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ART FOR ART’S SAKE
I’m in New York City, for no reason at all other than to expand my carbon footprint. It’s a performance art piece, really; similar in a way to this:
A Chorus of Women will use drama, poetry and music to create an emotional response to climate change ...
My own “emotional response” will shortly take me to the trailer park home of Iowahawk, and thereafter to the carbon killing fields of Bonneville, Utah. Speed Week pictures promised.
#240
re 10-15% - does it matter?Refer #225
(Devil’s advocate?) putting things into context following the promsiscuity/rape screed from the previous page.
I.e. neither male nor female humans are ‘saintly’, that’s the case I’m making, My Lord ... I’m not a lawyer seeking a ‘remedy’.Ash? mentioned it was being appealed
?#2: Personally, with respect to Illinois politicians, I’m rather partial to that tower of integrity, “Big Bill” Thompson, a man who, with the assistance of Al Capone, could be said to have enjoyed, if not grass roots support, at least, the support of the man who did no much to nourish grass roots.
For crying out loud, Intervention plans ‘in some ways genocide.’
Idiot’s complaining that the federal gov’t Northern Territory intervention will wipe out Aboriginal culture.
Like kiddy rape?
Thanks ladies, but im actually v-boring person whos been around a few interesting times/places/people.
Much rather read a new hardboiled detetive novel from Mr Paco.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 06 at 10:52 PM • permalinkhttp://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22200392-662,00.html
Paco, he’s copying our T-shirt idea now!
#4
devil’s advocate? Sounds more like you’re talking in circles. Pointless. Don’t argue with me when we’re on the same side.
If you have a point to make, by all means, make it. If you want to share information for enlightenment, please do.
But don’t argue pointlessly with me. I don’t need it.rape screed + deceptive paternity?
Yeah, they go together.
However Paco should avoid this case at all costs.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 06 at 11:02 PM • permalink#6 paco
Who is Al Capone?...:).
#7 yojimbo
What possible relationship do you see between the Daley grandson and ....Gary Cooper?
None. Hey, at least I’m honest about it.
Hot enough for you in TN.? Supposed to last for awhile. Stay hydrated.
Cripes is it ever. Did some work on my upper deck, followed by two days of golf. Most that know me personally say, I’m nuts. I’m beginning to believe the validity of their point of view.
I say, I must have lost the, er, thread, so to speak. What the devil is up with all this chatter about paternity suits, paternity testing, and so forth? If I didn’t know better - and I don’t - some of you fellers are looking mighty . . . I dunno . . . nervous.
#28: That one gave me a chuckle, Frollicking!
#22 I don’t know how the long-term cultural ramifications of Howard’s plan will evolve. My main beef with this bloke is his total misuse of ‘genocide’. No matter how much you wrangle the word, it just doesn’t fit this situation.
But then he wouldn’t be the first person trying to rewrite the dictionary. Lefties do it all the time. Take an issue, identify a flaw, then call it something monstrously worse in order to validate your argument. Works a treat.
I’m also tired of the constant, overwrought efforts to preserve culture in general. Never throughout human history has such an effort been made to maintain the past for present and future. In fact, without mankind’s endless pursuit of progress, we’d have little to none of the historical advances which actually - but retrospectively - create ‘culture’ in the first place.
By all means, hang on to the good bits. But this adulation of culture for culture’s sake is simply time-wasting.
(Hey, I’ve almost brought the thread back to it’s original topic).
#50 I thought it was uncalled for. He had a complaint to make and he made it here - fair enough (though I doubt he could have been more inflammatory about it if he’d tried).
But besmirching the entire blog over at Bolta’s wasn’t very nice. Maybe it was unintentional, but hey, with friends commenting like that, who needs Miranda?
#51 That’s very true Dminor. Like Texas Bob said, it wasn’t so much the complaint that bothered me, it was the thinly veiled personal attacks.
I like to think (and correct me if I’m wrong) I tried to respond to Jack’s complaints politely and receptively.
Jack has some very interesting things to say, such as in his earlier comments with Paco about dams, but I certainly don’t think we’re all bad.
Though, I’m one of the main people involved in what Jack identified as problems.
Deep philosophical ponderings begin…..now.
Re the issue of rape on the gene pool. Think of the effect the prior wars have had on the gene pool at large. One could argue that some marriages were forced, in a sense, due to the fact that women were forced to marry, marry persons that they would not have married had the wars not taken place. One could argue that that was a massive shift in the gene pool.
