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Age headline:
Thousands march for climate change
They were marching against climate change, surely? Well, perhaps not:
The march, which travelled down Swanston Street towards the Alexandra Gardens, brought traffic to a standstill as motorists were forced to ponder the size of the procession.
Imagine all the beautiful warmy gas produced by those idling engines. Well done, walkers!
UPDATE. As required by warmenist protest law, the comedy polar bears turned up.
Mr Costello said it was the world’s richest people who had produced most of the greenhouse gas, CO2.
So, all those protester were poor, too? Who would’ve believed it? And what, exactly, is the (relative to most of the rest of the world’s population) Mr. Costello going to give up to slow the production of CO2? My favorite for him would be to give up breathing.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 11 11 at 12:41 AM • permalinkI’m reading “Thousands march for climate change” but I’m thinking “Dewey defeats Truman.”
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 11 at 12:41 AM • permalink. . . motorists were forced to ponder the size of the procession.
I suspect the pondering ran along these lines:
“Git yer arses outta the street, ya bloody whackers!”
“Crikey, mate! Whaddaya say we jes’ plow through these dipsticks? I mean, how much could the fine be?”
“H-o-o-n-n-k!!”
“Git outta the road, ya bastids!”
“B-e-e-e-e-p!”
“Who gives a rat’s arse about yer bloody Tasmanian pulp mill!?!”
“Well, if I’m going to be stuck here, I might as well kill some time by wrappin’ that Greenie’s bicycle around his neck!” *Slam!*
O-o-h-h, yeah. Whole lotta ponderin’ goin’ on . . .
OT First it was the writers , now Stagehands strike a blow for the entertainment industry.
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 11 at 01:10 AM • permalinkMy first thought was “How are all those walkers getting to work tomorrow? What kind of vehicles do they drive?”
Naturally, these are rhetorical questions.
Posted by Toiling Mass on 2007 11 11 at 02:18 AM • permalinkAwesome! Goes far to assuage my guilt at owning a carbon-saving manual shifter. Hey, at least it’s not a hybrid!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 11 11 at 02:19 AM • permalink“Climate change is caused mainly by developed countries,” Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui said. (From Bolta)
If Peter Garrett has his way it will not be long before Australia is no longer a “developed” country - it can then join the ranks of third world nations, and produce all the emissions it wants.
Could there be some method in Garrett’s madness?
“...motorists were forced to ponder the size of the procession.”
This line is just propaganda masquerading as a news story. Unless the reporter interviewed someone sitting in one of the cars who said, “I’m forced to ponder the size of the procession.” she doesn’t know what the hell they were thinking. She’s just projecting her desires and personal motivations onto a group of people she doesn’t know and has never met. You can practically hear her saying to herself in that secret voice inside her head, “It serves them right for driving their cars that they have to wait for this huge gaggle to waddle by.”
And that says nothing about the merits of her implicit argument, namely that a large crowd somehow proves the rightness of the cause. So, a large number of people joined this little parade. I can name many other instances in history where a huge number of people joined a parade or demonstration for a cause that didn’t turn out to be anything to be proud of. We’re getting close to Godwin’s Law territory here but you get the point. Remember, you can fool some of the people all of the time.
If Peter Garrett has his way it will not be long before Australia is no longer a “developed” country
Sdly it is not just the singing spastic that wants to put us back to the dark ages, kevni & butch also want to doom us to industrial oblivion. That is why I am not voting for the actu on the 24 November.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 11 at 02:50 AM • permalinkIn terms of Age’s accuracy, try this from the Sunday Age’s political columnist Jason Koutsoukis this morning:
As did the strange attempt to hide the Liberals’ campaign slogan “Go for Growth”. On Wednesday it was removed as the standard backdrop for Howard’s press conferences and replaced with an enormous Union Jack. By Thursday afternoon the “Go for Growth” sign was back again.One can’t help feeling a little sorry for Howard. He wanted to retire back in 2006 but Peter Costello managed to behave so badly that Howard talked himself into staying.
Howard uses an ‘enormous union jack’ as a chosen backdrop? One can’t help feeling a little sorry for Jason.
Many carried banners or wore T-shirts bearing slogans such as, ‘I love clean energy and I vote’ to remind those on the campaign trail that policies on the environment will sway their votes come November 24.
I’d love to know where many of those T Shirts were made and how they got here. My bet, China.
Hypocrites.
Note the crowd estimates from The Age story:
Police estimated between 20,000 and 30,000 people joined the march along Swanston Street..Despite the looming federal election, figures appeared slightly down on last year, when 35,000 were estimated to have joined the walk,.
I wonder why The Age itself didn’t try counting the crowd to get an independent tally. If the police cant get the count more refined than ‘between 20,000 and 30,000’, why rely on the police? Do the police seriously spend time and effort getting a reliable count on these crowds? I doubt it. And note the weasel wordage re the 2006 number:
“35,000 were estimated”—by whom? Certainly not estimated by independent-minded journalists.
