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ARGUMENTS BORING

The Australian’s editorial criticism of the Left displeases Tim Dunlop:

Frankly, these sorts of ideological arguments are boring ...

So boring, frankly, that Dunlop wrote 1263 words in reply. Jeremy Sear kicked in another 1400 or so (in a post notable for the former-anonyblogger’s complaint that the Australian’s editorials are anonymous) and Lefty Kim offered 534 further words of loud denunciation (a happier review may be found here).

Of course, Tim, Kim, and Jeremy read those editorials online for free; imagine how annoyed they’d be if they were drained of $750 million per year to fund ideological views they opposed. Anyway, following recent leftoid howls over alleged silencing, this Dunlop line is interesting:

And it is always the usual suspects, David Marr, Robert Manne, Phillip Adams, blah, blah, blah. Frankly, I’d be happy to never to read another word by any of them ever again ...

He wants them silenced! Dunlop is finally getting with the sinister Murdoch program.

(By the way, Tim seems to be saying “frankly” a lot these days. It must be an Adelaide thing.)

Posted by Tim B. on 06/16/2007 at 06:49 AM
  1. Why do people who try to be anonymous denounce the right of others to try to be anonymous?

    Or is it something I’ll never understand?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 16 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  2. Nah, Tim, Tim saying “frankly” is also a Perth thing!
    I have been converting a few of my work mates to the anti Gerbil Wormening side recently, and have been quietly successful (but, shush, don’t tell them).

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  3. Interesting that The Australian allows online reader replies to columnists such as Price and Albrechtson, despite snide remarks about the ‘Murdoch Press’. Lets see Fairfax open its columnists to the same scrutiny/comment/democracy. Oh thats right, it’s Howard who is silencing dissent. Why not lead by example Fairfax?

    Posted by Nic on 2007 06 16 at 08:34 AM • permalink

  4. Tim Dunlop runs the most wretchedly dull blog that side of the Pacific. 

    George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad George Bush is bad John Howard is bad Karl Rove is bad

    Nary a word of criticism about the wild eye jihadis.  I used to read two blogs, Dunlop’s and Tim Blair’s.  But I found myself constanting arguing with the moonbats there who refused to listen to reason.  I finally concluded that they would rather see Islamists detonate a WMD in an American or Australian city than to support President Bush or Prime Minister Howard one iota.

    Nuts, all of them.  And boring nuts to boot.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 06 16 at 08:44 AM • permalink

  5. Sheesh, TimD. TimB and TimH, how many Tims are there in Oz?
    P.S. Only two of the above are in the right, lol.

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 08:45 AM • permalink

  6. wronwright - I got tired of Tim D always replying to my post trying to be smart - leaving the awesome errors in all the rest free from comment.

    He sees nothing wrong in any labor policy - period.

    He sees evil at anything jwh says.

    Posted by peter m on 2007 06 16 at 08:51 AM • permalink

  7. Who the hell is Tim Dunlop,the only person i see there is some wanker called Ken L.

    Posted by sparrow on 2007 06 16 at 08:51 AM • permalink

  8. 5#  only concern yourself with 2 Tim Blair and Timtams

    Posted by sparrow on 2007 06 16 at 08:56 AM • permalink

  9. #5 - Tim?

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 06 16 at 09:02 AM • permalink

  10. Thanks Sparrow (# 8), 1.618 reckons TimB is Timtams but I’ll acccept that, ta
    Where are you 1.628?

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  11. only concern yourself with 2 Tim Blair and Timtams


    mmm Tim serves red AND white wine.  TimTams, well, they are chocolate, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm chocolate…................

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 16 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  12. Darn, 1.618 I meant.
    PIMF.

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  13. #9, DK, nah, that’s not me.
    I’m just a grunt!

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 09:08 AM • permalink

  14. HEY, I’m from Adelaide, and frankly, you’re….......oh, OK, I see, carry on then.

    Posted by Tom H on 2007 06 16 at 09:23 AM • permalink

  15. #11.
    Do you recall what that red was?

