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BILL’S BIG MOUTH
Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has apologised to Julia Gillard. As he should, the big idiot.
I still don’t trust leaders not prepared to invest in their country’s future. But Biil’s timing sucks worse than a Bangkok Rolex.
Lifestyle is important. God knows my alcoholic, bounder lifestyle has excluded me from running for public office… except as a Democrat, ALP or Green. Although, most of them wouild prefer if I kicked with the other foot.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 05 02 at 03:42 AM • permalink#2 Well you have to realise Nic that there is one rule for conservatives and another for those on the side of the angels. Might not be fair, but that’s life.
meantime, I am disturbed that my thought processes are exactly the same as Andrew Bolt’s on this matter.
No excuse, but while he said it last year, The Age and SMH are running with the story like an grinning Olympic sprinter, after the gold medal but before the drug test.
Gillard’s physical barrenness might be off-limits but her intellectual vapidity is plain for all to see. Her response:
“I think it’s an indication that Mr Heffernan’s a man of the past, with very old-fashioned views,” she said.
That, the day after she proposed taking Australia back to the industrial Dark Ages of the pre-Hawke, pre-Keating days while inviting Australia’s entire business community to butt out of politics.
Inclusiveness, Labor-style.
Wonder what Julie Bishop thinks of Bill?
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 05 02 at 03:50 AM • permalinkI just want to let everyone know, that I don’t want to be deliberately “Barren” it’s just that Tim B dosn’t want to make it with me! (even though I look like Michelle P, and I’m gorgeous pretty funny and a terrible typer most of all adores him on weekends)
For Julia, I would never “knowingly” dye my hair.Don’t worry about Heffernan Dork boy! If you don’t want one, that’s Ok. I would love a baby! You’re lucky Ashy!
She doesn’t dine at the Y, she’s seen more pricks than a second hand dart board.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 05 02 at 04:11 AM • permalinkegg_,
Dont keep us in suspense name the dragon slayers involved!!
Id disagree a tad on Gillards private life being out of bounds. She holds herself up as a woman of power and influence. Many male pollies are exposed for extra-marital affairs (particularly if they have run a strong families and faithfullness line). Why should a female unmarried pollie who (if eggs info is right) breaks up or is the “other woman” in a relationship be held to a lower standard?
Im putting this clumsily but why should she (as the other woman) be held to a lower standard than a married man?Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 05 02 at 04:14 AM • permalinkOh and before I forget, Heffernan is a dick, has been one for a long time.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 05 02 at 04:17 AM • permalinkOh ye of the tin ear! It is bad enough to have to fight the kind of political enemies we do these days without those who are supposedly on our side handing them ammunition. Idiot.
Could be worse, though. She could be a Pelosi type who drags innocent children into the Senate of the United States for purposes of PR. Personally, I think she was just giving a preview of the First 100 Hours childishness.)
My gut feeling, without knowing anything at all about her private life, was that Ms Gillard prefers women (NTTAWWT), and that she uses her male hairdresser friend as a handbag.
Interesting that others here suggest she may be having affairs with married men. Or as I.T. so delicately puts it “she’s seen more pricks than a second hand dart board”.That Bill Heffernan is a dill is not in contentention. That calling Julia Gillard barren equates to calling Helena Carr a mail order bride, I’m not sure I agree. Heff was undoubtedly sexist, Brogden sexist and racist.
Perhaps Heff can get Keysar Trad to use the Hilaly defence, he was quoted out of context, he really meant she was barren of new ideas about IR or something.
Posted by Viril Brun on 2007 05 02 at 04:50 AM • permalinkMedia beat up on Heff. Media barren about Labor.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 05 02 at 04:52 AM • permalinkAn MP that doesn’t have the CDF* to know when a comment is irrelevant, insulting and damaging to the fortunes of his party in an election has (in my opinion) selected himself out of the evolutionary gene pool.
In other words: what a plonker.
Abu Chowdah
*CDF = Common Dog Fuck
Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 02 at 05:23 AM • permalinkWill we now see the SMH go to town on Paul Keating for calling John Howard a “dessicated coconut” and “antediluvian”?
