OT - A review of Margo Kingston’s new book on Webdiary might surprise.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 02 at 04:38 AM • permalink

  28. #25 -to the socialists like mr baldy, bargearse, albagreasy, kim-no-carr (for us anyway) all we the people are are sources of tax funds which they can use anyway they want to destroy our country.  Don’t be surprised at the first caucus meeting after the revolution election we emerge with a very different dictatorprime minister

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 11 02 at 04:38 AM • permalink

  29. This isn’t all good news. I wouldn’t be surprised if this helped solidify some of the Labor voters who were getting edgy about Rudd’s conservatism. It also makes the ‘me too’ comments from the government a bit more confusing for swinging voters.

    My thoughts too. And all those lefties who have been wailing about Howard lying to get into / keep power will be be happy as Larry with the brillient tactics Krudd is employing.

    Posted by Just passing by on 2007 11 02 at 04:44 AM • permalink

  30. Rudd must be so pissed off that Garrett’s released the Sneaky and Cunning Ruination of Everyone’s Wealth and Usurpation of Power scheme. He still hasn’t figured out what Gillard meant when she suggested the second part of the scheme.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 04:46 AM • permalink

  31. Kevin Rudd will be spitting ear wax, when he gets hold of Garrett.  In just a few words he(Garrett) managed to out wank Tony Abbott who had Fucked up, but only very slightly, compared to this admission by a member of a mendacious cabal.  It will be interesting to see how the media handle this feux pas.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 11 02 at 04:50 AM • permalink

  32. I can’t understand why anyone would be surprised at the idea that the ALP would do a complete 180 on the offchance they get in.

    Unless the surprise is that the ageing rocker isn’t the smartest player on the team.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 02 at 05:09 AM • permalink

  33. Thats a pretty big slip from the old slaphead.  Maybe he’d been snorting coke off hookers tits again with bono and that poncey wanker from silverchair.

    Posted by bondo on 2007 11 02 at 05:11 AM • permalink

  34. This Chimera (without the artistry) has always been a liar and he has the cheek to criticise the Liberal Govt.  He wouldn’t know shit from clay!  I bet you London bridge to brick that he will get away with it.

    Posted by Cashew on 2007 11 02 at 05:26 AM • permalink

  35. The “wise” people of the Australian Labor Party have not learnt much from their last “celebrity” candidate -  the equally whinging and whining former lover of Gareth Evans - Cheryl Kernot!

    If Labor was really serious about doing the best for Australia they would hardly be recruiting ex-teachers and ex-rock singers. And certainly not union thugs!

    Any corner shopkeeper would be far more qualified to help run the country than a taxpayer funded teacher or a micro-managed rock star.

    The truth about Rudd and Labor, which most of us always suspected, has now been spectacularly exposed.

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 05:27 AM • permalink

  36. Re Ch.9, I was gobsmacked when this morning on the Today show they re-edited the Health minister debate using Abbott’s apology for being late, so that he appeared to apologise to each of Roxon’s talking points made in her opening speech. How the hell are they allowed to get away with this kind of crap?

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 11 02 at 05:35 AM • permalink

  37. #36 I’d be inclined to lodge a complaint about that Srekwah.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 05:37 AM • permalink

  38. Orwellian Pig’s Lipstick Mussed - Again!
    In a week when the ALP position on Climate Change (formerly Climate Warming) was wrenched back to the default imitative mode (and revealed as hitherto worthless), courtesy of some real questions from Uhlmann, and which ended with a blunder of mammoth proportions (it’ll all change after the election), Mark Colvin on PM tonight still managed to put it to his pollie guests that Tony Abbott’s bad day was the defining event of the week. When Mark did put it to Penny Wong that her party was too me too, she stressed that the ALP was quite different on Climate Change (eh?), Broadband, Work Choices, and lots of stuff.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 02 at 05:43 AM • permalink

  39. As for ex-Kiwi Wilkins - I think Price’s version of the conversation is the most credible.

    Funny how those “show biz” types stick together. Although I had previously concluded that Wilkins was not as left-leaning as most of the current crop at Channel Nine.

    I guess it comes with the job!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 05:43 AM • permalink

  40. Peter Garrett by Terry Turner.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 05:47 AM • permalink

  41. As for ex-Kiwi Wilkins - I think Price’s version of the conversation is the most credible.

    Funny how those “show biz” types(Garrett and Wilkins) stick together. Although I had previously concluded that Wilkins was not as left-leaning as most of the current crop at Channel Nine.

