<< SOAP NAZI ~ MAIN ~ MISSOURI WINS >>
ABUSE REVEALED
Ben Palmer emails: “It’s unlikely that you’ve missed the story of the Central Australian Crown Prosecutor who has spoken out on the abuse of women and children in Aborginal communities in her area. The things she talked about are too awful for normal, anti-sentimentalist point-scoring. It’s dreadful to think that these victims receive, effectively, next to no protection from our law and justice system, while customary law protects the offenders.”
More on this from Ninme. The Bulletin’s Paul Toohey, based in Darwin, has led reporting on these issues. Scroll through at that link for examples.
UPDATE. Bernie Slattery:
We Australians like to think we rise to the occasion in a crisis. We’re proud of our innovation, courage, mateship and compassion. Well here’s a challenge to prove these qualities are more than just rhetoric.
Evil is being wrought upon the innocent and it must cease.
this is a lose-lose situation for any white person who gets involved. If the govt. steps in and removes children it will be seen as Stolen Generation Mk2, if they do nothing it will be seen as outrageous neglegt. To hell with them and their marvellous indigenous cuture.
Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 10:24 AM • permalinkEqual justice should be given to all Australians. If something is unacceptable in mainstream Australia, it should be unacceptable in indigenous Australia. Children and women experiencing these awful degradations should be removed.
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 10:41 AM • permalinkI think this is an excellent time for anti-sentimentalist point scoring.
People who have long criticised the aboriginal welfare industry as a bunch of opportunistic parasites have had to endure the usual racist accusations. Well now, firstly, let’s throw in a big thank you to Whitlam and his acolytes who I believe pioneered the way for massive tax-funded schemes to improve the lives of aborigines – with disastrous results. And, secondly, how about a big metaphorical kick up the arse to Paul Keating for that monumentally irresponsible piece of stupidity that gave verbal acknowledgement to the ‘stolen generation’ myth and did nothing AT ALL for the wellbeing of real aborigines. Although it did so beautifully fan the flames of that sickness that is the national self-loathing of our ‘elite’ intellectual class – most of whom would reel in disgust at the shit that the lives of many aborigines have become if it was ever to be shoveled into their own trendy little inner urban backyards.Posted by pick-your-pun on 2006 05 17 at 11:00 AM • permalink#3
Aborigines aren’t members of mainstream Australia, they’ve made that quite clear by demanding tribal law and their own flag. They have secceded from Australia(except for dole payments and liquor)and so should be left to their own devices.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 11:10 AM • permalinkIf you were to guarantee safety from further abuse and community “payback”, how many of the aboriginal inhabitants of these areas would actually denounce being rescued from their abusers? The Stolen Generation excuse is given by gatekeepers with their own selfish agendas or the abusers themselves. This story is heartbreaking.
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 11:15 AM • permalink#7 and #5 Daniel San and lmassie, I am sad to have to acknowledge the truth of your comments. I naively hope, though, that Someone (haha) comes up with a solution because I fear we are witnessing the suicide of an entire race.
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 11:18 AM • permalink#9 Black Chick,
I understand your fear, it’s well founded. If I sound callous and racist it’s because I’ve been hearing and seeing the same thing all my life (32 yrs), the same squalor, the same alcoholism, the same vicious downward spiral. I just can’t listen to any more of it, especially when whitey gets the blame. The only way up for these people is to take full responsibility for their own actions, this is the beginning of self-esteem.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 11:40 AM • permalink#10 Daniel San - I agree. There are no easy solutions, perhaps not any. It seems to me that the aboriginals most destroyed and most against the current situation are the ones most in fear of speaking out. Maybe, the best solution is for the rest of us to try and protect the weak as much as possible and let the rest of the aboriginal communities’ either try and sort themselves out or make themselves extinct.
By the way, I don’t think any of your comments are racist! One of my gripes is that PC obscures real racism (such as physical violence or not getting a job etc solely based on race) by labelling any mention of difference as racist.