No double-blind study is possible of course, but one has to wonder what effect this has had on history in general. Would a different marriage result in the birth of a child that would have discovered a cure for cancer-or even the common cold! The opposite could also be true. Possibly a person that is on the verge of doing something great may never have been born.
Would cyberspace be different if a Gates or a Jobs were never born because their mothers married someone else?Or not! I’m going to go back to sucking on that butterscotch sucker from Sees.
51 Dminor
I thought it was uncalled for. He had a complaint to make and he made it here - fair enough (though I doubt he could have been more inflammatory about it if he’d tried).
As Andrea noted in a post, he who/whom shall remain nameless could take his DAM comments anywhere he chose. In fact she practically escorted the unmentionable, to the DAM door.
He, who/whom accuses others of besmirching, should look in the DAM mirror, first.
Bagdhad Liar Scott Beauchamp Recants!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 08 07 at 12:31 AM • permalinkRe questioned fatherhood, the State of California is way ahead of the curve, in its usual twisted way.
The married and co-habitating husband is legally father of the child, period.
AND he can’t sue wifey for fraud in case of “wrongful” child support payments made after a divorce.Problem solved by legislation, LOL.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 08 07 at 12:34 AM • permalink#66 Harry
all the more reason to have the test done early!I think that rule applies here. Any child born in wedlock is the child of the male spouse.
It might get a bit difficult with surrogacy, but let’s not go there.
And it’s been proved by the previously mentioned High Court case that the husband can’t get any money back for children who aren’t his.
#228
10-15% isnt a guess its a statistic and everyone knows that 98% of all statistics are made up.
There is a great book called the 7 daughters of Eve which explains how everyone in the world of native european decent can be traced back to 7 women through mitocondrial dna its a very interesting read if anyone is interested I think its by Bryan Sykes
#91 I think it’s reasonable to expect that the figures we’re given for any problem is ome that can be verified.
If the 10-15% figure you’ve given (which is pretty much off the top of your head) is right, then that seems much higher than I would think. But if it’s as prevailant as you think, then it would be easily verifiable, but nothing of use appears on Google or any kind of academic journal.
Have you any other sources?
I just searched the Uni Databases and I couldnt find anything that would varify those figures either however I dont really see how it matters very much. I mean really you are not just a product of your genetics you are also a product of your environment and upbringing.
All my bad qualities are products of my genetics and all my good qualities are products of my environment and upbringing.
If only my I got my thighs from my upbringing damn it
#99 I’ve checked the links. Every one of them says that they are not exactly correct, because they didn’t ask outright if the father of the baby really was the father.
Now, forget the idea that you’re the messenger. You are not, you are simply using their research to give your ideas plausibility. I’m not Killaette either. Well done on your deduction, that should make the rest of the explaining easier.
1. NO woman who is raped is asking for it. They may act in a fashion to give the idea some theory, but they still don’t want any action.
2. A woman who is promiscuous knows the risks and accepts them.
3. A woman in a stable relationship knows the risks and accepts them.
4. A woman who is raped has no opportunity to learn the risks, nor accept them.
5. A woman who is raped feels ashamed.
6. A woman who is raped feels dirty and disgusted.
7. A woman who is promiscuous may feel this way, but she knows the risk.
8. A woman who is promiscuous has the opportunity to know the risks, and makes sure she is protected against pregnancy.
its not really a question - basically there is this little man who writes a lot of stuff. He is a narcisist and consequently wants us to read all these articles that he has written and if he didnt write them he is reference a lot in them.
Then basically we just have to write a critical analysis based on our views. I am having trouble because I cant get passed the fact that he seems to be obsessed with himself. Very self indulgent, narcisistic and repetitive
#112 pickles :)
#102
Wow!
I told a female friend (reading this thread) that there would be a cat amongst the pigeons.
Here we go on the emo moralising crap, once again, FFS ...Do you deny the validity of the blood testing ... the 30% figure?
Why all the protest?
Qualitative or quantitative: 5/10/...30%?
What’s the big deal, a gender attack?
I’m trying to relay that there is info re substantial female infidelity ... don’t like that?
Have I made any vast judgements?
My point is that humans are brutish ... including the ‘fairer sex’ ... get used to it!
It’s for the benefit of: This page has been viewed 153101 times ... not one or two posters, FFS.
