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A BUTTERFLY DID IT

Chaos theory inventor Edward Lorenz has died at 90.

Posted by Tim B. on 04/17/2008 at 03:04 AM
  1. The tree in the forest fell and killed the butterfly.

    Posted by Howzat on 2008 04 17 at 03:30 AM • permalink

  2. Tell that to the IPCC climate modeller f*cktards ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 04 17 at 03:31 AM • permalink

  3. Global warming did it.

    Posted by kae on 2008 04 17 at 04:05 AM • permalink

  4. He won the “alternate” Nobel prize (the Crafoord Prize) in 1983 for proving that weather cannot be predicted accurately more than two weeks out.  Gore won the Nobel prize in 2007 for predicting weather 100+ years out. 
    How times have changed.

    Posted by Diggs on 2008 04 17 at 04:58 AM • permalink

  5. Lorenz discovered that death is the ultimate “strange attractor.”

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 04 17 at 06:42 AM • permalink

  6. Isn’t there something on SBS this week about the coming ice age?

    Posted by monaro on 2008 04 17 at 06:46 AM • permalink

  7. Edward Lorenz created a real flap.

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 04 17 at 07:06 AM • permalink

  8. It’s not over until the fatwa laddies are singed.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2008 04 17 at 07:16 AM • permalink

  9. I’d love to know how much chaos theory is in these IPCC modelling computers.  And butterflies!

    rip edward

    Posted by peter m on 2008 04 17 at 07:44 AM • permalink

  10. Grace Hopper had bug problems too.

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 04 17 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  11. #9
    Suspect none.
    Natural phenomena such as solitons, a departure from simple harmonic motion, have been known since the 19th century.

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 04 17 at 08:50 AM • permalink

  12. From egg’s link: “a soliton is a self-reinforcing solitary wave (a wave packet or pulse) that maintains its shape while it travels at constant speed; solitons are caused by a cancellation of nonlinear and dispersive effects in the medium.”

    Well, that clears that up.

    Posted by paco on 2008 04 17 at 09:50 AM • permalink

  13. I remember reading a book on chaos theory in my freshman classroom; we were basically told to sit down and be quiet, and my dad had loaned me a book on the discovery of said theories. I loved the story of the Lorenz Attractor, and started inventing superheroes with chaos-themed powers.

    RIP, Mr. Lorenz.

    Posted by Tungsten Monk on 2008 04 17 at 09:58 AM • permalink

  14. A well respected meteorologist and mathematician who believed that classical linearised second order differential equations with standard boundary conditions were not adequate to model a complex chaotic global atmosphere.

    But did he invent chaos theory and the mathematics of catastrophic systems? Try Rene Thom and see how much of his work appears in our current “the debate is over” mathematical climatic models

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2008 04 17 at 10:11 AM • permalink

  15. Yes, Paco, but in spite of being difficult to define, solitons are nevertheless quite useful:

    “Many exactly solvable models have soliton solutions, including the Korteweg-de Vries equation, the nonlinear Schrödinger equation, the coupled nonlinear Schrödinger equation, and the sine-Gordon equation. The soliton solutions are typically obtained by means of the inverse scattering transform and owe their stability to the integrability of the field equations."

    Just think about that the next time you have to deal with a coupled nonlinear Schrödinger equation.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2008 04 17 at 10:27 AM • permalink

  16. I wouldn’t be too sure of this.  Word is they ordered the casket from Schrodinger’s Fine Furniture (a wholly owned subsidiary of PACO UnLtd.)

    Or have I just let the cat out of the, erm, bag?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2008 04 17 at 11:06 AM • permalink

  17. #12 paco

    My Quantum Mechanics Professor used to say

    “If any of this makes sense to you, you don’t get it.....”

    Got it!

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2008 04 17 at 11:37 AM • permalink

  18. #15: Just think about that the next time you have to deal with a coupled nonlinear Schrödinger equation. Oh, I will, Ernie, I will.

    #17: My Quantum Mechanics Professor used to say

    Your lucky, Old Tanker; all we had to work on in auto repair class was an old Ford Fairlane.

    Posted by paco on 2008 04 17 at 12:20 PM • permalink

  19. And in English class, we had a chronic shortage of “e’s” and apostrophes, the mere recollection of which made me misspell “you’re”.

    Posted by paco on 2008 04 17 at 12:24 PM • permalink

  20. #18

    Your lucky, Old Tanker; all we had to work on in auto repair class was an old Ford Fairlane.

    aahhhh yes, the good old days of working on the impulse drive of the Enterprise......