    I guess it comes with the job!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 05:49 AM • permalink

  42. From the link at post 27:
    Unlike most people she has enemies.
    Unlike most people? I have few enemies myself.
    Such a relief then to read on:
    She is oblivious to the reasons why she may have acquired them.
    That edge, I do have. When people take to sticking pins in those little wax SC dolls they usually aim directly at the mouth region…

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 02 at 05:49 AM • permalink

  43. #40 That is fucking scary!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 05:50 AM • permalink

  44. Speaking of changing (into something more comfortable, J. Edgar Hoover just turned up in Sydney’s north.

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 02 at 05:51 AM • permalink

  45. #40
    Halloween was two days ago, eenie!

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 05:55 AM • permalink

  46. #27
    Bewildered. I’m just bewildered.

    How can Margork take herself so seriously and think herself a messianic icon for the “true believers”?

    She’s an icon for deluded fools.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 05:58 AM • permalink

  47. #43 I agree Ash! He has always been a very frightening individual, but that painting may have uncovered the real Garrett!

    Whatever Garrett actually IS, it is clear he is not a politician’s bootstrap!

    To have him as part of an Australian Government together with all those other non-producing bludgers would be, as you say Ash - Fucking Scary!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 05:59 AM • permalink

  48. #47 I know what I’ll be having my nightmares about tonight Dave.

    Can’t sleep, Garrett will eat me. Can’t sleep, Garrett will eat me.

    And when I eventually fall asleep…

    *muttering in sleep* “Garrett. coming. to. get. me. will. be. prime. minister. when. Shorten. stabs. Gillard. after. Gillard. shafts. Kevni. Garrett. coming. to. get. me.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:04 AM • permalink

  49. #45 yeah but Halloween is for fictional monsters.

    #27- So much in that review worth commenting on- but I like this line: ‘Like the last book it is a hard slog, exhausting in its cumulative effect, despite Kingston’s breathless style. Get your thumbs ready to skim’ seems even the fans find ‘Hagrid’ indigestable.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 06:05 AM • permalink

  50. See? Garrett even ate my .

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:06 AM • permalink

  51. ‘indegestible’- hard to stomach anyway

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  52. today is not my day- ‘indigestible’- it’s thinking of Margo that’s doing this to me.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 06:12 AM • permalink

  53. I actually like that painting of Garrett, (in a “can’t take your eyes off the accident” kind of way). I wonder if Ms Turner has it on sale? Some wealthy RWDB could buy it, and offer it to Tim to raffle here as a fund raiser. I’m sure the lucky winner could find no end of uses for such a fine work of art!

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 11 02 at 06:16 AM • permalink

  54. #53 For those in the know. Excellent Figure 11.

    Posted by CB on 2007 11 02 at 06:22 AM • permalink

  55. Ash (#37) I can’t see that it would make any difference. Who is there in this country with authority that takes political bias complaints seriously? This is a broad, deliberate and concerted effort to put the ALP into power whatever the cost.

    I’ll do it if someone can point me in the right direction. Who knows, maybe mine will tip the balance - sure it will.

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 11 02 at 06:23 AM • permalink

  56. Dear Peter,

    Thank you for coming clean. 

    I knew you had it in you

    love as always….

    Cyndi

    PS: I’m sure people will understand

    Posted by Wand on 2007 11 02 at 06:28 AM • permalink

  57. #4
    ALP forces give Garrett the nod
    It’s a setback for you, KRuddy
    Friendly fire in a row ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:33 AM • permalink

  58. #55 It probably wouldn’t Srekwah, but if they get enough complaints, they may realise that their open bias is unacceptable.

    Short of calling Channel 9, this is the best I could find.

    Maybe someone else here has a better idea where to look.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:34 AM • permalink

  59. OT: Global Warming. It has to be Global Warming.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:35 AM • permalink

  60. #59
    Obviously from the Tara Brown academy for Doofi.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 06:39 AM • permalink

  61. #60 They’re a talented bunch. The frontal lobotomies must have helped.