#119
Egg, I’m happy to debate you, but we’re clearly not on the same level.
You are taking rape as a biological view, which I am not. I am taking it as in invasion of another person’s space and safety. It is the most disgusting invasion of one’s person that I can imagine.
I’m not debating the 10-15% figure, I’d just like to see something that is complete, and gained by scientific methods. Every figure you’ve linked to agrees with those numbers, but fails to say whether they’ve gained them through scientific figures, or how those figures were gained.
Yes, some females commit infidelity. So do males. What on earth has that got to do with rape?
#119 Ok Egg_, here it is, point by point.
Yes, there will always be a cat among the pigeons when there is a thread about rape. Same as I would expect a male to appear to defend males.I don’t recall the link to 30%, please re-link. However, to the 10-15% links, they themselves say that their research is not complete and is unable to be relied on. If they admit their research shouldn’t be relied on, why should I rely on it?
There is no gender attack. I know that some women are not as careful as they should be, but neither are some males. It takes two people to make a child.
I’m trying to relay that there is info re substantial female infidelity ... don’t like that?
I’m quite pleased with it, but you seem to fail to realise that some males cheat too.
Yes, you’ve made judgements. And yes, many people have viewed this page.
Oh my dear, nurse bring me my medication. A man has tied in the communist USA with the decision to bomb japan back in WW2.
And its all part of a Zionist plot.
Someone tell me this is parody. Surely someone this stupid would have died from ear-wax buildup or something?
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 07 at 04:07 AM • permalinkit is very upsetting to me that I have been gone for a couple of hours and still the debate about 10-15% continues.
So here it is. No one is denying that women cheat. No one is denying that there are kids out there whos father is really not their father and furthermore no one is denying that the 10-15% thing is wrong.
What is being said however is that the statistics are not based on a conclusive well rounded study and therefore the statistics can not really represent an adequate sample of the population and should not be viewed as such
Get it yet????
#120 & #122
we’re clearly not on the same level
Youch again!
Precisely, I am working from the highest level ... the reason for the drives ... you are down at the personal/psychological level.#102 I’ve checked the links.
#120 I don’t recall the link to 30%
Please have the courtesy of fully reading the thread or you’ll weaken your case.‘Low comprehension’ was a comment from this side (not mine).
Men show infidelity, too ... of course, apparently more so.
Men are raped, too.
But they don’t get pregnant ... I’m talking about genetics.3rd time I’ve asked this question: what figure is credible for ‘false paternity’ for want of a better word?
oh and egg_ my browser is set to refresh every 3 minutes so technically in 1 hour I would have been responsible for at least 20 of those views plus all the times I posted and it refreshed plus all the times I hit refresh.
Plus what about all those people who got here by accident while looking for photos of Tim in the nude on the internet?
Ok i admit there are others reading this blog but Im thinking that most of them agree with us as none have bothered to come to your aid…......
#15, Dminor,
My husband told me that he was talking to man who has lived up here for a very long time and this guy told him that, in his youth, Ah Kit identified as Asian and took the Asian side in various altercations with Aborigines. It seems there might have been something a little pragmatic about his Aboriginalisation.
Now that was just gossip and may not be true but I know from personal experience that there are problems. For instance, I met an Aboriginal woman who had rejected her child simply because the father was part Asian. She did not want to be mother to such a child.
That might have had something to do with messing up the kinship moieties and skin relationships so that people don’t know where they stand (what obligations are owed to them, what obligations they owe) in relation to a person whose father doesn’t come from within that web of relationships. And that appears to be one reason why, in the past, children born of white fathers were so often abandoned and had to be taken into care or, in the current jargon, stolen.
Right now, thinking about the fact that no culture is static, I’m inclined to think that Ah Kit’s ignorant, but populist, statement about genocide is reasonable enough evidence to support the idea that my husband’s informant was telling the truth. Or maybe Ah Kit is just a dimwit.
#128
no one is denying that the 10-15% thing is wrong
?What is being said however is that the statistics are not based on a conclusive well rounded study and therefore the statistics can not really represent an adequate sample of the population and should not be viewed as such
Some grist for the stats millers:
Wiki: Paternity fraud
Paternity fraud statistics for Australia provided on a TV show aired by the Australian Broadcasting Company stated that for the year 2003 more than 3,000 DNA paternity tests were ordered by men in Australian, and in almost a 25% of those cases, the paternity test revealed that the children they thought were theirs were actually sired by another man.