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 11:56 AM • permalink#11 Black Chick,
I’m glad you don’t think I’m racist, though others would probably have me tarred and feathered for my comments(my first post was a little extreme).Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 12:18 PM • permalinkDaniel San - :)
Racism is watching women and children being attacked and doing nothing except bleating culture, the past, etc. So, basically, I think you’re cool!
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 12:23 PM • permalinkBlack Chick,
It appears that we’re all alone. Can I run my fingers through your afro?.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 12:36 PM • permalinklol - Daniel San, I doubt your wife and kids would approve! Anyway, how do you know I’m not a disabled, Welsh, lesbian, union leader who has no time for frivolous pusuits involving my gogeous afro, fantastic looks and mind-blowing - ahem! - wit!
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 12:44 PM • permalinkWelsh Black Chick,
What was I thinking!?. I should have bought you a drink first…...then gone for the ‘fro. As for your real identity, don’t worry, I’m not really Japanese….Posted by Daniel San on 2006 05 17 at 12:55 PM • permalinkDaniel San - if you’re not Japanese it may take more than one drink. However, my heart does belong to Tim (and Wodehouse, but that’s another story), so I’m afraid I’ll have to say talk to you later and thank you for the fish! Thanks for the posts. Ciao.
Posted by Black Chick on 2006 05 17 at 01:01 PM • permalinkThis reminds me a little of the situation we have here in Utah with the FLDS polygamists downstate. No baby-raping, thank God, but lots of forcible marrying off of fourteen-year-old girls to old men as tenth or twelfth wives and a lot of young teenage boys being dumped out and abandoned on highways for “heresy” (in fact, as possible rivals for the girls - they hold that a man has to have at least three wives to get into heaven, so obviously something has to be done about the competition). There isn’t even a racial element to this situation, and yet the state governments (the polygamists also branch into Arizona) are terrifed to really do anything because then they have rights groups and so forth crawling up their rear ends screaming about freedom of religion and polygamist culture being equally valid and as for the boys, well, they probably just all ran away.
Good luck to prosecutors in dealing with this. Sadly, however, I think even if there were no real racial element it would be hard to solve this problem; as we’ve learned here in Utah, just screaming the magic word “culture” is enough to cow officials into doing nothing.
In todays new.com.au there’s a story about a 53 year old N.T. ex-sporting indentity accused of raping a 16 year old girl.
The following is a comment made by the judge.
“There is no evidence this young lady did anything to indicate she didn’t want to have sex with him,” Mr Loadman said.“There is little prospect the prosecution will establish beyond a reasonable doubt all the elements of the offence.”
Maybe we could start with hanging a few judges.
Unfortunately this is not so big news. All they had to do was interview medical staff at any hospital in proximity to a large Aboriginal community. You could get all the horror stories you want then.
About 10 years ago or so a poor baby girl from the Yulabah community around Cairns was raped so badly she ended up with one orifice - absolutely disgusting but by no means unusual.
Something needs to be done to protect the innocent and helpless and that should take priority over culture sensitivity crap.
Regarding taking the children or women out of the abusive situations, I don’t have a link, but I did see on the news recently talk about the entrenched violence in remote aboriginal communities.
There was mention made of setting up hostels or some such thing as a means of getting the victims out of their environment. Needless to say, there was a comment made about the ‘Stolen Generation’ and how this sort of measure could start another one.
As far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t matter whether you’re black, white, or brindle. Violence inflicted on women, children and especially babies should be punishable by law.
None of this tribal custom crap.
For too long, these animals have effectively been given a free pass because of their ‘customs’ and the behaviour has been allowed to flourish.
We have laws in our country for a reason, and for one group to be given special dispensation is a crock of shite and does nobody any favours.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 05 17 at 04:44 PM • permalinkis this unique behaviour shown in those remote native outposts??
has there ever been examples like this anywhere else in the world??why do our natives behave like this…........is there an evolutionary reason, something in their genes perhaps.
this sexual perversion and depravity occurs with such common indifference that would make caligula blush.
