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Natalie Solent on extremist eco-talk:
There are plenty of other people about using the terms climate change “denialist” or “denier” in an effort to make [warming non-believers] sound equivalent to the likes of David Irving. Those who use these terms generally say they don’t intend to make this parallel. I don’t believe them.
More to the point, I believe in climate change less because of them.
Extremists generally have such an effect on sensible middle-grounders. Which is why I’m happy for them to keep it up. Meanwhile, the Age warns that John Howard risks eco-isolation:
Mr Howard will, in the lead-up to next October’s election, begin to look ever more isolated if he continues to hold the line against decisive action on climate change.
I advocate immediate decisive action in the form of a ban on print media. The environmental benefits? Incalculable! Over in Scotland, the latest enviro-fear is ... trains:
A new high-speed rail link between Scotland and England could help wreck the climate, not save it, as it would increase pollution by encouraging more people to travel.
To the caves, revolutionaries!
Oh, and what do you think you’ll be making your barge out of, ushie? Wood, perhaps? That’s trees, you Gaia-raping eco-fascist, living breathing trees you want to kill just so you can speed along to Florida atop Mother Ocean’s aching back, probably killing numerous hermit crabs and plankton along the way. Filthy beast!! Repent!!!!!!
Posted by Crispytoast on 2006 10 15 at 02:38 PM • permalinkNo, no, no traveling at all, you dolts! Don’t you get it? We must all stay in our little hamlets, tilling the fields like happy peasants, never traveling more than five miles from where we were born (and even that on foot), and we must never read anything or listen to anything that might contradict the sacred wisdom of our betters. Who are busy flitting around the world in jets, saving the environment.
Just as “environmental denialist” is an attempt to smuggle in a concept by shaping the language, so is “extremist.” Holding an absolute view is seen as “extremism” even if the absolute view has merit, by the nature of it being an “extreme” view. The result is constant compromise between right and wrong, and this has been the tip of the wedge for countless issues. Let’s put “extremism” to bed so we don’t pair what’s stupid with what is absolute and right.
Oh, maaan, Rebecca H and Crispytoast, I don’t want to be a feudal peasant, laboring on Laurie David’s grand estate, grabbing my forelock whenever her limo goes by, then going back to my grubbing for turnips, then stumbling back (barefoot) to my mud hovel, there to heat my dirty turnips over a manure fire.
“Dirty turnips” sounds kinda…dirty, actually.
Recording of train ruining the climate in Ohio last May 1, at 1 in the morning. Also features somebody banging on an iron pipe, dogs, and a siren. http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/night.train7.ram
It seems to be a Nathan 5-chime horn, the most disastrous one for environmental effects. The sound makes people want to travel.
Canada by law requires train whistles in a minor key, to keep people at home. America adds a 7th, ushering in the age of the blues and transcontinental movement.
Here is crack NBC reporter Michelle Kosinski, hot on the Jon Benet Ramsey case, confused by just such a train whistle during a newscast, so rattling is it of brain function http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.benet1.ram . There would be no such problem if they used wind chimes instead, on locomotives.
Finally, my Doberman pup Vicki commenting on sirens http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/vickisiren.ram another climate destroyer. It makes people rush
The Great Man-Made Global Warmening crowd is a goddamn loony relious cult, no more sensible than those “Heaven’s Gate” crackpots believing the incoming Hale-Bopp comet was the Mother Ship.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 10 15 at 03:51 PM • permalinkSay, does this mean that instead of looking down on us Yanks as non-traveling rubes without passports, the Europinks are going to start looking up to us as non-traveling rubes without passports?
Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 10 15 at 04:35 PM • permalinkSo far, I’ve done my bit this year to encourage more than a few conniptions amongst the econuts.
I’ve flown over 20 times throughout Europe, North America, Oz and New Zealand.
And I’ve flown by both eco-despised extremes:
1. Ryanair and EasyJet (the ecofascists hate these because they encourage the churlish hoi polloi to travel far too much); and
2. business class (the ecofascists hate this because it’s the most “carbon-inefficient” way to travel).*
Always glad to do my bit!
* Betcha Al Gore flies business though!
Posted by JJM Ballantyne on 2006 10 15 at 05:16 PM • permalinkNo Paul, they will still despise us. Only the pretexts will change, the contempt will remain fixed. For example, the French will say that Ushie is using the wrong kind of manure in her fire, not the gourmet fire fuel manure a Frenchwoman would have used.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 10 15 at 05:23 PM • permalinkWhat’s the EPA rating for the Tardis, BTW?
Powered by a captive black hole; said power source nearly destroyed the universe at least once, AFAICR.
So, not good—maybe a little better than a Ford Expedition or a Hummer.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 15 at 08:00 PM • permalinkI don’t wanna stay in a little hamlet. Could I stay in a little macbeth instead?
You could always burnham wood to stay warm.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 16 at 12:59 AM • permalinkWhat are they going to do, post themselves to uni?
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 16 at 05:03 AM • permalink#5 You are describing life in the global Caliphate, RebeccaH, where everythign will be green and ignorqnce will rule, as will mules.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 16 at 05:34 AM • permalinkRight. I’ll have to answer for my thought crimes in 2106. I’ll leave the coffin open. Don’t wake me.
Good God, this is all too familiar. Last time out it was the wretched industrial proletariat, now sitting in front of big screen TVs and suffering from obesity. This time it’s all of mother earth and anyone living near the sea.
We could start with Copernicus and work our way forward through history all the way to ‘peaceful co-existence’ counting all the times the consensus has been dead wrong. But by, then we’d be scaring ourselves with something else.
Even if air tight evidence existed, the last people I’d turn the problem over to would be the same statist tools who hobbled nearly half the planet with crackpot economic theories and turned the land they controlled into ecological disaster areas.
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