Which is prolly skewed, as they are suspicous.Mommy’s little secret
Carolyn Abraham, The Globe and Mail’s medical reporter.
It’s now widely accepted among those who work in genetics that roughly 10 per cent of us are not fathered by the man we believe to be dad. Geneticists have stumbled upon this phenomenon in the course of conducting large population studies and hunting for genes that cause diseases such as cystic fibrosis.#130
Ok i admit there are others reading this blog but Im thinking that most of them agree with us as none have bothered to come to your aid…......From an earlier thread, I anticipate that no male with a strong sense of self preservation will risk the wrath of (some of) the females.
Your life experience consists of?
IIRC none of the females who have expressed angst are mums (yet), correct?Re: adultery
1. Men have always done it more often than women but women are catching up.
2. It has nothing to do with rape.
3. I think youse guys are talking at cross purposes.
Finally, I told my husband years ago that if I ever discovered he was cheating on me I’d do whatever was legally possible to destroy him, or at least make him suffer exquisitely. He said he would do the same to me if the situation was reversed. So we understand each other and everything’s been just peachy between us ever since.
#132
Egg, I’m prepared to give you a chance, but everything you’ve said today makes me think you’re a scumbag.
You’re saying you’re acting from a higher level to the rest of us. Bullshit. In fact, you’re already saying that no men hear have a sense of themselves. That’s garbage, most of them know all about themselves.
#133, as usual, you’re fucking wrong.
I had my neice in my custody for three years, and I did everything I could to make life easy for her.
The man has a right to know before the child is born but, when he’s loved and supported the child sometimes for years before he finds out, he’s in a horrible position. The sense of loss for both man and child must be overwhelming.
Surely the mother should face some consequence other than embarrassment for the unspeakable, and lasting, injury she’s caused all around. But what? Any real consequence, like jail time, would also have a profound effect on the child. For “not-Dad” to go after financial recompense is too like returning unwanted goods for a refund.
Buggered if I can think of a suitable punishment that doesn’t also punish the child. Any ideas? Anyone?
Read a really interesting article today on Adam and Eve and their eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The guy that wrote it said that one of the points being made in the story of the Fall was that we should not try to find guides for our own morality in the natural world. Hadn’t thought of that before but, for an example of that kind of thinking, see egg_’s last link @ #132.
That we should not look for the basis of our morality in nature seems reasonable to me. After all, however “unfaithful” female monkeys, birds, or whatever might be it’s a sure bet that the putative monkey, bird or whatever fathers are not particularly worried about the financial losses they might incur in raising offspring that are not genetically theirs. And as far as the offspring are concerned, what do they care who’s their father?
But human beings are different. Being made in the image of God they are made for relationships and want those to be good. Human children do want to know who their father is and that their father cares for them. Human fathers do want to know that they’re being treated with love and respect by their woman and not merely as a convenient source of cash to finance the costs of her promiscuity.
If these possibilities worry you I recommend that you become a Christian and marry a Christian. The odds against being cheated on aren’t perfect but they are very, very much better than secularists can offer. It’s the old three stranded cord thing (you, me and God). Much stronger than a cord that only has you and me strands.
#135 - Janice, this has been an interesting thread & I’m sorry I haven’t time to read every post…but just to comment on your points here, too many women now take “Women are catching up” as something to brag about. I think adultery is bad for the soul. It cheapens us & robs us of dignity & self-respect. And here I do speak from experience, unfortunately.
Thanks for your comments.
#140. Well in old Mauritius they’d have branded her, but I guess that’d be out o’ the question nowadays, huh?
I agree, it’s a thorny one. There’s no doubt that in these circumstances a significant deception has been committed against innocent parties. It clearly calls for much more than ‘lofty distain’, but what? Any excoriation also hurts the child(ren), as does material recompense.
#142, KC,
I do speak from experience, unfortunately
Me too. I could have forgiven my first husband for his lies and his failure to provide a home for him, me and the baby. But the screwing around he apparently wanted me to forgive him for was too much. I’ve never been able to understand people who remain “friends” after that sort of betrayal.
sadly, janice, most cords these days only have a ‘me’ strand.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 08 07 at 07:03 AM • permalinkMother Gaia gave Sacramento a frosty kiss this weekend - Coldest August 5th and 6th since record keeping began in 1877 - and she gave Al Gore a knee in the balls.