Stewing and maturing in his own bile over the years, Keating just gets nastier and nastier. Can’t forgive Howard for his defeating him so humiliatingly. Oh, how the pain still hurts! Doesn’t realise that his guttersnipe attacks on his opponents are what turned Australians against him. But, oh, but when your man seems down, how you rush to join the others , to put the boot in, Paul. Who knows, if I’m vicious enough, Kevvie might just make me first President of the Republic - instead of the biggest loser.
#23 - Habib. Your first point strikes me as being unhelpful. No one runs around making such comments about the male MPs, why should we make them about female MPs? That’s kind of nugatory comment is pretty much illustrative of the sort of fumbled pass Heffernan made just as the Libs had a policy plank (IR) to smack the Labour party around with…
Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 02 at 05:35 AM • permalinkInfidel Tiger -
She doesn’t dine at the Y, she’s seen more pricks than a second hand dart board.
Hey, I like The Old Y Restaurant. It’s in the middle of NO WHERE, OHIO. But they got great food for cheap prices. The owner’s 82 year old mother-in-law makes all the salads and his brother-in-law, who’s retired now, makes the pies.
Great ribs, although for $13.50 it’s pricey for a rural area. If that’s too much, you can get a great meat loaf dinner with salad bar !!! for $7.
Posted by wronwright on 2007 05 02 at 05:47 AM • permalink#23 “1/. Who or what would be likely to impregnate this visually challenging, strident harpy…”
Low blow, Habib. Offensive and irrelevant. Stick to discussion of the Labor policies please, which, let’s face it, are icky enough to make camels weep.
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 05 02 at 06:01 AM • permalinkActually, we have a similar preoccupation over here with demanding our politicians lead the sort of Ozzie-and-Harriet lifestyle that we otherwise mock and deride as “old-fashioned” and “patriarchal.” The average American can have as many unpleasant divorces and live-ins as we want, but a politician’s marital history turns us all into Mrs. Grundy scolds. Needless to say, Democrats get more of a pass because everyone knows they are simply weaker-willed in the marital-morals department (see, “they can’t help themselves, poor things”); Republicans get the brunt of the effects of this double standard. But they get it from both sides—the Dems of course take advantage of seeing conservatives fail at standards they themselves refuse to follow, but what Florence King called “Connube Cons” are just as bad. These are the so-called conservatives who think you can’t be a good person, never mind a good leader, if you aren’t married with two or three brats to show off on the podium.
Women especially get this sort of treatment, as the Fear of the Spinster runs through American culture like mold through bleu cheese. And apparently through yours too—possibly our similar colonial heritage sees a non-childbearing woman as a threat to the health of the settlement.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 05 02 at 06:12 AM • permalinkThe age thing is a tired old saw. No one really takes it seriously.
Criticising a female politician for not having children is on a whole different level. It seriously infringes on her privacy and is completely irrelevant to her ability to work as an MP. No one would dream of slapping a male MP for not having kids. Use your loaf.
Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 02 at 06:22 AM • permalink#28- she is perfectly OK looking… perhaps if you have a fetish for Woody Woodpecker, an unusual genre of hentai for sure.
Low blow, Habib. Offensive and irrelevant. My specialty. I’m hoping for a career in radio.
I think it was a dumb thing to say, but let’s face it, Ms Gizzard has continually put herself up as a font of knowledge on wimmins issues, and never having had a real job or a litter she can hardly speak from experience.
As to this daunting challenge- lay your talents before her feet - she needs you! Not even with yours; besides which, the last time I did that I got thrown off the tram.
Not knowing anything about Gillard other than that she is a Labor MP, this quote did strike me as amusing:
I don’t think Australian women need Bill Heffernan or anybody else to give them advice on how to live their lives.
If she’s anything like our Democrats, they are constantly trying to tell people how to live their lives, and not through advice, but through laws.
Posted by Not My Problem on 2007 05 02 at 06:42 AM • permalink#16
Craig Emerson thread reference#25, 36
The Krudder has been attacked here (very strongly, by wymmin) as a flawed character and unfit for leadership.Comments get entertaining, I classify them as Fools of Randomness. It’s amusing how willing people are to assign a narrative to chaotic and dynamic systems.