Yet these crowd counts are always used as ‘key facts’. The standard formula is “The rally organisers estimated the crowd at 5000/50,000/500,000. Police estimated the crowd at 50/500/5000 or whatever.
Any statistician or many scientists could tell reporters how to count large numbers. It is not as though you have to count them 1,2,3,4,5 etc.
High time we had some adult-style reporting on crowd numbers.I can name many other instances in history where a huge number of people joined a parade or demonstration for a cause that didn’t turn out to be anything to be proud of.
As Neo Nazis and Skinheads march through the streets of Sydney, black people were left to ponder the colour of their skin…
Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 11 at 03:50 AM • permalink> Mr Costello said it was the world’s richest people who had produced most of the greenhouse gas, CO2
As far as per capita pollution, I would be very surprised if the world’s “richest people”, (which I take to mean developed countries in general, as opposed to Al Gore et alia in particular), can hold a candle to the world’s underdeveloped countries.
Underdeveloped countries don’t worry about excessive pollution simply because they see no compelling benefit to doing so. Funny how starvation can change your priorities.
Per capita, does Switzerland produce more CO2 than China? I really doubt it, Mr Costello.
If “Al Gore et alia” was meant, then I doubt I would object.
Posted by zeppenwolf on 2007 11 11 at 03:53 AM • permalinkChannel 9 news tonight reckoned 30,000 marched in Sydney and 150,000 marched throughout Australia.
If that’s the case, Toowoomba, Bendigo, Port Augusta and Joonalup must have big turn outs then…..
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
(Tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)
Oh, no, no you can’t disguise
(You can’t disguise, no you can’t disguise)
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies(apologies to Fleetwod Mac)
Catalyst on the ABC is a must watch this week.
Here’s a description of what’s showing on Thurs 8pm;We all know that we’re evil energy burners, but carbon footprints are a bit like the Reserve Bank and it’s interest-rate role; we know it’s important and we should understand it, but few of us do.
This episode of Catalyst brings home the whole issue, literally.
Graphically pouring 50 tonnes of coal on a house to demonstrate average carbon emissions per home, per year is painfully effective. We can also forget about blaming heavy industry for global warming. Half of Australia’s carbon emissions come from burning coal to make electricity.
But the Catalyst team aren’t just talking about the problem, they’re going carbon neutral to show the rest of us how it can be done.Better not let the kiddies watch it. They’ll have nightmares for weeks!!!!
bwah ha ha ha ha, oh god, I almost peed myself when I read this.
JEEBUS!!!!If they had chosen any other day for their silly walk this week, they would have frozen their arses off! As it was, Sydney’s temperature today was below average!
I’m pretty sure that’s why they opted for a walk against climate change as opposed to a walk against warming. They didn’t want to end up with egg on their faces…again!!O/T
Read a story this morning about an ex-lover of Julia Gillard’s. Ew!
But I digress.
This bloke used an association set up by Gillard (when she was a solicitor, acting for the AWU) to defraud the AWU and got chased for the money in 95 and 96 but nothing came of that.
The Age describes this bloke, Bruce Wilson, as her, 1990s squeeze.
Gillard is quoted as saying that back then, she was, “young and naive”.
In 1994, before the faeces hit the fan, she was 33, had spent two years in top positions at the Australian Union of Students, had a law degree and had been a partner at Slater and Gordon for 4 years. And she wants us to believe that she was young and naive?
I smell a rat.
For further documents of interest, see Grievances AWU: Funds, pp 52-3 and Grievances AWU: Funds, pp 879-80.
Re: italics. It’s fixed. Quit it.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 11 11 at 04:38 AM • permalinkI was young and naive when I was 14.
15, 16, 17 cured all that.
By 21 I was a happy cynic. And well on with my life.
Poor Joolya has been short-changed by her protectors if she was still naive at 33 and didn’t know the repercussions, as a practicing lawyer, of setting up a structure to facilitate fraud.
Many lawyers have been struck off for just such a thing.
#43, mareeS,
But it seems that she’s been well protected since.
Maybe she really believed that he coughed up the $17,000 for her clothes (+/- money for her house) out of his own pocket. Maybe he had another girlfriend/de facto/sex-partner and she neither saw, nor wore, any of the fashionista stuff. Maybe pigs really can fly. I can’t say.
But I do not believe that she was young and naive.
Let’s suspend disbelief for a moment about their crowd figures. 30,000? Clearly a failure, then:
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 11 at 06:51 AM • permalinkIn Sydney, they expected 80,000. In Brisbane, they were a little more realistic.
No word yet of how many actually took part.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 11 at 06:59 AM • permalink#47, Janice,
My own daughter, aged 21, can spot a fraud at 100 paces.
Her verdict as of 60secs ago, to quote verbatim: “She has too much confidence and not enough substance…she’d rather snipe at other people than talk about her own policies.”
The 21yo also doesn’t like the idea of a hairdresser/handbag boyfriend. “She’s too old for that…she’s nearly as old as you, mum…”
Well, the nasty stuff is now beginning to emerge, spoken by someone on the youth side. The next fortnight should be interesting.
