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The announcement:

After a very successful talk’s last year, newmatilda.com is holding its second In Conversation discussion panel.

The topics:

Who Can You Trust?
Who is a credible source online?

The speakers:

Jackie Dent: ABC Opinion Online & UN Afghanistan spokesperson
Antony Lowenstein: Author of My Israel Question, journalist, blogger
Tom O’Loughlin: Sydney Alternative Media- Editor of micro news site & solicitor
Edmund Tadros: SMH.com & investigative journalist

The questions people may wish to ask if they attend this “successful talk’s”:

• On complex issues, how seriously should we take someone who can’t even judge age or gender?

• Is inventing quotes a bad thing?

• Why might someone be so much milder in print than he is online?

• Should we trust someone who betrays his own family?

Yet Antony isn’t the craziest bug on New Matilda’s panel. He’s joined by Tom O’Loughlin, editor of sub-fringe conspiracy site Sydney Alternative Media. Talk about your credible online sources; this boy makes ol’ Ant look like, I don’t know, a journalist.

(Via Dylan Kissane)

Posted by Tim B. on 03/26/2008 at 12:32 PM
  1. ‘Who can you trust?’

    This sounds totally infantile and belongs to the perpetually paranoid. These dopes need to grow up.

    Posted by JAFA on 2008 03 26 at 01:50 PM • permalink

  2. SMH.com?

    Posted by PW on 2008 03 26 at 01:58 PM • permalink

  3. #2 - You can add to that trustworthy link the misspelling of Antony’s name (there’s an ‘e’ missing from his surname) and the rather curious use of the apostrophe in “After a very successful talk’s last year…”.

    The seminar is co-sponsored by the Australian Centre for Independent Journalism (Link) and their site adds another name to the list: Wendy Bacon. A bit of background on Bacon’s form is here.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2008 03 26 at 02:14 PM • permalink

  4. After a very successful talk’s last year…

    After a “successful talk’s” what? I dropped by Sydney Alternative Media, btw. I didn’t get any further in determining whether I can trust the site than learning that I definitely can’t trust their knowledge of basic writing skills: flagrant misuse of apostrophes, overwrought metaphors, a choppy prose style that suggests the pidgin English of a cannibal who spent a semester at university reading Philip Adams’ editorials in the library’s newspaper section.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 26 at 02:14 PM • permalink

  5. Making Ant look like a journalist would take a miracle of Biblical proportions.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 26 at 02:45 PM • permalink

  6. #4 - I clicked over to the SAM site and found a rather twisted explanation for Japan’s insistence on whaling: it’s “cultural revenge” for the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tom also asserts that whales have “only [been] hunted since WW2” by Japan. One assumes this would come as a shock to those Japanese whalers from the 8th century.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2008 03 26 at 02:48 PM • permalink

  7. After a very successful talk’s last year,

    That’s all the farther I’d be able to read this mess, if it wasn’t being quoted here.  Is there NO minimum threshold of literacy that these wankers must meet to get these jobs?

    Posted by formerly Huck Foley on 2008 03 26 at 02:50 PM • permalink

  8. Huh!  Comment posty-thing is working again ... it crapped out on me this morning, after about three postings.  Now for no apparent reason (‘cause I ain’t changed ANY settings) it’s working again.  I just don’t get it.

    Posted by formerly Huck Foley on 2008 03 26 at 02:52 PM • permalink

  9. Tom believes that MI5 destroyed the video card on his computer because of his fearless reporting of the Irish Potato Famine.

    He only set up his own blog because the rest of Sydney Indymedia found him too nutty.

    Posted by gdog78 on 2008 03 26 at 03:28 PM • permalink

  10. After a very successful talk’s last year

    Maybe it’s a multi-year talk and the author is making reference to its most recent year; perfectly grammatical, if perhaps a bit colloquial in the use of the ‘s possessive case for something that isn’t alive.

    And you thought these people didn’t know how to write! Sheesh.

    Posted by PW on 2008 03 26 at 03:40 PM • permalink

  11. And here me was thoughting of Dreamboat’s well-living as aspirational goals’s. AL would be oft-ill considered a credible online referral when regarding the lunacy of self-bloggership.

    How’d I go? D’ya think that tortured prose is too much or too little to get me in the door?