OT. Record month at Webdiary.
Income in April was $35 in donations, versus expenditure of $415.81.Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 05 02 at 07:11 AM • permalink#43. “AFAIK”? Must be true then.
Of course, this is in contrast to all the male Members of Parliament, none of whom have ever shagged a married woman with the exception of their wives…
I had thought the lesson to be learnt from Heffernan’s gaffe was that this sort of crap is unhelpful.
Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 02 at 07:38 AM • permalinkWoah - Habib said something inappropriate?
Careful up there on the high moral ground Abu or you’ll get a nose bleed.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 05 02 at 07:55 AM • permalinkI think Julia is in fact a baroness ... adult, babe, bag, baroness, bitch, broad, butterfly, contessa, countess, dame, doll, duchess, empress, female, gal, gentlewoman, girl, little woman, mama, mare, matron, missus, mistress, noblewoman, old bag, old lady, old woman, petticoat, princess, queen, queen bee, rib, squaw, sultana, weaker sex. Courtesy of Thesaurus.com.
#48 I was wondering if we have a baby troll.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 05 02 at 08:03 AM • permalinkNow that you mention it, Nic, he was pretty damned PC.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 05 02 at 08:12 AM • permalink#52 Nic, I reckon it’s like water off a duck’s back to Habib.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 05 02 at 08:13 AM • permalink#13 Not all gays call straights breeders. Actually, I’ve only heard the word breeders used by people of indeterminate preference who happen to loathe children with a passion.
A particularly virulent passion.
Have a look here for example. Some of these anti-children people are shockers.
I’ve got friends who have chosen not to have kids, and have no empathy for the smaller rugrats whatsoever, but they are nowhere near as nasty as these pieces of work.
Oh, and has for Heffernan? Bloody idiot.Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 05 02 at 08:28 AM • permalinkWhen are Heff’s staffers going to get it right… It’s 3 red pills in the morning, green one for lunch and the blue one in the afternoon. Not the other way around…
Speaking of staffers, I was in conversation with one of Krudd’s staffers the other day (she has no clue about my NeoCon tendencies) and the office is still in denial about the whole sunrise dawn service debacle - what do they need? Does the email need to be tatooed on their foreheads? some of Beazley’s ex staffers are working there too… perhaps they are trying to bring Kevvie down from the inside?
Posted by CanberraNeoCon on 2007 05 02 at 08:43 AM • permalink#10 Thanks so much 1.6!
I personally think I’m engaged to the most wonderful man in the world, but I have no doubt that my opinion is subject to wide debate! You’ll love it when you get pregnant.
The sad thing is, I’m at 25 weeks, I found out for sure at 9 weeks, and I’ve only seen Jesse for about 3 weeks since then :( And now I’m in Brisbane for at least a week while he’s working in Victoria :(
[left mindset] No doubt this is HoWARd or Bushitler’s fault, rather than differing schedules. [/left mindset]
Heff’s comments, although in poor taste, had the side effect of letting us punters know that she has been bonking married men.
I have no problem with her bonking around. I don’t care if she prefers men, women or dwarves with six fingers. But I do know that most of the women of my acquaintance get incandescent with rage when they hear of a woman carrying on with a married man. Root all the single, divorced or separated guys you want, but don’t pick up any that have a wife at home.
I have heard some pretty nasty things said in the past about women like that, so I suspect the gloss of the Rudd/Gillard superteam has just been wiped off with a vengeance.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 05 02 at 09:22 AM • permalinkI do not want “alternative” people of any weirdo persuasion, including having red hair, anywhere near the corridors of power. One day their ratbag ideas are permissable, the next they are compulsory.
Woody Woodpecker Jools stuck her hand up for one of the top jobs, she can cop all the flak that goes with it as far as I’m concerned. There aren’t two sets of rules last time I looked.
Where were all these “deeply concerned” commenters when Janette Howard (who is not an elected or wannabe polly) was being shitcanned for being ‘old fashioned’?