Back on topic, apologies for departing from the thread,
Nobody marched for or against climate change in Newcastle today that I could see.
When we were driving back from the boat this afternoon via the waterfront, the traffic was at a crawl due to the hundreds of P-platers in hotted and modified vehicles cruising between the harbourside roundabouts.
It’s a young motor scene and they were all having a lovely time, hanging out, showing off. Everyone happy.
Noice. Bugger AGW, these young people are entitled to these Sunday arvos.
We had it years ago, why shouldn’t they?
didn’t notice anyone walking against warming round here either- but given it was cold and wet I bet a few were walking towards warming.
I hate to resort to reruns, but since we’re talking about Julia
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 11 at 07:21 AM • permalinkSpot the Difference
Labor environment spokesman Peter Garrett was heckled by conservationists as he took part in the Sydney leg of climate change demonstrations which attracted 100,000 people nationally.
Elements of the Walk Against Warming crowd booed or turned their backs on Mr Garrett, who many environmentalists accuse of betraying his principles by joining Labor’s frontbench. (ninemsn)
Nature Conservation Council’s Cate Faehrmann said early estimates suggested as many as 150,000 people had marched in similar protests across the country.
Earlier during the protest, federal Labor environment spokesman Peter Garrett was met with boos but Ms Faehrmann said the crowd was merely frustrated by the lack of progress on climate change. (SMH)Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 11 at 07:35 AM • permalink#54, eenimeenie, WAW elements turned their back on Garrett?
Well, isn’t that something?
The Dear Leader turns his back on JH during every parliamentary question time.
This is a great example the left is setting: I hate you, I won’t listen to you, I won’t look at you. You don’t exist.
The left uses this tactic always to avoid logical debate.
Seriously OT but too good not to share…
A bath-taker reveals:
“After a sparkle-laden bath that I was too relaxed to clean up after [my b/f said]:
“Uh, babe—Can you come here? I think a clown ejaculated into our bathtub.” ”Posted by carpefraise on 2007 11 11 at 08:30 AM • permalink#72 That’s an extraordinarily good point CB.
A friend of mine is married to the managing director of a large international company. She votes Labor, and takes any chance to bag Howard. She won’t even accept that it’s because of Howard that she lives in Toorak and has a squillion bucks to support her three little brats and send them to private school. Go figure.
I’ve been invited to her Election Night party. I turned down the offer, because I’ll be handing out “How to Vote” cards for the Liberal Party.
Ah, the horn; I remember it well*
Just read about Ban Ki Loon spouting his usual sort of rubbish from the Antarctic western peninsula - the 2% part of it that has warmed, from memory - “on ice melting beneath his feet” (oh, the tempting imagery!), horrified at the sight of perfectly normal icebergs just off the coast, and declaring from his experience “climate change is happening faster than I thought.” Gets faster every time these guys step out of the office, doesn’t it? Something to do with extra media coverage speeding it up, I believe.
Oh, well, hope he doesn’t miss his flight to Bali.*it being, perhaps, socially unacceptable to broadcast my irrepressible and ongoing horniness. I was going to add ‘mature’ but am not sure you can apply that to horniness at any age. “Horniness makeths crazy adolescents of us all.” - Shakespeare (OK, probably not him, but still true. Maybe Jefferson).
Dminor
#76 He’s not taking that E-blogger blocker lying down! Wonder if the ‘objectionable’ content is violence, like Tim’s. What you say? The totty? No…
No, I’d say it is more the idiot who has nothing better to do, then play with themselves, goes to a church on ‘their’ day, then screws the boss Monday through Friday, but it a He or a She.
Not taking it lying down. Hell no, spits in their eyes, he does.
I will, too.
More italics scattered all over the place, no more comment numbers, farewell and good night Mac users.
Man allegedly landed on the moon, (unless you are a moonbat conspiracy theorist), surely there is a method whereby us slack jawed yokel Mac users can read a coherent thread even if an errant commenter forgets to close their tags?
This beautiful pearl white masterpiece gracing my desk does so many wonderful things, but it just can’t read Blair’s comment thread after a
numptybrilliant commenter gets so excited they forget to close the tags.Oh well, I could always throw it in the bin and buy a Dell M$ POS for <>$400, and never be cranky again.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 11 11 at 11:45 AM • permalinkI expect that the “objectionable content” involved video from the air of a couple of guys setting up a roadside IED, and then they just…disappeared. I didn’t find it objectionable at all. In fact, I hit replay and watched it on full screen. I can imagine the dialogue:
“Hey, Samir, what’s with the little red laser dot?”
“Don’t worry, Achmed, they couldn’t hit a camel at this dist…”
Heh.
AGW is sooo yesterday already. I just got done watching a sciency type program that says we’re all gonna die from a massive gamma ray burst the next time a star gets all jihadi and goes esplody dope.
We need to do something useful! Someone organize a March Against Stars Exploding! Now, before it’s too late!
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How did all those thousands of marchers get there? Star Trek transporters?