    Posted by CB on 2008 03 26 at 04:15 PM • permalink

  12. I can trust the media generally to praise the all-new, improved Water Plan, and to uncritically accept that it a sign of the new Co-operative Federalism.
    The pre-election posturing on this (“We have superb water management already” -Victoria) now transforms to “thanks for the extra cash, we’ll use it to improve our water management.”
    As with the criticism of the NT Intervention, it was all a scam to rob the Howard Government of any kudos and to make them look like they were tired and ineffective.
    Now, as Andrew Bolt is pointing out, we have a PM who is so shambollicky he’s attending things like NATO meetings? 17 day O/S trip? Just cricket noises from the rest of the MSM, online or otherwise.
    How long does a honeymoon last when the ALP is in power? 13 years?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2008 03 26 at 04:52 PM • permalink

  13. #6 The Japanese have retaliated against WWII Victors Australia by bombing our whales in the Southern Ocean.  Yeah, rii-ight.

    ‘Should we trust someone who betrays his own family?’ 
    Should make an interesting discussion of the Obama candidacy too.

    Posted by Barrie on 2008 03 26 at 05:07 PM • permalink

  14. Join Australians who Reject Antony Loewenstein - rapidly approaching the size of Loewenstein’s own club, Jews for Genocide.

    Perhaps Loewenstein could run a breakout-session at the conference entitled “how to censor all comments on your blog with which you disagree, while making a career from complaining that your views are censored”.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2008 03 26 at 05:25 PM • permalink

  15. Jackie Dent: ABC Opinion Online & UN Afghanistan spokesperson

    WTF?
    Jackie Bent?

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 03 26 at 05:33 PM • permalink

  16. #14
    Perhaps Loewenstein could run a breakout-session at the conference entitled “how to censor all comments on your blog with which you disagree, while making a career from complaining that your views are censored”.

    David Marr will be sure to back him up ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 03 26 at 05:36 PM • permalink

  17. #16

    David Marr will be sure to back him up

    Boom tish.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2008 03 26 at 05:38 PM • permalink

  18. Four losers.  Maybe the room will spontaneously combust from all the methane that gang of nincompoops put out.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2008 03 26 at 06:04 PM • permalink

  19. Totally O/T, but as my dad used to say:

    “You can always tell a fight pilot, but you can’t tell him much.”

    Nice to see that the Kiwis have grasped this natural law.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 26 at 06:07 PM • permalink

  20. After a very successful talk’s last year

    I wouldn’t trust anyone who can’t get the apostrophe correct.

    Actually, on reconsideration, I wouldn’t trust anyone who can’t get their thoughts straight.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 03 26 at 06:26 PM • permalink

  21. #6 #4 - I clicked over to the SAM site and found a rather twisted explanation for Japan’s insistence on whaling: it’s “cultural revenge” for the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tom also asserts that whales have “only [been] hunted since WW2” by Japan. One assumes this would come as a shock to those Japanese whalers from the 8th century.

    All of this, of course, would be news to the New England, Canadian, German, Dutch, English, Norwegian, and Scottish whalers of the 19th century.  Not to mention the Tlingit and other Northwest Pacific Indian tribes of the American continent.

    Frankly, I distrust leftists’ grasp of history, geography, philosophy, and just about everything else.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 03 26 at 07:03 PM • permalink

  22. If you add chairman Wendy Bacon, the panel covers the political spectrum from far left to extreme left. Could be amusing to sit in the audience, eyes closed, and guess which speaker is a boy and which is a girl. Beyond that it will be simply five people saying what they have always said to an audience who will applaud raptuously despite having heard it all before.

    Posted by Contrail on 2008 03 26 at 07:26 PM • permalink

  23. #16 #17 Marr is a good Anal-yst.

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 26 at 07:31 PM • permalink

  24. Don’t get me started on apostrophes.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2008 03 26 at 07:41 PM • permalink

  25. #12 blogstrop I’m not convinced the honeymoon hasn’t ended. The Australian media is dealing with something it hasn’t seen before - a PM who will do anything to preserve his popularity. Even Hawke knew how to make hard decisions when he had to.

    Rudd doesn’t and the media is exploiting that as we saw during the carers payment controversy. Something that Howard used to spread around his massive budget surpluses is now a budget fixture that has to be funded even when there is little or no surplus. Rudd backflipped because polling showed his popularity slipped.

    So Rudd has to find the savings elsewhere and the media will pounce on each and every one of them. To make matters worse, Rudd was counting on finding a way out of the Super Hornet (no votes in that) and Brumby screwed him for a $1bn for his signature on the Murray deal. Rudd really thought Brumby would sign for the sake of party comradeship. In the end Rudd was caught because he had promised a deal on the river as part of his “new era of federal state co-operation”. Brumby had him by the balls after that. No deal, no new era, promise broken.

    The first Rudd budget will be interesting. Will he ditch the promise to cut spending and claim the inflationary pressures are no longer there or will a whole lot of pet left issues that the public don’t care about get the chop. Think ABC/SBS, arts, public service jobs and pay scales, Aborigines and just about anything in Peter Garrett’s portfolios.