Perhaps the plight of these isolated communities will be enough for those in power to first remove parasitic community leaders from their positions and then draft new laws to ensure that vulnerable people are not taken advantage of by a system that’s more suited to assuaging the fears of cultural purists than actually helping victims.
But I doubt it.
And, Vinny, I doubt it’s a genetic issue. I can’t comment on any specific cases, but in a program a close friend of mine has been involved with, Aboriginal victims of domestic violence were given the assistance to leave their situation, along with their children and work towards trying to rebuild their lives. Domestic violence takes a terrible toll on a person’s self esteem, often leaving them unable to act in extreme cases of violence. Couple this with ridiculous cultural policies which see these women receiving minimal education and opportunities to succeed and, in my mind, what happened up north isn’t too suprising.
The program was run in an urban area, by the way, and the problems these women faced were enormous. Trying to get an education or a job was met with cries of “whitey did this, whitey did that, why try when you’ll just fail because whitey wants to bring you down”, most of them were addicts of some sort, their children often didn’t receive adequate nutrition and most were regular truants. If we can watch this happening so close to our comfortable upper-middle class existance and choose not to speak out because it contradicts everything we’re supposed to think about Aboriginal culture, what hope is there for those poor children out in the bush?
There are very few options to better yourself when you’re so isolated. Sure, you might speak an Aboriginal language (and broken English) and get to hunt and do all those wonderful things which the left would like to see continue, idealizing this sort of existance, but what happens when you’re a vulnerable person subject to abuse by more powerful members of the community? You don’t *have* options. I’d like to see these communities dismantled and integrated into the rest of society. It’s criminal to bring up a child with a minimal knowledge of English and little hope of escaping his life of poverty. I’m suprised more Aborigines haven’t turned to petrol sniffing; I know that’s what I’d do if faced with a life of violence, early childbirth, alcoholism and poverty.
Profoundly sad that this has been allowed to carry on, but the glimmer of hope is that Australians, including some Aboriginal leaders, seem to be waking up. (Noel Pearson beat them all to it by some margin.)
Part of the blame that a blind eye has been turned to this for so many years must surely go to those, including historians, who have persisted with idylls about natives being better off left to their own devices.
Conversely, the likes of Windschuttle have done a huge service to this country and Aboriginal people by pointing out that our academic elites who hold these views are Grade A fuckwits.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 05 17 at 06:10 PM • permalinkThe depravity in these stories are incomprehensible - as a parent it makes my heart ache, it’s a sad picture of our inability to resolve the situation. These little children are being left to suffer all for the cause of ‘cultural affirmation - all cultures are valid’, Aboriginies are commiting a slow form of racial suicide, but god help whitey if he dares to say or do anything about it. Stupidities like stolen generation, secret womens business - all con jobs by professional aboriginies have turned the public ears deaf. The cultural marxists do indeed have a lot to answer for.
Behold the epilogue to the long running show “Romancing The Stone Age”, wherein native people are encouraged not to join the modern society, but instead are paid to do nothing and go nowhere.
Produced By Black Armband Activist Productions.
Funded by All Of Us.
Directed by Wet Left Cop Out Committee.
Starring Human Misery and Grand Delusion.The problem is not just confined to remote aboriginal communities, either. Similar abuse is pretty much endemic in urban and rural communities. The fact is that it is a cultural problem that has to be acknowledged and addressed by everyone, aborigines in particular. This ‘noble savage’ shit pedalled by do-gooders, and cynically manipulated by certain members of the aboriginal community for their own ends, has got to stop.