    Hint: if you’re somewhere where animals who hunt are likely to be, don’t be terribly surprised if they look at you hungrily.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:43 AM • permalink

  62. Garrett hoodoos me-too guru: bye bye Rudd?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 06:47 AM • permalink

  63. OT Earwax makes it to ABC’s the World Today:

    ELEANOR HALL: Now, before we go I have to just mention one word to you: earwax. Now, I have to raise the subject of this because there have been more than 250,000 hits on the YouTube vision of Kevin Rudd eating his earwax.
    KATE CARNELL: Oh.

    ELEANOR HALL: Should he be worried? Con Sciacca?

    CON SCIACCA: No, I’d be pretty certain that he wouldn’t have eaten his earwax. It may have seemed like that. I mean, I’ve never … I’ve heard of people eating other sorts of pieces of things from noses and stuff, but I’ve never heard of eating your earwax. Look, I just think it’s a little bit of a funny thing. I don’t think anyone is going to take that too seriously. I don’t think he is going to lose any votes as a result of that.

    ELEANOR HALL: Kate Carnell, what do you think?

    KATE CARNELL: It’s disgusting. (laughing)

    CON SCIACCA: It is disgusting isn’t it Kate? (laughing)

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 06:56 AM • permalink

  64. Thanks for that Ash, I’ll send it off for what it’s worth, it may make me feel better anyway.

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 11 02 at 07:14 AM • permalink

  65. There is no way this guy is going to last even one term in the ministry.  I’m just waiting for “The Garrett Diaries”.

    Posted by AlexanderH on 2007 11 02 at 07:23 AM • permalink

  66. #64 It certainly can’t hurt Srekwah. There’s a possibility that they assume each email complaint is representative of at least 10 people, so it may have an effect.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 07:29 AM • permalink

  67. Ash, I sent off a polite complaint and lamented that any vestiges of loyalty and respect I once felt for the network has utterly evaporated. I finished with the strict promise that any program I want to watch showing on Nine in future will be downloaded from the net instead.

    Actually I do feel better and I fully intend to keep my promise. Not a good time to piss off punters when media is in such a flux I would have thought, but what do I know?

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 11 02 at 07:48 AM • permalink

  68. #55 Ash,

    Whilst ever we have 25% of the population feeding at the taxpayer-funded trough, and have the majority of the media thinking that that is OK - we are always going to be up shit creek without a paddle!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  69. Srekwah, hopefully they pay attention. I can’t help thinking that Kerry Packer would be ashamed of the Nine Network now.

    Nine should go back to reporting the news instead of trying to make it.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  70. #68 Good point Dave.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 07:56 AM • permalink

  71. #69 Yes Ash, I am sure he would!

    Australians like Kerry Packer are hard to find in the wishy washy bull-shit Australia of today.

    They still exist. But sadly they are often like me, over 50, and starting to realise that the future is hopefully up to intelligent and wise young people like yourself!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  72. I always had a lot of respect for Kerry Packer Dave, because if he didn’t like something on his network, it was taken off the second he made a phone call. And the news was often news then too.

    I also admired his stance on tax. I recall he once commented that he paid as little tax as possible… good on him!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 08:19 AM • permalink

  73. Garrett, hmmmmm. Isn’t he the Klingon with semi human features?

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 11 02 at 08:32 AM • permalink

  74. #53 I’d rather take to it on the BAC.

    Posted by Richard Sharpe on 2007 11 02 at 08:38 AM • permalink

  75. Sorry CB, should have been 54.

    Posted by Richard Sharpe on 2007 11 02 at 08:40 AM • permalink

  76. Yojimbo first brought up the subject of the University of Delaware’s “re-education camp”. Hey, buddy, if you haven’t seen it yet, thought you might be interested to see this Hot Air piece on the program’s termination. It is possible to slash the tires on the leftwing juggernaut.

    With respect to Garrett: I thought the walking dead were supposed to be, y’know, more circumspect. How are you supposed to sneak into the village and run off with the beautiful maiden if you’re playing “Waltzing Matilda” on a kazoo to the rhythm of your squeaky shoes?

    Posted by paco on 2007 11 02 at 08:47 AM • permalink

  77. #70 Ash, Huge,unnecessary,wasteful governmment agencies/departments and the majority of parasitic morons “employed” in the bludge - house of the public sector are in my opinion at the root of Australia’s current malaise.

    Expect many more people on the taxpayer -funded payroll should the “Christian Socialist” and “Economic Conservative” ever get elected!

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 08:52 AM • permalink

  78. #75 While your at it, the top third makes a good sticker for a sneaker practice. Or to stick on a frame charge. Either or, not fussed.