Posted by papertiger on 2007 08 07 at 07:43 AM • permalinkGlobal cooling - it’s not just for Oz anymore.
Posted by papertiger on 2007 08 07 at 07:44 AM • permalink#147
“We think we live in a big world but it’s really smaller than you think,” Brockovich told local media on Monday.
Yes. Infantile. Goo-goo ga-ga.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 08 07 at 07:45 AM • permalinkBy Their Actions Shall Ye Know Them.
Mullahs and Adherents Show What They Are Made Of ......Coming into the debate on rape/infidelity and stats somewhat cold, I know a couple of blokes who suspect that their children may not be their biological offspring, but decline the dna testing.
They don’t want to poison their relationships with their children.
DNA is important in parenting, but it’s not the only thing.
And infidelity or promiscuity do not equate to deserving rape.
As someone who’s been a victim of damned near all of the above, I’d like to say, Egg, that maybe if you chose your words and examples with a bit more care, you might not get slapped down as much.
Statistically, I know plenty of people of both genders who will openly admit to cheating on their spouse or partner. I find that attitude appalling, but given the sexualisation of all human relationships these days, I don’t find it surprising.
Just very, very disappoointing.
I’m with Janice. These days, I find that those who seem to be on the same moral page as myself tend to be christians, so any potential partner of mine had better brush up on his Gospels.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 08 07 at 07:50 AM • permalinkGo to http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/010892.php
Read about missing balls.Posted by stackja1945 on 2007 08 07 at 07:52 AM • permalink155. The UK just lost theirs again.
“The Foreign Secretary and the Home Secretary have decided to request the release from Guantanamo Bay and return to the UK of five men who, whilst not UK nationals, were legally resident here prior to their detention,” it said.
They came to the UK as refugees and left to fight for scum before their claims were even processed. The UK is rooted.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 07 at 08:01 AM • permalink#155 gosh. just gosh.
I mean, there have got to be easier ways to join the Democratic Party, aren’t there?
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 08 07 at 08:04 AM • permalinkMr. Bingley,
Nah hes only 1/2 way there. They have to seal his arse up as well for that one.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 07 at 08:08 AM • permalinkfrollick, do they seal it before or after the head is inserted?
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 08 07 at 08:16 AM • permalinkMr. Bingley
Im not sure, check this picture and tell me.
I think its to keep all the crap in.
“As long as you can fake sincerity, youve got it made.”
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 08 07 at 08:22 AM • permalinkThis still has my head spinning, from the States standpoint.
Freed Aussie won’t give up Net teen lover
#169 I thought he was far more special than he actually is, but I like it that I learned that early.
The more I hear about his life now, the more grateful I am that I’m not part of it. *Lefty,cough,cough,lefty,cough!*
Let’s just say that I consumed those four bottles of port in February. I regret them now though.
Do lefty gamers have that much intelligence? Just the expression “lefty gamers” seems like an oxymoron.
Time to drag another one out of the Ash Files. Paco will love this.
Ash was about four at the time, and many words were in Italian, although some were not. Ash’s dad mentioned something, followed by the words, and not in order “Ash” and “Oxymoron”. Big, brave Ash, well, she burst into tears and protested that she “wasn’t a moron, Daddy, I’m very clever, Uncle Maritz says so)”!!!”
Oh man, Paco’s gonna love the Cookie Jar story!
on this appalling chorus of women thing, suggest we all go to julie bishop’s feedback page & ask why the science budget is being wasted on such crap. at least the cardigan responsible will be forced to prepare a response, taking time away from arranging to fund the patagonian nose flute orchestra & dance collective performance of the moving piece john howard kills & eats baby bilbys
#145 - Ash, I’ve got experience from both sides, & cheating’s not good for anyone. My favorite line in those days was “Anything he can do, I can do better.” It was helpful for a bit, but I soon had a tough time facing myself in the mirror. So I started again. I quit trying to make something I knew was wrong sound like it was right. Eventually I came to forgive both of us for being the imperfect, flawed humans we are. My life today wouldn’t be what it is if I hadn’t been there, if he hadn’t set me on the path that brought me my wonderful Chief & Lovely Daughter (& soon-to-be Best Grandchild in the World), with a pretty cool Handsome Son-in-Law thrown in for good measure.
Lucky for me, there were no children from that first marriage, so it was simpler to let bygones be bygones.