“We are 11 years into Mr Howard’s Prime Ministry. His most memorable early contribution to this outrageous situation was to reject what he labelled ‘black armband’ view of history. The problem is he turned the black armband into blinkers,” Senator Brown said. - greens press release
What is this moron Brown talking about?, according to him, all these problems only sprang forth out of no where under the Howard government. No bob you germ, it’s the left who have built the cultural blinkers.
Daniel San /2
this is a lose-lose situation for any white person who gets involved.
... or for any predominantly- “white” government, at any level, that gets involved. Neutralizing government is big stuff; so whoever’s doing it is either very lucky or knows what they’re doing. And seriously needs to be stopped or at least messed with, but how?
More irritatingly, it’s a WIN-lose situation for these race- card- dealing- group- identifying- heavily- hyphenated- activist idiots, which in turn incentivizes the whole unseemly practice of racial- group politics, and other deliberate forms of idiocy. Which when you get down to it, in operational terms, IS racism!
SHOUTING! I WAS No… oh… sorry… carry on…Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 05 17 at 07:59 PM • permalinkThese disgusting revelations are just the culmination of a long series policy decisions that stretch back nearly 40 years.
The Wave Hill case effectively made aboriginal stockmen unemployable. There was then a big gravitation of aboriginals to the fringe camps in outback towns.The Whitlam government then came to power and threw money willy nilly. There was the policy of “self determination” which really meant the control of the Aboriginal Affairs budget by black bureaucrats.
This failed so the catch cry then came to be “land rights”, and the granting of native title would solve all the problems as aboriginal people would gain control of their ancestral lands and all would be sweet.
Huge amounts were spent on outstation communities but there was no economic base to underpin such communities. The people received money - “sit down money” for doing nothing. Alcohol and substance abuse became endemic which has led to horrendous levels of domestic violence, rape and murder.
After each policy failure and as conditions deteriorated, the policy was renamed. The bodies responsible were rebadged and their budgets doubled and the downward spiral continued.
Academics built their careers on studying the culture and invested huge efforts in its maintenance. The invocation of sacred sites protection for developments spawned a new industry. The Hindmarsh Island and Coronation Hill incidents were examples of the bastardry that was used. The purpose was to maintain aboriginal people as living museum pieces dedicated to a stone age culture in the 21st century. These people pursued their objectives from cushy seats in tenured academic institutions while their specimens -read victims - scratched around in the dirt in appalling conditions.
Banning alcohol will not solve the problem as some people are advocating. It will just spawn another class of criminal. Alcohol abuse is a symptom of dispair because of the aimless existence that has been foisted upon them. The whole bureaucratic structure needs to be dismantled and the concept of personal responsibility for one’s actions substituted. The law should be applied to all without fear or favour.
The present policy is based on the premise that aboriginal people are incapable of looking after themselves because they are aboriginal. There are many aboriginal people in this country who hold down jobs, run businesses and live independent lives. By turning the majority of that community into perpetual victims, the current policies become self perpetuating. It’s time to call a halt to this “experiment”.
Contributors will recall how many former missionaries and government welfare employees have been cruelly vilified by the ‘Stolen Generation’ lobby. This is 40 years after they poured their hearts into helping aborigines for little money in conditions of great privation and discomfort. What did they get for their life’s work? A bucket of shit tipped over them.
The Stolen Generations pack, like that arch-idiot Roland Wilson, have sown the wind and reaped the whirlwind - a prime example of the law of unintended consquences that the Left never learns. No welfare worker in his or her right mind would get involved in separating children from violent parents, given that in a couple of decades they too will likely be slandered. Pity ‘bout the children, of course, but there you go.
Posted by walterplinge on 2006 05 17 at 09:22 PM • permalinkre my “too awful for point-scoring” comment, - I was emailing Tim just in case somehow he’d missed Nanette Rogers’s extraordinary interview on Monday night, and that comment was to indicate that I could understand why he might be taking extra care over handlking the issue. (Then again, I was just guessing what was going on in TB’s mind - maybe he’d just forgotten to blog on it!)