    Posted by CB on 2007 11 02 at 08:52 AM • permalink

  79. O/T
    The years have not been kind to Michael Kroger. (On ABsC now.)

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 08:55 AM • permalink

  80. #78 You know those demos of the the beaten zone…...?

    Posted by Richard Sharpe on 2007 11 02 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  81. Peter Garrett: the gift that keeps on giving.

    Posted by Young and Free on 2007 11 02 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  82. Ash#72:

    I also admired his stance on tax. I recall he once commented that he paid as little tax as possible… good on him!

    He went on to say something like: “When one sees the way you (the then Hawke/Keating government) spend it, I would not be wanting to donate anymore)

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  83. #77 My brain still has trouble comprehending how one can be both a Christian and a Socialist. By my figuring, he either knows the definition of one and not the other, or neither.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:08 AM • permalink

  84. For those who came in late, Beaten Zone

    Posted by Richard Sharpe on 2007 11 02 at 09:09 AM • permalink

  85. #82 I hadn’t heard that part of the quote Dave, but it’s excellent. I think Packer had a serious point though!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:10 AM • permalink

  86. #81,

    I am not a believer in any religion, but as you say - Peter Garrett sure appears to be a “gift”........ from some kind of supernatural power????

    I do not really think so…..but he does seem too good to be true

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 09:12 AM • permalink

  87. #79
    On Lateline?
    That’d be in QLD/AEST time - we’ll have to catch it on-line.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:14 AM • permalink

  88. #83

    Ash,

    I think the only thing he fully “understands” at the moment is his yearning to be “Prime Minister Rudd”!

    I seriously believe he has an inferiority complex as a result of his wife’s business success!

    That is why I call him “Rudderless Kev”.

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 11 02 at 09:19 AM • permalink

  89. #73

    A Klingon circling the Rudder’s starboard bow ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:22 AM • permalink

  90. Good Luck on the bike ride tomorrow, Surfie.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 09:30 AM • permalink

  91. The Klingon and his Ruddbot sidekick, U2ME2.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:34 AM • permalink

  92. #88 I think you’re right Dave, plus I heard the theory that he probably feels inferior because she chose not to take his surname, as well as because of her business success. I don’t know how true that is though.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:41 AM • permalink

  93. #91 That’s damn funny Egg!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 09:42 AM • permalink

  94. #92
    She’s giving him the thumbs down?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 02 at 10:01 AM • permalink

  95. #94 I wouldn’t be at all surprised! I mean, just look at the guy!

    Or better yet, don’t. Your eyes deserve better!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 10:02 AM • permalink

  96. #89 ta egg- I haven’t heard that in years. (bought the single when i was a geeky 14yo)

    #92 in the last Qld state election the liberal leader Dr Flegg was attacked by the usual media suspects for his wealth. I wonder why they’re not doing the same for Krudd?.I guess marrying money is less immoral than earning it

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 02 at 10:13 AM • permalink

  97. #96 The Vic State Liberal leader had the same stuff to deal with. Bailleiu had a significant portfolio, and had done all he needed to remove it as an issue, but the media was still unhappy.

    If it’s good enough to drag Libs through the past over their wealth, isn’t it good enough for Labor, Greens, Democrats, and so on?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 02 at 10:19 AM • permalink

  98. Labor frontbencher Peter Garrett has told a radio host his party’s “me too” approach to policy would only last until the election, then they would “change it all”.

    Amazing!  An honest Labor politician!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 11 02 at 10:21 AM • permalink

  99. #76, PACOSAN

    Thank you for the great news.  Sunshine is a great antiseptic.

    But, as we both know, the process will go on unabated just in an informal manner.  The mindset that every white person is, de facto, a racist hasn’t changed.  Simply must keep fighting and supporting individuals and groups that have drawn a line in the sand.

    As a great American once stated,“Courage”...:)

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 02 at 11:32 AM • permalink

  100. He went on to say something like: “When one sees the way you (the then Hawke/Keating government) spend it, I would not be wanting to donate anymore)

    I like to think he was referring to all governments.

    Posted by hayesy on 2007 11 02 at 11:35 AM • permalink

  101. I think Garrett’s problem is that he’s too honest for politics.

    I actually feel sorry for Garrett. He’s going to have to endure yet another “counceling” session from Kevin Rudd.