The only one hurt by me holding a grudge is me. It’s like drinking poison & expecting the other guy to die.
john howard kills & eats baby bilbys
KK, I need to get tickets to that. It must be an awesome comedy piece. But as to the bilbys, well, all well meaning leftists know that!
#179 See what I mean about learning to count? It’s rather obvious, once I inform everyone that I actually meant #177, not #117. I must really focus on my numbers!
I do, indeed, love the cookie jar story.
On the subject of eating hats (an experience in which I have, unfortunately, had to indulge on a number of occasions, because of the combination of sporting blood and bad luck), may I recommend the straw hat over the wool or fur felt variety? They’re easier to get down, and are actually good roughage.
#180 Call me vindictive, KC, but I like:
It’s like drinking poison & expecting the other guy to die.
My main problem is that I’m trying to remember all the qualities that attracted me to him, but with each day, I remember less and less of them.
He had a wicked sense of humour, and he used to make me laugh just with a wink and a smile.
And when he decided to read Achewood? I didn’t even get a look in. Ray Smuckles is just far too competition for li’l ole me!
Paco, it’s not mine, so help yourself! I use it on myself SO much.
Ash, it took awhile for me to remember what I loved about the man I was so disgusted with. He must’ve had good qualities, right? Well, he did & I’m a big enough girl now to admit that we had a mutually INTERESTING life together. Takes 2 to tango, also takes 2 to fight like cats & dogs.
Wouldn’t want to besmirch your reputation, yojimbo.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 08 07 at 11:22 AM • permalink198 KC
Most welcome, dear lady.
You’d think women of our age would have left these little ego trips behind, wouldn’t you? We’re still a bunch of 11-year-olds at heart!
Well, you have THE ‘men’ outgunned…WE are still in the 5 year old range.
OH! What is this “Sarcasm” you speak of, never heard the term?...:).
#191 Aw phooey! Content removed for breach of terms of use.
Too bad you didn’t get to see it. It was a brilliantly done, funny animated video of a duel between Sir Dingleberry and the Marquis du Man-Strumpet for the affections of the dull-eyed but well-racked lady of the manor, who ended up in the bushes with the butler anyway.
Finally getting to this…
Jack from Montreal is just dying to get banned from here. I mean, if we aren’t good enough for him, why stay? So he can slander a bunch of people he doesn’t know on another website?
I don’t know what his problem is, but it isn’t mine.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 08 07 at 11:54 AM • permalink200 RebeccaH
Sir Dingleberry
Ahemmm. Did I ever give you my definition of Dingleberry?....errr, never mind, some may find it offense. BUT who cares, huh?
I use to here that term to describe, bits of toilet tissue left in A certain part of the human anatomy, after one….nevermind.
Hey, enjoy the veal, I’ll be here all week.
el cid, i was told that the term originated in reference to a Liverpool slum called the Dingle…
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 08 07 at 12:04 PM • permalinkYou know, there are few things in life more annoying than a dentist with a sense of humor.
News Headline
“Georgia:Russia Jets Dropped Missile”
We let that new French President over here for a few days and look what happens!
Sure hope it didn’t get Augusta. For darn sure it didn’t hit western Georgia. Those Rooskies know better than to try and tag Fort Benning. I’ll try and effort an answer on this.
202 Andrea
Jack from Montreal is just dying to get banned from here. I mean, if we aren’t good enough for him, why stay? So he can slander a bunch of people he doesn’t know on another website?
To be serious* for a moment…This person is a smug egotistical bastard. HE wants this website run his way, Nothing else will do. I have no doubt that has has sent of flurry of emails to Tim.
What act or acts HE has performed on other websites, I don’t know, nor do I care…but it no doubt shows stupidity and a lack of class, a diametrically opposed view, as to what HE thinks, of HIMSELF.
Were it MY Blog, I would have told this person to shit in his hat…if this person didn’t have a hat…I’d by one for him. BUT, it is no more MY Blog, then it is HIS.
*If I’m going to be “Serious”, someone else can play, Roebuck. I think it a great name for…say stores.
Up until now, jlc or Jack from Montreal seemed like just a regular, semi-sane (like the rest of us) commenter, but apparently a bug has got up his ass recently. I’m not sure if it’s all of us, or just one or two of us, that have set him off. In any case, this is Tim Blair’s blog, and it’s up to him to decide which comments are acceptable, and which are not. If Tim or Andrea tell me to stop taking up space here, I will. Until then, J from M can put up with it or go elsewhere.