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 05 02 at 09:27 AM • permalink65. tou got it in one! Stuff tintin Herr Flick it is.
My spy on the inside of the ALP (hush hush, all on the Q.T.) managed to smuggle out this pic of Krudd negotiating with Gillard on the finer points of their industrial relations policy
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 05 02 at 09:29 AM • permalinkLOL,nice one, mole. (#65)
You know you are never going to heaven, don’t you?Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 05 02 at 09:34 AM • permalinkWhoops, shoulda been”(#70)”. Perview etc. . .
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 05 02 at 09:35 AM • permalinkAt the weekend a union official - following the example of Rudd, who’d spent all day Saturday ridiculing the Prime Minister with ageist boilerplate - compared John Howard to a stain on a bedsheet. No “outrage” or demand for an apology issued forth from the office of the Opposition Leader. As for Ms Gillard…
The repeatedly stated underpinning of her so-called IR “policy” is that it is “family friendly”; she’s concerned about “family pressures”; but heartless ideologue Howard isn’t so concerned, his policies have “hurt families” - so goes the glib Gillard story. This has been repeated for months. The message is: here is someone who knows what families today really need. Well - sorry to disagree folks - but let’s be brutally honest: Gillard doesn’t have a family. Nor has she ever wanted one. When she trashes the PM’s policies under the rubric of “family”, she doesn’t - in point of fact - know what the hell she’s talking about. Household pressure for Julia is working out what to put in her famously empty fruit bowl.
Is Heffernan an idiot? Indubitably. Was he voicing what a lot of people are thinking? Absolutely. Does anyone here seriously think the Labor Party itself would not ponder very carefully the possibility of electing Ms Gillard leader precisely because of this single/childless issue? If so: get real.
#66 “Bill Heffernan or Wilson Tuckey - who is the bigger fuckwit I wonder?”
Do we have to choose just one? Can’t they BOTH be the biggest?
Although this was an own-goal by Heff., the people who are watching Gillard’s industrial policy (well it’s her portfolio, right?) with dismay are not going to be distracted by any amount of:
“And in todays TOP STORY! Heffernan said a BAD, um-ah! I’m telling!”
Also, he might be trying to put the idea out that she doesn’t have kids and all the “family friendly workplace” guff is some kind of over-compensation, false empathy if you will.
PS: Andrea at #34: Fear is the deepest form of respect, remember that… but I really don’t know that Aussies “fear spinsters”. Certainly doesn’t ring true to me.
What a pity Heffernan and WA Liberal polly Colin Barnett can’t get together and form an official Idiots’ Party instead of contaminating and damaging the Libs with their stupidity.
That said, did anyone ever find out who created the forgeries in the Kirby affair that sent Heffernan over the top?
And that said, what kind of person would actually want Gilliard to breed?
#14 IT
That just cracked me up. I can just see Ms. Gillard quoting you in defence of her heterosexuality.Posted by alien kiwi on 2007 05 02 at 10:22 AM • permalink...perhaps if you have a fetish for Woody Woodpecker, an unusual genre of hentai for sure.
What, you want links?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 05 02 at 10:54 AM • permalink“I apologise to Julia Gillard and anyone else who was offended by my completely inappropriate remarks,” he said.
Another apology that borders on a non-apology. What’s the matter with “my remarks were completely inappropriate and I apologise for making them”? An apology meant only for those poor misguided souls who are foolish enough to be offended, so typical of the political class, is not really an apology. At least not in this deliberately barren woman’s book.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 05 02 at 01:52 PM • permalink#48 and #51: you’ve read me wrong on this.
I’m no lefty - and not a troll (just blunt).
I just think those comments are unhelpful - and I assume that’s what Tim was getting at in his post about “the big idiot”.
Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 05 02 at 05:01 PM • permalinkWild Bill Heffernan is a well known idiot. He is an unguided missile that I don’t think even a guidance system could help. He just goes bang when he feels like it.
Hopefully he will be the sacrifical lamb and can spend the rest of his days on the farm in Junee waiting for it to rain. It would be appropriate for Julie Bishop to be the one to weild the knife.
