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The New York Times detects a problem for John McCain:

The problem, though, is that embracing Mr. Bush — whose average approval ratings hover around 32% — is likely to seriously damage Mr. McCain with the rest of the electorate.

They ought to know. The NYT’s approval ratings hover around 24 per cent. The paper’s embrace of Al Gore and John Kerry seriously damaged those candidates with the rest of the electorate.

Posted by Tim B. on 03/06/2008 at 10:19 AM
  1. The New York Times - the Titanic of newspapers.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 03 06 at 10:50 AM • permalink

  2. Is it true that one share of stock in the New York Times is now selling for one cancelled postage stamp?

    Posted by Merlin on 2008 03 06 at 11:31 AM • permalink

  3. Titanic, indeed. In fact, I think it’s an open question as to whether the NYT will even be around in its current form when we choose a new president.

    In any event, McCain’s going to have to get used to this kind of thing. Before it’s all over, they’ll be somberly linking his mismatched socks to a presumed loss of mental capacity, and tut-tutting over an unnamed former staffer’s assertion that he once saw McCain eat a booger.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 06 at 11:39 AM • permalink

  4. Last time I looked Senator Uber Ego was a member of Congress.  Since President Bush’s approval rating is about two or three times higher than Congress it should be a benefit.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2008 03 06 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  5. Also, The Fish Wrap Of Choice is feeling its unpopularity in opinion polls that really matter.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 11:58 AM • permalink

  6. I lined my birdcage with the New York Times and Petey took one whiff and died. Thanks, you Times bastards.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2008 03 06 at 11:59 AM • permalink

  7. “Mr. McCain could be compounding his problems by appearing to endorse the rest of what the Bush administration has come to represent for many Americans: allowing big corporations to call the shots on government policy; trampling on the law and civil liberties; sky-high gas prices; and allowing the economy to slide toward recession”

    NYT = Many Americans

    Check.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 06 at 11:59 AM • permalink

  8. And Congress’ rating, now run by the Democrats, hovers in the low 20s.

    Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2008 03 06 at 12:02 PM • permalink

  9. What did the NYT expect McCain to do? Join Kucinich’s call for impeachment? Or maybe volunteer to lead a posse deputized by the Brattleboro Vigilance Committee in rounding up the Bush Gang? Continuing Rebecca’s Titanic analogy, the editors of the NYT are standing on the deck laughing at the discomfort of the people in the overcrowded life boats.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 06 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  10. With Congress in the low 20’s, Bush’s endorsement should be a plus for the Senator.

    Posted by Latino on 2008 03 06 at 12:58 PM • permalink

  11. They can’t run a paper, yet they want to tell us how to run our country.

    Posted by MarkD on 2008 03 06 at 12:58 PM • permalink

  12. The NYT contacted me three years ago to ask why I hadn’t renewed.

    I told them that I didn’t read fiction anymore.

    Posted by SSG Pooh on 2008 03 06 at 01:09 PM • permalink

  13. #5:TRJ But wait, there’s more!

    I only have 40 years of data but.

    The high was in June of 2002 at 53.  The current print is 17.93.  Yea Bush!

    The January 2001 high was 44.88 for those interested.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2008 03 06 at 01:10 PM • permalink

  14. 9 ...the editors of the NYT are standing on the deck laughing at the discomfort of the people in the overcrowded life boats.

    The NYT editors stand laughing as they peel back the “Titanic” name on the ship to reveal the real name, “New York Traitors”. They scream, “Gotcha, suckers!”, as they prepare the chum for yet another round.

    Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 06 at 01:36 PM • permalink

  15. The high was in June of 2002 at 53.  The current print is 17.93. Yea Bush!

    I can just imagine the NYT editorial staff reviewing their financial statement: 

    “I BLAME BUSH!!!!”

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 01:59 PM • permalink

  16. They can’t run a paper, yet they want to tell us how to run our country.

    A classic example of why lefties shouldn’t be allowed to run anything more complex than a hot dog stand.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 02:01 PM • permalink

  17. The NYTraitors endorsed McCain among the Republican contestants in the Repub primaries. The stench of that embrace has been overcome by the Bush hug in the perfumed Rose Garden.

    Posted by stats on 2008 03 06 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  18. And it doesn’t seem to hurt him, clinton, or obama that congress has like a 10% approval rating.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2008 03 06 at 03:24 PM • permalink

  19. The New York Times - the Titanic of newspapers.

    I call dibs on a couple of the more comfortable deck chairs over there.

    Posted by steveH on 2008 03 06 at 03:47 PM • permalink

  20. “allowing big corporations to call the shots on government policy”

    Precisely which big corporations “call the shots” on government policy?