In the meantime, I’m off to try and find another funny video to cheer myself up with.
#153
And infidelity or promiscuity do not equate to deserving rape
Who said they did?maybe if you chose your words and examples with a bit more care
In light of the above, good advice for all of us?
Perhaps it’s a bitter pill?BTW my friend said that you misconstrued Lumby in your quote (she saw the program).
She also pointed out that Andrea was the only woman who addressed this issue without moralising/personalising ...... and that I had shown a great deal of restraint with the junior posters.
I used to discuss such contentious issues on the science sites, but I guess in ‘spleenville’ it will always bog down to personalised whining about issues?
I was going to post about male rape in institutions (not just jail ... or do crims ‘deserve’ rape?) ... but maybe I’ll get slapped down by a sub-30 y.o., eh? :)
Janice
Pious or not, Christianity’s global popularity is prolly due to the fact that it’s a great set of ethics.
Looking to Nature for guidance?
Isn’t Gaia/(God) the guiding principle of Nature ... Einstein’s ‘God does not play dice with the universe’... i.e. there are guiding laws/principles ... but Man has free will to chose between alternate paths?
The Church has contributed much to (scientific) enlightenment - Gregor Mendel is the father of Genetics.#226
You are acting like a spoiled brat.
In ‘first life’, are you aware of who your superiors in this place are? We’re all equals in ‘second life’?
You’re on the verge of becoming a mother, how’s the curve balls life’s been throwing you going so far?
It’s the mettle of a person as to how they deal with them.
Others here are on the verge of becoming grandparents (self), some are already grandparents; you are heedless of others’ life experience to your peril.
I have been put in my pace and taken it on the chin by my superiors here several times, but yourself?
We predicted that, like a little terrier/princess*, you would not know when to STFU.
Were you not the subject of one of Jack’s gripes?*Jesse’s term.
#227 And you are acting like a man who can’t bear to think that he may come off second best in a discussion.
I’m aware of my superiors, but I have the view that most of us are equal.
The curve balls thrown at me are doing just fine, thank you.
You have no idea of my experiences, to which I’ve alluded to countless times, yet you deign to tell me that I’m heedless of other’s life experience? I do my best to be aware and sensitive to others’ situations, but I can only do so with the very limited information we all share with each other.
By the way, the term Jesse used was Wog Princess, and he meant it as a term of affection.
I just thought I would add something at this juncture as i figure no one will bother posting anything in here now there is another open thread. It may mean I get the last word in.
Who the hell do you think you are egg_ you assume things about people that you dont know and have had limited dealings with in cyberspace.
I have more respect for Ash_ (who may be under 30) than I do for you who seems to be constantly hiding your own comments behind the guise of “BTW my friend said” and “My friend thinks”
Talk about juniors GROW UP. If you really had something legitimate to say you would not only say it you would own it and it wouldnt matter how psycological people got with it you would have the information, facts and resources to back it up without making personal stabbs at people.
It seems to me that you are simply and aged person with unresolved issues and may I also point out that no one was having a personal dig at you - you started that!!!!!!!
#230
Would you like a Nic & Nora style of post?
The other party is less refreigned than myself.
I’m sure there are many more who lurk here than post, who are following the discussion: thanks for the page refresh info, I happen to work in the ICT industry, but you’d know that as you thoroughly read the threads, right?Example:
Ash’s lack of awareness of the ‘30%’ false paternity figure (#122 p.2).
Friend says low comprehension, I say so arrogant: didn’t bother to read the thread - I credit her with brains but arrogance, friend the reverse - take your pick.aged person
You could be insulting a lotta ppl here: what would you put the median age in this blog at?
Ages of some of the regulars:
El Cid
Texas Bob
Paco
Andrea
TimB, forbid
Hmmm?I’m not refined, nor do I refrain from saying what I’m thinking, most of the time. That is obvious, nor is it a secret.
Your friend and yourself must both be MENSA candidates, because when I go to comment 122 on page 2, I find a comment from Paco. I was not aware of the 30% false paternity figure, nor do I believe it. It assumes that three in ten women have cheated on their partner and conceived from that adultery. I doubt the figure is that high, and I doubt that any woman would admit to cheating.
“Aged person” – another big yawn Egg. The aged person line was merely a reference to you stating that those under-30 don’t have valid opinions. Well, if that applies, why should us under-30’s believe that those over 30 have a valid opinion?