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2008 04 17 at 12:38 PM • permalink

  21. As far as I was ever able to tell, chaos theory boils down to ‘the more unlikely something is to happen, the more likely it is to happen.’ It was at that point I put down the textbook and picked up the closest Harry Bosch novel.

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 04 17 at 02:04 PM • permalink

  22. It’s not over until the fatwa laddies are singed.

    true, true.  They blow up so fast, don’t they?

    Posted by quasimodo on 2008 04 17 at 02:37 PM • permalink

  23. All I know about chaos theory I learned from Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 04 17 at 02:40 PM • permalink

  24. Well, that clears that up.

    Just imagine the democratic process as practiced by the Democratic party in Congress, paco.  That might help.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 17 at 03:06 PM • permalink

  25. A butterfly did it

    WRONWRIGHT!!!!

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 04 17 at 03:58 PM • permalink

  26. speaking of wronwright.  he had been cruising the heavens far longer than this old geezer was alive.  the chaos belongs to him and him alone. 
    (and i never understood the need for capital letters unless they were made into pretty and extravagant art)

    Posted by missred on 2008 04 17 at 04:17 PM • permalink

  27. News just in - in time for the gab fest.

    It seems our climate expert economist Garnaut has been talking to the UK’s climate expert economist Stern, and Stern now thinks that his predictions of the future wrath of Global Warmongering have been understated.

    That the world is in for an even more dire period.

    I’m sure the Summit tits will be making the most of this ‘proof’.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 04 17 at 06:48 PM • permalink

  28. Chaos theory, or at least the popular version of it, is a double-edged sword in the warmening debate.  On the one hand, it completely precludes any notion of long-term climate prediction, oops, modelling.  On the other, the ‘butterfly effect’ gives comfort to prophets who want to believe that insignificant variations in trace atmospheric gases can somehow trigger global catastrophes.  Gleick’s popular bestseller Chaos contains a description of the earliest crude computer climate models: they had a funny tendency to revert to the same result (frozen planet) no matter what data you put into them, cf. Mann’s Hockey Stick.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2008 04 17 at 06:58 PM • permalink

  29. You just put this post up for the sake of the title, admit it.

    Posted by TimT on 2008 04 17 at 08:19 PM • permalink

  30. Cuckoo -

    On the other, the ‘butterfly effect’ gives comfort to prophets who want to believe that insignificant variations in trace atmospheric gases can somehow trigger global catastrophes.

    So basically, for the safety of the world, we have to destroy all butterflies?

    Say it… just say the word…

    Posted by TimT on 2008 04 17 at 08:21 PM • permalink

  31. The butterfly effect only gives comfort to people who don’t understand it. It is supposed to be an image of how some systems are inherently unpredictable. For a chaotic system, any amount of inaccuracy in your measurements, no matter how miniscule, will thwart your ability to predict into the far future.

    It’s interesting that he chose weather as the prime example.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2008 04 17 at 09:44 PM • permalink

  32. #28
    Doubtless, they’ll drag the butterfly effect out of ‘mothballs’ when it suits ‘em ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 04 17 at 09:46 PM • permalink

  33. Just think about that the next time you have to deal with a coupled nonlinear Schrödinger equation.

    The cat ate my homework.

    Posted by PW on 2008 04 18 at 12:26 AM • permalink

  34. no matter how miniscule, will thwart your ability to predict into the far future.

    Hammer and nail DD, right on the head.  Every measurement introduces error.  Weather is a great example though, it has to be measured.  All systems requiring measurements have error and it (error) compounds.....

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2008 04 18 at 01:06 AM • permalink

  35. #34

    Idiocy/stupidity compounds.

    With interest.

    Posted by kae on 2008 04 18 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  36. Lorenz gave large credit to some Japanese guy whose name I forget for developing a mathematical theory of chaos.

    In his Danz Lectures, he said he did not know whether climate is chaotic (in the mathematical sense) or not. It isn’t, it’s antichaotic: large changes in inputs result in minor changes in outputs, the exact opposite of what happens with weather. Curious.

    He must have been a wonderful teacher. The Danz Lectures are worth reading.

    Posted by Harry Eagar on 2008 04 18 at 03:17 AM • permalink

  37. It’s not over until the fatwa laddies are singed.

    Sheesh. How long have you been sitting on that one...?

    Posted by hayesy on 2008 04 18 at 07:41 AM • permalink

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