    Posted by Quentin George on 2008 03 06 at 04:01 PM • permalink

  21. #16:

    Down at the lefty hot dog stand

    Howard: Nancy, I think we have a problem. We forgot to figure in the cost of the condiments and napkins, so the cost to us is $1.15 per hot dog, and we’re selling them for $1.00, so we’re losing 15 cents per hot dog.

    Nancy: That’s ok; we’ll make it up on volume.

    Posted by paco on 2008 03 06 at 04:07 PM • permalink

  22. Precisely which big corporations “call the shots” on government policy?

    Just the ones in good standing with the Zionist Neo-Con Cabal, of course.

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 03 06 at 04:29 PM • permalink

  23. #16 TRJ…..surely would have to be a very special type of hot dog -organically grown, vegan, UN tested, halal, no preservatives, pork free, Choice approved etc etc…........
    .......just like all the ones we saw when we visited NYC a couple of years back.

    Posted by Rod C on 2008 03 06 at 05:17 PM • permalink

  24. The paper’s embrace of Al Gore and John Kerry seriously damaged those candidates with the rest of the electorate.

    On what do you base that? It would be no more specious to say that McCain won the primaries thanks to the paper’s endorsement.

    Posted by Jefferson Skates on 2008 03 06 at 05:33 PM • permalink

  25. and tut-tutting over an unnamed former staffer’s assertion that he once saw McCain eat a booger.

    Well, if nibbling on your earwax gets you the Prime Ministership of Australia, then that could be a plus.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 03 06 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  26. A classic example of why lefties shouldn’t be allowed to run anything more complex than a hot dog stand.

    I can see it now - waiting in line an hour-and-a-half for a shrivelled, flavorless frank on a hamburger roll, garnished with shredded cabbage and mayonnaise, with some clam juice to wash it down. Twelve bucks, and served by a surly minority civil servant.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 03 06 at 07:26 PM • permalink

  27. Reminds me one of the funniest commercials I’ve ever seen.  Two guys standing around a barbecue where their wives have forced them to cook tofu dogs.  One takes a little nibble while his buddy looks on like it’s the bravest thing he’s ever seen.

    Guy 1:  Is it done yet?
    Guy 2:  God, I hope not.

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 03 06 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  28. Kingston knocked back by NYT for being a neo-conservative whatever that means

    Posted by watty on 2008 03 06 at 07:36 PM • permalink

  29. #24—Jeff Skates: Sir, a little reading comprehension is in order. Perhaps you didn’t note the parallel logic on display with the repeated usage of: “seriously damage[d] {insert noun} with the rest of the electorate.”

    New members might remember to get in touch with their funny bone while cruising this site as tongue-in-cheek humor and subtle irony is regularly on display. Leftists, often humorless, have difficulty recognizing such phenomena. Forewarned is to be forearmed.

    Cheers.

    Posted by Forbes on 2008 03 06 at 07:39 PM • permalink

  30. On what do you base that?  It would be no more specious to say that McCain won the primaries thanks to the paper’s endorsement.

    Newsflash: Gore and Kerry lost those elections.  Bush won. 

    And while no one can truly say whether Bush won in spite of or because of the NYT’s endorsements, the direct relationship is there.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 07:46 PM • permalink

  31. Forbes, you’re right, there’s more than a little humor in that comparison.  Pushing that button with lefties sometimes cranks ‘em, and sometimes gets them thinking. 

    But there’s an element of truth as well.  Recall the old adage about movie critics:  “If they hate it, it’s a good flick.  If they like it, stay home.”  Can’t say as I often failed following that advice.

    Same here.  But that’s something that no one can quantify as well.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 07:51 PM • permalink

  32. .......just like all the ones we saw when we visited NYC a couple of years back.

    I would walk a couple miles to avoid stuffing that junk down my throat.  Give me an all beef hot dog from a grubby vendor any day.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 06 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  33. NYT isn’t the Titanic - that assumes innocents on board.

    NYT is the Yamato.  She is going to be sunk by reality in the near future.

    Posted by Razor on 2008 03 06 at 08:41 PM • permalink

  34. Take thou the B, D, N or F trains to Stillwell Avenue-Coney Island (the last stop), there shalt thou find hot dogs aplenty—yea, hot dogs such as the gods themselves consume as some modern day ambrosia…

    (#33 Razor, you are especially sharp today…)

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2008 03 07 at 09:00 PM • permalink

  35. Razor wrote:

    NYT is the Yamato.  She is going to be sunk by reality in the near future.

    ...and then what? Get rebuilt into a space cruiser and go seek the Cosmo DNA?

    Posted by Patrick Chester on 2008 03 08 at 03:15 PM • permalink

  36. I’ve already seen my first “WORSE THAN BUSH” signs on the ANSWERbots.

    So I made up one that reads, McCAIN O8: YOU’RE GONNA MISS GEORGE…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2008 03 08 at 06:53 PM • permalink

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