    Posted by Contrail on 2008 03 26 at 07:47 PM • permalink

  26. Good assessment contrail.

    My view is the usual Treasury cockup re expected income will come along and help them out.  There was a very quiet report recently that the expected surplus over ordinary spending was first thought to be about $13 bil, but is now expected to be $25 bil, due to more ppl paying PAYG taxes and higher mining revenues.

    So Rudd has an extra $12 bil to throw around before even talking about the spending promised in the last election.

    I see qld scored a few extra health bucks too - no doubt Bligh whispered a few more horror stories from the qld health dept were coming and needed some mega bucks to wash it all away.

    The fun never ends in sunny qld - beautiful one day, hide the dirt under the carpet the next!

    ps happy 1st birthday to my little Lucy Grace!

    She is cuter than ever.  What a life changing event!

    :)

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    * 1.618 original rip off ;)

    Posted by peter m on 2008 03 26 at 08:15 PM • permalink

  27. I’m partial to any event that I’ll be the most sane at. Sign me up.

    I’m also dying to hear the answer to Antony’s question. It’s like waiting for J.D. Salinger to put pen to paper again.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 03 26 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  28. #18
    If it’s not spontaneous, can someone please leave the pilot light on?

    Posted by kae on 2008 03 26 at 09:06 PM • permalink

  29. #25 Contrail you could be right about garret; it is reported that he is going to knock back a proposed developement of Newcastle Harbour Lighthouse which is supported by everyone except an ex-schoolie with relevancy issues and the usual dread-locked parasites; garret will probably get the Newcastle issue as a sop for losing the other expensive issues.

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 26 at 09:20 PM • permalink

  30. O’Loughlin’s site is a major disappointment; how can you have an alternative media site without having at least one story about aliens; on the plus side is his use of the Thompson twins, especially since rudd is Tintin, macklin is Snowy and it’s an open contest to see who is Prof. Calaculus and Capt. Haddock; o’loughlin also appears to have a better student record forgery than mine, so I wouldn’t mind comparing notes, but the tipping point is that he is a body-surfer; those bastards can only go one way.

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 26 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  31. Q: “Who can you trust?”

    A:  None of the damned speakers.

    Is that the flyweight division of the intellectual class, or what?

    Posted by Hucbald on 2008 03 26 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  32. #14
    I almost didn’t finish that petition when I got to the last page and it asked me if I wanted to support animal rights, the environment, worker’s rights etc.
    I was scarily reminded of Blair’s Law (“the ongoing process by which the world’s multiple idiocies are becoming one giant, useless force”, as I’m sure you all know).

    Posted by Zuzzy on 2008 03 26 at 10:20 PM • permalink

  33. Lowenstein tilts his pimple brain and chides Steyn to the single figure numbers who visit his web site. Most likely the same single figure numbers who purchased his book.

    Surely he’s not serious. An intellectual joust between him and Steyn would produce the same result as me opening the batting against Malcolm Marshall. At one end a big target (me) and at the other end - Mr Unplayable.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 03 26 at 11:59 PM • permalink

  34. mehaul, I take your point but my money would still be on you; poor old Malcolm passed away nearly 10 years ago, and, as good as he was, it simply would be a dead rubber.

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 03 27 at 01:32 AM • permalink

  35. Thanks Cohenite. I know he’s not with us. But I had to use him as the example, because I think he was the greatest quickie ever. That opinion is obviously not based on stats, just that no one could get a bat on him. Short career, short run off, short in physical stature, just superb.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 03 27 at 02:52 AM • permalink

  36. Tom O’loughlins impressive sporting background and exposure to academia doesn’t explain why he fell into the sewer of the dregs that wiped away any potential intelligent future.

    Maybe it’s all in the upbringing

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 03 27 at 05:57 AM • permalink

  37. #33

    Antony turned up to a Mark Steyn lecture and couldn’t even report that accurately.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2008 03 27 at 06:05 AM • permalink

  38. #11, well, CB I didn’t understand it at all, despite my English degree. You are therefore qualified to be an activist of truly nauseous narcissm.

    Mind you I did enjoy your use of “thoughting”, so by activist standards that might approach humour. Careful, now…

    Posted by carpefraise on 2008 03 27 at 07:24 AM • permalink

  39. Ooooooops…narcissism.

    Posted by carpefraise on 2008 03 27 at 07:37 AM • permalink

  40. They can’t spell Tom’s name correctly. It is McLoughlin.

    Posted by gdog78 on 2008 03 27 at 04:27 PM • permalink

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