    Posted by kae on 2007 06 16 at 09:38 AM • permalink

  16. Tim, Kim, and Jeremy

    Sounds like a late-night cartoon.  Or a naughty movie.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 16 at 09:57 AM • permalink

  17. Adelaide thing? More like a Eumundi thing methinks.
    That search found 28,400 results for Downer, but it found 26,500 for Rudd, and he has only been doing it for about a year.
    Downer has been around since Adam was a pup.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 16 at 10:09 AM • permalink

  18. # 16, RebeccaH,Late-night Cartoon, naughty movie. Well, both sound good to me.

    Posted by TimH on 2007 06 16 at 10:15 AM • permalink

  19. Re #18, maybe an anime movie?

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 16 at 10:51 AM • permalink

  20. #5 TimH
    “Sheesh, TimD. TimB and TimH, how many Tims are there in Oz?
    P.S. Only two of the above are in the right, lol.”

    TimH, I’ve got two more for you, TimF(Flannery) and Tim Costello, the federal treasurer’s brother and definitely not my favourite.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 06 16 at 10:55 AM • permalink

  21. Tim, Kim, and Jeremy

    That’s no naughty movie I ever want to see RebeccaH.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 16 at 10:56 AM • permalink

  22. In Adelaide, they say “frankly” so much in reference to “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a dam”.  This is merely a shorthand lament for “why didn’t past and present governments build more dams”. 

    Just wait until summer when “frankly” is used as shorthand for “frankly, everyone’s body is bad because of the shower ban”.

    Posted by ellen on 2007 06 16 at 06:09 PM • permalink

  23. Careful Tim, Jeremy will accuse you of stalking him again, a lowly blogger who just wants to see the world run as he see fits. There’s nothing nefarious or delusional about his rantings.

    ‘Left>Right, JWH=Scum, Local issues fixed my way, Attempted sarcasm, Oh look here’s my cat, personal issues no one cares about, Left>Right, More cats, Legalese references to global issues, cats as replacement for human company, Green politics=enlightenment, bla bla bla’

    That about covers it.

    Posted by CB on 2007 06 16 at 06:32 PM • permalink

  24. I would like an explanation as to why Ant Loewenstein has been excluded from authorship in these books about how the left have been silenced.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 16 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  25. In a startling display of Pavlovian proportions, Jezza launches his attack.

    Posted by CB on 2007 06 16 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  26. Congratulations to the editor of The Australian. In this one sentence,Their voices have not been silenced, they have simply lost their relevance. , he (whoever he is) sums it up perfectly.
    Well done.

    Posted by DropDeadUgly on 2007 06 16 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  27. Interesting that those who believe the left cannot be defined have no problem lumping the right together, as Dunlop does in his first sentence.

    He goes on to repeat the mantra:

    Try and define the arguments put forward by a John Quiggin, an Andrew Leigh, a Kim Jameson, a Cam Riley, a Robert Merkel, a tigtog or whomever merely in terms of a left/right dichotomy.  It simply won’t work, and to do so would be to label yourself as unserious.

    However wron at #4 defines it perfectly and seriously. All of the people Dunlop names will remain true to wron’s definition, even if it means ignoring any other belief - thence comes the comedy.

    If Dunlop was fair dinkum that the left and right dichotomy was not useful, he wouldn’t use the terms. Truth is, as a lefty, he’s embarrassed to be associated with those who would appease the girl cutters.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 17 at 12:15 AM • permalink

  28. Try and define the arguments put forward

    Substitute ‘unsupported assertions’ for ‘arguments’ and he might be closer to the truth.

    What distinguishes the writings of this group is largely the total absence of what most of us would recognize as an ‘argument’.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 06 17 at 12:31 AM • permalink

  29. Adelaide, frankly, is a good example of the global snap freeze.  The chilled grip, that is, of a leftoid gentry whose first duty is to prevent any initiative which might put money in someone else’s pocket or improve the lot of their inferiors.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 06 17 at 07:05 AM • permalink

  30. Is this the same Tim Dunlop who removes people’s comments without so much as an explanation, leaving only arse sucking sycophants to blow his tiny little knob extension known as “Blogocracy”?

    Posted by murph on 2007 06 18 at 05:04 AM • permalink

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