He has however, lanced the boil and now all sorts of puss about her home wrecking proclivities can seep out, which will do her no good with the mums at home. It was Emerson I think.
As to Habib’s comment I have pointed out before, willing gets 6/10.
I sometimes wonder if Lib/Nat pollies realise the difference in gravity of their situation and ours.
If they stuff this up then they can just have rest in oppostion for a few years, while we have to deal with it and a Labor govt will have a much greater impact on our lives than theirs.
Here in Queensland they certainly didn’t realise the gravity and now we are beset with this blood nut idiot and his mob for another four years.
JWH should view the situation in cricket parlance. We are in the semis now and no silly run outs, dropping of sitter catches or throwing away of wickets will be tolerated.
Suggest very heavy culling between now and the final. Team players only.
#74- I was wondering the same thing - is Heff just the nominated blunt object the Libs use when they want to publically say what everyone is thinking?
As for La Gillard - well, partner at Slater & Gordon. What more do you need to know?
Posted by anonymous guest on 2007 05 02 at 07:01 PM • permalinkFirstly, Heffo is a boofhead.
But consider which is the bigger crime:
(a) a silly old duffer on the backbench who’ll never be a Minister making an inappropriate sexist remark;
OR
(b) the potential Deputy Prime Minister of Australia telling business that they will get it in the neck if they do anything to oppose Labor’s IR laws?
Get some perspective here people!!
Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 05 02 at 07:07 PM • permalinkSecondly, Heff was just being polite.
What he could have said is:
“Julia Gillard is an inappropriate person to be Deputy Prime Minister because she is a bisexual predator. She broke up Craig Emerson’s marriage and got slapped down in the Holy Grail when, after too much alcohol, she made inappropriate advances to a fellow Labor female MP. Both occasions demonstrate that she has extremely poor judgement for a public figure in whom great responsibility would be placed.”
Posted by Apparatchik on 2007 05 02 at 07:11 PM • permalinkThe PM’s special friend has done you all a great service, revealing your true and honest feelings. But I can’t understand all these calls applauding his cowardly apology. Surely you wouldn’t want him to back down? That would be soooooooooooooo politically correct of you all. What happened to the right to free speech that was ushered in by your favorite fishwife, Pauline? After all it’s a free country.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2007 05 02 at 08:15 PM • permalinkHeffernan is a fool, and a rude fool: there’s no place for this kind of crassness in public or private life. Having said that, Julia’s comeback - not that she should have needed to make one - was the tired old trope about Howard’s mythical nostalgia for the 50s. As other commenters have already noted, what could be more retrograde than the bread-and-dripping cloth-cap valve-radio IR world which she promises to return us to? I’m surprised she didn’t have a colliery band at the ALP conference.
The PM’s special friend has done you all a great service, revealing your true and honest feelings. But I can’t understand all these calls applauding his cowardly apology. Surely you wouldn’t want him to back down? That would be soooooooooooooo politically correct of you all. What happened to the right to free speech that was ushered in by your favorite fishwife, Pauline? After all it’s a free country.
I ran this through Babelfish, from Leftie to English:
blah blah blah yawn snark mutter mutter groan scratch fart yawn blah blah blah bark bark WOO HOO! yadda yadda yadda yadda moo ACHOO! meow @%!#!#(^$#@$ belch fart snark arf arf arf arf. After all it’s a free country.
Much better!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 05 02 at 08:54 PM • permalinkJules has accepted Heff’s apology, prolly to cover up the open sore ASAP.
#65 Did the poor lass have whipmarks (from working in Herr Flick’s office)?
No but she had problems straightening her head from tilting it too often and severe scarring on her back from where all the knives have been shoved (she is an ex Beazley staffer). They have a whole bunch of Beazley’s left overs doing shit all because they couldn’t be sacked when Rudd arrived as that would have been more fodder for the Lib IR rebuttal.
Posted by CanberraNeoCon on 2007 05 03 at 06:35 AM • permalink
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Classic own goal. Gillard was on the ropes and Hef has given her a lifeline.
What a complete and utter tosser.