Actually as you were referring to Ash_ as a junior blogger I was just assuming that you yourself must be an aged blogger. Maybe you need to watch out who you might be insulting when you let rip with those fingers of yours.
I will listen to you when you have something rational, factual, interesting and supported to say until then I am dismissing you and your comments as annoyances.
Please feel free to continue this thread as I wont be reading it and will not be bothered responding to any more of your drivel
#122 p.3 - typo - I was waiting for a cheap shot: were you set-up? :)
Perhaps I qualify for MENSA* membership, do you?I was not aware of the 30% false paternity figure
It appears that you still haven’t bothered to read the thread, more arrogant than I suspected.
What if lurkers have, and noted it, don’t give a flying f…, eh?Yawn
A juvenile classic! :)
How’s the tag-team thing going, anyway?From the ‘aged person’ tag team, friend emailed a response:
‘It seems today’s youngsters not only are full of arrogance and have no respect for their elders, they also can’t read or understand what they read. There seems to be a drastic shortfall in our education and value system. And the final word is “DITTO” my dear. Don’t throw stones when you are living in a glass house.’
She’s better ejumacated than I and is thinking about a login (I say stick to first life, it aint worth the trouble).
Of course, I’ll be accused of being a crazy ole man and it’s my own words, right? :)*But I’m still trying to figure out (as others have remarked):
SC430 + Prado + Unlimited house budget?Issues?
Some sure have.
What’s this deserve rape shite?I hope this stuff stays on servers for posterity for quite some time ...
Actually, I do qualify for MENSA membership, but it doesn’t really matter anyway.
I have read the thread, but I don’t have unlimited time to read every article ever linked to. I’ve said that right from the start.
What tag-team thing?
I’m not arrogant, I have a self-awareness, but I am not arrogant. I also have significant respect for my elders, but hey, since you’ve never said your age, I can’t classify you as my elder, can I? You’ll find that I’m quite willing to tell my elders that they’re wrong if I know for a fact they are. My elders know a lot, and I have a lot to learn from them, but I also have standards of whom I will follow.
SC430 + Prado + Unlimited house budget?
That’s easy. I inherited a lot of money the day I turned 18, so I bought the house and the SC430. After working for five years, I bought the Prado with money I’d saved. Not that that matters either.
If posting here “ain’t worth the trouble”, why do you stick around?
Oh, and the “deserve rape” shite, you said it mate. You asked if criminals deserve rape. No, they certainly do not. No one does.
#237
Oh, and the “deserve rape” shite, you said it mate.Nilk initially referred to ‘deserve rape’, mine was a question ... so be careful you aren’t guilty of a ‘Dowdism’.
I’ll remind you yet again, there are others reading this thread.
I’ll call you on the MENSA, too.I don’t have unlimited time to read every article ever linked to
It was also pasted into the thread and kae discussed it, too: strike three on that one, I’m afraid.#238 egg_
Mate, you are obviously much more informed than me, and I dare say, better educated, but for f*cks’ sake, you are sounding like someone who advocates rape (albeit in certain cases), and is espousing that ‘genetic perogatives’ cause men to commit such crimes.
Sorry, as a dumb thirty something male, please enlighten me?
I’m all for someone having a torch to carry (I have several burning my arse as we speak / type / whatever) but you seem obsessed with rape and female fidelity?
I have been unfaithful, in my past, as have been several of my partners(to me).
I have also looked at at least a few thousand women and thought ‘I’d tap that’.
Am I now a rapist? are those women who cheated on me (or myself) just driven by organic chemical reaction?
People are people, and sometimes, they surprise, disappoint, and amaze you. Get used to it mate, it’s the human race.
Oh, and I’m not trying to be personal, that’s just how a dumbass Aussie man sees this stuff. :)Oh, and as for the:
SC430 + Prado + Unlimited house budget?Mate, I have a ute, and will inherit all of the family property, as well as it’s debts. Does that mean that my wanting my kids not to live on breakfast cereal and wearing cast offs from their cousins like I had to make me a consumption whore?
Yes, I earn a good wage, and I actually earn it, by the way. It doesn’t match up to a bloke who sits in an office all day and his risks in life are walking in front of a bus. Every day I (and a whole lot of others) risk our lives as part of work. Do you? Don’t knock it if we want our kids to have more than we have, and not have to be fixing someone’s roof, working on a power pole, or dodging IEDs.
That, I would think, is the natural protective instict of a parent?
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