    Posted by llllloooooo on 2007 11 02 at 12:20 PM • permalink

  102. Rudd ................ he’s actually a member of a death cult hell bent on the return of Shiva the Destroyer

    Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 11 02 at 12:40 PM • permalink

  103. When I gave speeches to politically interested high-schoolers some years ago, my favorite quote to share was from a sitting U.S. Congressman (the source is on paper somewhere in my files).  Addressing a breakout session of the Democrat Party. The words, from memory, were:

    “Gays, feminists, environmentalist, just shut up. You’ll get what you want after the election.”

    Oddly, it never made the newspapers, but he also never denied it.

    Posted by Rittenhouse on 2007 11 02 at 01:53 PM • permalink

  104. Well, y’all are missing the lefts’ definition of truth.

    Truth=goal=ruling power. It’s not how you play the game, it’s simply a matter of whether you win or lose, period.

    They have the absolute right to power, and anything the have to say or do is just a single step to the one step process.

    They know how to run your lives far better than you do and the fact that some are fooled by thier talk is simply proof.

    I doubt very seriously if many of them really consider their utterances untruthful, simply a process to rightful governance.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 02 at 02:06 PM • permalink

  105. hmm

    That should be “anything THEY have to say..”

    “Their” instead of “thier”

    And I did read it.  Scary isn’t it!...:)

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 02 at 02:11 PM • permalink

  106. #104: Don’t forget the atrocities, Yojimbo.

    (Via Slublog)

    Posted by paco on 2007 11 02 at 02:16 PM • permalink

  107. #106

    Ha!!

    I think that cat could still win an election here in Arizona if we could just get him on the ballot!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 02 at 03:06 PM • permalink

  108. #54.CB.
    Where’s that drop short Ubique when you need him?
    Fire mission Regiment over…
    Prepare umpteen Nuke rounds.
    Mmmmmm, nuke rounds.

    Posted by 81Alpha on 2007 11 02 at 04:03 PM • permalink

  109. #102 I knew it! Wonder what Christian Socialist policies Shiva will have implemented upon ascendance to political and cultural domination?

    Posted by CB on 2007 11 02 at 04:13 PM • permalink

  110. If you’ve ever got Peter Garrett on your side, you know you’re in it and deep. Quoting here from the Australian Parliamentary Library 1996-97:

    The industry put a number of objections to the PSA and in public comment at the time and since. Following the PSA report record company executives and rock stars banded together in various public and private lobbying exercises… Although many of the industry’s objections were answered in the PSA report, the industry appealed emotionally, with debatable streams of argument, and repeated earlier assertions made in the PSA hearings and elsewhere. For example, Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil mistakenly referred to the effects of ‘the repealing of copyright protection’.(30) It would indeed be serious if the Government had been contemplating the repeal of copyright protection, but of course one would have to be fairly creative or mischievous to construe the PSA recommendations as repealing copyright.

    If anyone at ALP headquarters had half a brain they’d buy Pete a life membership in the Liberal Party and make sure he stayed there.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 02 at 04:35 PM • permalink

  111. #110
    Hmm. Swinish, you really do have something there. However, do you think he might have gone to the ALP for political endorsement when the Libs wouldn’t have anything to do with him?
    Garrett’s too old and too wealthy to be a lefty.
    Then again, he is an artyfarty.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 04:46 PM • permalink

  112. Hmmm… what about the Aus Democrats, kae? They’re on the way out well and truly, and they might just suck Pete down the gurgler along with them.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 02 at 05:12 PM • permalink

  113. Well, it’ll be that with the Dooms or it’ll be him sucking the ALP down the gurgler with him.

    But I really did like the comment about his spaz style of dancing being a short circuit.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 06:38 PM • permalink

  114. O/T
    A friend just sent me this about lost luggage. Bloody funny!

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 06:46 PM • permalink

  115. Garret explains, and just digs deeper.

    I didn’t say that. I said “Positive policy changes”.

    Sounds the same thing to me.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 02 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  116. kae

    Garret explains, and just digs deeper.

      I didn’t say that. I said “Positive policy changes”.

    Sounds the same thing to me.

    Sounds like that to me too.  So much for spin!  And here’s the link  provided by The Australian this morning to Steve Price on 2UE reporting what Garrett said.

    Posted by Wand on 2007 11 02 at 08:51 PM • permalink

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