The interview is comprehensively devastating to the sentimentalist position - in aboriginal affairs it might almost be the September 11 moment, when either the unpalatable reality is finally faced, or terminal irrationality embraced.
At the same time, it is simply heartbreaking.
It’s been happening for years. And any solution is “damned if you do and damned if you don’t”. It’s definitely time to stop throwing money at the problem ‘cos that’s not working.
Noel Pearson is right, aboriginal Australia can’t rely on the white man to fix their problems: they have to start to do it themselves. This Australian Story about Noel and Gerhardt Pearson and their efforts in Cape York communities was a brilliant start.
Publicly funded information like this NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service/Department of Environment and Conservation (NSW) absolute crap about “invasion” which is widely available on the net doesn’t help.
This is why Archie Roach’s “Took The Children Away” is actually a song about love.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 05 17 at 10:08 PM • permalinkOne of the few areas in which modern aborigines succeed beyond proportion is in sport, particularly Aussie rules. Using funds from national football leagues (take a pay cut, Demitriou, you germ) and aboriginal affairs departments, an Aboriginal sporting institute should be set up in say, Cairns, attracting the best young Aboriginal sports talents and offering high-level training in leadership, business and law as well as sport.
Similar institutions could be established for Aboriginal talents in music and the other arts.
Responsibility for running such places should be in the hands of proven rationalists like Noel Pearson and Warren Mundine.All the usual apologist suspects have been out on the ABC (who broke the story like it was news, and not common knowledge to anyone who doesn’t have their pointy head up their voluminous bottom), and it’s all due to oppression, dislocation, boredom and disadvantage. Just like how all the other untermensch around the world, such as India’s untouchables, rape children, inhale solvents and generally act like complete turds.
As long as these pricks keep making excuses for these arseholes they will continue to act like vermin.
I’d like to dump a whole pile of the perpetually outraged and committed and caring in some of these remote communities for a little while, and listen to them put their repeated assaults, abuse and victimisation down to the deprivation of the perpetrator.
not ‘new’ news 2001
Thesis by US MSci (Psych Major) Student 2002I’m sure there are plenty more, but I have other stuff to do.
If there’s any doubt about my previous post, check out todays op-ed in the Australian.
See also Rosemary Neill’s item in the cut and paste column (no link) regarding how Labor state governments deal with information that is inconvenient to their idiotic, patronising Aboriginal policies.
The killer quote:- ”...don’t talk about that, people will think self-management is not working” (this was the response from then Qld minister responsible to a female Aborigine who works in domestic abuse when the minister was informed in 1994 that there were 12 children in Cairns Base Hospital from one Cape York Aboriginal community who had been sexually and physically assaulted sufficiently to require hospitalisation. One seven year old had 4 different genital and rectal STDs).
Like I said- the ABC’s got its finger on the pulse.
What makes my blood boil is the amount of time, energy and money devoted to shrill feminists who make accusations against others (the ‘rape in war’ harpies protesting on anzac day, those career academics who make a living out of ‘girls education’), largely for sexual/political reasons who have no anger, protest or even words of condemnation to support young girls being raped on a regular basis.
Too many of our left feel that you either ‘love’ Aboriginality or you ‘hate’ it. The penny hasn’t dropped that, to blindly love, hurts the very people they wish to protect in the first place.
This subject is not the kind of stuff suitable for the usual japes, but I commend Tim and other bloggers for giving it a run. This must not be allowed to fade away.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 05 18 at 02:18 AM • permalinkHere’s the response from NT big lasagna and former ABC staffer Claire Martin. She’s directly responsible for the area where most of this rotten behaviour is taking place, and hopes it will just go away; when the Nationals were running the NT and law was actually being enforced, and major penalties dished out the incidence of this was quite small.
Who votes in these peabrains?
Page 1 of 1 pages
Members:
Login | Register
| Member List
Who is this fascist bitch? She must be prosecuted at once for hate speech.